Group of Eight, Cashless Society and the Mark of the Beast

[Peam]

What I’m wondering is this.
If all these fundamental Christians and doninionists believe that the bible is the literal word of god, then if it ever comes round to everyone having to have a stamp or barcode or microchip, wouldn’t some of them suddenly wake up and put two and two together and rail against it, thinking that if they get this chip they’d invoke god’s indignation and wrath?

If so, then maybe this realization by them, but by then too late, could be sort of like lost souls (if they have one) baying in the knight?

 

[Gimpy]

I've read other opinions about sott & cass, saying that it's all gloom n doom, meant to promote fear. I don't get that at all, esp. from this excerpt. The C's aren't saying 'resist at all costs!' They don't state one must be a martyr to make it. So get the stamp. So what? One must survive & provide for one's family, right? My take on it is to get thru it as best as you can, staying vigilant & making the best choices you can in a given moment. Does anyone else interpret it this way? Or am I totally off, and fighting the system because that's the 'right' thing to do is the answer? Somehow I don't think so.

Well, what jumps out at me is this: once the tatoos (Lizzie takover etc) are making the rounds, it'll be near to time for the comet fragments to start hitting soon after, and if one is able to survive that event, then the transition to 4th density happens....at which time knowing the difference between STS and STO will determine which way one goes.

If a person keeps Working and networking, it would be a mighty exciting time. To get to that point is going to take a lot of very hard work, and discerning between what is reality and what is just an emotional hot button "dog and pony show". I imagine Carlos' teacher Don Juan would be jumping up and down clapping his hands in happiness with that many petty tyrants in evidence. (Though it probably will be nothing like we can imagine, the future is always a lot weirder than anybody thought it would be.)


I don't find these postings from Laura on the transcripts to be doom or gloom. In fact, it is a huge relief to understand that much of the Bible is hooey. :D With the C's and the Group's indefatigable work, we find a ray of real light. It will never be easy, but it need not be endless torment either.


Osit

Gimpy

 

[Ady_H101]

I think i understand now! ive been confused for a while now but i think its becoming clear! i was going to write about how confused i am over 'how can we just sit back and watch our fellow man be taken away from us under such totalitarian and completely authoritarian means and watch our livelyhoods be taken away' and 'why do we have to live in such a deprived and desolate future' yet to fight would be to submit to STS inclinations, to fight for what we know to be a lie anway! we have nothing to fight for because everything we know as a society is a lie to begin with! there is no justice to uphold! there is no way of life to preserve! and to think there is is totally the wrong way to go about things! the more i learn the more i know! one thing that does bother me tho is how to keep in contacts with the objectional reality we are helping to create here and i think the answer may be in Lauras new video!!!! i could be wrong but the cassies said they 'will always be with you' and ' all u need to do is ask' if that video is released soon and followed correctly then i think that could be our salvation! again i could be wrong but we are being marked by the beast as we type yet i dont think the beast could ever mark hyperdimentional communications...... i have a feeling they dont have the technology!!

you just have to keep the faith :)

 

[DJM]

I don't find these postings from Laura on the transcripts to be doom or gloom. In fact, it is a huge relief to understand that much of the Bible is hooey. Grin With the C's and the Group's indefatigable work, we find a ray of real light. It will never be easy, but it need not be endless torment either.

Amen Brother! ;)

 

[nicklebleu]

Hi,

Have been thinking a lot about the C's passage at the start ...

IMHO, the C's don't say, resist, especially not violently. They also say, that we won't be able to survive without "the mark". So either "submit" or die of starvation.

But that is probably not the point of submission. Submission is on the mental/ spiritual level, what you believe, whom you follow and worship - and I think there's the crunch: You may get along with "the mark", but don't buy into the propaganda and follow the leaders. Survive as best as you can, and you know that things will change. Increase your knowledge to better understand who is STO and who is STS, because I think that will ultimately be the main point: Whom do you align with? And the STS will pull every trick out of their sleeves to convince you they are the good guys, with "magic and miracles" - evil often comes in the guise of good. Don't forget Arthur C. Clarke: "Any advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

I also think that resistance in the classical sense (a la french resistance movement in WWII) is not going to be possible due to 4D technology, which will provide total control. Remember, they feed on emotions, on you being moved towards STS and giving up your STO orientation - and for you to do that deliberately.

Patience is the key and understanding. Understanding is knowledge, and knowledge protects ...

 

[Ryan]

Patience is the key and understanding. Understanding is knowledge, and knowledge protects ...

Other sources (such as Gurdjieff and Mouravieff) make a distinction between knowledge and understanding. And I fail to see how patience could equal understanding. That whole sequence doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[Joe]

It seems to me that this is what so many "patriot" types are encouraging, open resistance sometimes including violence. So they may be the "angel" cited, helping to bring the violent types out into the open where they can be picked off. We know that once you engage in open battle with the PTB, you're done for. As John Lennon said, "Once they have you violent, they know how to handle you." Being violent or anything close would not be "wise as a serpent." In fact, I'm sure the PTB would like a little violence to keep us all scared and provide a pretext for the presence of open, visible police-state apparatus.

