Jordan Peterson: Gender Pronouns and Free Speech War

He also fails to mention that his studies showed that women score much higher than men in Agreeableness and Empathy and much lower than men in Assertiveness, so the female in the interview above might indeed be unintelligent and has drunk the woke cool-aid, but her first reaction might be to feel sorry for the grotesque figure in front of her, and she doesn't want to hurt its feelings or insult it in some way while its sure death in Muslim countries hangs above its head.
Besides, those kind of on the spot interviews that prove that "Americans are idiots" or something.. are never truly a good way to measure intelligence level. If anyone, no matter how well read they may be, are confronted with an on the spot question that will be viewed by a lot of people, the pressure of that situation gets to you and your thinking becomes skewed.

It's extremely telling that he'd use both a study and a video of this kind to try to make a point. That is a sure sign of someone looking for "evidence" to suit his theory. Interestingly enough, despite being the, once, champion of people being individuals, he took one video of a particular individual in a specific situation to make a generalized point about an entire gender.. it's just bad science.
 
A thread on the Jewish origins of the LGBTQ movement as it's known in the West. It's not exhaustive, as it's missing people like Judith Butler, who wrote Gender Trouble, which accelerated the gender studies push in Western Universities.

That reminded me of a video I watched a while ago, which was asking basically, what books were burned in Germany and it was not as it has been portrayed. There was a huge movement in the pre war years that included all the things we are seeing now. Homosexuality, Transgenderism, sex reassignment surgeries etc. So they say that the book burnings were really about destroying all the things connected to that type of research and behavior.

So there really is nothing new under the sun.

 
White genocide is not the agenda. I think it's a classic form of bringing about revolutions. First comes demoralization, then destabilization, and finally revolution. They teach us to hate and reject our own countries. The solution offered is a union independent of countries or national identities. In short, a form of world government. Where we are all one ''happy family'', only ''nazis'' would want to reject.

The Great Reset agenda talks openly about how breaking away from nationalism is necessary to create a better and unified world. In fact, it is simply a vulgar power grab.

Whites are the main target because they assume they will offer the most resistance since many of them probably do not want to give up the sovereignty of their countries. Hence the demonization of nationalists and patriots.

I think we are now halfway into their plan. That said. I don't think they're going to succeed. But they will set the world on fire.

I'm still not so sure about this. It pops into my head from time to time. The game has changed in the intervening years since this post. World government via the Great Reset no longer is an option. Russia did not fall, Iran is refusing to take Israel's bait and is waiting for them to make a mistake, and China is basically untouched. So what's the Empire going to do? Revolution is still an option on the table, a sort of Great Reset within West.

Revolutions historically speaking can turn demonic, in the sense that the turn into threshing machines of human populations. As you say, demoralization, then destabilization, and finally revolution, yes - but the revolution can entail mass murder, and that includes internal persecution of specific scapegoats. To my eye, if the West continues on the nihilist path its on currently, developing into a fully ponerized regime, there's only one target that seems likely to fulfill that role of scapegoat - white heterosexual males. Maybe anti-vaxxers, but I think they're in second place currently. That may change if we get a new plandemic.

We've already passed the demoralization phase with the roll-out of the woke agenda a while ago. So I'd say we're in the midst of the destabilization phase with the mass increase of illegal immigrants, the ruination of infrastructure, suppression of wages and increases in rent, drugs crises, the destruction of culture, the mutilation of children, corruption of elite, mistrust in institutions, mass money printing, and killing of an estimated 17 million worldwide from the jabs. Etc.

The knife attacks in the UK, the riots, and the crackdown by Starmer - are they a test-run for the revolution phase? Maybe it's just more evidence of the strategy of tension at play, and not the planned lead-up to a true revolution with the white hetero men as targets. One thing thats clear is that many whites are now offering resistance, as you mentioned - though many are doing so 'right on cue'.

A big issue with the PTB fomenting an internal revolution in the West is that the Empire would likely become unable to pursue its foreign policy objectives amidst the chaos. And I think that is actually a huge block on the PTB pulling the trigger on the revolution phase. The C's did say that immigration was, in America at least, mostly a power play to steal elections, and not the setup for increasing the clash of civilizations. So maybe the sort of bloody revolution I'm thinking of isn't in the cards.

It's kinda like what the C's said about there being one group of the cabal who is advocating for global economic collapse, but this group is not in the ascendant, so that plan is dormant. Maybe it's the same for woke revolution - there's one group whose pushing for it, but that group not in the ascendant.

Thinking about it a bit more, there is another category for internal scapegoat, and that's the illegal immigrant. What will happen if Kamal Harris actually wins the election with the help of her millions of brand new voters? Reactionary snapback?

