Confirmed. Macy Pan reduced from $7,000 to $1,500 to negate a huge import tax on my behalf (US Customer). Considering I didn't even mention it, I praise their customer service.
Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT): General information and discussion of Home Units
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Confirmed. Macy Pan reduced from $7,000 to $1,500 to negate a huge import tax on my behalf (US Customer). Considering I didn't even mention it, I praise their customer service.
Thor’s Pantheon
The Force is Strong With This One
I can vouch for this approach being taken by MP.
They will also describe the contents of the shipment on the paperwork quite discreetly.
My unit arrives tomorrow.......
It's been mentioned before that at pressures below 1.5 ata bacteria and fungal growth are enhanced. Above (and at?) 1.5 ata, the environment becomes bacteriostatic, as in it inhibits these growths (see here).
When I had covid, I used 3% food-grade hydrogen peroxide and nebulized it into my lungs and it greatly improved my recovery. Since then, I've also used a 50/50 solution of that and water to season my cigar humidor, and have been spraying the wood like crazy and saw zero mold! Prior to this discovery, I tried only with water and saw black spots popping up in the wood, which I had to remove with rubbing alchohol.
Some places that offer hyperbaric chambers allow you to bring water inside their units, so I think that it would be safe to rub the inner layer of the chamber with the 3% food-grade hydrogen peroxide to achieve a level of bacteriostatic-ness just before use. Not soaking, but perhaps a very low level of wetness. Then after use, you can clean it however you like.
When I had covid, I used 3% food-grade hydrogen peroxide and nebulized it into my lungs and it greatly improved my recovery. Since then, I've also used a 50/50 solution of that and water to season my cigar humidor, and have been spraying the wood like crazy and saw zero mold! Prior to this discovery, I tried only with water and saw black spots popping up in the wood, which I had to remove with rubbing alchohol.
Some places that offer hyperbaric chambers allow you to bring water inside their units, so I think that it would be safe to rub the inner layer of the chamber with the 3% food-grade hydrogen peroxide to achieve a level of bacteriostatic-ness just before use. Not soaking, but perhaps a very low level of wetness. Then after use, you can clean it however you like.
Regarding zipping up when inside the chamber, the trick I was told is to zip the outside up a little, then the inside, outside, inside and keep alternating. Also ensure the zips are flat and not kinked.
Goemon_
The Living Force
Same here. Today I had my 2nd session starting around 8 am. It is now 2:50 pm and I still feel the pressure.
nature
Dagobah Resident
So negociations with the french manufacturer are this: 5960€ delivery fees included (in France). No customs taxes among european countries. This is 1.000€ discount for grouped purchase.
One can contact them for customs and delivery fees abroad.
Here is the link to the chamber. it's available at 1.3 and 1.5ATAhttp://www.hyperbare.fr/caisson-hyperbare-Shallow-Dive.php
One can contact them for customs and delivery fees abroad.
Here is the link to the chamber. it's available at 1.3 and 1.5ATAhttp://www.hyperbare.fr/caisson-hyperbare-Shallow-Dive.php
I am really amazed by Laura’s intuition about using Hyperbaric Chamber to oxygenate the body. That is sure and easy way to accelerate and reconnecting to the DNA strands.
And very glad and happy about so many members able to participating this project.
dredger
The Living Force
There's a little trick you can use on search engines, and for this, google remains the most efficient as the subject is not yet "ponerized" 
Best is to use english terms to find more results (maybe you can also find a lot with chinese or russian too, but difficult if you do not know the language)
Trick is simple : choose an illness, translate it in english for those who are not english, then type it on google + add "hbot".
I tried for 4 ones related to illness of some relatives and it works well. I figure out that this "trick" is not really a trick for some here but just an obvious action to do when you search on internet, but I think this what good "to get the message out. In fact, +/- 10 years ago when i was searching on colloidal silver, this is how i did, type any illness folowed by whether "colloidal silver" when i was searching on english references or "argent colloidal" for french ones.
Here are the 4 tests i made :
... and google gives also other terms to search on.
That's all, have good investigations.
Best is to use english terms to find more results (maybe you can also find a lot with chinese or russian too, but difficult if you do not know the language)
Trick is simple : choose an illness, translate it in english for those who are not english, then type it on google + add "hbot".
I tried for 4 ones related to illness of some relatives and it works well. I figure out that this "trick" is not really a trick for some here but just an obvious action to do when you search on internet, but I think this what good "to get the message out. In fact, +/- 10 years ago when i was searching on colloidal silver, this is how i did, type any illness folowed by whether "colloidal silver" when i was searching on english references or "argent colloidal" for french ones.
Here are the 4 tests i made :
psorasis HBOT
osteoarthritis HBOT
ulcerative colitis HBOT
hashimoto disease HBOT
... and google gives also other terms to search on.
That's all, have good investigations.
Goemon_
The Living Force
As I said before, I have bought one Macy-Pan ST702 for myself. If 2 or 3 other members want to become a share-owner or something, we should be able to arrange something.
