Jeff Rense EXPOSED!!

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Superman Returns: WING TV repels Pathological Pirates AKA Rense & Co

icomeinpeace said:
just a big waste of time all this parody BS both you two sites need to stick to real issues and drop this childish BS
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IMHO, I think the above statement is a serious distortion of reality. Anyone just logging on here and reading something like this would be tempted to get an impression in contradiction with the facts.

And the facts are that it is anything BUT a waste of time to uncover manipulators posing as truth seekers. It is anything BUT childish to question the motives of those who influence thousands if not millions of people.

The facts are that real issues have been distorted, and before people can BEGIN to think about them in any constructive manner, the distortion factor needs to be addressed. Without addressing the noise passing off as information there ARE no real issues, just noise with a lot of trimmings.

In that sense, presenting attempts at rooting out influences that seriously undermine the public's capacity to address the truth, as childish/parody BS just happens to undermine sincere attempts to clear the information channels OF BS.

Presenting, furthermore, that two sites are "going at it" from a standpoint of alleged neutrality to allegedly give credence to an allegedly sincere view, does nothing but help the disinformants who would rather come off as being "childish" (which is compatible with their profane image) than as organized saboteurs of the public's capacity to get to the bottom of serious issues.
 
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Well put, EsoQuest.
Since your first post, 'icomeinpeace', you have tried to get us to stop covering this issue. Why is that? It has become very clear that not only do you not find what these people have done to be 'wrong' in any way, but you support it and want it dropped.

When one goes looking for truth, that means looking for all truth - big and small.

Aside from the fact that your lack of concern over what these people are doing indicates that your own state of mind may not be very far from theirs, I find your inability to grasp the big picture here rather alarming. I believe your time would be better spent on some other forum.
 
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icomeinpeace said:
why do you treat me like poop.... im just being part of the conversation
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You forgot the little sad face :( to draw a tear or two from hapless surfers. Why do I get the impression that you are being theatrical? Is such theater designed to convey an image? Before you consider me over aggressive here, just let me say that when you reply to a post questioning you with a statement that you are being "treated like poop", you are presenting that questioning you is mistreating you.

And I just don't like to think that anyone in their right mind would take you seriously here. If your previous posted had a bit of a manipulative air, this one pretty much removes all doubt. So after you have prepared the audience with the impression that you are some kind of poor puppy beaten down by the evil heartless forum members, THEN you post your "caselaw".

So just in case anyone gets sidetracked here by this pleading to stop pooping on you (and I say "practice what you preach" to that), I would just like to suggest readers go back up some posts, and read Lisa's version of what constitutes the law here.

The difference is that Lisa's version has legal definitions of the terms discussed, and yours provides examples that are, IMHO, misleading.
 
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I deleted several of his recent posts as he has shown his agenda - to dilute the discussion with a nonsense. He will probably return, under some other nickname.
Yesterday I was still trying to be civil and asked him to restrict himself to one post per day. He did not listen. Well, he (or "it") is gone.
What a zoo we are dealing with! Or, in this case, with "artifficial intelligence"....
 
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EQ said:
And yes, the attacks are strongest on women, even though gender does not really carry over electronically. This seems to me to be the mark of a coward bully targeting what they think are weaker prey. And men who are pornographically oriented in such a blatant manner most likely have serious manhood issues.
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As ya'll have seen, the crackhead gang have a very twisted way of looking at the world.

I received an email from Roxdog that was just totally bizarre.

First of all, he made a HUGE thing about Babel magazine - the artsy underground rag published by Victor and Lisa - a small percentage of which was devoted to erotica and pieces by aspiring writers of all sorts. The guy just practically jumps up and down with fiendish glee to be able to say "oh, GAWD, they published and/or wrote about ... shudder... masturbation... horrors... oral sex.... be still my heart ... abortions... oh my gawd, my gawd, my gawd..." and so on.

Like I'm supposed to care?

I mean, I don't read stuff like that, but many do when they are young. Probably everybody has and does and will. It's just life. So what's the big deal here?

The only thing I can think of is that this is supposed to rile up the repressed, suppressed, and depressed puritanical attitudes of - dare I say it? - hard-core conservatives.

Of which I ain't one.

Sorry guys, it doesn't offend me in the least.

Heck, if you guys were in France you'd probably have heart attacks with images of naked women advertising cellulite products in pharmacies, the naked women in fashion magazines and even mail order clothing catalogs (!!) and on billboards advertising perfumes, etc. They'd probably also have heart failure at the supermarket advertising that shows dead rabbits, and the fact that chickens in the market (and the rabbits) quite often come with heads still attached and eyes looking at you through the glass wall of the cooler.

