Hyperdimensional Politics

Laura said:
"Mosaic Consciousness" will make a lot more sense once you have read Collingwood's "Idea of History" and "Speculum Mentis".

And the Cs did not talk about the slide projector at 5th density. It is mentioned in 17 June 95 session first, with no specific reference to 5 D and, again, if you have made it through the recent reading recommendations, all will be clear! Again, in 14 March 98 session and referred to effects in real life.

Thank you Laura for the feedback. I am half way IoH and will try to catch up with Speculum Mentis. I’ll review those sessions too.
 
Miguel Ángel said:
Laura said:
"Mosaic Consciousness" will make a lot more sense once you have read Collingwood's "Idea of History" and "Speculum Mentis".

And the Cs did not talk about the slide projector at 5th density. It is mentioned in 17 June 95 session first, with no specific reference to 5 D and, again, if you have made it through the recent reading recommendations, all will be clear! Again, in 14 March 98 session and referred to effects in real life.

Thank you Laura for the feedback. I am half way IoH and will try to catch up with Speculum Mentis. I’ll review those sessions too.

I don't think I can emphasize enough how important the recent reading recommendations actually are. They actually do for your brain what they talk about and definitely what the Cs talk about needing to be done with the brain - your most precious asset - in order to increase receiving capability.

If you think about it, that is what the Cs have been pushing from the very beginning: paying close and careful attention to reality, divesting oneself of wishful thinking, increasing awareness via constant knowledge input and application, etc. All of these efforts are seen, via the recent books recommended, to be essential to building highly receptive/active brains.

It's interesting that this is even what the alchemists claim to be the "key".

We must regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. Consider an intelligence which, at any instant, could have a knowledge of all forces controlling nature together with the momentary conditions of all the entities of which nature consists. If this intelligence were powerful enough to submit all this data to analysis it would be able to embrace in a single formula the movements of the largest bodies in the universe and those of the lightest atoms; for it, nothing would be uncertain; the future and the past would be equally present to its eyes. Pierre Laplace

Now, that's "mosaic consciousness" on steroids and beyond.
 
Laura said:
This morning, around the breakfast table, we were talking about the recent French court case where a man was acquitted of raping an 11 year old girl because she "consented." As Pierre said, that just tosses on the trash heap centuries of legal precedent about "age of consent" and why children are not considered to be free agents of choice: because their understanding is not developed, nor is their will. The result of this case is French lawmakers saying that the obvious solution is to CHANGE the LAW and lower the age of consent!!!

It's actually the second case coming up in the media (within a period of 2 months). I bet there are many more.
https://www.rt.com/news/409794-france-consent-age-introduce/

France may set age of consent at 13 after man acquitted of raping 11yo

The French government is considering setting the minimum age for sexual consent following a controversial decision by a jury to spare a man accused of raping an 11-year-old girl. The verdict has sparked a public outcry and calls to revise the law.
The bill, if adopted, will set a benchmark in French law on sexual violence, as it will for the first time define the age limit under which any sexual intercourse with a minor is legally considered rape.

“The question of the age below which the minor’s consent is presumed not to exist is crucial, because there are obviously extremely shocking and unacceptable situations,” French Justice Minister Nicole Belloubet said, as cited by RTL radio.

Regarding the age of consent, Belloubet said that the age of 13 “is worth considering,” while noting that the final decision in each case should lie within the discretion of the judges.

Marlene Schiappa, a junior minister for gender equality, argues that it should lie somewhere between 13 and 15 years.

“Below a certain age, it is considered that there can be no debate on the sexual consent of a child, and that any child below a certain age would automatically be considered to be raped or sexually assaulted,” Schiappa told BMF TV.

The need to amend the law was brought to light by the jury verdict in the case of a 30-year-old man who, back in 2009, allegedly lured an 11-year-old girl into a sexual relationship. Last week, the man, a Cape Verdean native, was tried by a jury court and acquitted after prosecutors, who were seeking eight years in jail for the defendant, failed to prove that the sex was non-consensual.

Under current French law, only sexual acts committed with the use of “violence, coercion, threat or surprise” are considered to be rape, regardless of the victim's age. Penalties are tougher if the victim is under the age of 15, but there is no minimum age of consent.

Following the encounter, the girl, who is of Congolese descent, became pregnant and subsequently gave birth to a baby which her family decided to place in foster care out of fear of being condemned in the community. The family took the case to court, but only years later.

It is the second case in less than two months that came under the media spotlight for what is viewed by some as a verdict too lenient for a suspect accused of sexually assaulting a minor. In late September, an 11-year-old girl reportedly followed a 28-year-old man into his flat north of Paris, where they repeatedly engaged in sexual acts. The girl’s mother said that her daughter was devastated by what happened to her, but was unable to put up any resistance as she was numb from shock.

