Hagar is VERY sick

Hi Guardian. I am so sorry to hear about Hagar. Damn, it's always something! I, too, have my fingers crossed for him and his recovery.

I know how hard it is to not hit a running bunny. They are so quick and when they run right under your tire, there is nothing that you can do. This is one of the reasons that I really don't like automobiles. They are always killing something, somewhere. And, yet, it is very inconvenient to not have one. :/

I am sorry you are having to go through these things. :flowers:
 
Hi Guardian,

So sorry to hear about Hagar and the accident with the rabbit. :cry: Hope that tube works. Keeping my fingers crossed and do take care of yourself.
 
anart said:
I was just posting a question if there was any word. Well, he made it this far. :) Get him on probiotics after the course of antibiotics is finished!

I intend to...he can share mine :-)

One thing I forgot is that I agreed to be part of a long term study to do follow up on him for pretty much the rest of his life, email them health status reports, etc. In exchange they are charging me way less than the thousands this surgery would ordinarily cost. They've only been doing this procedure for a couple years, but all the full sized goats that have had it are still alive but one (he ruptured before the surgery and got a bad infection) ...and the most important part is that if he does survive and everything heals right, he will have an excellent quality of life. The only difference is that he'll pee like a girl so we have to tell the other animals not to laugh at him.

Even if they had saved his urethra and gotten the stones out, it could have happened again real soon, he would have to be on special meds the rest of his life, etc. Now his pee has a larger, straight shot out with no curves (the male's urethra is "S" shaped) so the chance of him getting more stones is greatly reduced.

I haven't gotten to sleep, and after what happened to the bunny, I'm paranoid ...so we decided to wait to go see them tomorrow.
 
Hi Guardian,
Very sorry to hear about Hagar. I hope everything works out well for him.
Take care of yourself. :flowers:
 
SAO said:
Just some thoughts - none of it could be true, but maybe it'll help you find meaning.

Thanks SAO... I've been running all that stuff through my head and more...it really seems like one thing after another after another...and none of it is really happening to me directly, it's animals and other living things around me being hurt.

The only thing I can think of so far is that rabbits represent fertility, and I'm fast approaching menopause...but it's not like I needed a rabbit to tell me that?
 
Guardian said:
SAO said:
Just some thoughts - none of it could be true, but maybe it'll help you find meaning.

Thanks SAO... I've been running all that stuff through my head and more...it really seems like one thing after another after another...and none of it is really happening to me directly, it's animals and other living things around me being hurt.

The only thing I can think of so far is that rabbits represent fertility, and I'm fast approaching menopause...but it's not like I needed a rabbit to tell me that?


From what I've seen of rabbits and other small animals and cars....sometimes it just happens. What's going on right now is a new birth, and all kinds of people, wildlife, and habitat are going through a Rebirth Process....and those are messy and painful. Its also an opportunity to check out and come back in again. And as awful as it all can be, it'll swing around again and get better.

The tough part, at least for now, is keeping your keel even and not giving in to despair. Do what you can do, and let go of the rest.

The Ocean is always with you, its only as far away as the rain, and when you cry.

Maybe that's it? Maybe you need to set aside some time to have a good hard, prune-faced cry, the kind that wrings you out and finally lets you get some decent sleep?

Those are hard to do, but once they move through you, its better.


Gimpy
preparing for a memorial service this weekend
and in a reflective mood
 
Gimpy said:
From what I've seen of rabbits and other small animals and cars....sometimes it just happens.

Yeah, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...and the way stuff keeps piling on, I'm probably looking for "messages" in ordinary things.

The tough part, at least for now, is keeping your keel even and not giving in to despair.

True that! Everything is starting to look pretty hopeless..it seems like at least some humans will find a way to survive, while all the innocent animals and other living things are going to die due to us.

The Ocean is always with you,

Maybe in my memories, but she's a living being too, and she's being killed too.

Maybe that's it? Maybe you need to set aside some time to have a good hard, prune-faced cry, the kind that wrings you out and finally lets you get some decent sleep?

