Location, location, location

[kujo]

I've really been enjoying the synchroncities I've been witnessing lately, between thoughts that occur in my mind, and what turns up on the forums. The past few days, there's been this thought of wanting to move out of the states. I've got a passport application sitting on a shelf, which I filled out about a month ago. However, still just sitting there...

The thought to leave here occurred prior to coming across some map from The Wildlands Project, which shows specifically places in the US that will be "off limits to humans" in the guise of protecting the environment and in pursuit of sustainability. The colour on the legend noting areas off limits, covered the entire peninsula I live on. To see this map was kind of a fire under the buns. Yikes! Taking a step back and looking at the US as a whole, it all feels toxic.

However, with that thought, the funny thing is, I can't complain about this location otherwise; it feels right in every other way. Three years ago I relocated from Southern California to here. Recalling all the earthquake drills the school districts rehearsed while I growing up (living along the San Andreas Fault Line), hearing about "The Big One", memories of being evacuated due to mass wildfires perpetuated by the Santa Ana Winds, prophecies of California falling into the ocean, over populated cities, and the gamut of all other things neurotic, I'm relieved to have said goodbye to that piece of land. In august of 2005 I was to be moving (on a whim) from California to Metarie, Louisana, not too far from New Orleans; a week before I was to arrive a storm off the coast was building quickly, not long after that Hurricane Katrina made it's impact. Six months before I ended up here, I was to be off in Alaska for a new job, which unexpectedly fell through, and through a series of other events, I was led to where I reside now. And where I reside now, is where I was introduced to Cassiopaea Experiment.

Which leads me to the same juncture as Corto Maltese, where he said in the intro post,

...deep down I beleive that everyone will be exactly on the spot where they are supposed to be at certain point in time.

Which could even mean, relocating to a place you never thought you'd end up... Seems best to be open and see what happens.

 

[SnoDog]

Steve here,
Greetings from the US - the capital of STS

I live on a hill on the SF bay area Peninsula, East of the Pacific Ocean where I am 325 feet above sea level. My land could separate and turn upside down, or a tidal wave could sweep over the hill into the Bay. If a wave taller than 325 feet arrives, then I’m not sure where one would need to be to escape it – or worse- the ensuing conflagration in the aftermath of a comet impact large enough to generate a tidal wave larger than 300 feet.

FWIW - there are at least 3 places of contradiction in the C's transcripts regarding the possible order of future events:

The wave, fourth density on the 'new earth', cataclysms for those left behind
Cataclysms, The Wave, some catch it others get swept under, fourth density 'new earth'
The wave, transition (death, quick stop-over at fifth density to pick up some things) then rebirth in fourth density.

Always in motion is the future.

Raise you hands if you have ever read the Internet Fable of John Titor? (_http://www.johntitor.com) The controversial tale deals with future time and a probable reality. There are many 'nuggets' of wisdom from this 'fable'. Since this thread deals with 3D concepts I'm compelled to point out the obvious that Comets, The Wave and Humanity are items we have no control over as individuals.

In the present political/economic times here in the US I think that it will be civil unrest before anything from space occurs. If you read the John Titor ‘fable’ there are some startling synchronicities between his rhetoric from 9 years ago and events transpiring today. If you are of a mind to think about defending against humanity before the storm some pearls of wisdom might be:

1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.
3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.
4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.
5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.
6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.
7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.
8. Eat less.
9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.
10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.

Civil unrest begins in the large density population centers. But as has been mentioned before, most rural areas depend upon the infrastructure of the country and there are few locations that are really off the grid. Such location would immediately become targets of opportunity in the worst cases scenarios.

When the Loma Prieta earthquake struck the Bay Area, my family had a trial run with being off the grid and surviving without basic services for a few days. It was an eye-opening event.
I can remember pushing bullets into magazines before Y2K in the event of a global break down.
I read somewhere in some where in my reading travels that ending the life of another human being can cause a 'fracture' / 'splintering' of your soul, or something 'not good' like that. The 'C's maintain that the soul is eternal and the body is temporary, and all is lessons. I believe in Karma. Beyond the moral/ethical implications, I just don't think its a good for for your acension process to kill people. My hope is that I will not have to make a decision between defending my family and ending another life. To survive we are to join together, not turn on each other.

