daveOS
Jedi
[quote author=Laura 10/16/08]Q: (L) That's small comfort. There's other ways to die.
A: We are not speaking of death, Laura. If you listen to those
who are firmly rooted in 3rd level this is when you run the
risk of slipping in your knowledge learned no matter how good
the intentions...
[/quote]
Plus I always have to come back to C.G. Jung's "Answer to Job" whenever trying to make sense of Revelations and keep in mind the circumstances Jung calls out that likely irrupted into John's revelation and that as such it has, "...the form of a more or less subjective myth." Jung points out John's apocalyptic Christ is, [quote author=C.G. Jung, "Answer to Job" pp 76] "...a terrifying picture that blatantly cantradicts all ideas of Christian humility, tolerance, love of your neighbour and your enemies, and makes nonsense of a loving father in heaven and rescuer of mankind. A veritable orgy of hatred, wrath, vindictiveness, and blind destructive fury that revels in fantastic images of terror breaks out and with blood and fire overwhelms a world which Christ had just endeavoured to restore to the original state of innocence and loving communion with God.[/quote]
But even though the Christ of Revelation may be nothing more than a shadow aspect of the human John, Jung does call out, [quote author=C.G. Jung, "Answer to Job" pp 81] "But John's problem was not a personal one. It was not a question of his personal unconscious or of an outburst of ill humour, but of visions which came up from a far greater and more comprehensive depth, namely from the collective unconscious. His problem expresses itself far too much in collective and archetypal forms for us to reduce it to a merely personal situation."[/quote] So obviously there's merit to the insights the C's call out in Laura's original post about how the VISA model of Beast adoration stands (or doesn't stand) to play out, but the collective fear and trembling resulting from literal interpretation of apocalyptic symbols seems more the psychological trauma the orchestrators of 9/11 or the assembers of the Bible are trying to conjur than the message the Christ figure came to bring.
A: We are not speaking of death, Laura. If you listen to those
who are firmly rooted in 3rd level this is when you run the
risk of slipping in your knowledge learned no matter how good
the intentions...
[/quote]
Plus I always have to come back to C.G. Jung's "Answer to Job" whenever trying to make sense of Revelations and keep in mind the circumstances Jung calls out that likely irrupted into John's revelation and that as such it has, "...the form of a more or less subjective myth." Jung points out John's apocalyptic Christ is, [quote author=C.G. Jung, "Answer to Job" pp 76] "...a terrifying picture that blatantly cantradicts all ideas of Christian humility, tolerance, love of your neighbour and your enemies, and makes nonsense of a loving father in heaven and rescuer of mankind. A veritable orgy of hatred, wrath, vindictiveness, and blind destructive fury that revels in fantastic images of terror breaks out and with blood and fire overwhelms a world which Christ had just endeavoured to restore to the original state of innocence and loving communion with God.[/quote]
But even though the Christ of Revelation may be nothing more than a shadow aspect of the human John, Jung does call out, [quote author=C.G. Jung, "Answer to Job" pp 81] "But John's problem was not a personal one. It was not a question of his personal unconscious or of an outburst of ill humour, but of visions which came up from a far greater and more comprehensive depth, namely from the collective unconscious. His problem expresses itself far too much in collective and archetypal forms for us to reduce it to a merely personal situation."[/quote] So obviously there's merit to the insights the C's call out in Laura's original post about how the VISA model of Beast adoration stands (or doesn't stand) to play out, but the collective fear and trembling resulting from literal interpretation of apocalyptic symbols seems more the psychological trauma the orchestrators of 9/11 or the assembers of the Bible are trying to conjur than the message the Christ figure came to bring.