Yep. This analysis suggests a different ordnance than an MK-84, but IDF culpability nontheless:
Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide
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The original post is here in Russian
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t.me
English direct translation with DeepLУдар Израиля по баптистской больнице в Газе: а был ли мальчик?
Вчера вечером прогремела новость об ударе АОИ по баптистскому госпиталю Аль-Ахли в Газе. Она ожидаемо вызвала бурную реакцию: СМИ писали о почти тысяче погибших палестинцев, главы иностранных государств и движений осуждали Израиль и призывали к мести.
Израильтяне в ответ запустили пропагандистскую машину, то отрицая налет, то рассказывая о якобы детонации склада БК под больницей, то просто открыто смакуя гибель жителей анклава. При этом детали произошедшего оставались до конца неясными.
Картина прояснилась к утру, когда появились кадры последствий ночного взрыва. На них можно разглядеть массу сгоревших автомобилей на парковке перед больницей, брошенные личные вещи и следы от осколков.
Но иных разрушений — руин зданий на территории госпиталя, следов от прилета авиабомб — на опубликованных материалах нет. Позже АОИ выложила съемку места удара с воздуха, где уничтоженных строений тоже не видно.
Аналогичная ситуация и с погибшими: хотя палестинцы сообщили о гибели 800 человек, в Сети есть снимки пары десятков тел. Версия, что сотни трупов сознательно не показывают публике, неубедительна — едва ли бы ХАМАС отказался от такой картинки в СМИ.
️В свете всех фактов можно сказать, что свидетельств уничтожения больницы в Газе и почти тысячи жертв нет. Возможно, по комплексу действительно попала неисправная палестинская ракета, но подтвердить это сложно — вряд ли ХАМАС покажет найденные осколки.
Налицо яркий пример информационной войны — палестинцы оперативно максимально раздули прилет по территории больницы, а история ушла на мировой уровень и зажила своей жизнью.
И это можно объяснить: бомбардировки сектора Газа и заявления израильских политиков создали соотвествующий фон, когда новость об ударе АОИ по полному госпиталю не воспринимается чем-то необычным и принципиально невозможным.
Инфографика в высоком разрешении
Last night, news broke of an IDF strike on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza. Expectedly, it provoked a strong reaction: the media wrote about almost a thousand Palestinian deaths, foreign heads of state and movements condemned Israel and called for revenge.
The Israelis responded by launching a propaganda machine, denying the raid, talking about the alleged detonation of a BK warehouse under the hospital, or just openly savoring the deaths of the enclave's residents. At the same time, the details of what happened remained completely unclear.
But there are no other destructions - ruins of buildings on the territory of the hospital, traces from the arrival of air bombs - on the published materials. Later, the IDF posted an aerial shot of the site of the strike, where the destroyed buildings are also not visible.
The situation with the dead is similar: although the Palestinians reported the deaths of 800 people, there are pictures of a couple dozen bodies on the Web. The version that hundreds of corpses are deliberately not shown to the public is unconvincing - Hamas would hardly refuse such a picture in the media.
There is a vivid example of information warfare - the Palestinians promptly maximized the influx on the hospital grounds, and the story went global and took on a life of its own.
And it can be explained: the bombing of the Gaza Strip and statements of Israeli politicians created a corresponding background, when the news about the IDF strike on a full hospital is not perceived as something unusual and fundamentally impossible.
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unkl brws
Dagobah Resident
I just watched this "press conference" with Biden. It was just a whispering, slurred speech. The best part is at the end where he toddles off and doesn't acknowledge any questions. Be sure to have the volume up and turn on the closed captions, otherwise you won't understand anything he says.
www.c-span.org
President Biden Vows Israel Will Be Safe
Slavyangrad posted the following:
t.me
New footage (image taken from video) from the area of the hospital after the strike:
t.me
And the US just vetoed a UN Security Council resolution proposed by Brazil, regarding cancelling the forced evacuation of North Gaza by Israel. 12 in agreement, 1 opposed (US), Russia and UK abstaining.
Slavyangrad
What oddities are there in the attack on a hospital in the Gaza Strip: analysis of the Military Chronicle Hamas and the IDF blame each other for the attack on Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians insist it was an Israeli bomb; the Israelis say it was a faulty Hamas...
t.me
New footage (image taken from video) from the area of the hospital after the strike:
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📹 Sputnik's new footage from the area of the Al-Ahli hospital after the shelling. According to the latest figures from the Gaza Health Ministry, 471 people were killed and more than 300 injured in the attack on the hospital, most of them women and children. Debris is still being cleared, so...
t.me
And the US just vetoed a UN Security Council resolution proposed by Brazil, regarding cancelling the forced evacuation of North Gaza by Israel. 12 in agreement, 1 opposed (US), Russia and UK abstaining.
Looks like Slavyangrad translated the post that was made by RT "daughter" TG channel (Military Chronicle). They are the ones who did all the previous "oddities" lists about Hamas attack on 7th of October.
RT also posted a video of the bomb. Since their TG channel is blocked for Westerners, at least in Northern America, here it is on YT:
And here's the full text again:
Answer to my question why would 'they' want to destroy Israel - unintended consequences?