Thank you for reading this

-=Steve


Modeator's note: The link has beeb deactivated

 

[henry]

Welcome to the forum, Steve.

FWIW - there are at least 3 places of contradiction in the C's transcripts regarding the possible order of future events:

It isn't at all surprising that there are 'contradictions' in what the Cs say about future events. They have never claimed infallibility. There are many factors that enter into account when discussing future events: The future is open. What we do or do not do here and now can change things. If people who are part of the sessions have strong beliefs, these can influence what comes through the board. From the Cs point of view, they indicate it is difficult to get exact dates.

The only 'contradiction' in the three statements you mention seems to be whether or not the catastrophes come before or after the Wave.

The wave, fourth density on the 'new earth', cataclysms for those left behind
Cataclysms, The Wave, some catch it others get swept under, fourth density 'new earth'
The wave, transition (death, quick stop-over at fifth density to pick up some things) then rebirth in fourth density.

First I would want to see the specific quotes because sometimes what they say is open to interpretation and you aren't quoting exactly what they say.

But maybe you are seeing the Wave as a precise event rather than a period of transition. The Cs have also said that we have begun to feel the effects.

As for John Titor and the elements you bring forward about the future, you might find the thread on Creating the A New World to offer an alternative perspective. Although some of the issues are the same, I find the approach discussed in that thread to be more in keeping with the Work we do here than the approach you mention. Understanding those differences might help you better understand our approach.

Titor is seeing things from a strictly 3D perspective. Material survival. In the Creating A New World thread, we are attempting to pull out some core principles that will help us in creating material conditions that reflect the higher reality and enable society and its individual members to maintain and develop their links with it.

Kind of a big difference. :)

 

[Andrian]

Hi to all, i want to say that is an interesting topic ,and i have read interesting post of the members who had participated on it ,my current location is Italy on the north side ,city Torino a very beautiful city sourrounded by the mountains ,recently a lived in Moldova ,there is an agricultural country whitout mountains and sea. But anyway i think in near future i will stay here becouse doesn't important where you are changes will come everywhere .Important is to be prepared an if you can to help others to be prepared.

 

[Faith]

Oh great! Now check this out: Right now I am living at a place in Germany not unlike the Shire (where the hobbits live) I am in love with this place, the woods, the fields and the little rivers. If our global infrastructure collapses, this would be the best place for self-supply. Of course we would have to build a strong surrounding wall to shield our village from the plundering city hordes.

BUT, I am considering moving from the Shire to the US, to the lands of Mordor, in order to start my studies of concept art, which should be finished in 2012! Seen from an illustrator's point of view, the United States seems to be the place of choice. It has the biggest and most promissing infrastructure, concerning the entertainment industry. Everything is powerfull there: the good, the bad and the ugly!

If I external considering this thread, I am not sure, if this would be the right choice. On the other hand, you could say: Everyone stands wherever he or her stands. So, who cares? I won't let this wave of yours intimidate me! If this Wave is supposed to come, caused by forces we cannot controll by any craft that we here possess, let it come! I will honestly stand for what I am! So be it! ...or beat it

 

[The rabbit]

For many years my life and thoughts have been based around the work which has been done by Laura and group., though I have not been in such a state that I have worried about where I live. A long time ago i did , but that was when i lived in the uk over ten years ago. I saw then what was coming and no longer wanted to be there.
Germany was my first port of call and i lived there for six months before moving to Denmark.

Danish folk asked me why i had chosen Denmark to live and my answer in the early days was that i had come to defend them from the dark powers of mordor which was now very close to their border , and as they were the tallest hobbits i had ever encountered i was here to stand or fall with them :)

This was in 1999 , and since then the borders have indeed been breached. Poverty (financially speaking) is still kind of unheard of in this country , the Danes have a very good standard of living , and are a very privileged society compared to anywhere else i have ever traveled to , and it is only now being challenged by the economic rip off we are all suffering.

This would maybe account for peoples blindness to what is happening globally.

Still , i have networked with a number of good people over the last year or so here , and because of this network we are starting to work as a group on a project which will be hopefully for the benefit of all involved. My wife and I purchased an old building with some land near the end of last summer for the purpose of creating a place where people can express their creativeness in many forms from carpentry , music , theatre , animation and in general whatever they would like to do.

