JEFF: Ok, and we're back. Let's see if Keith is on line there from Arizona. Are you there Keith?
KEITH: Yes I am. Yes I am.
JEFF: Thanks for being there. Welcome aboard.
KEITH: I am an expert in demonic energies. I'm aware of the show in question. I appreciate you not naming it. I don't plan to listen to it myself.
JEFF: How are you an expert in demonic energy?
KEITH: My family is extremely psychic and we work with a lot of other psychics and we became experts because we were under a lot of attack and learned how to deal with it.
JEFF: Do you know who's attacking you, is it anything personal or...
KEITH: There's all kinds of psychic attackers, non-physical beings, and there's people to, there are kind of psychic vampires, or just scared (?) or energy drains. But... so we... you know after twenty years of dealing with this it has gotten to the point where we can pretty much call in some powerful beings. Actually one of our psychics is so powerful she can put these things and out, all by herself. Um.. but...
BRAD: She'd better be on call for some of the people...
KEITH: Well, yeah there's a million directions to go with this, one of the things I think the host is trying to do eh... I don't think he's doing this as a ratings grab so much as he's trying to um... explore and I think he's confident, maybe overconfident in himself thinking that it's not going to be a problem... thinking that he can transcend it. I wanna make one other quick point, I don't how you're gonna let me on here, I can tell you a gillion different things but eh.. umm when the Iraq war started, remember the archaeological dig, I think that, France and Germany were doing.
BRAD: mm mm.
KEITH: It seems like they were on a time table, um... Bush and co, to open some kind of gate there, and they did, and let out a lot of demonic energies out at that time because we've seen a real increase...
JEFF: Well, they also oversaw the destruction of a lot of very... If you want to talk about the origins of civilization, very sacred ground...
BRAD: Right.
KEITH: Well, yeah not before the looted them with the particular items they wanted...
JEFF: True.
BRAD: Yeah hahaha.
JEFF: They had it all mapped out, you're right.
BRAD: Yes, yes.
KEITH: Yeah. It is possible to get rid of these demonic beings. It absolutely is. You can put them out of existence but you can also give them the option to go to the light. And, we've seen the realms they're from. They just basically want to wreck everything they possibly can. And we think our current administration has a lot of (inaudible) energies around them.
JEFF: Now that's a good... that's a good summation, they do wanna cau... they're hell raisers, that's what they are.
KEITH: Yeah.
a person as of yet not introduced (25m10s): Yeah.
BRAD: They're disrupted discarnates, but again the point we're making of course eh.. You've learned how to protect yourself. We're concerned about all the vulnerable people out there, who entering this without any type of protection.
JEFF: 99.5 percent yeah. Yeah none.
KEITH: Yeah especially with all the kinds of SSRI's and etcetera, that people are on.
JEFF: Anything of a chemical nature that alters your consciousness state, makes you double or triple vulnerable. It just opens the door wider.
KEITH: Yeah, meth and amphetamines would be the worst that I've seen. That's like a gateway, like the Ouija board, that's like a direct gateway to this.
JEFF: mm mm.
BRAD: Well, it can be.
JEFF: What would your guidance be for people be who may be aware of this and have an option to listen in to the program and participate. Even, now keep in mind, even if one doesn't actively participate, the subliminal suggestions going on here, inadvertent and otherwise, certainly could have an impact on people who think they're just going to be a passive observer.
KEITH: Yeah. Well, the key I found was to raise my consciousness. You know I had to because I was under so much attack. It's sorta like you're, you know, being hit enough times you build up stronger muscles I guess, in a way. Psychic muscles. So in a way it was beneficial I guess...
JEFF: Well you are lucky. There's a positive side to what you went through. Did you know Keith, some years ago they made a, and it's probably still available, a child's version of the Ouija board. A child's version! This is.. you know, six, eight, nine, ten year old kids.
BRAD: Give your kid it at Christmas time.
KEITH: Well kids are especially vulnerable, you know...
BRAD: Absolutely.
KEITH: I wanted to respond to your question about what can we do, and what I found... You know I'm not in any particular religion or... if some prophetiser comes to my door I tell them: No I believe in reincarnation and flying saucers, you know hahaha. But what we can do is call in very high beings. And, you know, you need to meditate, and you need to eh open your third eye from the position of neutrality. That's the hardest thing, as to go into a state of neutral to be able to see them...
JEFF: Well, especially most people don't even know that.
KEITH: ...and deal with them. My problem was I kept trying to do something but it's not about trying.
JEFF: True.
BRAD: But so many people do not have this level of awareness, and they're going to be totally unprepared.
JEFF: I know, it's 99 percent, Keith, that don't have a clue.
KEITH: I agree with you guys a 100 percent. I'm not gonna listen to this show, I think it has the potential for a lot of damage, I think it's a little bit of arrogance on the part of this host.
JEFF: And we'll never know that damage. Ah, you know, arrogance, it's certainly irresponsible because if the host and producers don't know, they sure as hell know now, because what we're doing here will get to them immediately.
KEITH: I finally, finally totally conquered this. I had a series of five lucid dreams in a row where I was attacked by these beings. Every single time I realized it was a dream, woke up, um, after confronting the entities, and then we went in trance with two other psychics, a group of three of us together is like ten times as powerful as one, and looked out and saw it was exactly what I thought it was, and ever since then I've been pretty much immune.
BRAD: Well, god bless you and stay that way.
JEFF: Alright, very good.
KEITH: And thanks for the greatest website there is period.
JEFF: Well, thank you Keith, appreciate that. Thanks a lot.
KEITH: Ok, thanks very much.
BRAD: Thanks for calling Keith.
JEFF: Ok if y'all wanna call in and add you two cents, 800-2599231. We've got a break coming up here momentarily, and we'll be right back after this.