Despite her mother’s claims that the 11-year-old was unable to defend herself, the prosecutors dropped the charges of rape and charged the perpetrator with sexual assault of a minor below the age of 15 instead, brushing off the girl’s legal team’s arguments that she was unable to surmise what was going on.

The French Criminal Code envisages a punishment of up to five years of incarceration for sexual offenses. For rape, offenders face a much harsher penalty of 15 years behind bars if the victim is 15 or older, and up to 20 years if the victim is a minor under 15.
 
It was pointed out in a hangout the other night, the way the weinstein case contrasts with the charlie Sheen case.

All the anger is aimed at weinstein because he is abusing NON consenting people by using of the power he has over them.

At the same time there is the Charlie Sheen case where an underage boy is raped,
BUT, his mother says he went back to charlie Sheen asking to party some more.

The issue is not abuse of minors but drawing a distinction between Consenting children and non consenting.

So the public are to conclude that there is no problem if the children consent.

The only thing left to do then is Educate them to demand sex at an early age.

but that has already been done.
 
Laura said:
Miguel Ángel said:
Laura said:
"Mosaic Consciousness" will make a lot more sense once you have read Collingwood's "Idea of History" and "Speculum Mentis".

And the Cs did not talk about the slide projector at 5th density. It is mentioned in 17 June 95 session first, with no specific reference to 5 D and, again, if you have made it through the recent reading recommendations, all will be clear! Again, in 14 March 98 session and referred to effects in real life.

Thank you Laura for the feedback. I am half way IoH and will try to catch up with Speculum Mentis. I’ll review those sessions too.

I don't think I can emphasize enough how important the recent reading recommendations actually are. They actually do for your brain what they talk about and definitely what the Cs talk about needing to be done with the brain - your most precious asset - in order to increase receiving capability.

If you think about it, that is what the Cs have been pushing from the very beginning: paying close and careful attention to reality, divesting oneself of wishful thinking, increasing awareness via constant knowledge input and application, etc. All of these efforts are seen, via the recent books recommended, to be essential to building highly receptive/active brains.

It's interesting that this is even what the alchemists claim to be the "key".

We must regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. Consider an intelligence which, at any instant, could have a knowledge of all forces controlling nature together with the momentary conditions of all the entities of which nature consists. If this intelligence were powerful enough to submit all this data to analysis it would be able to embrace in a single formula the movements of the largest bodies in the universe and those of the lightest atoms; for it, nothing would be uncertain; the future and the past would be equally present to its eyes. Pierre Laplace

Now, that's "mosaic consciousness" on steroids and beyond.

Alchemy came to mind for me as well after reading Collingwood. The mind having attained a certain level of thought which becomes the alchemical key. What you just quoted in essence.
 
Anna C.Salter in her book,Predators:Pedophiles,Rapist,and other sex offenders mentions that in Nedearlands exist a group of "professionals" working in order to legalize pedophilia.Their idea is to reduce the age of consent of children(i seen to remember) :scared: My questions are:Are the Hyperdimensional Psychopath so desperate to harvest as much as possible before they will be destroy(they feel the pressure on their heels) or human being need to see the cruel reality in their skin,when their children, the most precious thing they have is damaged and then they will wake up?? :( I do not what to think :cry:
 
munaychasumaq said:
Anna C.Salter in her book,Predators:Pedophiles,Rapist,and other sex offenders mentions that in Nedearlands exist a group of "professionals" working in order to legalize pedophilia.Their idea is to reduce the age of consent of children(i seen to remember) :scared:

About the situation in the Netherlands, SOTT published a recent Focus article: https://www.sott.net/article/359912-LGBTQIAP-Pedophilia-Top-Dutch-gay-publication-publishes-pedophile-coming-out-interview

munaychasumaq said:
My questions are:Are the Hyperdimensional Psychopath so desperate to harvest as much as possible before they will be destroy(they feel the pressure on their heels) or human being need to see the cruel reality in their skin,when their children, the most precious thing they have is damaged and then they will wake up?? :( I do not what to think :cry:

These questions are not mutually exclusive IMO. As for the state of mind of hyper-dimensional psychopaths we can only speculate, or ask the C's for explanations.

The already mentioned SOTT focus article explains (but only up to a point) how and why widespread moral outrage is not only severely lacking (ponerized society, see Łobaczewski) but also actively prevented by a series of counter measures, like propaganda for instance.

Hope this helps a bit. :)
 
SocietyoftheSpectacle said:
The issue is not abuse of minors but drawing a distinction between Consenting children and non consenting.

So the public are to conclude that there is no problem if the children consent.