Anyways, I read this warning by Paul Craig Roberts the other day, tho, and part of me still considers it as a real probability:

My advice to young white heterosexual males is to get out of America while you still can. A holocaust is coming your way. You are demonized and reduced to second class citizenship. You can be discriminated against in university admissions, employment and promotion. You are not allowed to defend your self from racist charges, because white self-defense is considered racist, as proof of racism. The position of a white gentile heterosexual male American today is the same as that of a Jew in Nazi Germany and a Palestinian in Gaza.

Just don't tell JP that last part.
 
Anyways, I read this warning by Paul Craig Roberts the other day, tho, and part of me still considers it as a real probability:


Just don't tell JP that last part.

This calls my attention, since yesterday the Russian Government enabled to provide aid to those who do not accept destructive neo-liberal attitudes in their countries that contradict traditional values:

Russia President Putin signed a decree on providing humanitarian support to people who share traditional Russian spiritual and moral values.

Foreigners and stateless persons will be able to receive a temporary residence permit in the Russian Federation in addition to quotas and without confirmation of proficiency in Russian if they want to move because their countries are pursuing "policies that impose destructive neoliberal ideological attitudes."

The government is expected to approve a list of countries imposing such an ideology.





Putin knows what's coming (?)
 
Peterson's latest screed in the UK Daily Telegraph is a new low for him. Highlighted text is the key points.


The West’s true enemy is clear. We must strike now before it’s too late​

No foreign nation should be enabled to infiltrate our societies to destabilise and destroy us. Here are three ways to fight back

When your enemies publicly declare that they want to kill you, it might be a good idea to listen.

There is one regime in particular which has done the work of identifying itself as such an enemy.

The Islamic Republic of Iran and its terrorist proxies have unequivocally declared themselves devoted to the destruction of the West. Again and again, their intentions have been clearly stated: first to destroy Israel and then to move against their true enemy, America, and the rest of the West. There is no need to accept our claims about the worldview and plans of this regime; their own people and members of the Iranian diaspora speak to that bravely and with moral clarity.

The Islamic Republic is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, distributing massive sums of money to Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and more. Their neighbouring Arab and Muslim states have for years been moving to strengthen relations with Israel, concerned as they are about the influence of the Iranian regime’s radical and oppressive views.

This move towards normalisation and cooperation culminated in recent years in the Abraham Accords, the transformative peace agreement which establishes an influential and productive bloc of economic partnership in the Middle East and serves to stabilise regional and world security.

Why world security? Because the ambitions of the Islamic Republic are by no means limited to their corner of the world. Americans along with other inhabitants of the free democracies need to understand what Arab and Muslim nations have been trying to tell us for years: the Islamic Republic will stop at nothing to attain their goals of disruption, subversion, and domination. To this end, we have seen global coordination on the propaganda front at a shocking level between the foreign actors whose interests are currently aligned in a fundamentally anti-Western manner. The Islamic Republic is directly coordinating with Russia and China to back Hamas. They are also working with Russia to evade American sanctions, provide support to the Houthis, and deliver military equipment to Hezbollah.

In concert with such activity, the Islamic Republic is actively and effectively sowing chaos and discord in America and elsewhere. If Israel is a thorn in the side of the mad mullahs of Tehran, America is a gigantic redwood whose rootedness in the tradition of human rights and freedoms remains the greatest obstacle to the dominion of radical Islamist ideology. Iran does not have the military prowess or might to wage war directly with America and her allies. Their goal, instead, is to destabilise us from within, and they make clever use of the technologies and freedoms that typify the West to do so.

Aiming for maximum chaos, they fuel the flames on both sides. On the right, they hack the Republican presidential campaign. On the Left, they fund protestors and influencers who shout, “Death to America” and “We Are Hamas,” all too often without understanding whose interests they are genuinely furthering. Islamic Republic operatives have attacked Western infrastructure, seeking to destroy our energy, water, and healthcare systems using the novel tactics of cyberwarfare.

They collaborate with domestic criminal networks to threaten their critics on American and European soil. Far and away their most effective strategy, however, is the PSYOPs campaigns waged through our ubiquitous social media platforms. Their manipulations are deployed covertly, aided by social media anonymity and weaponised through secret algorithms that profit off outrage, hate, and polarisation. The Islamic Republic’s plan to radicalise the West on social media has enjoyed particularly stunning success with more youthful citizens.

Young people who get their news primarily through TikTok hold opinions far outside the norm when it comes to America, Israel, and Jews. American women between the ages of 18-34 have an unfavourable view of America of more than 50% above the norm. Their ideas about Israel and Jews follow suit
. Members of this demographic rely on TikTok to a much more extreme degree than others.

