Group of Eight, Cashless Society and the Mark of the Beast

[Third_Density_Resident]

It often seems strange to him that he could have understood
so wrongly that which, in his opinion, he now understands rightly. And he realizes, at
the same time, that his knowledge has not changed, and that he knew as much about the given
subject before as he knows now. What, then, has changed? His being has changed.
And once being has changed understanding must change also.

This makes a whole lot more sense to me when I replace the word "understanding" with "interpretation". There are many things in the past which I have KNOWN about (i.e had the knowledge of) but upon later reflection I have altered my INTERPRETATION of that SAME KNOWLEDGE. I don't know if this is because I've gained other indirectly related knowledge (thereby placing the original knowledge into a new context), or whether it's because I have gained something of my "being".

So according to the C's the basic timeline is:

1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)

2) Global Fascism/martial law

3) Comets

4) Wave

Is that correct?

I've been constructing a rough "timeline" also, though of course timelines can be a bit unreliable. This is what I've got so far, based on the Cassiopaean transmissions, and also based on how things are unfolding in our world right now. The dates I've added are my own estimation, and could easily be some way off. I know it's probably a futile exercise, but I thought it'd be "fun" to do this. Feel free to make corrections.


1. Present time, 2008.
2. Total economic collapse, c. 2009.
3. Total control by 4D STS via “VISA” (i.e. 666 – “Mark of the Beast”, i.e. RFID chip implanted in every human), c. 2012.
4. Arrival of the Wave (Realm Border Crossing) – bringing comets and UFOs, c. 2014.
5. Intersection of Comets + UFOs + 3D Earth causes many transitions to 5D + departure of some with 4D STS.
6. Wave passes. Earth transitions to 4D*.
7. Return of Christ (and teaching via media technology) + departure of some with 4D STS. Many will remain on Earth with 4D STS, but some will remain and live by Christ’s teachings. Combination of physical and ethereal substance means time and space will be drastically different from how it is when 3D (more flexible).

*I do recall the Cs saying somewhere that the passage of the Wave would cause Earth to become like a gas giant planet in 3D, but that it would remain Earth-like in 4D (as a combination of physical and ethereal substance). But I have also heard that those who do not make the transition to 4D would remain on 3D Earth, possibly as "cave people" under a glowing red sky due to cometary dust. So then the transition to the gas giant phase must not be a sudden thing.

I should also add that I can't see everyone being implanted by a chip or being forced to use an ID card until 2012. And I believe that there is some period between total control and the passage of the Wave, hence my estimation of the cometary bombardment in 2014.

 

[anart]

It often seems strange to him that he could have understood
so wrongly that which, in his opinion, he now understands rightly. And he realizes, at
the same time, that his knowledge has not changed, and that he knew as much about the given
subject before as he knows now. What, then, has changed? His being has changed.
And once being has changed understanding must change also.

This makes a whole lot more sense to me when I replace the word "understanding" with "interpretation". There are many things in the past which I have KNOWN about (i.e had the knowledge of) but upon later reflection I have altered my INTERPRETATION of that SAME KNOWLEDGE. I don't know if this is because I've gained other indirectly related knowledge (thereby placing the original knowledge into a new context), or whether it's because I have gained something of my "being".

Well, perhaps the answer lies in the difference between 'knowledge' and 'understanding'. 'Understanding' is quite different from 'interpretation' and from 'knowledge'. One 'understands' with their being, it is an application of knowledge. One 'interprets' with their mind. Even when one's understanding is objectively incorrect, there is a depth to it that is directly related to 'being', as opposed to an interpretation, which is theoretical.

What Ouspensky was trying to say, to my understanding at least, is that one's 'understanding' is dependent on one's state of being - one's ability to See. It is also related to one's 'receivership capability', as Laura puts it.

Gurdjieff referred to this when he stated that 'the evolution of a man is the evolution of his consciousness' - consciousness is 'being'. Gurdjieff also discussed the idea that a man cannot 'see' above his level of existence - his level of 'being', which explains why a 'student' often cannot understand the actions his/her teacher may take at times - they cannot see the larger picture that is evident from several steps further up the 'ladder'. Once they have taken those steps and their 'being' has changed, their understanding must also.

I hope I didn't confuse the issue further with what I have written - it just seems that it's a rather intricate, yet important, point.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Thanks anart for that clarification. While I'm aware that in general English there is indeed a difference between "understanding" and "interpretation", I just found that particular paragraph easier to make sense of, initially, after I made the temporary word switch. But now you've made thing clearer (and no you haven't confused the issue further :)). Relating one's being to their understanding (and also depth thereof), and one's mind to their interpretation, is helpful.

