Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

Nienna said:
This brings to mind the humongous amount of ammo that was bought up by various US agencies. Could they have seen this coming? Or, were they just getting prepared in case of any kind of 'unrest' occurring?
Probably yes, it seems like no matter the result of the election, the US is moving into a new kind of totalitarianism, with military-like police there to "control" (incite) the chaos.

What if the PTB are he'll bent on just that - chaos? Then there's no logic to it, no reasonableness, no give and take, no comprising, not even much thought to self-preservation or anything like that. A worldwide nuclear war isnt a deterrent, seems that's even "viable" avenue to "consolidating power". So this election is just a big old distraction while they prepare for all out war on all the people of the world that say "no" to this mindset (including the majority of people the US).

I suppose that's the inevitable conclusion to psychopathy when it takes hold.
 
Dr. David Jacobs and Keel, to a degree, have given us insight into the Project. It is to create a society exactly like the 4D alien society, totalitarian, rigidly hierarchical caste system, where one's role is determined by how one is genetically engineered and conditioned, just like in Huxley's Brave New World. At the level of Consortium/Quorum, the representatives that interface more or less directly with the Orion STS collective, this is the general aim and there is little deviation. I don't think 4D cares too much about the details, except in rare cases where they do direct interventions, they leave it up to the minions to implement their archetypal imperial template in a human environment. There is quite a bit of latitude given, as long as the Project moves forward, and those that are further removed from it are free to pursue their own self interest, oblivious to its existence while advancing its aims. From that perspective, politics is almost irrelevant, except that the masters are sometimes revealed through the actions of their lackeys, and in cases where the lackeys are fighting each other, sometimes the haze clears enough for you to see way up the pyramid. Comey is like a mouse caught between two smallish cats, who are subjugated by larger more powerful cats, who are occasionally stirred up by a great big dog...
 
Neil said:
Dr. David Jacobs and Keel, to a degree, have given us insight into the Project. It is to create a society exactly like the 4D alien society, totalitarian, rigidly hierarchical caste system, where one's role is determined by how one is genetically engineered and conditioned, just like in Huxley's Brave New World. At the level of Consortium/Quorum, the representatives that interface more or less directly with the Orion STS collective, this is the general aim and there is little deviation. I don't think 4D cares too much about the details, except in rare cases where they do direct interventions, they leave it up to the minions to implement their archetypal imperial template in a human environment. There is quite a bit of latitude given, as long as the Project moves forward, and those that are further removed from it are free to pursue their own self interest, oblivious to its existence while advancing its aims. From that perspective, politics is almost irrelevant, except that the masters are sometimes revealed through the actions of their lackeys, and in cases where the lackeys are fighting each other, sometimes the haze clears enough for you to see way up the pyramid. Comey is like a mouse caught between two smallish cats, who are subjugated by larger more powerful cats, who are occasionally stirred up by a great big dog...

I'd like to clarify the bold part a bit: in terms of the STS goal, I think you are right, but from our perspective, I don't think politics is irrelevant. Because, as you say, it's about creating a system where we are entirely determined by genetics and programs, so our goal should be to free ourselves from this - and this means understanding precisely how we are programmed so that we can take measures against it by means of personal development. So I think it's very important to observe the show closely so that we can counter it, for us and others, and 'debug the universe'. For example, one tactic they use is obviously 'divide and conquer', and by understanding how exactly this is done, we can avoid falling into various traps (like preferring one candidate over the other or being led to certain false conclusions).

I don't think you were arguing against this, just a clarification that this doesn't mean we should stop paying attention to the details of our reality.
 
On the radio this morning, as polls opened up, they spoke of very high voter turnout. A few here have told me the lines have been longer than in memory too. Damn. I'm pissed. I ain't participating in this controlled circus. But I sure wanna go protest vote damn near everything available. Sorry for the emotional outburst.
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Just thought I would make note of Ark's thoughts on the election: he thinks Killary will win because she is backed by the Consortium - or apparently so. But that if she does win, she will not serve out the entire term either due to disability, death, or impeachment.

I think that Trump winning would be more interesting - like a soap opera - and if Killary wins, I'll sure be disappointed that I didn't get to see that woman get served her comeuppance.
 
Laura said:
Just thought I would make [note] of Ark's thoughts on the election: he thinks Killary will win because she is backed by the Consortium - or apparently so. But that if she does win, she will not serve out the entire term either due to disability, death, or impeachment.