The dire effects this produces are no mere accident: Iran, partnering with Russia, and China, has been waging a covert war through platforms such as TikTok to weaponise antisemitism and to destabilise America and the West – not least through promulgation of the victim/oppressor narrative which holds that every human and institutional relationship is governed by power alone.

There is always a place for peaceful protest and criticism of any nation or leader. However, it is clear that the Western pro-Palestinian movement’s messaging apparatus – and much of its momentum – has been fomented, supported and echoed by the Islamic Republic, not least through cyberwarfare, funding, and PSYOPs campaigns such as those led by the Singham network. If a glowing neon arrow is required to connect the dots, here is Ayatollah Khamenei himself directly tweeting his support of American protestors. There is virtually nothing more damning that could be said about such campus activity.

The slogans being shouted by those who barricade and blockade universities, bridges and streets are those of the Islamic Republic and its terror proxies. When buildings, monuments, and homes are defaced, the clichés spray-painted so enthusiastically and self-righteously are those of the Islamic Republic and its terror proxies.

Mass rape and hostage torture are alternately denied and celebrated, acts of self-immolation and “revolutionary suicide” depathologised and glorified as political tactics, and cries of “Intifada, intifada, coming to America” and “Gas the Jews” ring through encampments and marches.


Violent revolutionary rhetoric such as, “You don’t get to choose how we resist,” or, “By any means necessary,” does not square with American values, rules of engagement, or the admirable, courageous, and time-honoured traditions of the American Civil Rights movement. The strategies and objectives that accompany and underlie the Islamic Republic’s propaganda and covert actions could not be more incompatible with those of any culture that truly values the rights of women and minorities, free expression and vigorous debate, and liberty of faith.

Unlike everyone under the Islamic Republic of Iran, Americans and those in the West are entitled to free speech – even entitled to hate who they wish to hate. One of the most profound manifestations of such rights is the opportunity and responsibility to evaluate and criticise the ideas and actions of others – including self-declared enemies – and identify those offensives designed to undermine the very rights that allow us to think and speak freely in the first place. No foreign nation should be granted the opportunity to infiltrate the West through nefarious means to destabilise and destroy us. Nonetheless: the Islamic Republic continues to do precisely that. Such strains of subversive and toxic influence must be identified, repudiated, and eliminated.

Here are three concrete suggestions toward such an end:
  • Westerners who further the aims of the Islamic Republic by breaking the law – making true threats, defacing property, or assaulting citizens or law enforcement – should be arrested with minimal possible force and prosecuted.
  • Face coverings should be illegal when worn to intimidate, menace, or terrorise. They allow agitators to hide in order to indulge their worst instincts. And in anonymising their wearers, face coverings insulate them from any consequences in the public square and preclude legitimate engagement within the free marketplace of ideas. Masks are a hallmark of the KKK, not of peaceful protestors.
  • Post-partisan legislation like America’s PATA – which calls for increased transparency in our social media platforms while still protecting freedom of speech – must be formulated and passed.
We have entered a time of massively accelerating change, hurtling headlong through the unknown. We are exploring new and old modes of thinking – some courageous, some horrifying, some promising. Despite broad consensus in the West on many issues, we have been entranced into believing that we simply cannot agree on anything. A great number of our systems, institutions, organisations, and corporations profit off this very polarisation. Distrust is high.

With so much hate and paranoia, many find it difficult to determine who the West’s real enemies are. And we have been enticed and encouraged by bad foreign actors and hate-profiteers to believe it’s one another.

However, we have unassailable evidence of the truth right in front of us: the Islamic Regime has declared itself an enemy of the West.

It is high time we take them at their word.
 
Peterson's latest screed in the UK Daily Telegraph is a new low for him. Highlighted text is the key points.

Well, obviously, to anybody observing the actual situation what's really been going on, he's kind of delusional. Except that many of the things he ascribed to Iran basically can be "applied" to Israel itself. Would that be an example of a sort of a projection on JBP's behalf?
 
Peterson's latest screed in the UK Daily Telegraph is a new low for him. Highlighted text is the key points.


His three point plan is useless in the face of the infinite omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of Iran who, together with all the other countries of the world, will stop at nothing to destroy the bastion of morality that is America from within.
 
You know when the Cs said about Peterson:

A: He will come to himself with horror eventually.

I can't remember who in this forum mentioned, or if it was my own idea, that perhaps his horror will come once he is in 5D and contemplates his own life. Because he certainly seems well stuck in that Zionist paradigm of his right now, and if all the horrors displayed in Gaza haven't changed his mind, what will? I hope he does come to his senses sooner than that, but I'm not counting on it.
 
