Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[Joe]

You know when you have something like this and after 25 years of all kind of therapies and tests and ups and downs it is almost unbelievable to actually live without pain. No back pain, no ovary pain, no stomach cramps, no swelling, no muscle spasms, no Dysmenorrhea, no crying in agony, no PMS, etc.

That's excellent news and a great personal testimony Earwen!

 

[RedFox]

Thanks for the report Balance :)

And first day of nuking:
* I felt pain(not strong but still) in my glands and lymph nodes under the chin and upper neck part,

fwiw I didn't see Selenium on the list - you may have enough reserves in your body or diet, but it's generally a good idea to take it to help protect from over oxidization.

 

[Hesper]

Great to hear about everyone's positive experiences! Thanks for the updates Eärwen, Oxajil, LQB, and Balance :)

Just an update on my experience with the iodine protocol:

Since the beginning of the iodine protocol (November 23rd) I've been occasionally pulsing my intake from low to high over the course of a week, with a few days off to detox what needs to come out. When I did it'd typically be a low of 30 mg per day, upwards to about 100 mg/day, then back to 30 mg for a week or two. Detox symptoms were typical bromide reactions, and salt water always cured them. Over the course of the past two weeks I've increased my regular dosage to about 100 mg/day and my max pulse dosage to 300 mg/day. With this last mega-dose I started coughing up significant amounts of phlegm, experiencing a sore throat, exhaustion, and what felt at first to be an ear infection. I gargled with iodine and that helped with the throat and ears, and on my off days I've been taking more vitamin C, slightly more selenium, some zinc for good measure, alpha lipoic acid, NAC, and muscle tested for more milk thistle as well. This, of course, in addition to the salt water.

In reading through the thread it seems that 200-300 mg was the dose used to break up 'tenacious excretions' in the lungs, and I'm wondering if the same isn't true for other areas of the body as well.

With the exhausting effects of this latest pulse dose I decided it was a good time to rest and synthesize what we'd been learning between the autoimmune thread and the iodine protocol. We'd created a document to help organize the autoimmune thread and so I updated it for the iodine protocol. Hopefully it will be useful for people new to the thread. It's still a work in progress, but it's pretty fascinating the territory this group has covered in the past year.

The link is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tU0VnKLYJ4vxdfS7aaDLdJTeWROsAcBxZVTQVm5BVLY/edit#

 

[Balance]

Thanks for the report Balance :)

And first day of nuking:
* I felt pain(not strong but still) in my glands and lymph nodes under the chin and upper neck part,

fwiw I didn't see Selenium on the list - you may have enough reserves in your body or diet, but it's generally a good idea to take it to help protect from over oxidization.

Haha thanks RedFox i totally forgot to add that to my POST...forgot to list one of the main things in the protocol...poor me :D
Is there a way to edit my post somehow?

YES, I'm using selenium 200mcg once a day + brazil nuts(5-6) occasionally.
I think my thyroid is great now. Never felt anything bad except that that low intensity itchiness in the beginning.

Thanks again for the observation :)

 

[monotonic]

With the exhausting effects of this latest pulse dose I decided it was a good time to rest and synthesize what we'd been learning between the autoimmune thread and the iodine protocol. We'd created a document to help organize the autoimmune thread and so I updated it for the iodine protocol. Hopefully it will be useful for people new to the thread. It's still a work in progress, but it's pretty fascinating the territory this group has covered in the past year.

The link is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tU0VnKLYJ4vxdfS7aaDLdJTeWROsAcBxZVTQVm5BVLY/edit#

Thanks. Is access intended to be by permission only?

 

[Hesper]

With the exhausting effects of this latest pulse dose I decided it was a good time to rest and synthesize what we'd been learning between the autoimmune thread and the iodine protocol. We'd created a document to help organize the autoimmune thread and so I updated it for the iodine protocol. Hopefully it will be useful for people new to the thread. It's still a work in progress, but it's pretty fascinating the territory this group has covered in the past year.

The link is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tU0VnKLYJ4vxdfS7aaDLdJTeWROsAcBxZVTQVm5BVLY/edit#

Thanks. Is access intended to be by permission only?

Definitely not, I copied the wrong link - sorry. This one should work:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tU0VnKLYJ4vxdfS7aaDLdJTeWROsAcBxZVTQVm5BVLY/edit?usp=sharing

 

[Meg]

Hello to all, I thought I'd share a little update and some pretty good news.