 

[Nell-Li]

I should also add that I can't see everyone being implanted by a chip or being forced to use an ID card until 2012. And I believe that there is some period between total control and the passage of the Wave, hence my estimation of the cometary bombardment in 2014.

Interesting that you mentioned that. I had a similar thoughts on that, as things are marching ahead, some of the things which were to happen prior to the Wave would require some major pushes forward before things "fall" into place on 2012. So trying to fit all that into the next couple of years does seem hard to comtemplate.

My interpretation of the number of people actually being marked, just might mean the influence of NWO on the world as far as survival goes for each individual. If I can borrow your imagination for a minute and put into place a world after all the turmoil from weaving into place NWO, where all the people that is left are the ones surviving still. Then it seems more probable that they can have total control on everyone that is left who need to survive and need answers from their leaders.

In actuality, I just see a lot of confusion coming in the next couple of years that the public will believe whatever is put in front of them. But that could just be the fog in front of myself, preventing me to see clearly.

Thinking up of these scenarios is "fun", but I have to agree with something the C's said, the future is open. Which is also a good way to dissipate off some of the anticipation.

 

[Adaryn]

I'm still puzzled by the Christ mention :

Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.

We know the salvation /messiah scenario is religious propaganda. So what do the C's mean by "Christ" ? Is it the same as Jesus? What does it refer to? A group of people with knowledge who would teach via the media, a la SOTT ;) ? What do they mean by "return"?
Is this passage still accurate?

Many questions here

 

[ana]

They said to: he will come back as part of the whole...

A group of people with knowledge who would teach via the media, a la SOTT ;) ? What do they mean by "return"?
Is this passage still accurate?

Many questions here

instinct tells me something like that

 

[NORDIC HEALER]

I personally (and I could be wrong) always thought that there was a distinction between Jesus and the Christ. [?]

Jesus I thought was the man or vehicle part of this Great 6th Density Being, and Christ was the Consciousness or Divine part. Hence we get the term "Christ Consciousness" or the "Office Of The Christ." The two became combined of course and married into Jesus Christ.

So my feeling is that when Christ returns it means that the Christ would return by a kind of quickening (of the dormant SOUL Seeds), a Growth, an Unfoldment of the recondite SOUL potentialities within each individual who is his own, who Hear his Voice, who Collectively are a part of his flock. OSIT

I also want to make clear that I don't necessarily put a lot of stock in the bible, but here and there it has its moments of Truth. I think the C's said it was about 70% lies and disinfo and about 30% Truth. That being said Apostle Paul says something to the effect that the sum total of all those who hear his voice and follow his way are...the Christ.

I for one then was not looking for the return of a person(al), or Singular Entity, clothed in the Form gendered image of a Man, who would resume teaching where he had left off 2,000 years go... but rather the COLLECTIVE RETURN OF THE CHRIST "CONSCIOUSNESS" or "LIGHT" PRINCIPLE [STO] overcoming the Dark Principle [STS] WITHIN all those who are by DNA HIS OWN. This return occurring then within the GROUP of those inherently STO (by DNA) that would Teach each other (as parts to its whole), each contributing to the whole its Unique portion of Light or Truth. The Sum is greater than its parts. CHRIST then returning as regenerated man, the seed DNA blossoming from the long labors of The Work. Alchemically Lead becoming Gold. OSIT.

This Period of Christ returning also perhaps marking a Cyclic change of things where the LIGHT Principle now prevails over the Dark Principle; whereas before the Dark Principle prevailed for the past 309 thousand years. For the sake of Cosmic balance a shift occurs.

I could be, "way off base" but those are my perceptions right now. And YES I did wonder what the C's meant about the Christ returning.

On the other hand, perhaps the Christ does return as an actual visible, singular, gendered Entity that makes for itself a vehicle or body suited to its Infinite Conscience ?? I really don't know.

Apparently this Being is a 6th Density Being with a very special mission who chose to help that part of humanity having SOUL DNA. According to the C's He has the ability to fragment his Soul into infinite parts to answer the billions of prayers being sent to him. Those that are His own.

Sometimes I wonder if WE ARE those FRAGMENTS being gathered back together? Slowly being reassembled after the Fall?

The fairytale riddle of Humpty Dumpty anyone?

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Actually, I think you'll find that the Cs mentioned that Jesus Christ, the man, was actually an incarnate FIFTH Density being. Apparently when he left earth, he somehow spread his "essence" out in some sort of matrix to be used for some STO purpose. I forget the details, so I'd appreciate it if someone could locate this transmission.

