Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

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Anart,
Not to go all "off topic" but we get asked that a lot. (As I'm sure you can imagine) There are many many people already fighting the Catholic church. Actually 10s of 1000's of people as a matter of fact. Many people at WWP involve themselves in that fight as well. While WWP's focus may be narrow the members are not.

My sense about R3X is not that there's some elaborate plot. I think he was just another person on the internet desperate to make some kind of name for himself and be in charge of something. It all backfired and a lot of people got pulled into it. I would keep a firm watch on your perimeter for shennanigans related to the op from WITP and continue to moderate your forum accordingly. But beyond that... just let them go away. They have very short attention spans. While WITP has certainly been successful at making a lot of noise and being the source of a lot of drama, they have a less stellar track record of actually accomplishing anything of value. WWP on the other hand has brought the most wealthy, dangerous and litigious cult in modern history to the brink of implosion and in the process helped 100's and 100's of people and families find freedom from it's grip. Even though I personally have done but a little in this effort I'm very proud of the accomplishments of Chanology (as the anti-Scientology operation was originally called) And stand behind it as a human not just an "Anon"
 
slobeck said:
Anart,
Not to go all "off topic" but we get asked that a lot. (As I'm sure you can imagine) There are many many people already fighting the Catholic church. Actually 10s of 1000's of people as a matter of fact. Many people at WWP involve themselves in that fight as well. While WWP's focus may be narrow the members are not.

Got it - thanks!
 
Ingraham Effingham said:
Laura said:
Jerry said:
I suppose a skeptical approach to reading a post may come across as grumpy.

Jerry, you are being about as helpful to all the rest of us as Jake about now. Are YOU an agent planted on this forum to create problems???

OMG !

She was making a point {to Jerry), IE, not speaking literally, you can take off the allcaps key. ;)
 
anart said:
Jerry, you are being about as helpful to all the rest of us as Jake about now. Are YOU an agent planted on this forum to create problems???

OMG !
She was making a point {to Jerry), IE, not speaking literally, you can take off the allcaps key. ;)

:lol2:

BTW, they're not called "Agents" anymore...now they're "Social Engineering Technicians" :P
 
Jakesully said:
It was also around this time that I noticed the Project Mayhem thread on WITP, and made the Project Mayhem 2012 thread here on the Cassiopaea forum, in this very subforum, in a rather panicked state. _http://projectmayhem2012.org/

To me this Project Mayhem 2012 looked/looks like a slick COINTELPRO vectoring operation against the WITP community.

I found an interesting DOX about Project Mayhem too. I don't quite understand it all, YET... but it's very interesting.

http://pastebin.com/Wax1f6Ut
 
HI r3xypoo. Let's play a game of "look at me call you on all of your completely wrong points"

Jakesully said:
This political struggle in Anonymous was framed in terms of "hatefag" vs. "moralfag".

Hatefag = Anons who have no qualms about ruining innocent people's lives "for the lulz" or enjoying images of gore, tortured cats, etc. Essentially, pathological types.
Moralfag = Anons who express outrage and disgust at Hatefags, and want to utilize the Anonymous MO as a positive force, as in peaceful hacktivism and protests.

You invented those definitions. Completely. 'hatefag' is yet another term you made up. There were "lulzfags" who wanted Chanology to primarily be for fun, and "moralfags" who wanted it to be for justice.
Injecting words like "hacktivism" doesn't help your case either. Chanology was not that at all after Jan 08. The "pathological" and outrage and digust stuff makes me think that you live in some sort of weird made up world 24/7 and have only a surface picture of Anonymous culture. Kinda sad since you actively try to hijack it.

888chan was positioned right in the middle of this kind of "civil war" in Anon culture.

888chan hosted a lot of boards for local Anon Chanology cells. With 888chan, I also had the goal of expanding the scope of this hacktivism from Scientology to other fronts such as Freedom of Information and Net Neutrality.

Now, a curious thing about the rise of 888chan, was that I ended up running interference against those *channers who wanted to destroy those "moralfags" at WhyWeProtest.net (hit it with DDoS, etc.).

I did this in two ways.

1) By playing their raiding/trolling game better than they did, so as to detract users from them.
2) By actively interfering with raids against WWP and warning the WWP staff about impending raids.

Thanks for admitting that you try to control what Anonymous does by being an egotistical personal army leaderfag wannabe.