The only thing left to do then is Educate them to demand sex at an early age.

but that has already been done.

Exactly. I don't see how a child can consent to a sexual intercourse since he doesn't really know what it means and, maybe more importantly, he doesn't know about the (often very destructive) consequences of such an act.

France is, to put it simply (there is some legal sleigh of hand here that I will try to explain in a dedicated article), planning to drop the age of consent from 15 to 13, in the name of children protection in general and protection of the above mentioned 11 year-old girl! :scared:

This proposition comes from the Minister of justice and from the Minister of women rights. The latter, called, Marlène Schiappa is a feminist. And you start to see the irony of the story: a feminist, who is supposed to defend women, advocates for the reduction of the age of consent. This project endangers children and consequently opposes one of the most noble role of women: protecting children.

Meanwhile, the same Marlene Schiappa is spreading the hysteria around the rape culture where, basically, every man is a rapist and even the most benign move or word will be considered as 'assault', 'rape' or 'harassment'.

At this pace, it will soon be illegal for men to talk or even look at women, in the name of women rights while the same nutzoids attempt to legalize pedophilia in the name of children freedom. :shock:

But there can't be freedom when there's no informed and independent decision. Is a Manchurian candidate free to kill? Of course not, he has simply been programmed to do so.

So while preaching freedom for children, the same LGBT&co activists push for an hypersexualisation of the youth. They are creating a generation of brainwashed kids who, after being exposed to so much pro-sex material from the earliest age will end up thinking that they want sex.

In the same way a growing number of children wants to change sex thanks to the effective 'gender theory' and subsequent propaganda.

A sane society would state that a child wanting sex, a child wanting to change sex, is irrelevant. A child, especially a brainwashed one, is not responsible, however an adult is responsible, a society is responsible and their responsibility is to protect children, particularly from decisions that have such irreversible and deleterious effects.
 
luc said:
Laura said:
And I guess that is what gives me hope. The Cs have been so darn right about the whole thing in complete opposition to just about every other "source" going then or since that, even if I am not the "believer" kind of person, I think that the probabilities are high that the possible positive outcomes they have also suggested will come about once we live through the turmoil in specific ways, developing our will, our receivership capability, we will "pass the test."

Yes, I feel hope too among all the chaos and depression. On a personal level, everything has changed for the positive in almost miraculous ways for me, and I feel like living on an entire new planet, yes, in a negative way, but also in a positive one. On a larger scale, I see hope, too - there is the Peterson phenomenon, there are people coming out of the woods on youtube and twitter who have fascinating and deep discussions and thoughts, despite all the ideological battles, psy-ops and what have you; there is so much sanity as well if you look close enough. Maybe more than there has ever been in a sense. It seems people are waking up, and not only in the narrow political or conspiracy theory or new-agey kind of sense, but in the sense that they are beginning to think, and to see, and not just follow some fad or ideology. It's an epic polarization indeed, between total mind-boggling deterioration and awesome development. This too was predicted by the Cs, when they talked about a slave planet and control in 4D and all that (look at the postmodern mind - that is one hell of a slave planet!) and a different future for those who pay strict attention left and right. IF we wrestle as hard as we can. Okay, I have been felling depressed lately too, and on some days could barely hold it together, but here's hope!
That's good to be reminded of. I don't get depressed as much as demotivated because it seems there's little I can do to have an impact. But I'm seeing more and more that just maintaining (and hopefully increasing) my level of being gives me more than enough to do--and is as important as any outreach--maybe more so.
 
Just in from Jordan B Peterson Published on Nov 14, 2017

Intersectionality, individuality and the hero: a discussion with Jonathan Pageau
I woke up at about five thirty this morning to a flood of ideas dealing with the emergence of what has been called "intersectionality" in the postmodern/identity politics world.

Intersectionality is a movement based on the observation that the standard identity groups (race and gender, for example) don't sufficiently capture the variability in oppression that characterizes those who fit into both categories simultaneously (say, black woman).

I realized that the intersection of six or more categories of variation (depending on the degree of differentiation) would produce "groups" of only one individual. In that manner, the idea of the individual is necessarily making its comeback in the ideologies of collectivism that characterize so much modern thinking.

It's an inversion, an indication of our upside down world. Many more ideas came along with that one, some associated with the idea of categorization and the ideal (in a religious and symbolic sense).

I decided to contact Jonathan Pageau, who is the embodied intersection of French Canadian, artist, orthodox icon carver, male, expert on postmodernism, and bearded, as I couldn't easily think of anyone else to talk to about such things.

I didn't edit it at all....
Recommended Links within

Understand Myself (21:36)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IdzC6mJzLA

This video describes a personality assessment and reporting system we have been working on for several years. We launched it this week.