In any case, I'd say there is definitely a difference between Jesus and Christ. Jesus was a man; and at the risk of sounding all "new-agey", Christ is a "spiritual energy". Perhaps Christ is what Jesus became -- something hinted at by the Cs who said Jesus turned himself into a "soul matrix". So the "return of Christ" could very well be something altogether different from what we think.

When I first heard that Christ was to return AFTER the 4D transition, and that the STS Lizard beings would also be present on 4D Earth to possibly harass the STO individuals, I thought, "How dreadful -- so not only are we controlled NOW by 4D STS, but those who make the transition will be threatened once again in 4D." But it then occurred to me that it may not be as bad as it sounds because both 4D STS and 4D STO are on EQUAL FOOTING. That is to say, it will be much more "fair" than things are now because everyone will exist in the same density.

The whole use of "media technology" thing gets me though -- I'm wondering whether 4D radios and televisions are possible? I can't see why not, though I thought mental telepathy played a bigger role in 4D.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

I should also add that I can't see everyone being implanted by a chip or being forced to use an ID card until 2012. And I believe that there is some period between total control and the passage of the Wave, hence my estimation of the cometary bombardment in 2014.

Interesting that you mentioned that. I had a similar thoughts on that, as things are marching ahead, some of the things which were to happen prior to the Wave would require some major pushes forward before things "fall" into place on 2012. So trying to fit all that into the next couple of years does seem hard to comtemplate.

After thinking some more about this, it occurred to me that all it would take is a total economic collapse and/or a major "terrorist" event to quickly usher in chip implant policies. With total economic collapse and mayhem, the only people who will really have control of this planet will be those psychopathic individuals who have always run the show (and will probably be the ones who co-ordinated the collapse in the first place). They will insist that a cashless society is our only hope for salvation, and most people, who will be scared and in a panic, will go along with what they're told (this is where the "Shock Doctrine" comes into play). So if there's a collapse early next year, for example, it may only take a year to 18 months for totalitarian control of Earth. Perhaps 2010 is not so unrealistic an estimation of when we'll all be forced to have implants? All one has to do is see how quickly things changed after 9/11. I dare say things will move even more quickly now, since the powers that be have learnt a whole lot more since 9/11.

 

[Adaryn]

On the other hand, perhaps the Christ does return as an actual visible, singular, gendered Entity that makes for itself a vehicle or body suited to its Infinite Conscience ?? I really don't know.

Apparently this Being is a 6th Density Being with a very special mission who chose to help that part of humanity having SOUL DNA. According to the C's He has the ability to fragment his Soul into infinite parts to answer the billions of prayers being sent to him. Those that are His own.

The being you mention is Jesus, not Christ - if those are different.

Actually, I think you'll find that the Cs mentioned that Jesus Christ, the man, was actually an incarnate FIFTH Density being. Apparently when he left earth, he somehow spread his "essence" out in some sort of matrix to be used for some STO purpose. I forget the details, so I'd appreciate it if someone could locate this transmission.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/grail_7.htm

Q: (L) Okay, what is the truth on that matter?
A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem. When he awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave. 27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he was taken up in a beam of light.
Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.
Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he come back to life... so to speak...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Okay, what happened?
A: Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.
Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of 'extended sleep?'
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How long was he asleep, or in this state of semi-death?
A: 96 hours.
Q: (L) And then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light. [As is often reported in "alien abductions."]
Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit into the earth plane, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.
Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.
Q: (L) You say that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.
Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.
Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.
Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.
Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.
Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.
Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus:When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived in your reality. A "Time warp cocoon, if you will. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper-
consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that Jesus is in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance? A sort of "template generator?"
A: Yes. Precisely.
Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.
Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No. Once one has truly made the connection, that's all that's needed.
Q: (L) This is an interesting concept. Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes. 12 at the present "time."
Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Buddha. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Others; Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.

OK, since the consortium - a group of 3rd and 4rth D STS - is called the Antichrist by the C's then we might assume the same is true for the Christ - that it'd be a group of STO or STO oriented beings.

 

[Third_Density_Resident]

Thanks for that Nordic Healer. It's a good hypothesis that "Christ" is actually a consortium of STO beings. Then again, if that's so, why would there be any need for media technology if there will be a consortium of beings coming to 4D Earth?

 

[Windmill knight]

What I’m wondering is this.
If all these fundamental Christians and dominionists believe that the bible is the literal word of god, then if it ever comes round to everyone having to have a stamp or barcode or microchip, wouldn’t some of them suddenly wake up and put two and two together and rail against it, thinking that if they get this chip they’d invoke god’s indignation and wrath?