It would probably be better if those 2 or 3 are, like me, located in the chocolatine part of France, or close to it.
dredger
The Living Force
Hi, on my side i decided to acquire one first low cost model through my company, to test & also to experiment, i may be reselling some in the future with other kind of devices (but will i have the time ??? ... that i wonder). One of my colleague already gathered a couple of documents and i first considered to contact some professionals of the medical domain around (i was thinking about doctors) but finally concluded that if they can prescribe HBOT treatment only for the limited official list of diseases/pathologies, they'll not have much people doing it.
At this stage reselling such products remains a wish, but now it's sure i'll acquire one, soon, and we'll install it first in our offices, my colleagues will have the option to use it and perform a treatment or not. As for Goemon, if any here is located at Luxembourg or south BE or north-east FR we can liaise together and see if we can help each others.
During my investigations, i finally contacted the Austrian manufacturer i mentioned in my previous post here. (AHA Hyperbarics)
So, the good thing is that it's clearly targeted for professionals.
- they have (visibly, didn't dig the subject) all the E.U. official certifications/authorisations/standards ... you can imagine
- they provide with a professional support and come to install the stuff, or they help you to install it using remote video conference
- they also provide with trainings
- from what they say their devices (the air compressor which provide extra oxygen and the one which raise atm pressure) are of high standard and better than the common ones, they mention the fact that due to high level pressure the oxygen tool must deliver more than usual tools do and that their the one they sell does it, but just the price of this air compressor device is EUR 7k !)
- they even provide with UPS and backup devices on their high-end system (clearly for pros)
... but the price is not for common people : 50k+ euros (
)... and would only suit for whether an hospital, a wellness center or a medical house with a couple of doctors who can "fill" the hours of their HBOT system in order to have a minimum return on investment. This remains a good product & service and it would have its market, but the cost approaches the first hard-shelled HBOT devices (from what i remember from my researches)
At this stage reselling such products remains a wish, but now it's sure i'll acquire one, soon, and we'll install it first in our offices, my colleagues will have the option to use it and perform a treatment or not. As for Goemon, if any here is located at Luxembourg or south BE or north-east FR we can liaise together and see if we can help each others.
During my investigations, i finally contacted the Austrian manufacturer i mentioned in my previous post here. (AHA Hyperbarics)
So, the good thing is that it's clearly targeted for professionals.
- they have (visibly, didn't dig the subject) all the E.U. official certifications/authorisations/standards ... you can imagine
- they provide with a professional support and come to install the stuff, or they help you to install it using remote video conference
- they also provide with trainings
- from what they say their devices (the air compressor which provide extra oxygen and the one which raise atm pressure) are of high standard and better than the common ones, they mention the fact that due to high level pressure the oxygen tool must deliver more than usual tools do and that their the one they sell does it, but just the price of this air compressor device is EUR 7k !)
- they even provide with UPS and backup devices on their high-end system (clearly for pros)
... but the price is not for common people : 50k+ euros (
)... and would only suit for whether an hospital, a wellness center or a medical house with a couple of doctors who can "fill" the hours of their HBOT system in order to have a minimum return on investment. This remains a good product & service and it would have its market, but the cost approaches the first hard-shelled HBOT devices (from what i remember from my researches)
Thanks for all the posts in this thread. Have decided to take the plunge and im in the process of purchasing the same Macypan unit that the Chateau purchased. Best price they could give was USD 5,880. They will under-declare the price in order i pay less GST. The only concern i had was that in requesting the payment they wanted me to pay it to an account in Hong Kong. Just checking to see if this was the same payment process for other members who purchased from Macypan. Thanks for the feedback.
Goemon_
The Living Force
I paid in euros to an account in Hong Kong.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated
Unfortunately I am located in the "chocolate croissant" area, however I am willing to make the drive once the other members in the area have finished using it! That way I can bring it back once I have done the 60 sessions.
Hi Dredger, you are much closer to my area than @Goemon_ , since I am close to Luxembourg, maybe we could arrange a loan? or any other possibility that seems appropriate?Hi, on my side i decided to acquire one first low cost model through my company, to test & also to experiment, i may be reselling some in the future with other kind of devices (but will i have the time ??? ... that i wonder). One of my colleague already gathered a couple of documents and i first considered to contact some professionals of the medical domain around (i was thinking about doctors) but finally concluded that if they can prescribe HBOT treatment only for the limited official list of diseases/pathologies, they'll not have much people doing it.
At this stage reselling such products remains a wish, but now it's sure i'll acquire one, soon, and we'll install it first in our offices, my colleagues will have the option to use it and perform a treatment or not. As for Goemon, if any here is located at Luxembourg or south BE or north-east FR we can liaise together and see if we can help each others.
During my investigations, i finally contacted the Austrian manufacturer i mentioned in my previous post here. (AHA Hyperbarics)
So, the good thing is that it's clearly targeted for professionals.
- they have (visibly, didn't dig the subject) all the E.U. official certifications/authorisations/standards ... you can imagine
- they provide with a professional support and come to install the stuff, or they help you to install it using remote video conference
- they also provide with trainings
- from what they say their devices (the air compressor which provide extra oxygen and the one which raise atm pressure) are of high standard and better than the common ones, they mention the fact that due to high level pressure the oxygen tool must deliver more than usual tools do and that their the one they sell does it, but just the price of this air compressor device is EUR 7k !)
- they even provide with UPS and backup devices on their high-end system (clearly for pros)
... but the price is not for common people : 50k+ euros (