It seems like all I'm doing lately is crying...I bawled in the barn, in the car all the way back, in the freak'in bathroom.

preparing for a memorial service this weekend
and in a reflective mood

Oh no, I'm so sorry Gimpy!! Here I am going on about a goat when I know there are people suffering and dying...I'm really sorry you've lost someone
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preparing for a memorial service this weekend
and in a reflective mood

Oh no, I'm so sorry Gimpy!! Here I am going on about a goat when I know there are people suffering and dying...I'm really sorry you've lost someone


No worries there. She an I weren't what you'd call close, but we were ok. She went quick, which was a good thing.


I'm odd when it comes to death Guardian. Its just a revolving door to me. As far as I can tell she's rested up and headed back again. ;)
 
Gimpy said:
I'm odd when it comes to death Guardian. Its just a revolving door to me. As far as I can tell she's rested up and headed back again. ;)

Yeah, I know I'm really selfish and narcissistic when it comes to death. I know good and well that the dead are better off in most cases, I'm just upset because they're gone out of my life and I miss them.

I really don't care if I die, I just don't want the people and critters I love to die..which I know is extremely self centered. :-[
 
Hi Guardian --

I'm also sorry to hear about Hagar, but the long-term study you mentioned sounds hopeful, and it's great that it got your costs down.

Hitting the rabbit must have been very jarring, and I'm glad that you didn't have to follow through and actually kill it. I feel guilty when I accidentally step on a junebug, so I know hitting a rabbit would really bother me. I hope you are feeling calmer -- its soul has returned to 5D, and who knows when it may be back in the form of a new baby bunny.
 
Hi Guardian

Sorry to hear you are going through the mill at the moment. My heart goes out to you (and Hagar).

Guardian said:
True that! Everything is starting to look pretty hopeless..it seems like at least some humans will find a way to survive, while all the innocent animals and other living things are going to die due to us.

fwiw I think this may not be the case.....if the oil spills are part of the earth 'opening up', then they would be happening if we had wells there or not (I get the feeling this may become more evident as the year progresses).
The pressure seems to be changing down there, and I think these leaks (although blamed on 'man') are just the pressure finding the quickest way out. Through equipment that was never designed to cope with 1000% rise in pressure.
But I could be wrong.......

Either way try and go easy on yourself...even if it is all the fault of greedy (psychopathic) humans, just because your human doesn't make you responsible for the death you see around you (your not a psychopath after all).
Nor should any of this take away from the pain you feel.

Guardian said:
It seems like all I'm doing lately is crying...I bawled in the barn, in the car all the way back, in the freak'in bathroom.

Just like mother earth, you have to let the pressure these changes are causing out. Don't beat yourself up for crying all the time.
By being a witness to this change, and caring as you do....I think you are doing more good than you know right now.
Sorry if this is all a bit to intangible....it is my impression of part of what is going on that you may not be able to see right now.

Tell Hagar about all of us wishing him well when you see him :flowers:
 
Sorry to hear all that horrid stuff you are going through Guardian. I hope it will all be solved somehow soon.

Tell Hagar about all of us wishing him well when you see him

count me in !
best wishes goes from me too.
 
RedFox said:
Either way try and go easy on yourself...even if it is all the fault of greedy (psychopathic) humans, just because your human doesn't make you responsible for the death you see around you (your not a psychopath after all).

I feel responsible... I own a fast car, monster truck, tractor, etc. I burn the electricity they produce for my convenience and comfort. I'm taking GREAT benefit from what the psycho corps are doing...so I'm responsible too.

Tell Hagar about all of us wishing him well when you see him :flowers:

I will :)
We're all going over to visit today so they'll know we haven't abandoned them. We thought of taking flowers, but decided their dried fruit treats would be easier to digest :-)
 
Hang in there Guardian............... i have seen a number animals being hit by out of town people in the area, that have kept going not even concerned about hitting them. I move to pull over and move them from the road as to avoid futher desecration to the body's and ask myself why they could think like this. I have also noticed in the states, is the same situation numerous times of the 2d moving to traffic, as if unaware to the sounds and visual perception of there enviorment and nor understanding the consequence's. And lastly and more important the illness of Hagar and pray for the best in his situation.
 
Hagar is doing VERY well ...and Hilda is being a spoiled little brat :)

If he keeps progressing as quickly as he is, they may take the temporary tube out in a couple of days and see if his new pee path is functioning. His sphincter was not involved at all, so he will probably still be house broken once he's well.

I had an interesting talk with one of the techs and the upshot was that we may have the first transgendered goat in North Carolina :lol:

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