They understand that they have to help build the place for such a thing to happen and in general there is lots of good will, and though slow at times things are moving along.

So in general though i have one eye on world events i dont think of moving anywhere else , i trust in the universe to provide if it is the right thing, and in many ways i believe this has happened and always at the right time. So many times in fact that people are quite shocked :O

People have actually said they see it happen but dont understand why, or how. Neither do i.

I sense that the world is changing quickly all around us and that we really dont have much time ,and there is much that i would like to do and may never get the time to do it , but it has been said that one must carry on regardless and i am content to do this.

All in all this place is as good as anywhere else to be , and all i can say is networking is our best hope , to find those who are on a similar wavelength and do as polonius instructs his son Laertes to do in Hamlet

The friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;

I know i should not have to say this , but to those who feel they have to leave the place that they are now , dont just move due to fear , but look before you leap , have a plan.

 

[Faith]

All in all this place is as good as anywhere else to be , and all i can say is networking is our best hope , to find those who are on a similar wavelength and do as polonius instructs his son Laertes to do in Hamlet

The friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;

I know i should not have to say this , but to those who feel they have to leave the place that they are now , dont just move due to fear , but look before you leap , have a plan.

SO SAY WE ALL! :D

 

[mandell]

If Da Vinci, Nostradamus, artists at Auch Cathederal and others with access to ancient knowledge and truth in the 16th Century are correct in their insights, as they all seem to have been together in their collaborations, then it looks pretty dangerous for the whole northern hemisphere when all of this starts to finalize. With earthquakes and volcanoes ravaging a destructive path from Asia to the UK and back again to it's finale in California and the San Andreas fault initiating the blowing of Yellowstone's top!

Even if Yellowstone blows without any other natural cataclysms, (although 5 worldwide earthquakes this week including Haiti negates this comment), then the Earth alone will reap the balance it deserves with the resulting cover of volcanic ash and debris.

Although i'd have to agree that humans killing other humans via the current ponerology and fascism is a lot scarier and does not represent the balance of restoration this great planet needs. Since I was a child I always knew that the females on this earth were not truthfully represented ever since I was told 'cavemen' clubbed their women to get things done or receive there requests (ironically).. So perhaps the only way the power structure can be restored socially is to stand up once and for all- together?!

Plenty of room down here! :/

 

[Harold]

Hello Stormy Knight, Great thread, this topic is on my mind quite often.

Here is a link that relates to your concern/inquiry. http://www.slavespecies.com/pages/clips.php

Now I have two concerns with this video presentation, first off I think its wonderful. Having said that, two things come to mind.

1) The powers that be, are very interested in mountain tops. They buy them.... the vatican for example, they worship up in them..... Tibeten monks for example, and most stories, myths, religons.... say the 'GODS', live up in them.......Moses, Alice Bailey and so forth.

2) I did myself look up as many petroglyphs as I could find with spirals in them. They are all above 3000 feet sea level.

So is this a COINTELPRO to get us to head for the hills when the stuff hits the fan, thus turning mountain tops into a drive thru like McD's. Hmmmm. In the grand scheme of things, does it matter where you are located? That is taking non-local communications into consideration and so forth. Not to mention that the Georgia Guide Stones are. A instrument to show when our planets alignment goes off. Not to mention what is going on in Denver etc. Me, from what I know, you have about 6 days from the time we all hear something we all have NEVER heard befor. To get above 3000 feet altitude.


Again, great thread,
cheers,
Harold

 

[Al Today]

Just me here, but my thoughts are there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. As said many times, It's not where you are, it's who you are and what you see. Personally, I don't wanna survive the Apocalypse. Where the living wish for death, kinda stuff. I know I'm not physically able to be of value to anyone left. I'm gonna die there. I accept it. All I ask for is a little knowledge and a lawn chair to watch ground zero... And some excellent smokes with a couple cold beers...

Then again, all this is hypothesis. Why perhaps destroy your life IF NOTHING DOES HAPPEN?

 

[scazd]

Which could even mean, relocating to a place you never thought you'd end up... Seems best to be open and see what happens.