More than anything, however, the actions of this gang, their language, their behavior, their whole shtick, is waht I consider to be TRULY pornographic in the spiritual sense. They remind me of those sick monks in the movie "The Name of the Rose," who get off on pain and suffering and the purer and more innocent the object of their torment, the more they liked it.

Just because someone publishes and/or writes or paints, or writes poetry, about what used to be considered avant garde things, but is apparently now considered "leftist corruption", doesn't say a thing about their own moral character. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm nuts because I experiment with channeling and think that there is a high probability that ultraterrestrials call the shots on this planet.

These guys remind me of really twisted psychopaths who wear the cloak of self-righteousness and constantly point the finger at others who are perfectly human and aren't ashamed to admit it, to BE it.

In short, they are among the most total hypocrites I've ever seen.
 
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ark said:
He will probably return, under some other nickname.
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"It", and the others, would gonna have to elude plenty of participants to stablish somethign. On this sence, we have numbers :)
And increasing: New participants have joined, like John White, on of the most, if not the most, active participant at Icke's forum. Guess whos posting there as if being at home: Tiger-Lilly, none the less. hehe artificial intelligence indeed.

I have noticed they also come waving the flag of curiosity, as if that were a secure ticket for their stablishment. Well that is precisely the problem with their introduction: Curiosity is not a safe ticket. It is actually a risk the authentic curious most take to satisfy a very legal and deep need of the soul. The ones who have come here trying to hide behind the flag of curiosity, are not deep souls.
The curiosity of the artificial intelligence is called illness.
This acts precisely as 'icomeinpeace' nick: It all would be ok with 'it', except 'it' ignores what is peace and tryes to hide behind the concept... betraying the concept.
Thus giving their selfs, like what they are: Automats.
 
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I would like to point out that "roxdog" continues to deny that he has done anything wrong. In fact, he has stated on an internet forum that I have been 100% wrong in my statements about him.
Well, the policeman who left a little while ago was carrying in his hand a printout of two of "Roxdog's" artistic creations.

The first is the one described by Michael Langston in his previous statement on this forum which has the word "*ssslut" across my face with lewd text above it.
the second is a roxdog masterpiece showing both Victor Thorn and myself and Roxdog has added some extra images onto this picture. Most notably is the sex toy (d*ldo) shown where my mouth is.
I am gathering other "artistic renderings" created by Roxdog.

I am NOT messing around.

Lisa Guliani
 
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Upon listening to these broadcasts I instantly knew that it was mindless garbage. It couldn't have been any more obvious. I could only conclude that whoever is behind all of this garbage are desperate men who seem to be panicking at the moment and they are frustrated that they can't come up with anything of substance. So in their intense desperation the last resort of these scoundrels is sexism, which is basically the same thing as racism. The black gangsta wanabe schtick of (cracker) sonny crack is just evidence of his true racist leanings and reflects the mentality of those mega media "boses" who really own him. After listening to sonny's "shockjock" nonsense I got the distinct impression that there was no real emotion in him at all, almost as if he was hired to do all of this and he was just mechanically going through the motions. Synchronistically with all this is the recent discussions about Rense's love for Opera which also relates to sonny's wannabe mob mentality that is so obviously displayed in his pathetic style. These jokers are biting with racist bigotry and it will be most interesting to see if they are still laughing when they get bit back by the threatening sharp teeth of the legal system...the biggest meanest gang of them all.
 
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Not to mention, the "big players" in all this (Rense and co.) PROBABLY think that they can continue on as always, because people like the RR gang are stupid enough to BE lackeys. That way the big guns only have to get thier hands dirty by proxy.

You'd think the RR gang would've figured that out by now...Unless the threads go deeper, in which case we'll find those out too.

Don
 
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Just so everybody knows, I never wrote one piece for Babel Magazine regarding abortion, oral sex, or masturbation.
Several pieces I wrote for Babel were comedic stories. I have a very sarcastic humor. These stories dealt with recollections of my years at CONVENT SCHOOL. I wrote two or three comedic pieces about how weird I act when I try to "diet" and have to go food shopping with all the temptation that goes along with it. I wrote a few poems (nothing that will ever outlive me) and some other short stories, none of them porno. I wrote a sad piece about a guy I used to date as a teenager who used to self-mutilate and how it impacted me. I wrote another fiction piece dealing with loss of virginity. Another about the time Victor tried to get me to bleach my hair blond, the insanity that followed when my hair turned the color of cat-pee 8 boxes later, how I was cracking my head on the sink in panic with a head full of HAY...and how Thorn almost ended up knowing what it feels like to wear green hair after that fiasco. I wrote one piece about what it was like growing up as the daughter of a funeral director, living with DEATH every day.

I wrote ONE piece in which I totally made fun of a few OTHER Babel writers who only submitted erotica. I hated this stuff. That's all they ever wrote about. I finally got to a point where I wrote a piece, basically a sarcastic humorous essay calling for them to submit something ELSE other than the same-ole same-ole hump-the-dresser crapola. A lot of people liked that essay. I liked it too.

