Jordan Peterson: Gender Pronouns and Free Speech War
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I think your post raises a lot of interesting questions about the nature of karma. Forth density service to self beings cannot just do you “anything” to others, as is spoken about in The Wave. You have to be be able to receive and assent to their “bidding” process. Gaps in your own knowledge and awareness are how STS influence and program people, even those who consciously choose not to align with them.
JBP is on his way towards service to others I think, but it looks like there’s still a lot of lessons for him to learn.
The C’s have spoken about there being different levels of prioritization of life lessons. I think JBP’s primary one is to study and learn about totalitarianism and ponerology, with perhaps fighting it consistently on the side of good being the secondary priority.
Many people have attempted to give him the book Ponerology to read. He has several copies of it. I think on some level he is avoiding it because that knowledge would in someways interrupt his lesson plan. Or, perhaps the equivalent amount of conscious energy needed to read that book and gain that knowledge was equal to the preparation he should’ve done beforehand to avoid his programming and his subversion.
Even if he doesn’t completely fulfill his secondary karmic lesson about fighting totalitarianism, he is fulfilling his primary lesson about learning about it, with front-row seats from the perspective of the dupes he has written and lectured about so much.
I guess I’m trying to say we don’t need to feel too sorry for him. From the perspective of his higher self he is having the time of his life learning his primary karmic lesson. Save the pity for the victims of Zionist geopolitics, IMO.
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His fundamental being presupposes the essential decency of the west, in its primacy and agency. Although I do concede that I never saw his anti Iran rhetoric to reach such bizarre proportions coming. I don't give 4d STS all the credit for him turning out like this. You have to "own" your mistakes in this life, and it's a heavy load he's got now.
Just goes to show that however "great" you are, you've got to keep watering and nurturing that good part of yourself, it can wither and die if left unattended, so yes 4d STS can and will try to turn good souls against the light of truth and being. For every Roger Waters there is a Bono. But it's those fundamental assumptions about the primacy of the western system that seems to be the common thread in such people, and it's from there that they fall away into the realms of the obscene in their rhetoric and observations. I can't stand listening to Peterson now, which is sad for sure, and I cannot abide U2's music either because of that unctious prat Bono.
So yeah, if they want to throw it all at you to program you, they can and most probably will at some point. If anything it provides an added incentive to keep constantly working on your knowledge/being and always stay vigilant and observant too.
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I just wanted to add, that these are very unstable times. You have US/UK/Israel, Russia, China, Iran, it's all brewing up to something, how tough we cannot tell. But even in the face of all this evil and suffering, we still must look after ourselves properly in our daily lives. We have to truly love ourselves and those near and dear to us, and think and act accordingly. If we do that, then I think we'll have spent our time on this mad 3d realm well and wisely. Then, and only then, we'll stand a chance of becoming part of the "reality of the future".
What is interesting to me is that he now goes around saying that this or other group are psychopaths, or pathologicals. He did read PolPon and so I suspect that misrepresenting those terms and definitions is part of his new "mission", so to speak, though inadvertedly to him.
I really like this question.
My understanding at the moment is that the battle no matter what, is fought thru us as the Cs say. Every minute, every hour, and every day. After all, isn’t eternal vigilance a burden of a warrior as the Don Juan teaching say?
The C’s would add eternal vigilance and a network are the key.
I always tell myself because of the yin and yang effect, for every Jordan Petersen there is a Tucker Carlson.
Probably only those who have really strong, emotionally-charged beliefs about something, and who have no awareness of the possibility of being targeted in that way. Then they can hijack that belief and run it off the rails. That kind of thing is done to a lot of people by the media etc.
I've been listening to Daryl Coopers Fear and Loathing in New Jerusalem and he was talking about a young Zionist who's letters to his parents highlighted his change to taking up a more extreme and radical view towards Zionism and the Arabs. You could almost see the ideological possession happening in real time as Cooper read the progression of letters. His hatred of the Arabs gaining more traction, disdain for being pitied as a Jew rather than being feared or hated, which he preferred. These emotional beliefs left no room to understand the Arabs as anything other than his enemy and standing in the way of the Zionists goal of an Israeli State. It was time to "Give em hell..." When I read Peterson's article, I received similar impressions. He fears the truth of the matter and instead has thrown his lot in with the Zionists and is now swept up in the mob mentality and fervour. Iran is this monolithic 'other', the Arab, the enemy, an evil State from his point of view, looking to undermine the great bastion of hope that is the Zionist dream Western civilization.
Yes, it's probably not much different than "normal" brainwashing by the media. If you are somewhat aware of that you can block it.
Thing is, I can easily imagine myself making similar arguments as JP. All you need is a few completely false premises that form part of a core in your belief structure, then out comes the drivel. So whoever "programmed" JP, they just needed to reinforce a few neocon beliefs that were already latent, such as that Muslims are out to conquer the whole world as opposed to the enlightened west, Jews are special and can't do no wrong and in fact represent what's best about the West etc. Then he naturally surrounds himself with other neocons like Shapiro and gang, who reinforce all that in their little clique, et voilà, JP the retarded edition is born.
But frankly it doesn't matter, he had a huge capital, but it's all gone now and nobody takes him seriously anymore. He is more or less sidelined from the conversation and, sadly, has become a lolcow.
Good question TC. I would say no. There must be some hook, some weakness they can use to gather a foot hold.
And paramount to that, would be awareness. Awareness that if you are famous and in the public eye, there will be those that will want to silence you, or take you out, or make you look like a dangerous crackpot.
Without that awareness, you are pretty much at the mercy of the system. IMO
And this is the perfect example of who you choose in your inner circle. If we start to experience negative thoughts ( well more than normal) we have such a support system in this forum that we should be flogged if we strayed too far off centre.
I adore every single person in my family but I have to say they are not in my inner circle. I have taken quite some time accepting this but all it amounts to is respecting their free will. When I think of JP's circle of people, Hells bells I cringe.
And here's the biggest problem. And all of us here know it. 'Those' that want to silence you... Because JP had two or three years there where he was smeared and insulted and challenged every day. He held his own and fought it and usually won. He knew all about those who wanted to silence him.
But it's the unseen forces. As Paul said:
And people just don't take this literally. Peterson himself is a wannabe bible academic and lecturer, but it made no difference. Push him on metaphysics and he can't give a straight answer to anything.
Peterson has a network of followers, but he doesn't have a network of 'Petersons' telling him to clean his hyperdimensional room.