That's where this idea for "Project Vibe" or "VibeCraft" started. I'd been a first-hand witness to these hacktivism operations, and noted that it was difficult to keep the culture of such a community active and participating effectively.
You mean the culture you tried to actively rape and cheapen by forcing a bizzarro version of it down gullible people's throats?

The basic idea of VibeCraft (Vibe being a portmanteau of Virtual Tribe) was to design hacktivism communities intelligently, from the ground up. Ideally this would contain all of the necessary facets of the community, such as an imageboard (like the *chans), irc, a wiki, etc., and all hosted on I2P (darknet), with two levels of forced random nicknames. (A random nickname for the user account, a separate random name for each specific operation or event). The community would host no more than 150 active participants at the time (Due to Law of 150, see Malcolm Gladwell's Tipping Point). Users would be promoted through a points system according to participation, and the entire community would spawn offshoots of itself, before disbanding after roughly 3 months or so. The idea there would be to remove the inherent vulnerability of a hacktivism website always being a target for counterattacks. Or, to design the community as a kind of macro-organism that works according to Darwinian rules of overbreeding to ensure survival and natural selection. I also wanted to design the culture of the community like a sort of game, so that the hacktivism would be a product of rich interaction, and not the sole focus.

"Promotions" and ranks in general is SO against the very basis of Anonymous history and culture that it even makes me raise an eyebrow. Design the culture? You are not our architect, buddy. You are not even the rag we wipe our feet with.



COINTELPRO
You are a nutcase.

I also want to state as an aside and a response to the criticism of my having changed usernames so many times before, this is more or less for practical reasons, that one way to maintain anonymity is to change usernames frequently, not draw too much attention, and if one does draw too much attention, to change their nickname. Of course, I knew once I got in to running websites and working on projects (VibeCraft), that these ideas were tied to me, and to speak about them would identify me as r3x. I had also accepted the inherent risk of being identified as r3x, because I had been doxed once before, and I knew I would be re-doxed once the VibeCraft idea began attracting attention.

Hahaha, in a system you designed with ranks and promotions YOU wanted to retain anonymity. Cute.


behind-the-scenes Anti-Troll and Anti-COINTELPRO work, especially with regard to irc.anonops.li.

Another facet of Anonymous culture you wanted to stick your dick in? I wonder why you target the newer, less weathered Anonymous communities like WITP and anonops. HMM.

We exposed users on AnonOps and elsewhere, such as:

- Shrew,
- AnonTangoDown _http://twitter.com/#!/anontangodown (who was going after Sabu, the leader of LulzSec, and also apparently doxed Mavendetta),
- Xenony/xen0nymous ( _http://www.youtube.com/user/xen0nymous)
- Nederland Vrij (he was mainly on Facebook)

Who were actively "doxing" moderators of WITP and trying to whip up 4chan /b/ and AnonOps irc against WITP.

Them and everyone else who saw your posts and WITP bullshit on 4chan. This is what happens when you try to hijack a culture that is not yours. I also remember you calling myself and other unrelated people those very names (eg: Shrew, etc). It's like you think there are only 5 people that hate you and everyone who speaks out against you is them. WRONG. I'm on skype with at least 16 motherfuckers and we've been making fun of your downfall this whole time. =]

We finally managed to put an end to all of this when we compiled pastebin profiles on two specific users who were acting like COINTELPRO, and one who was just causing trouble. I myself was more or less directing the compiling of this information, and produced the finished product:

Put an end to what? You are still a pariah, and WITP is still a joke among Anonymous.

The impersonation trolling, the "dox" battles, and trolling against me of this VibeCraft idea, had all fairly weakened my credibility as a moderator, due to certain other moderators mistrusting me. I could tell by about August 12th or 13th that all of the drama and lack of focus and direction was killing the community, and at that point I was making posts to try and keep morale up. I posted a PM to Mavendetta and firstmonkey, and made it clear in no uncertain terms, that WITP needed more admins to be available online, leading to a community vote on new (additional) admins.

Yeah, it was spammers and trolls. Not, you know, undeniable and concrete proof that you intentionally and in a premeditated manner attempted to usurp the WITP community.