Wow, that is great news! I am amazed at what it's done for you, Earwen. Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

[Miss.K]

I started Iodine (Lugol's Iodine 12 %) just before new year. I started on a quarter drop a day and got up to a drop a day in 2 weeks time.
I take Clorella, salt and lipsomal vit-C also.
First thing I noticed was getting very sleepy (I've been tired for years but not sleepy, and having some insomnia) and all of a sudden I had a nap in the afternoon, and then at about 9pm was ready to sleep. Then I noticed a slight increase in energy. I have had very little energy the last year (so little energy that it is really a struggle to sit on my chair and work for 8 hours a day)
The energy increase was not enough to make me run around or not struggle to sit and work for 8 hours, but I all of a sudden started to have fantasies about having energy, which I didn't even have the energy to have before.
(I know that daydreaming is stupid, but I still see it as a good thing to have enough energy to have them :) )

Then last Tuesday I woke up with a migraine, and was throwing up and really feeling terrible. I got my hand on some painkillers, and the next 3-4 days the headache came back whenever the painkiller stopped working. I took a break from the Iodine while I was sick and decided to wait until I had had a day without headache or soreness from having had headache, so I started again Monday.

I don't know if this sickness had to do with the Iodine or not, as I had a similar incident last summer long before taking Iodine, though it only lasted a day, and in November it happened again, this time followed by fever, and a week of flu like symptoms.

And another thing that has happened after a while on one drop a day is that I'm sooooo hungry all the time. Like eating about the double of what I can normally eat of sausages with a handful of lard, and still being hungry (not even cravings, but the growling hunger feeling at the top of the stomack)
And then also cravings for carbs at times has increased to a point where I feel possessed by a sugar monster, and have caved in and bought candy. :

Plan so far:
Keep taking Iodine (stay on one drop for a while)
Get some silica
Get the other type of iodine that I forgot the name of now (sorry have brainfog) that should make it possible to take more without so strong negative reactions

Does that seem as a good plan to you?

 

[kalibex]

And then also cravings for carbs at times has increased to a point where I feel possessed by a sugar monster, and have caved in and bought candy. :

Might that be the influence of candida yeast? Have you ever seemed to have that?

 

[Konstantin]

And another thing that has happened after a while on one drop a day is that I'm sooooo hungry all the time. Like eating about the double of what I can normally eat of sausages with a handful of lard, and still being hungry (not even cravings, but the growling hunger feeling at the top of the stomack)
And then also cravings for carbs at times has increased to a point where I feel possessed by a sugar monster, and have caved in and bought candy. :

I posted this a week ago

Bromide is generally well tolerated in dogs. However, some of the side effects are the same as with PB. That is sedation, ataxia, increased hunger, and the 3 -P's: polydipsia (excessive thirst), polyphagia (excessive hunger) & polyuria (excessive urination). In some cases, dogs can develop a skin rash or itchy skin. As with other AEDs, these side-effects can diminish with time. If using a loading dose, these side-effects will be more noticeable. In many cases, reducing the PB or bromide can reduce or eliminate these symptoms. If a dog does show signs of toxicity, many times lowering the dosage and then gradually increasing it back up over time solves the problem. Again be sure to discuss this with your veterinarian.

Some people here reported increased hunger during taking iodine. So its probably a detox side effect from bromine in the body.
The above text is about dogs but i guess that Bromine have at least similar effects in all mammals.

Or combination of Bromine detox and Candida die off .

 

[Miss.K]

And then also cravings for carbs at times has increased to a point where I feel possessed by a sugar monster, and have caved in and bought candy. :

Might that be the influence of candida yeast? Have you ever seemed to have that?

Yes, I think I've been severely infected by candida most of my life. It almost went away after being on the keto diet with no slips for a year (only a bit left in one toenail that I could see) and came back when I started to slip after being sad that my cat died which turned into almost permanently slipping for the last 2 years (trying to get back to not slipping all the time, but slipping a lot)

And another thing that has happened after a while on one drop a day is that I'm sooooo hungry all the time. Like eating about the double of what I can normally eat of sausages with a handful of lard, and still being hungry (not even cravings, but the growling hunger feeling at the top of the stomack)
And then also cravings for carbs at times has increased to a point where I feel possessed by a sugar monster, and have caved in and bought candy. :

I posted this a week ago

Bromide is generally well tolerated in dogs. However, some of the side effects are the same as with PB. That is sedation, ataxia, increased hunger, and the 3 -P's: polydipsia (excessive thirst), polyphagia (excessive hunger) & polyuria (excessive urination). In some cases, dogs can develop a skin rash or itchy skin. As with other AEDs, these side-effects can diminish with time. If using a loading dose, these side-effects will be more noticeable. In many cases, reducing the PB or bromide can reduce or eliminate these symptoms. If a dog does show signs of toxicity, many times lowering the dosage and then gradually increasing it back up over time solves the problem. Again be sure to discuss this with your veterinarian.

Some people here reported increased hunger during taking iodine. So its probably a detox side effect from bromine in the body.
The above text is about dogs but i guess that Bromine have at least similar effects in all mammals.

Or combination of Bromine detox and Candida die off .