Like the Cs say:

A: Confusion by contradiction.

Also, I found this bit revealing:

A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands
attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about
a new world order?
Q: (L) The United States?
A: Close. Elements of same.

Because of the following:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(political)

The term "new world order" has been used to refer to a new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. The first usages of the term surrounded Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points and call for a League of Nations following the devastation of World War I. The phrase was used sparingly at the end of the Second World War when describing the plans for the United Nations and Bretton Woods system, in part because of the negative association to the failed League of Nations the phrase would bring. In retrospect however, many commentators have applied the term retroactively to the order put in place by the WWII victors as a "new world order."

The most widely discussed application of the phrase of recent times came at the end of the Cold War. Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev and George H.W. Bush used the term to try to define the nature of the post Cold War era, and the spirit of great power cooperation that they hoped might materialize. Gorbachev's initial formulation was wide ranging and idealistic, but his ability to press for it was severely limited by the internal crisis of the Soviet system. Bush's vision was, in comparison, much more circumscribed and pragmatic, perhaps even instrumental at times, and closely linked to the Gulf War. Perhaps not surprisingly, the perception of what the new world order entailed in the press and in the public imagination far outstripped what either Gorbachev or Bush had outlined, and was characterized by nearly comprehensive optimism.

[...] In A World Transformed, Scowcroft notes that Bush even offered to have Soviet troops amongst the coalition forces liberating Kuwait. Bush places the fate of the new world order on the ability of the U.S. and the Soviet Union to respond to Hussein’s aggression.[16] The idea that the Gulf War would usher in the new world order began to take shape. Bush notes that the "premise [was] that the United States henceforth would be obligated to lead the world community to an unprecedented degree, as demonstrated by the Iraqi crisis, and that we should attempt to pursue our national interests, wherever possible, within a framework of concert with our friends and the international community."[17]

A pivotal point came with Bush’s 11 September 1990 "Toward a New World Order" speech (full text) to a joint session of Congress. This time it was Bush, not Gorbachev, whose idealism was compared to Woodrow Wilson, and to FDR at the creation of the UN.

The full text can be read in here:

_http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Toward_a_New_World_Order

 

[ana]

Thanks for that Nordic Healer. It's a good hypothesis that "Christ" is actually a consortium of STO beings. Then again, if that's so, why would there be any need for media technology if there will be a consortium of beings coming to 4D Earth?

Well, aren't we receiving the Cass help(knowledgment) through the media technology , Thanks to Laura... :)


I found something that should be related to your question, but I still don't have it clear... :/

Session: 950924

Q: (L) They said it was the Orions. Are the Orions these
secondary creators? (RC) Well, I read that it was the
Pleiadians. And the Hebrews were originally the Hoovids who
came from Sirius...
A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it
will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and
assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have
the adequate knowledge!!!

 

[John G]

"Christed" is apparently something that happened to Jesus and can happen to others. From thorbiorn's compilation of Cs transcripts related to Jesus:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7614.0