Indeed, perhaps the purpose of people like Alex Jones is not necessarily to radicalise people so that they can be a problem for the powers that be, but rather to make it more easy to assimilate them into the ranks of the new world order fascists. After all, people are essentially asleep (in esoteric terms) and therefore can be easily manipulated. So without the all important knowledge of self as machine aspect, followers of Jones' ethos are sitting ducks.

 

[nicklebleu]

Hi stargazer,

Just some clarification on my previous post: I was not aware that G and M made a distinction between knowledge and understanding; thanks for pointing this out, will have a look into that. As to patience equal to understanding: My train of thought here was not very clear, what I was trying to point out is that understanding doesn't come rapidly, it takes a lot of work - and patience(at least for me!!!), to come to some understanding (or knowledge?). But I must agree with you, that my last sentence doesn't make much sense without the addendum ...

 

[kinyash]

With regard to what an we do as the mayhem unfolds around us, we can also learn a lot by studying Gurdjieff and his actions during WWII. He continued to hold his meetings in Paris with all the chaos going on around them including the presence of German troops, resistance fighters, food rationing etc. Gurdjieff's classes were totally focused on "the work" and no mention of the war was made. To quote one reviewer of the Book "Voices in the dark" by William Patterson:

"This is probably the most unusual book about Gurdjieff, himself the most mysterious and penetrating teacher of esoteric knowledge in the 20th Century. Between vivid descriptions of the German occupation of Paris, in the early 1940's, as all Europe is engulfed in the Horror of the Nazi death machine, we read of Gurdjieff, now in his 70's, calmly working with his students, probing, provoking, giving exercises and encouragement-two coexisting worlds, yet an infinity apart. I found the book totally absorbing and illuminating. -Ralph Metzner,PhD, Psychologist, author. "

That says it all

 

[nicklebleu]

Found the relevant passage in Ouspensky's "In Search od the miraculous" ...

"Knowledge is one thing, understanding is another thing.
"People often confuse these concepts and do not clearly grasp what is the difference
between them.

"Knowledge by itself does not give understanding. Nor is understanding increased
by an increase of knowledge alone. Understanding depends upon the relation of
knowledge to being. Understanding is the resultant of knowledge and being. And
knowledge and being must not diverge too far, otherwise understanding will prove to
be far removed from either. At the same time the relation of knowledge to being does
not change with a mere growth of knowledge. It changes only when being grows
simultaneously with knowledge. In other words, understanding grows only with the
growth of being.

"In ordinary thinking, people do not distinguish understanding from knowledge.
They think that greater understanding depends on greater knowledge. Therefore they
accumulate knowledge, or that which they call knowledge, but they do not know how
to accumulate understanding and do not bother about it.
"And yet a person accustomed to self-observation knows for certain that at different
periods of his life he has understood one and the same idea, one and the same thought,
in totally different ways. It often seems strange to him that he could have understood
so wrongly that which, in his opinion, he now understands rightly. And he realizes, at
the same time, that his knowledge has not changed, and that he knew as much about the given
subject before as he knows now. What, then, has changed? His being has changed.
And once being has changed understanding must change also.

"The difference between knowledge and understanding becomes clear when we
realize that knowledge may be the function of one center. Understanding, however, is
the function of three centers. Thus the thinking apparatus may know something. But
understanding appears only when a man feels and senses what is connected with it.

"We have spoken earlier about mechanicalness. A man cannot say that he
understands the idea of mechanicalness if he only knows about it with his mind. He
must feel it with his whole mass, with his whole being;
then he will understand it.
(Ouspensky, "In Search of ...", p67-8), italics by the author.

So again, thanks for pointing this out to me ... had even marked this passage ... :(

 

[kinyash]

And by the way, that's exactly what this forum is doing-albeit with technology!

 

[rrraven]

Posted by: Peam

What I’m wondering is this.
If all these fundamental Christians and doninionists believe that the bible is the literal word of god, then if it ever comes round to everyone having to have a stamp or barcode or microchip, wouldn’t some of them suddenly wake up and put two and two together and rail against it, thinking that if they get this chip they’d invoke god’s indignation and wrath?

or a biometric passport??? or a simcard in your phone? it has already come around
RRR

 

[Kesdjan]

So according to the C's the basic timeline is:

1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)

2) Global Fascism/martial law

3) Comets

4) Wave

Is that correct?

 

[Nević Nenad]

So according to the C's the basic timeline is:

1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)

2) Global Fascism/martial law

3) Comets

4) Wave

Is that correct?

Looks like logical schedule.
But, “wait and see”? :)

 

[Pierre]

So according to the C's the basic timeline is:

1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)

2) Global Fascism/martial law

3) Comets

4) Wave

Is that correct?

As if it wasn't enough you can even add to the mix a "glacial rebound". Interesting times ahead indeed :P