It sounds like it. I realize that I have also experienced excessive urination (having to pee all the time) I just thought it was the vitamin c, as I take it in water with baking soda when I run out of lipsomal and don't have energy to make more, and that can cause excessive urination.

I'm unsure if it (iodine) works for getting rid of candida as long I'm on such a low dosage, as I guess it wouldn't be enough to nuke candida, but I'm scared of having very strong reaction if I go higher. I think I have a lot of mercury in my body as I have had a mouth full of silver since childhood and got half of them removed and replaced with plastic almost 2 years ago, and have been very very extra tired since.
Another thing that also might be wrong is that the flat where I lived for 2 years before moving last summer had some repair done, which left all my things covered in red dust, and I got sick with fluelike symptoms lasting about 3 weeks after cleaning up the dust, and then some months later when I had gathered some energy to wash all the walls and behind the fridge where there was still red dust left, I got sick again (for about a week) So I think that the red dust was quite poisonous.

 

[RedFox]

I'm unsure if it (iodine) works for getting rid of candida as long I'm on such a low dosage, as I guess it wouldn't be enough to nuke candida, but I'm scared of having very strong reaction if I go higher. I think I have a lot of mercury in my body as I have had a mouth full of silver since childhood and got half of them removed and replaced with plastic almost 2 years ago, and have been very very extra tired since.
Another thing that also might be wrong is that the flat where I lived for 2 years before moving last summer had some repair done, which left all my things covered in red dust, and I got sick with fluelike symptoms lasting about 3 weeks after cleaning up the dust, and then some months later when I had gathered some energy to wash all the walls and behind the fridge where there was still red dust left, I got sick again (for about a week) So I think that the red dust was quite poisonous.

The way I understand it is the candida is likely there in part because of heavy metals (it holds onto them). So it's probably best to work to get rid of heavy metals first, then tackle the candida.
Did you see this? Cilantro and Chlorella can remove 80% of heavy metals from the body within 42 days
It could be the reason you got sick was the candida dying and dumping all the heavy metals into your blood.

The excess appetite can sometimes be fixed by taking tyrosine too.

 

[Gaby]

There could be candida problems when heavy metals are released. I've been eating lots of fresh garlic and cilantro, and added pau d'arco as a preventive measure. Next, I'll get some chlorella to help with the detox.

I gained 2 kilos on the iodine protocol. I have to remember to stick with the l-tyrosine and ditch the coffee. Even though it is bullet proof coffee, my joint inflammation returned while on coffee. It really has to go for me.

 

[anartist]

Hello friends,
I decided to start this new thread because there are too many topics that iodine relates to. Mercury, lead,aluminum,bromide and fluoride de-tox (halogens), candida, fibromyalgia, hypo-active thyroid, proper endocrine function, fibrous breast formations, virus load, bacteria etc,etc.
The best form seems to be the nascent form. There is much information on the on the web. Prices vary as does the concentrate-1% or 2%.
iodine is utilized by every hormone receptor in the body. I would write more but I will give relay the following. Yes, I have been using nascent iodine with excellent results. I had the murcury fillings removed and used it as a mercury detox. The film on my tongue has cleared up very quickly after trying many anti candida formulas.

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by Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD...

A statistical analysis of the Seattle study (enlarged to include 92 women) was done, which shows that iodine has a highly statistically significant beneficial effect on fibrocystic disease (P < 0.001). Iodine reduced breast tenderness, nodularity, fibrosis, turgidity, and number of macroscysts, the five parameters in a total breast examination score that a physician blinded to what treatment the woman was taking, iodine or placebo, measured. This 36-page report, now available online, was submitted to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1995 seeking its approval to carry out a larger randomized controlled clinical trial on iodine for treating fibrocystic breast disease. It declined to approve the study, telling its lead investigator, Dr. Donald Low, "iodine is a natural substance, not a drug." But the FDA has now decided to approve a similar trial sponsored by Symbollon Pharmaceuticals. This company is enrolling 175 women in a phase III trial, registered on clinicaltrials.gov. (Any women with fibrocystic disease reading this who might be interested in participating in this study should call its sponsor, Jack Kessler, Ph.D., at 508-620-7676, Ext. 201.)
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an update to the information on the FDA approved study by Symbollon. interesting that placebo results were same as or better than Symbollon version of Iodine.
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/symbollon-pharmaceuticals-inc-842345.htm

April 10, 2008 08:00 ET
Symbollon Pharmaceuticals Announces Results of IoGen Phase III Clinical Trial

FRAMINGHAM, MA--(Marketwire - April 10, 2008) - Symbollon Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (OTCBB: SYMBA) today announced the results of a Phase III clinical trial designed to evaluate the effectiveness of IoGen™ for the treatment of moderate to severe cyclic pain associated with fibrocystic breast disease. In the study, patients were dosed once a day for up to six months with either a 6-mg IoGen tablet or placebo. There was no statistically significant difference between the treatment groups on the primary endpoint of pain reduction. The findings demonstrated equivalence between the active 6-mg IoGen formulation and the placebo in achieving the primary efficacy endpoint. The data also showed no statistically significant difference between the two groups in achieving the secondary efficacy endpoint of fibrosis reduction. The overall incidence rates of treatment-related adverse events, serious adverse events or adverse events leading to discontinuation were generally similar between treatment groups.