We believe it provides the most detailed, comprehensive description of individual personality currently available, covering the Big 5 primary traits and their 10 associated aspects:
Extraversion: Assertiveness & Enthusiasm
Neuroticism: Withdrawal & Volatility
Agreeableness: Compassion & Politeness
Conscientiousness: Industriousness & Orderliness
Openness to Experience: Openness (creativity) & Intellect (interest in ideas)

This video also reviews our previous psychological intervention, www.selfauthoring.com, describing what it is and how it can be used to improve personal traits and behaviors
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Jonathan Pageau
https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/jonathan-pageau/
Website
http://www.pageaucarvings.com/index.html
Jonathan Pageau’s articles
https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/author/jonathan-pageau/
 
Alejo said:
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But it’s crazy how people these days seem to be like leaves on the wind doing anything just because it’s part of their ideology. I mean a few days ago people went out to scream at the sky... that’s just one of those things that I see absolutely no point in doing, specially with the supposed goal they had. It feels like these people just didn’t even bother questioning the initiative and invested their energy and lives in a completely useless endeavor, if that was a test of the will I’d say the results would return: “no Will present” to the extend that they’ll just go scream in the street if you tell them is the right thing to do.

The implications of that is that (sorry to keep going back to Jordan Peterson) it become extremely easy to turn on in people their very own “concentration camp guard”. It’s our will (and work and knowledge) that prevents these dark aspects to take over our actions, without a will the appropriate maneuver will trigger everyone to embody these aspects and feel completely righteous about it.
I heard a report last night about a hotel soon to open in Washington DC completely designed around the "Resistance" theme! ( https://hotair.com/archives/2017/11/13/ready-resistance-themed-hotel-washington-dc/ ) I suppose this will allow social justice "resisters" to check in and reinforce each other's delusions--to further check out of reality! What's sad, is they think of themselves as the ones who are awake:

From the article: "This sounds absolutely Orwellian to me, but the creator of the hotel says the intent is to appeal specifically to a “woke” crowd, which means she’s intentionally rejecting the business of more moderate and conservative customers.

Honestly, this all makes perfect sense. One of the most reliable principles in any business is ‘Give the people what they want.’ When it comes to progressives, what they increasingly want is a world where it’s possible to never feel threatened by dangerous opinions from people they disagree with. When conservatives are invited to speak on college campuses, progressives demand they be given a safe space. Why should the post-college world be any different? Why leave the progressive bubble if a safe-space-hotel is available to accommodate all your intersectional needs? This is a terrible idea whose time has clearly come."

This real real-estate development reminds me of another featured in this great parody:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-bubble/3428577?snl=1

Another chain of hotels has decided to replace the Bible in hotel rooms with the United Nations "Universal Declaration of Human Rights". Maybe that's not so bad, I guess, but it's unnerving in that this represents a promotion of the U.N. to a god-like level of authority and reverence historically conferred on the Bible--and we all know how well that's worked out.
 
I started reading this thread early yesterday morning, and it was very timely, as I've been thinking about all this craziness from all directions increasing daily. I really appreciate the discussions and thoughts on the forum. They make it feel as there is still some sanity in the world and some hope. I'd been thinking about how the STS side -- human and 4th Density -- keep upping the ante and continuing the spreading of chaos no matter what.

Some of these latest chaotic and absurd phenomena came out of nowhere in the last couple of years, whereas others were much more obvious for much longer. That's what had me thinking about how some of these mind viruses could spread so fast in such a short time too....
 
Pierre said:
This proposition comes from the Minister of justice and from the Minister of women rights. The latter, called, Marlène Schiappa is a feminist. And you start to see the irony of the story: a feminist, who is supposed to defend women, advocates for the reduction of the age of consent. This project endangers children and consequently opposes one of the most noble role of women: protecting children.

Meanwhile, the same Marlene Schiappa is spreading the hysteria around the rape culture where, basically, every man is a rapist and even the most benign move or word will be considered as 'assault', 'rape' or 'harassment'.

In case you haven't seen it, this is excellent: https://www.sott.net/article/367271-The-problem-with-the-MeToo-movement

It's hard to wrap your head around this nonsense, probably because it is riddled with postmodern contradictions. On the one hand, women are absolved of all responsibility whatsoever - it's all about the "bad men". Like the woman in the article said, you don't tell people that they don't need to put their seat-belts on while driving but should instead tell the other drivers to not do stupid things like crashing into your car. Yet this logic is applied to assault on women - it's just ridiculous.

On the other hand, they proclaim even little girls can be so responsible as to give their consent to sexual acts! It's all so upside-down, horrible and brain-dead :mad:
 

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