Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

[EGVG]

I wish they could ban YOU and not only your account, this mess is really taking a lot of energy out of me and I'm sure out of everyone involved or following it too.

They can ban him, and they probably will, but if we don't learn about this stuff, he'll just be back under another Nic...or someone like him.

If we're going to fight oppression, we have to know who the enemy really is.

(deep breath) :)

 

[Guardian]

Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it.

What?? "Chaos Magick" was all about reaching altered states of consciousness?

It sounds like Jakesully understands the principles behind "Chaos Magic" (such as they were) about as much as he understands the Anonymous ideals?

 

[MnSportsman]

Anart,
I read them this morning about 1000 CST, & I appreciate your reply.

My respects & I will not comment again.
JB

 

[anart]

Anart,
I read them this morning about 1000 CST, & I appreciate your reply.

My respects & I will not comment again.
JB

It's totally okay, I just wanted to make sure you knew the background and why this thread is even happening at all. And, yes, the connection was made between that earlier thread and this one. Apologies if my response seemed abrupt. :)

 

[Nawd]

I suppose at some point we'll just close this thread since - ultimately - this entire discussion has little to do with this forum - but - for now we'd like to allow people to post if they feel they need to. So - if you could keep your audience in mind ( a bunch of weird old people) that would be great.

Oh I hope not, I'm learning a LOT here, the patterns and connections that are coming out are AMAZING. I still can't tell if JakeSully is a paid part of the Jedburgh Corp, or if he's doing it purely for ego's sake, but I have a feeling we'll get to that eventually.

What makes me so suspicious is how much time Sully has put into all this. Who's paying his bills while he's spending HOURS a day piddling in Anonymous' Post Toasties?

it does seem to be a very detailed and well documented trail with lots of effort

Yes and of which J.S. can 'bow out' whenever questions get tough, and when held accountable. Go figure. So frustrating! But not suprising.

 

[go2]

It's time for me to bow out.

You played that well, Jake. It is almost as if you are real. Did you have a part in Blade Runner?

Time for a smoke.......

 

[Buddy]

Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it.

I don't even want to know what "Chaos Magick" is...

~sigh~

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I found an interesting DOX about Project Mayhem too. I don't quite understand it all, YET... but it's very interesting.

http://pastebin.com/Wax1f6Ut

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[quote author=THAT site]
HOW TO BE A MAGICIAN

Simple. Declare yourself a magician, behave like a magician, practice magic every day.

Be honest about your progress, your successes and failures. Tripping on 500 mushrooms might loosen your astral sphincter a little but it will not generally confer upon you any of the benefits of the magic I'm discussing here. Magic is about what you bring BACK from the Shining
Realms of the Uberconscious. The magician dives into the Immense Other in search of tips and hints and treasures s/he can bring home to enrich life in the solid world. And, if necessary, Fake it till you make it.[/quote]
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[quote author=Jake-AKA-Tele at WITP]
1d)To be an Anon Requires Egolessness. To be an Admin of Anons Requires Selflessness.

[...]

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. -Tyler Durden
[/quote]

Wonder if Jake can take his own advice?

 

[Richs]

You see, psychopaths have a blind spot and incredible egos... plus they count on their authoritarian personality type followers to support them no matter how obvious things get. And so far, it has worked. The filth and degradation of the criminal gang in charge of this planet couldn't be any more obvious, but with the control of the media and the military AND the massive support of at least 25% of the population (the authoritarian types) who are very vocal and willing to get out and be active on behalf of their masters (including participating in cyberwarfare), there's not much chance of any activism making any real changes.

I used to think that educating people would do it, but I don't think that anymore. I think that things are going to have to get very, very bad before their followers wake up.

Educating as many people as possible is certainly helpful, but I have thought for years now, exactly as stated by Laura, that it is going to take some really, really bad stuff to 'ring the alarm bell' for the majority to awaken. And, from the looks of things, some bad stuff is on it's way in the not to distant future.

 

[Guardian]

I'm NOT sure positive yet, but I think I've found a bunch of computer war games that Jakesully (Telemachos) and Alex Berta (Jedburgh) play with each other.

http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Telemachos
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Jedburgh

 

[cubbex]

[00:33] <Sixtwelve> which part of this speech do you talk about how sorry you are for trying to recruit for your cult?
[00:33] <Sixtwelve> Let's skip ahead to that part
[00:34] <Discord_Dan> Oh this culty -shite- again
[00:34] <Telemachos> from my perspective this Project Mayhem 2012 is promoting Discordianism and chaos magick in the guise of Anonymous activism
[00:34] <Sixtwelve> ....wait
[00:34] <Sixtwelve> chaos magick?
[00:34] <BabsLoly> O.O
[00:34] <proper> no, he will just keep preaching his bullshit and COMPLETELY ignoring the problem
[00:34] <proper> he is mind-spamming you
[00:34] <anonnj> we seen the evidence all of us so dispute it
[00:34] <proper> playing you all. AGAIN.
[00:34] <Sixtwelve> CHAOS MAGICK
[00:34] <Poppins> wow I guess they were right Magick is involved
[00:34] <Poppins> CHAOS MAGICK is now a meme

Looks like the same pattern of Jake here; avoidance. Also I've seen what Jake do, like on that post about his poor life, don't know if that's true, really, how to differentiate his post from other users' post about their life? maybe cause it was a pity ploy and a good oportunity to touch our hearts. But I've seen that be sensitive doesn't mean having conscience, that some people may really feel bad about them but when they hurt others they kind of doesn't understand, they don't get it, all it is about them.