The study randomized 142 patients. Of this group, 61 patients were included in the IoGen intent-to-treat group and 65 patients in the placebo intent-to-treat group. IoGen was clinically successful in achieving the primary efficacy endpoint of pain reduction in 34 of 61 (56%) patients, compared to positive responders in the placebo group of 38 of 65 (58%) patients. IoGen was successful in achieving the secondary endpoint of at least 25% reduction of fibrosis in 38 of 54 (71%) patients, compared to positive responders in the placebo group of 39 of 61 (64%) patients.

"We are extremely surprised and disappointed by the high placebo results in this study," said Paul Desjourdy, President and CEO of Symbollon Pharmaceuticals. "While we will continue to evaluate the data, the results of this study will severely limit our ability to proceed with the clinical development of IoGen. Based on the Company's limited resources, management and the Board of Directors will be evaluating the Company's ability to continue operations. We have adequate resources to continue operations through June. In light of these clinical results, it may be difficult for us to raise additional resources. Our focus will be to maximize shareholder value by leveraging the Company's proprietary technology."

About Symbollon Pharmaceuticals, Inc.: Symbollon (OTCBB: SYMBA) is a specialty pharmaceutical company focused on the development and commercialization of proprietary drugs based on its molecular iodine technology for women's healthcare and antimicrobials uses. For more information about Symbollon, please visit the company's website at http://www.symbollon.com.

Forward-Looking Statement: This news release contains statements by the Company that involve risks and uncertainties and may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements reflect management's current views and are based on certain assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from those currently anticipated as a result of a number of factors, including, but not limited to, the risks and uncertainties associated with whether (i) we will be able to proceed with the clinical development of IoGen, (ii) Symbollon will be able to obtain the resources necessary to continue operations as a going concern, (iii) Symbollon will be able to acquire the Chinese pharmaceutical company, Medpharm, (iv) the Company will be able to enter into new arrangements with corporate partners, (v) management and the Board of Directors will be able to maximize shareholder value by leveraging the Company's proprietary technology, and (v) such other factors as may be disclosed from time-to-time in the Company's reports as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

 

[darksai]

Yesterday (day 2) I added in the cofactors

Warm salt water (1/2tsp) on waking
15min later, probiotic s & digestive enzymes
20 min later, breakfast with 25mg iodine in Lugol’s, selenium, riboflavin, Vit D (6000 IU) and COQ10.
Another round of salt water about 45 min after.
4-5gm Vitamin C , about 3 hours afterwards.
1660mg Mag. Glycinate, 1mg Boron and probiotics before bed.

My stools have been runny since last week sometime, but even more so yesterday this became more pronounced, yellower, and my urine was very also bright yellow. I’ve also had trouble digesting my fat bomb today, along with mild tummy rumbles and a slight ache in lower intestine. From what I’ve read so far, the sounds like my liver and bile was (and still is, I think) being detoxed. Throughout the day I also had a similar experience to what m describe earlier in the thread, except it was much less severe and cleared up quite quickly after an extra glass of salt water when I got home from work and supper. I then went for my weekly dance classes (swing), and didn't notice anything different. I did have crampiness at the back of my knees and down to my feet afterwards, which is quite rare for me after only 2.5 hours of dancing, but we had a whole hour of uptempo practice (75~95bpm, double-time) so I can't really put it down as a result of the iodine. By mid to late morning today, that had cleared up.

I had the same today, adding in milk thistle to the breakfast list for the liver. My head was a bit clearer, urine less yellow, and bowel activity basically halved, with solid (although still pale) stools by around 3pm. A new thing though was an ache on my left shoulder, that shifted back and forth from just under the blade near the spine to the collar bone throughout the day. It was at its worst in the morning, and lessened towards the afternoon, though it was more just an annoyance than anything debilitating. I'm going to have an epsom salt bath after this anyway ;)


All in all, it seems I'm having mild detox symptoms, and I'm still functioning quite well, better than I was before I started even, so I'm going to continue at 4 drops with cofactors for a few days (catastrophe aside) and see how I react. If I remain the same, back down until I stabilize, if the symptoms get worse, then take a break and restart at 1 drop, and maintain the current protocol if I get better and consider removing cofactars one by one to try and see which ones I actually need.