I think that Trump winning would be more interesting - like a soap opera - and if Killary wins, I'll sure be disappointed that I didn't get to see that woman get served her comeuppance.
I believe the globalists / AngloZionist fascists / Khazarian mafia - whatever people want to call them, including 'Illuminati' or just 'PTB' - and even moreso any posited ultra- or extra-terrestrials, lizard-people, '4D entities', 'Consortium' or the like - have two fatal disadvantages. Firstly, they are essentially extreme psychopaths, in terms of any true human reality, and thus thoroughly self-deluded by wishful thinking. Secondly, they can't work directly - not until Disclosure or Revelation or whatever those who believe in them might anticipate - but must work through a cadre of clumsy, deluded human agents, who are also 'successful' psychopaths (and thus also disabled in perhaps significant ways by their own wishful thinking), and therefore prone (we must hope) to fatal errors in the execution of any external direction.

So we *can* and *must* fight, hope and believe in the triumph of good over evil, and perchance win.
 
Laura said:
Just thought I would make not of Ark's thoughts on the election: he thinks Killary will win because she is backed by the Consortium - or apparently so. But that if she does win, she will not serve out the entire term either due to disability, death, or impeachment.

I think that Trump winning would be more interesting - like a soap opera - and if Killary wins, I'll sure be disappointed that I didn't get to see that woman get served her comeuppance.

Those are my thoughts too. If Hillary wins, it's because the Consortium wants it and can rig the election in her favor so as to cause a civil war. If she does fail while in office, the PTB have Kaine waiting to do their bidding once she is no longer of use. If Killary loses the election, it may be because Trump was really the chosen one or he was a surprise and the Consortium will switch gears and do their best to co-opt him. If Trump refuses to go along with the game plan, they have Pence, the Cheny fan, to do so after an assassination or as an influencer.

I must admit there is a part of me that wants Trump to win as Killary has always given me the heebie-jeebies, even more so than her jerk husband. I'd like to see her not reach her life's objective while her brain can still process it. She is clearly the more evil - at least as it looks now.

Well, I didn't vote. Haven't in a long time. Guess we just sit back and observe the show. Arghh.
 
NormaRegula said:
Those are my thoughts too. If Hillary wins, it's because the Consortium wants it and can rig the election in her favor so as to cause a civil war. If she does fail while in office, the PTB have Kaine waiting to do their bidding once she is no longer of use. If Killary loses the election, it may be because Trump was really the chosen one or he was a surprise and the Consortium will switch gears and do their best to co-opt him. If Trump refuses to go along with the game plan, they have Pence, the Cheny fan, to do so after an assassination or as an influencer.

I must admit there is a part of me that wants Trump to win as Killary has always given me the heebie-jeebies, even more so than her jerk husband. I'd like to see her not reach her life's objective while her brain can still process it. She is clearly the more evil - at least as it looks now.

Well, I didn't vote. Haven't in a long time. Guess we just sit back and observe the show. Arghh.

In regards to the US election, up until today I was mostly dumbfounded (with the options) and amused to a degree. I truly did not care who wins, both are horrible candidates, and anyway, it's those behind the scenes that do the running of the country anyway. But today, just following FB, tweets and news about the process so far, it hit me that Hillary might become the president of the US, and I felt so disgusted with the prospect, that, even though I strongly dislike Trump, I'd rather he be the next puppet. He might even be amusing. But Hillary? Disgusting. She does not deserve any winnings anywhere, in any way... So yeah, Arghh while waiting.
 
Neil said:
From that perspective, politics is almost irrelevant, except that the masters are sometimes revealed through the actions of their lackeys, and in cases where the lackeys are fighting each other, sometimes the haze clears enough for you to see way up the pyramid. Comey is like a mouse caught between two smallish cats, who are subjugated by larger more powerful cats, who are occasionally stirred up by a great big dog...

Have to disagree here. Politics and everything else that goes on in this world is vitally important as the only real way we have of figuring out what the 'higher' agenda is, of seeing it in real time, because that is the primary way in which any higher agenda plays out. The remit of this forum and Sott.net is to do precisely that.

As for Comey, the FBI has, since Hoover, served primarily as the 'watchman' of politicians and other big wig types, to keep them in line (primarily by blackmail and collecting dirt on them) and if necessary organizing 'accidents' for them. So I don't think Comey was 'caught', he was simply doing what he was told to do, which in this case I think was to serve warning to Hillary that she is now a 'kept' woman and will need to follow the continuing game plan of the 'deep state'.
 