So I know this doesn't relate to psyops but it relates to something I've read on political ponerology (what a great book, and its not as hard as I thought also I am just beginning to read it) online page:

Living in a world whose morals and customs are meaningless to them and even seen as oppressive, psychopaths dream of a "happy" and "just" world where their depraved worldview is accepted as reality. They seek, by any means necessary, to achieve positions in government where their dreams can be brought to fruition. If injustice does exist in a society, their statements regarding the 'unfairness' of their situation can resonate with those who actually do experience such injustice. Thus, revolutionary doctrines can be accepted by both groups for diametrically opposed reasons.

So that thing of "how sorry I am because the cassiopaea users have witnessed this drama", juhhmm.
You can read the complete page here if someone wants to:
http://ponerology.com/evil_2b.html

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You made my day with that picture LOL, that page gives a completely new meaning to a sheep beleving to be a magician.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

The impersonation trolling, the "dox" battles, and trolling against me of this VibeCraft idea, had all fairly weakened my credibility as a moderator, due to certain other moderators mistrusting me.

Really?

Because I'm pretty sure it was the fact that when you were presented with evidence that you were trying to force Anonymous into this Cassiopaea stuff, your only justification was that the "Chaos Magick" made you do it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what weakened your credibility. Along with being completely batshit insane.

So was Alex Berta making fun of Jake when he replied on WITP that chaos magick "made him do it"?

 

[Guardian]

So was Alex Berta making fun of Jake when he replied on WITP that chaos magick "made him do it"?

Yeah, I think they're all friends, if not co-workers, and they're playing a "cyberwar game" with the Anons AND us.

"Telemachos" was the son of Odysseus, who pretended to be insane...think about it.

 

[Iron]

What I find really strange, is that how he can remain so calm?
Jakesully responses are evasive, but well worded and coherent ( not mind the lies ). Its like being in a room full of people demanding that you explain yourself, you dont comply, people losing their patience, others shaking their heads in disbelief, and even with Anart saying that he is in the end of his rope, he did not tried to directly defend himself , just indirectly kept on trying to get our attention to the Annonymous websites.

Jesus christ one thing is read about it (COINTELPRO) happening in Adventures with Cassiopaea, another very differently is seeing this happen in real time. Just spechless.

 

[Buddy]

What I find really strange, is that how he can remain so calm?
Jakesully responses are evasive, but well worded and coherent ( not mind the lies ). Its like being in a room full of people demanding that you explain yourself, you dont comply, people losing their patience, others shaking their heads in disbelief, and even with Anart saying that he is in the end of his rope, he did not tried to directly defend himself , just indirectly kept on trying to get our attention to the Annonymous websites.

Jesus christ one thing is read about it (COINTELPRO) happening in Adventures with Cassiopaea, another very differently is seeing this happen in real time. Just spechless.

I noticed this too. Seems like the cool head of a professional of some sort. It even occurred to me that 1) Someone else is writing the JakeSully script, or 2) the picture must be big enough that no one's confidence in remaining hidden has really been shaken yet, or 3) some someones are really wasting their brain-power just playing a large scale "game" with some interesting stakes.

I don't see evidence that anything is being blown out of proportion either. There must be a reason for the continuing information asymmetry.

Either way, "the game's afoot, Watson!" :D

 

[Psalehesost]

Some thoughts.

Looking at what Jake/etc. wrote of his plans for Anonymous, with an envisioned system of "points" and so forth, it looks to me like he acts and thinks as if it's all a game - quite literally seeking to make it all a game - unable to genuinely address or understand anything seriously.

I think, from reading all this including his response, that one can be fairly sure his mind is not quite working - that at the very least he's a baked noodle. What Lobaczewski wrote in Ponerology about subconscious selection and substitution of data comes to mind - that perhaps he is literally unable to conceive of the actual situation because his mind has gradually become unable to allow it; instead it will replace data, suppress anything leading to or in itself uncomfortable, and so allow the conclusions he would prefer to arise. As described, when this has gone the farthest, it is no longer completely subconscious - it is then a process of half-consciously cooking up lies to swallow that one then believes. And this in turn turns the brain even further into mush. And so the person has finally become a "half-wit" (both morally and intellectually), and is likely to remain that way since accurate thinking is needed to genuinely deal with and get out of such a state.

Apart from that - a self-deluding state of inability to think - a narcissism at the least seems very clear in the way he has been engaging when all we now know is put together.

As for the question of whether he's simply bonkers or paid, it is also possible that it's both - the way his mind seems to be working, I'm sure he would be capable of rationalizing such a situation to himself and see himself as a magnificent leader/teacher, or perhaps even more than that - someone here to save all these groups he's involved with?