Quote from: 940930
Q: (L) Was Jesus an individual who had psychic or unusual powers from birth?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Did he have an awareness from the earliest times of his life that he was in some way special or chosen?
A: yes.
Quote from: 941005
Q: (L) Was Jesus Christed in the sense of having some special mantle of power falling over him at the time of his baptism?
A: Nearly correct.
[…]
Quote from: 980606
Q: […] At what age did he receive this enlightenment?
A: Was progressive.
Quote from: 940722
Q: (L) Was Jesus special, Christed as it is called, in any way?
A: Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement; Zindar council.
Q: (L) What is the Zindar Council?
A: Two cycle exchangers mission.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: References vast.
Quote from: 941022
Q: (L) During a previous reading we asked several questions about Jesus of Nazareth known as the Christ. The question was asked: "Was Jesus special, that is, Christed, in some way?" The answer came back was: "Quick exalted; wars; civil entrancement. Zindar council." I would like to know the meaning of these references.
A: Quick exalted refers to a sudden boost of awareness level as related to your previous questions about knowledge. Sometimes that acquisition can occur in a surge and sometimes this is referred to as illumination. Jesus acquired his knowledge by having complete faith in his ability to acquire the knowledge from a higher source. This faith caused an equal balancing interaction with higher sources, which allowed him to gain supreme knowledge simply by having that faith. Remember that the resources for the acquisition of knowledge in the space/time ere of Christ were much more limited than they are now. There were few options open for acquiring true knowledge except total and complete faith. And this one was instilled with the awareness that total and complete faith would cause dramatic and spectacular acquisition of knowledge; also would cause dramatic and spectacular progression of the soul being. Therefore, the faith was felt, the knowledge was received.
Q: (L) What was the source of the knowledge?
A: The source was the sixth level of density which is where we reside and we also were involved in that as well.
Q: (L) What does the term "Civil entrancement" mean?
A: Civil entrancement is a complete balancing of one's useful energies to a level where there is no experiencing of over balancing on the positive or negative side which is preferable for meditation in a mass form.
Q: (L) What is the Zendar Council?
A: Zendar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.
Q: (L) I would like you to expound a bit on the life of Christ in terms of chronology of events. Could you tell us about his understanding about himself, his interaction with higher sources, his state of being Christed, and what was the true work he came her to do and how did he accomplish it?
A: His awareness of who and what he was gradually came as he grew. He was taught by us through his faith as described previously. And you should have faith as well because you would find things would come to you as "knowings" more often than even now. Jesus awareness of his mission and his actions pertaining to it were part of the natural progression of his growth and development. The information about his "miracles" has been largely corrupted by writings which have been passed down after the actual event period. Most of these writings are by entities who wish to confuse and corrupt all humanity for previously stated purposes. The idea was that if one perceived Jesus as performing physical miracles, then your entire understanding of what the life experience here on earth and on this plane is, and the meaning for it all, is also corrupted and the knowledge is blocked which is the goal of those who have done this. Jesus' purpose and plan was to teach knowledge to all who sought but did not have the strength to express as great a level of faith as he had to acquire the knowledge as he did from higher sources. If they were open and willing to learn they could be taught by hearing. He had only very limited success in imparting faith to others because faith comes solely from within and that is one of the most difficult things for beings on your plane to acquire.
Quote from: 941028
Q: (L) Rudolf Steiner called Christ "The most sublime human principle ever to unfold on earth," is this an accurate statement?
A: One interpretation.
Q: (L) He also said: "The Christ, who in the course of this evolution lived 3 years in the body of Jesus of Nazareth..." Is this a correct statement? Did the Christ statement enter Jesus at age 30?
A: Formed then.
Q: (L) How did this sublime being, the Christ, dwell in a human body?
A: Natural process caused by supremely pure faith and thought.
Quote from: 941028
Q: (L) Did the Christ spirit descend into the body of Jesus in his 30th year?
A: No.
Q: (L) What happened?
A: Formed within him. And it could do thusly in anyone who reaches such levels of service to others plus faith and supreme levels of pure thought.
Quote from: 941028
Q: (L) […] previously you said that Jesus had sexual relations with women after he was Christed, is that correct?
A: No. Before.
Q: (L) So, after he was Christed he had no sexual relations?
A: Correct.

The transcript mentioning Jesus as a 5th density soul.

Quote from: 941005
Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) He was a fifth density soul?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on planet earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth density?
A: 1009.
Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would be familiar if you were to name them?
A: Yes. Socrates.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to John the Baptist?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to Mary, his mother?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) There was no other spiritual relationship in the sense of being combined souls?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were either Mary or John the Baptist fifth density souls?
A: Both.

 

[NORDIC HEALER]

I would like to thank Bluelamp, and Prayers for rain, for posting the C's transcripts I have not seen before as a whole (I've just seen some fragments of this material here and there) which contained the amazing critical info that I needed from the C's to fill in a lot of missing pieces in regards to Jesus and Christ.

My theory that I put forth was from the summation of all that I have read and studied over the years previous to my time spent on this site, plus the added teachings of the C's, Laura and team that I have worked with up to the present.

Is there a way to get a complete transcript of ALL the transmissions from the C's thus far? Please let me know.

I was indeed trying to say that the STO group of people so to speak, is probably CHRIST'S group and hence the STS group would maybe then be the Anti-Christ group, forming again, or continuing, the great cosmic duality so to speak until everything finally resolves into Oneness in the 7th Density. OSIT.

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Thanks for that Nordic Healer. It's a good hypothesis that "Christ" is actually a consortium of STO beings. Then again, if that's so, why would there be any need for media technology if there will be a consortium of beings coming to 4D Earth?

Perhaps technology is just a "Vehicle" used to transmit as efficiently as possible the True and Sacred Soul information amongst those who are interconnected already by SOUL DNA? Perhaps in the days before this present technology it was a much slower process to spread the Truth out. Apparently even the 4th Density STS Beings use technology to expedite their Control work on us, so I don't see why 4th Density STO Beings can't also use technology expedite their SERVICE work to Others. OSIT