Just as the psychopathic showdown in the US comes to an end, NATO announces this:

NATO Places 300,000 Troops On "High Alert" In Readiness For Confrontation With Russia

Notice especially what Stoltenberg says:

Secretary General of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg announced that NATO member nations are at this very moment putting hundreds of thousands of troops in a state of high alert, in an effort to deter the fantasy threat from Russia. Stoltenberg said…

“We have seen Russia being much more active in many different ways.”

“We have seen a more assertive Russia implementing a substantial military build-up over many years; tripling defence spending since 2000 in real terms; developing new military capabilities; exercising their forces and using military force against neighbours.”

“We have also seen Russia using propaganda in Europe among NATO allies and that is exactly the reason why NATO is responding. We are responding with the biggest reinforcement of our collective defence since the end of the Cold War.”

And here is the bummer, just a couple of days ago, the same Stoltenberg said (accidentally I guess) that there is essentially no threat from russia:

NATO secretary general: 'We are not in a Cold War'

A couple of quotes from Stoltenberg (from the article), just a couple of days ago:

"We don't see any imminent threat against any NATO ally"

"The thing is that we have to describe the reality as it is without exaggerating and talking up tensions,"

He "changed his mind" pretty quickly. I guess a lot of pressure from the US was involved here.
 
Well, something is definitely afoot: Killary being reined in; Soltenberg changing his tune... "enjoy the show" indeed!
 
Joe said:
Have to disagree here. Politics and everything else that goes on in this world is vitally important as the only real way we have of figuring out what the 'higher' agenda is, of seeing it in real time, because that is the primary way in which any higher agenda plays out. The remit of this forum and Sott.net is to do precisely that.
At one level it is just a really big reality TV show; most of these people are basically stooges. Bearing that in mind, you can infer a lot about the "directors" based on how the actors behave and the things they do to people if you watch the show closely and don't get lost in it, which is the point I was getting at about the lackeys revealing the masters. Apologies if I wasn't completely clear. My opinion on the Comey situation is that there is a lot more back and forth going on in the deep state more than firing a shot across Hillary's bow, which is part of it, but that's only my opinion.
 
[quote author= Pashalis]He "changed his mind" pretty quickly. I guess a lot of pressure from the US was involved here.[/quote]

Stoltenberg is such a slimeball, an A class opportunist hoping that he PTB will take notice of his loyalty. What he doesn't know that war with Russia is not in the cards. He only serves on a need to know basis.

He should just read the script, instead of trying to proof himself by saying things he thinks his masters will approve of.


[quote author= Alana]But Hillary? Disgusting. She does not deserve any winnings anywhere, in any way... So yeah, Arghh while waiting. [/quote]

I don't see how Hillary being president is sustainable in this make believe democracy. But the C's said that there is a US 'color revolution' in the making. Maybe it's meant to be
unsustainable. If the economy crashes and she is president, you can bet people will make her the embodiment of the cause and misery they find themselves into to. She won't be save in the White House against the angry masses.


I hope that during the inauguration of the presidency a comet will explode in the sky over Washington DC. Or something cosmic alike, it's fits the scenery of the overall depressing situation.
 
[quote author=Joe]
I don't think Comey was 'caught', he was simply doing what he was told to do, which in this case I think was to serve warning to Hillary that she is now a 'kept' woman and will need to follow the continuing game plan of the 'deep state'.

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This seems like an odd thing for the deep state to do... I mean it's not like Hilary has shown indications of acting with conscience or in defiance in any way right? That's less than what Trump threatens, but he's received less harassment from the FBI. I suppose they still intend to train him, if it turns out he gets in.
 
whitecoast said:
[quote author=Joe]
I don't think Comey was 'caught', he was simply doing what he was told to do, which in this case I think was to serve warning to Hillary that she is now a 'kept' woman and will need to follow the continuing game plan of the 'deep state'.


This seems like an odd thing for the deep state to do... I mean it's not like Hilary has shown indications of acting with conscience or in defiance in any way right? That's less than what Trump threatens, but he's received less harassment from the FBI. I suppose they still intend to train him, if it turns out he gets in.
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Don't know why you don't see that especially when the entire context is considered. It seems like the most logical inference to me.
 
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