It's a bit unnerving to think that the 4D PTB has an overarching plan that uses chaos on this level to achieve well-defined and long-term goals on another level, under tight control from our perspective.
Perhaps they have set up 'Israel' for certain purposes and now they are moving to the next stages. They are burning Israel and others for the 'looge' needed as things progress and accelerate. Just like somebody established a place like Gobekli Tepe for a certain time, then, goal accomplished, they buried it and moved on to the next stage. There is a stop-and-start pattern in the activity around ancient North American Megalithic sites as well. They work from a stillstand of time so all this is like a game to them it seems.
It's a bit unnerving to think that the 4D PTB has an overarching plan that uses chaos on this level to achieve well-defined and long-term goals on another level, under tight control from our perspective.
Perhaps they have set up 'Israel' for certain purposes and now they are moving to the next stages. They are burning Israel and others for the 'looge' needed as things progress and accelerate. Just like somebody established a place like Gobekli Tepe for a certain time, then, goal accomplished, they buried it and moved on to the next stage. There is a stop-and-start pattern in the activity around ancient North American Megalithic sites as well. They work from a stillstand of time so all this is like a game to them it seems.
msasa79
Jedi Master
Within the context provided, it seems somehow 'telling' that Zakharova asked for satellite images as a proof of Israel's non-involvement in the hospital strike, as if Russians know something more about the incident, but not willing, at least not yet, to come forward to public with it on their own.
Since all this started on Oct 7th, been wondering if the development of the situation will be such that maybe favorable public opinion/stance would be reached for the actual truth about 'original' 9/11 to finally come out, what the C's mentioned Russia's been 'waiting for'.
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Regarding the numbers of people killed at Al-Ahly hospital, wether they were or not 500 victims, it is not only the hospital itself, but also its surroundings. The majority of the world population knows that hospitals are not attacked, period. Except Israeli forces, it seems.
Same caption from Russian RT Telegram channel, description below
The situation in the courtyard of Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza, near where the strike took place today.
According to a doctor, some 30,000 people are here, along with patients and civilians who are now living in tents outside the hospital.
"If our hospital is bombed too, it will be a disaster. After yesterday's strike on the hospital, the bombing of the city has not stopped. For example, an hour ago they hit residential buildings 50-200 meters from our hospital," cardiologist Khaled Abu Samra told RT.
RT in Russian
Unless there were multiple strikes at different times that day, looks the same to me. Timestamp goes back and forth between 15:59 and 18:59.
This video says 19:59 (an hour later? programming error?) [edited: I'd made an error and thought it was 18:59, same time):
At least in the following, Al Jazeera uses GMT and local Palestinian time (GMT+3). In their article on the strike, they say:
Which matches the videos.
Other sources had said the strike occurred around 18:30, or a half hour before the timestamp on the videos. Al Jazeera first reported it at 16:49 GMT/19:49 GMT+3. (Can't find anything before then, but maybe someone else can.)
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I think it's partly to align with the Western narrative that Israel is right to fight the Palestinians population all there being Muslim "terrorists", even if it means pressing "Jihad candidates" button at "opportune" times and places to create the needed narrative in order to increase fear among the Western population (France here but other nations in Europe and USA as seen previously in this thread). Fear in general but also, atm, fear that identical things would/will happen on our lands, unless these Western populations accept more restrictions on freedoms -and surely far more- in order to "avoid these terror attacks".
Macron said a few days ago that France should get used to being afraid; It's not the first time he's said it, but he seems to enjoy repeating it.
Just a thought: Or maybe they said they did bombing it knowing they did not (while some unknown-to-them inside faction could have) because they can't help it, they have to take instantly credit for it, hubris and all that.
Afraid of him for sure, he is the Macronimus monster!
Here in Spain, too, we are on alert 4 out of 5 for the danger of terrorist attacks. Totalitarianism is once again rearing its snake-like head. People have been scared since Covid, and drilled so they're going to be afraid. And the rest, like us, will have to put up with what's happening with a lot of patience.
Over 1,300 children killed in Gaza after conflict escalated — top Palestinian diplomat
Riyad al-Maliki stressed that a child is killed in the Palestinian enclave every 15 minutes
tass.com
Israel kills 100 children in Gaza every day: Rights group
Israel has killed an average of 100 children every day in its relentless bombing campaign on the besieged Gaza Strip, a Geneva-based rights group says.
www.presstv.ir
Palestinian death toll exceeds 3,300 and 13,000 injured in Gaza: Health Ministry
There is a severe shortage of medicines in Gaza along with problems in accessing hospitals, says Palestinian health minister - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
A jew is not a sionist:
The bread was the only food they were able to eat. They can not cook, no electricity. Now they will die of hunger.
SlipNet
The Living Force
Emotionally I'm a combination of sadness and anger at the moment. We cannot stop this from happening, and apparently according to the C's "nor should you want to". So there will be a cleansing of the earth, how long will we suffer this? I've gotta admit, I'm impatient for cosmic justice at this point. But such things cannot be forced by our will and actions, so we just have to wait it out and note all the atrocities, bear witness to them, and never, ever forget the real villains in all this. I have faith that the psychopaths will have to face justice at some point, but at the moment I tend to think that it'll be a 5d justice, nothing will happen in our global pathocracy. These are awful times we are living in,