It was also around this time that I noticed the Project Mayhem thread on WITP, and made the Project Mayhem 2012 thread here on the Cassiopaea forum, in this very subforum, in a rather panicked state. _http://projectmayhem2012.org/

To me this Project Mayhem 2012 looked/looks like a slick COINTELPRO vectoring operation against the WITP community. This may not be the case, but I'm just stating this for the record. I understand many have thought the same thing about this VibeCraft thing, but for the record, I never pushed that idea on anyone, always offered it as a suggestion (for an eventual method of decentralization), and presented it in the spirit of brainstorming.

And then, if I recall correctly, my dox were released on Sunday, August 14th. I pretty much lost my mind at that point, and acted very stupidly (I know, I was acting stupidly all along, but this was overboard). That night I first made a post stating that I was resigning, but then later on that night, I retracted my resignation and put myself up for a moderator review. My pseudo-logical, egotistical reasoning to myself was that I still wanted to spark debate within the community, especially with regard to that Project Mayhem 2012 website, as well as conspiracy-related or other controversial subjects.

If there are any details or time periods you would like me to talk about more, please ask or comment.

Oh yeah. Project Mayhem. The only thing that could possibly compete with you in terms of sheer lunacy and idiocy. That's what it was, competition, right? Because that shit reads almost exactly like Vibecraft. Maybe you should go back to blaming magicians for your downfall like you did in IRC that one time
 
The impersonation trolling, the "dox" battles, and trolling against me of this VibeCraft idea, had all fairly weakened my credibility as a moderator, due to certain other moderators mistrusting me.
Really?

Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what weakened your credibility. Along with being completely batshit insane.
 
I realize there is a lot of history here and that this is the only place (currently) to address 'rx3' - however - we'd really appreciate it if everyone could hold the verbal abuse in check. I realize that's not how things usually play out, but this forum actually has a 'censored word' filter (that I just had to add to ;) ) - so if you could respect that, it would be appreciated. I also realize that 'rx3' pretty much has it coming (understatement of the year) ... but... if that could happen elsewhere, that would be great.

I suppose at some point we'll just close this thread since - ultimately - this entire discussion has little to do with this forum - but - for now we'd like to allow people to post if they feel they need to. So - if you could keep your audience in mind ( a bunch of weird old people) that would be great.
 
PlanningAhead said:
Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it.

:headbash: :headbash: :nuts: I don't even want to know what "Chaos Magick" is...

~sigh~
 
anart said:
PlanningAhead said:
Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it.

:headbash: :headbash: :nuts: I don't even want to know what "Chaos Magick" is...

~sigh~

From what I gather, magicians. Like... wizard hat and robe magicians. One of the many, many things r3x blamed for his own shortcomings.
 
Guardian said:
Jakesully said:
It was also around this time that I noticed the Project Mayhem thread on WITP, and made the Project Mayhem 2012 thread here on the Cassiopaea forum, in this very subforum, in a rather panicked state. _http://projectmayhem2012.org/

To me this Project Mayhem 2012 looked/looks like a slick COINTELPRO vectoring operation against the WITP community.

I found an interesting DOX about Project Mayhem too. I don't quite understand it all, YET... but it's very interesting.

http://pastebin.com/Wax1f6Ut

Right. They're trying to tie Project Mayhem to me and Cassiopaea.org too. It really begs the question, why? And who runs Project Mayhem 2012? Is it the Jedburgh Corp again?
 
NYCAnon said:
From what I gather, magicians. Like... wizard hat and robe magicians. One of the many, many things r3x blamed for his own shortcomings.

I was afraid that's what he meant. I really have no words. Talk about diametrically opposed to what we discuss here - it's really beyond belief. That's not only 'batshit insane', it's just lame. And we wonder why people think we're more nuts than we are - with people like 'rx3' out there spreading this kind of slime, no wonder. :rolleyes:
 
anart said:
I suppose at some point we'll just close this thread since - ultimately - this entire discussion has little to do with this forum - but - for now we'd like to allow people to post if they feel they need to. So - if you could keep your audience in mind ( a bunch of weird old people) that would be great.

Oh I hope not, I'm learning a LOT here, the patterns and connections that are coming out are AMAZING. I still can't tell if JakeSully is a paid part of the Jedburgh Corp, or if he's doing it purely for ego's sake, but I have a feeling we'll get to that eventually.

What makes me so suspicious is how much time Sully has put into all this. Who's paying his bills while he's spending HOURS a day piddling in Anonymous' Post Toasties?
 
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