It's interesting how the psychos try to pin some sort of label on me as if I used to write porn, when I did not.
As I've stated before, which Laura posted not too long ago on this forum, Babel magazine was similar to the 'zines of the 60s and 70s. It had a wide variety of material from different genres, some of the material was of a sexual nature, but most was NOT.

I did NOT write the kinds of stories the crackheads would like everyone to believe. Yes, a few writers did.
I didn't personally care for that material and I did not select the content. Victor DID. It was his magazine. He created it before he knew me. I began submitting material in August or September 2001, well after he had already established Babel.
I wrote my own stories, proofread, typed manuscripts for some of the other writers, sometimes picked out photos for the layout, and did all the marketing for that publication, inclouding dealing with all the book reviewers for our hard copy anthologies.
That's what I did for Babel. It was a raging success when we decided to end it and begin something fresh and new: WING TV. Babel was fun, but WING is much more important to us and it has a purpose other than to entertain or be "artsy". We want to inform and ignite independent thinking. They like to call us "agent provocateurs", but let's be accurate:

We're THOUGHT PROVOCATEURS. We try like hell to provoke people to THINK.

So charge me with that and I happily plead guilty.

Lisa
 
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Lisa - you're charged and found guilty! (of being a thought provocateur)

People who cannot defend their own actions and behavior, and who cannot put forth logical, factual defenses against your charges of CoIntelPro and subterfuge resort to slander and defamation.

Quite frankly, what you and Victor did and didn't do years ago has very little to do with the issue at hand today - especially considering that what you did is all on record and not even vaguely controversial (in my humble opinion).

You reveal the truth about these liars - they freak and send in their low life minions - it's all just more proof that what you said in the first place was very likely the truth.

We all learn from it - so thanks.
 
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Thank you and I'm glad you checked out the show. Today's show has some good parallels to what is going on in this situation.
We interviewed Peter Rost, who used to be a somebody at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals and ended up blowing the whistle on them. I think he is currently embroiled in two lawsuits over this. anyway, he was "invited" to post blog commentary on the Huffington Post. Kinda like I was "invited" to post on Revere's forum initially when they "liked" us.
Rost discovered that a 'persistent and hostile" individual was focusing on his blogs and also that the reader favorites section of the site was being rigged. He investigated and discovered that one of Arianna's staff was the TROLL.
He blew the whistle on the Huffington Post and guess what happened?
They banned him. They refused to let him write more blogs. They removed all the reader comments that disagreed with Arianna's lying and lame attempt to explain all this away.

Interestingly enough, the Huffington Post has a controversial past, where they faked a blog, saying George Clooney submitted it to them, when all they'd done was paste excerpts from articles written about him or interviews he gave with other people or something like that.
Clooney made them retract it and he called Arianna "purposely misleading".

Even more interesting is the fact that the Huffington Post has ties to PFIZER, the company Rost used to work for and who he blew the whistle on. Anybody starting to connect some dots here?
Even MORE interesting is that Rost has been getting monitored by the RENDON GROUP, the Pentagon's propaganda spinmeister machine. Very interesting.
You can find parallels in what is happening to Rost with what has been happening in the alternative media with Rense, Jones and the Revere psychos.
I think he was set-up..
Anyway, it is an interesting look at how the alternative media mirrors the bigger boys in these little info headgames.

Lisa..:-)
 
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Please take a look at Roxdog's posts on commander Pod, Phil Jayhan's forum (Letsroll911.org).
Note Phil Jayhan's response and that of others.
These psychos are all linked together.
Phaylon TV >REVERE>LetsRoll911>JACK BLOOD>ALEX JONES>GCN>RENSE>RUPPERT
Somewhere in this mess is 911truth.org and then all the various fake 9-11 sites and phony researchers.
Let's not forget the disinfo crew at the OTHER network, too.
Greg Szymanski should not be excluded from this party.

Here's the thread on Commander Pod's site. If he deletes it, just let me know. I have it on my hard drive.
Nowadays, if you don't save it, it didn't happen.

Wingtv: Spreading Lies And Censoring The Truth
http:(2slashes)letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14379
Please note that this thread contains one of roxdog's altered photos.
The original photo is one Victor Thorn took of me at the PA State Capitol building at a protest. It did not have all that junk Roxdog has shopped onto the sign.
The sign really said: "You work for Us."
 
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Deadline Live forum - The Psychos Begin to turn on Sonny Crack

http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=8930&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&mforum=jackblood
 
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Lisa said:
Deadline Live forum - The Psychos Begin to turn on Sonny Crack

http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=8930&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&mforum=jackblood
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Lol when they call one of their own out on "slander" you know it's gotta be bad :D
 
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