Imo... "Open" has advantages - yes? & no? Not that I am in any way efficient in the following , never the less it may merit a review. You be your own judge of that. Foundations are the key to longevity of the structure.

http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Strategic_enclosure

Thanks for posting what you did Kujo it is a beautiful experience... one can tell, and, well stated. It prompted 'me' (funny little word) to make a review of how I (nuther' funny little word) ended up 'here' as well, thereby writing a page to page and a half in so doing. It was initially intended to post - still may. Reserving the right to remain "open" on that for now.

 

[1984]

Thanks for posting what you did Kujo it is a beautiful experience... one can tell, and, well stated. It prompted 'me' (funny little word) to make a review of how I (nuther' funny little word) ended up 'here' as well, thereby writing a page to page and a half in so doing. It was initially intended to post - still may. Reserving the right to remain "open" on that for now.

Hi scazd, :)

You are welcome, and encouraged, to post an introduction in the Newbies section.

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

Just me here, but my thoughts are there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. As said many times, It's not where you are, it's who you are and what you see. Personally, I don't wanna survive the Apocalypse. Where the living wish for death, kinda stuff. I know I'm not physically able to be of value to anyone left. I'm gonna die there. I accept it. All I ask for is a little knowledge and a lawn chair to watch ground zero... And some excellent smokes with a couple cold beers...

Then again, all this is hypothesis. Why perhaps destroy your life IF NOTHING DOES HAPPEN?

Yes, I think the 'who you are and what you see' is the crucial point here Al. I suspect that we may well see increasing propaganda over the next few years from the PTB via cointelpro sources (Alex Jones, George Green to name but a few) to stock up on guns, food, gold and 'run to the hills' type behaviour. I've just finished watching the film 'Knowing' which seemed to indicate that the most appropriate behavior in the event of Cataclysmic events is either to run around like a lunatic with a rucksack on your back in complete panic or be whisked away by aliens to some idyllic other world if you're one of the few lucky chosen ones. Needless to say, I don't intend on indulging in either of these activities if at all possible.

As you say, I can't see why, with the knowledge we have of possible upcoming events why anyone would want to survive such carnage. As Gurdjieff has indicated, so many people on this planet are already 'Dead' and personally it is this type of spiritual/intellectual death which has scarred this planet for so long that scares me far more than the passing of this 'skinbag' I currently inhabit. So Whether I have 5 or 45 years left here, my primary motivation now is move as far away from this intellectual/spiritual death as is possible. I'd contend that hiding out in the hills with a shotgun and a bag of gold is not conducive the The Work. ;)

Whilst I doubt there is single person here in this network who has not undergone some great struggle in their lives, we are really quite fortunate (or perhaps rather we have made it our fortune) to find this work here. If the Wave arrives in 5 years time with all the preceding upheaval that is anticipated, the vast majority of the planet will be utterly unprepared emotionally. Of course the future is open so I don't want to delve into the realm of wild speculation here but it may be that in the midst of such chaos, some here will find that they have a role in helping others in whatever small way they can to comprehend what is happening and how they can better cope with the chaos (Strategic Enclosure and non-abridgment of Free Will permitting of course).

In a practical sense though it still pays to be vigilant regarding issues like food shortages. We all have to feed ourselves and our families and if it's obvious that there's a high probability of this happening I'll be the first to be running round buying up supplies of buckwheat flour. :)

 

[Mona]

It's not where you are, it's who you are and what you see. Personally, I don't wanna survive the Apocalypse. Where the living wish for death, kinda stuff. I know I'm not physically able to be of value to anyone left. I'm gonna die there. I accept it. All I ask for is a little knowledge and a lawn chair to watch ground zero... And some excellent smokes with a couple cold beers...

Yes, I think the 'who you are and what you see' is the crucial point here Al. I suspect that we may well see increasing propaganda over the next few years from the PTB via cointelpro sources (Alex Jones, George Green to name but a few) to stock up on guns, food, gold and 'run to the hills' type behaviour. I've just finished watching the film 'Knowing' which seemed to indicate that the most appropriate behavior in the event of Cataclysmic events is either to run around like a lunatic with a rucksack on your back in complete panic or be whisked away by aliens to some idyllic other world if you're one of the few lucky chosen ones. Needless to say, I don't intend on indulging in either of these activities if at all possible.