You know when the Cs said about Peterson:



I can't remember who in this forum mentioned, or if it was my own idea, that perhaps his horror will come once he is in 5D and contemplates his own life. Because he certainly seems well stuck in that Zionist paradigm of his right now, and if all the horrors displayed in Gaza haven't changed his mind, what will? I hope he does come to his senses sooner than that, but I'm not counting on it.

To my knowledge everybody comes to themselves in fifth density, when they see their whole life from the perspective of everyone else. Therefore, when the C’s say that he will come to himself eventually with horror I think they were making the distinction that it will be an earthly realization. But I could be wrong.

Jordan Peterson’s support of censorship on social media is a living testament to Gurdjieff’s Law of Seven, that any action initiated but maintained without conscious awareness eventually beings to produce results diametrically opposed to the initial intent.
 
You know when the Cs said about Peterson:



I can't remember who in this forum mentioned, or if it was my own idea, that perhaps his horror will come once he is in 5D and contemplates his own life. Because he certainly seems well stuck in that Zionist paradigm of his right now, and if all the horrors displayed in Gaza haven't changed his mind, what will? I hope he does come to his senses sooner than that, but I'm not counting on it.

I don’t remember anyone else saying it, but that’s what I thought when the C’s said that about him.
 
You know when the Cs said about Peterson:



I can't remember who in this forum mentioned, or if it was my own idea, that perhaps his horror will come once he is in 5D and contemplates his own life. Because he certainly seems well stuck in that Zionist paradigm of his right now, and if all the horrors displayed in Gaza haven't changed his mind, what will? I hope he does come to his senses sooner than that, but I'm not counting on it.

I don’t remember anyone else saying it, but that’s what I thought when the C’s said that about him.

I said it, because I think he's as stubborn as a mule. He's surrounded by Zionists and Biblical researchers like Prager and Shapiro, and I don't think it was just his "programming phase" after his benzo nightmare. This was always in him, it's just been amplified. At the end of the day I'm glad to see him for what he is nowadays, no need to heed him on any subject from now on. We'll all, each of us have to face our dark sides on 5d, but I'm bloody glad I don't have to come to terms with what he has coming. He's a propagandist for rank psychopathy, and he has the suffering of hundreds of thousands just waiting to reveal themselves to him. Personally, I don't know how he sleeps at night. He's notorious for his tearful breakdowns, well, he's got more of them coming, and not too soon.
 
Lord, this is so retarded it's not even wrong. Basically some sort of brain-dead fart.

These are the words of a man who would do and say anything, no matter how utterly absurd, to shield himself from a simple and horrible truth: he has allowed himself to become part of the dark side, because he's terrified of uncomfortable truths. Fear leads to rage, rage leads to...
 
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I said it, because I think he's as stubborn as a mule. He's surrounded by Zionists and Biblical researchers like Prager and Shapiro, and I don't think it was just his "programming phase" after his benzo nightmare. This was always in him, it's just been amplified. At the end of the day I'm glad to see him for what he is nowadays, no need to heed him on any subject from now on. We'll all, each of us have to face our dark sides on 5d, but I'm bloody glad I don't have to come to terms with what he has coming. He's a propagandist for rank psychopathy, and he has the suffering of hundreds of thousands just waiting to reveal themselves to him. Personally, I don't know how he sleeps at night. He's notorious for his tearful breakdowns, well, he's got more of them coming, and not too soon.
Ok, I must have read your comment and that's where I got the idea. I don't get the impression he was always like this though, but right now he is certainly stuck in 'ideological possession', ironically. Or mind programming, as the Cs say. Personally, I do feel both infuriated and sorry for him.
 
Ok, I must have read your comment and that's where I got the idea. I don't get the impression he was always like this though, but right now he is certainly stuck in 'ideological possession', ironically. Or mind programming, as the Cs say. Personally, I do feel both infuriated and sorry for him.

A question for you, but for everyone else also. Although, maybe it's an unfair one given everyone's time here in the group.

Do you think that you could ever be influenced in such a way that you would support a regime who was committing genocide?

Peterson spent most of his adult life teaching courses on ideological possession in order to try to inoculate his students against it, and yet, here he is. C's said he's a 'great soul' which I'm going to assume means that he actually has a soul, or is not an OP.

What does that mean for the rest of us? If one of us inadvertently became famous because we stood for something and went viral, and we were just going around talking sense to people, and 4D STS decided we were causing to many ripples and they needed to co-opt us (me, you, anyone here), could they do it?

Troubling thought. Is it hubris to say, "That wouldn't happen to me", or is it not at all, and simply being a normal, decent person?

If they hadn't been able to program him by nearly killing him to get him into a coma for an extended period, then I guess they would have just killed him. In other words, they knew they could do it and that it would be successful?

They've killed countless others. Was he too good of a tool to just do away with? Can they just program anyone at all?
 

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