Jonatain said:Another pic which i guess is related to the "confusion by corruption":
"Knowing the difference" won't determine which way you go. This can't be right, because there are those firmly committed to STS who know the difference. They've made a choice. There are those who choose to work toward STO but are still STS. So it seems to me this is about choice beyond just "knowing the difference."Well, what jumps out at me is this: once the tatoos (Lizzie takover etc) are making the rounds, it'll be near to time for the comet fragments to start hitting soon after, and if one is able to survive that event, then the transition to 4th density happens....at which time knowing the difference between STS and STO will determine which way one goes.
I don't think it's clear about the order of 2 and 3. For instance, comet havoc could speed the changes, or war might be started to speed the changes and disguise cometary impacts. Wait and see.1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)
2) Global Fascism/martial law
3) Comets
4) Wave
How such technology is to be resisted in 4D is unknown.We told you that "HAARP" was being designated for capturing and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of complete "order on the surface of the planet" in either 3rd or 4th density.
PopHistorian said:"Knowing the difference" won't determine which way you go. This can't be right, because there are those firmly committed to STS who know the difference. They've made a choice. There are those who choose to work toward STO but are still STS. So it seems to me this is about choice beyond just "knowing the difference."
PepperFritz said:Yes, and I don't think it's a choice made "in the moment" either; one needs to have been substantially "choosing" in that direction over time -- i.e. raising one's FRV -- before the "event" itself. Correct me if I have it wrong, but I think of the transition to 4th-density STO as being a process -- not just a one-time decision -- a process of raising one's FRV until it reaches the "critical mass" required....
Kesdjan said:1) Economic Collapse (a report on SOTT.net has this as early as summer 2009)
2) Global Fascism/martial law
3) Comets
4) Wave
Belibaste said:If I correctly remember one transcript (that I don't manage to find back) mentioned that in order to graduate to 4D STO, a STO candidate should have performed more that 50% STO deeds. On the other side, to reach 4D STS, one individual should perform 95% STS deeds.
QUESTION: The book Oahspe says that if an entity is over 51% service to others and less than 50% service to self, then the entity is harvestable for the positive 4th dimensional level.
RA: This is correct. The negative path is quite difficult for attaining harvestability and requires great dedication. To be harvestable in the negative orientation requires at least 95% service to self.
PepperFritz said:Belibaste said:If I correctly remember one transcript (that I don't manage to find back) mentioned that in order to graduate to 4D STO, a STO candidate should have performed more that 50% STO deeds. On the other side, to reach 4D STS, one individual should perform 95% STS deeds.
I also don't think it's accurate to speak in terms of "STO deeds" and "STS deeds", as "deeds" are not in themselves STO or STS in nature; it is only the INTENT and ORIENTATION of the person performing the deed that can be so defined. Two people can perform the same act with entirely different intents.
PepperFritz said:I don't believe that appears in the Cassiopaea transcripts. I think you are recalling the following exchange from the Ra material:
QUESTION: The book Oahspe says that if an entity is over 51% service to others and less than 50% service to self, then the entity is harvestable for the positive 4th dimensional level.
RA: This is correct. The negative path is quite difficult for attaining harvestability and requires great dedication. To be harvestable in the negative orientation requires at least 95% service to self.
I also don't think it's accurate to speak in terms of "STO deeds" and "STS deeds", as "deeds" are not in themselves STO or STS in nature; it is only the INTENT and ORIENTATION of the person performing the deed that can be so defined. Two people can perform the same act with entirely different intents.
Belibaste said:I guess two persons can have the same intent and make two different decisions also. Does it mean that both are important, the intent and the deed, the mean and the end ? Would the FRV encompass the whole process (intent and fruit, mean and end) ?
PepperFritz said:I would venture to say that the two components -- STO intent and the "best" means/end -- would tend to go hand-in-hand on an equal ratio basis. The higher someone's FRV and the purer his intent in STO terms, the more he will by his very nature seek out the kind of Knowledge and Discernment required to carry out that intent (the "means"), and bring about the best possible "end". which was subsequently mis-used....
Kinyah said:With regard to what an we do as the mayhem unfolds around us, we can also learn a lot by studying Gurdjieff and his actions during WWII. He continued to hold his meetings in Paris with all the chaos going on around them including the presence of German troops, resistance fighters, food rationing etc. Gurdjieff's classes were totally focused on "the work" and no mention of the war was made.
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