As you say, I can't see why, with the knowledge we have of possible upcoming events why anyone would want to survive such carnage. As Gurdjieff has indicated, so many people on this planet are already 'Dead' and personally it is this type of spiritual/intellectual death which has scarred this planet for so long that scares me far more than the passing of this 'skinbag' I currently inhabit. So Whether I have 5 or 45 years left here, my primary motivation now is move as far away from this intellectual/spiritual death as is possible. I'd contend that hiding out in the hills with a shotgun and a bag of gold is not conducive the The Work. ;)

Whilst I doubt there is single person here in this network who has not undergone some great struggle in their lives, we are really quite fortunate (or perhaps rather we have made it our fortune) to find this work here. If the Wave arrives in 5 years time with all the preceding upheaval that is anticipated, the vast majority of the planet will be utterly unprepared emotionally. Of course the future is open so I don't want to delve into the realm of wild speculation here but it may be that in the midst of such chaos, some here will find that they have a role in helping others in whatever small way they can to comprehend what is happening and how they can better cope with the chaos (Strategic Enclosure and non-abridgment of Free Will permitting of course).

In a practical sense though it still pays to be vigilant regarding issues like food shortages. We all have to feed ourselves and our families and if it's obvious that there's a high probability of this happening I'll be the first to be running round buying up supplies of buckwheat flour. :)

I sooooo agree with you, Pai. We are lucky to have found this knowledge that Laura has been working so hard to acquire; we are truly lucky to be in this classroom together. I also don't worry about my final destination that much either. If I do die I just hope the check out to 5D will be quick and least painful. Though, I am seriously planning to move this year to a smaller city in British Columbia, not because I feel that it is going to be a safer place for me. I have lived in Calgary for almost28 years and I have reached my limit. I have been finished with this place for quite sometime, and this year makes it the perfect year for me to move.

When I think about it, it really does not matter where we are but who we are and what we see. I just wish more people had the courage to seek the truth, no matter how much the truth causes pain. I am not going to deny it, as I am still in 3D body, But when it does happen and if I will witness people suffering I will most likely be very emotional. I do think though that living in the country with nature at the time of any cataclystic event would be a more enjoyable experience than being in a city with hysterical humans fighting scrap of food. I, personally, don't know how to shoot a gun, and even though I have access to sharp weapons such as knives, I will not choose to kill animals so that I may live. I know it sounds pathetic that I eat chickens, but when it comes to me killing it, I will not do it.

We are unable to predict the future and maybe it's a good thing, because what if the true events of the future will be extremely unsettling to anybody's mind living in a 3D world. Could we truly prepare for such an event successfully? Lets' say that whatever happened in Rwanda could actually occur on a global scale. There would be no place to hide anywhere because every corner on every continent would be affected by this madness. I think that whatever supposes to happen will happen, no matter how well prepared we think we are. Hmm... maybe the North Pole could be a safe haven. Just a thought.

 

[scazd]

Hi Mona, U made the following observation. Its very nice to be able to be thrust into considering possibilities and give cause to think aloud - right or wrong - of which, without this ability who are we?

We are unable to predict the future and maybe it's a good thing

Many years ago a much older and far far wiser fellow said to me: "Maybe tends to go negative."

It didn't sink in immediately. Its taken some living to realize that there is in our 3D world of physics such concepts of 'positive', 'negative' and 'neutral'. He stated: "Maybe tends toward neutral. Neutral tends to go negative." This I've found true-enough - perhaps not absolute... none the less true-enough to merit considering.

Regarding the prediction of the future... of course not to be word nazi just as mentioned thinking aloud - what has recently come to mind to consider, oh... just a few days go in fact, is exactly that. Can we or can't "we". Individually, perhaps not yet that is a bit to final as well. What came to mind the other day was a vision of ice core sampling. Ice core sampling in one sense of the word "predict" can in fact do just that. Perhaps not the day or the exact hour, yet, when one sees the apple tree blossom we can 'know' a thing or two of what the future holds.

I never seemed to think it was so miraculous that the Jesus of the bible could predict the future. With far less distractions/distortions to contend with many gifts we all share have room to manifest. Perhaps seeing certain probable simultaneous future understandings is one of many innate abilities and not all that impossible. Seems to me this has been mentioned in a session - I cannot recall for certain sorry about that.

sincerely