London Olympics 2012

[Gawan]

I'm sorry, but I think you guys are projecting here. It looks to me like he's waving at the athletes, as is the person (his wife?) beside him. It also looks like Camilla is laughing at something unrelated but just happens to be looking in that direction, as you can see the person to her left is laughing along with her although looking somewhere else. I think people are just primed to see evil here and are jumping at shadows.
My 2 cents.

You are right. I ask my husband and he reminded me that in Nazi salute your arm stand still. And this case, this man his arm is not stand still. So I think he is saluting his team or his flag or his country.

Technically speaking it was the right arm and not the left for doing the Hitler salute.

 

[Laura]

If we are to take the "Burrell stories" at face value we shouldn't forget the alleged statement from Diana saying "the royal family are not human". So which is it? Personally I've never seen anything but a black hole in the Queen's eyes, and that husband of hers is certainly a character, so I'm very wary of giving her any benefit of the doubt. The puppet part is probably true, but that doesn't mean she's a nice person, or even a "person" at all.

Diana's intended meaning was obviously that the family was not sensitive to her feelings and we have to remember that she had some serious issues with bulimia, etc. Also, consider that Burrell did care about Diana. So it's not a case of "which is it", it's a case of carefully considering all the factors.

If you see a "black hole" in the Queen's eyes, I think you may be projecting a bit.

You have to remember, this is a woman who came to her job BECAUSE her beloved father died, and she was brought up to do her duty and had a clear idea of what it was because of the way she was raised. You can learn a lot about this by reading about their activities during WW II. It was widely understood that it was the stresses of being king that killed her father, so she never forgets that, either, I'm sure. She was so angry at her uncle who abdicated, forcing her father to be king when they were just living a happy, normal life, that she never received him as long as he lived. The world has changed under her feet and the fact that she has managed to keep her balance at all is remarkable.

As we have learned, on a very small scale compared to her life, having any kind of public presence means there are always going to be detractors and destroyers making assumptions and telling lies for all kinds of pathological reasons.

 

[Z...]

I'm sorry, but I think you guys are projecting here. It looks to me like he's waving at the athletes, as is the person (his wife?) beside him. It also looks like Camilla is laughing at something unrelated but just happens to be looking in that direction, as you can see the person to her left is laughing along with her although looking somewhere else. I think people are just primed to see evil here and are jumping at shadows.
My 2 cents.

It surely is one hell of unnatural wave, projection or not. I've never seen anyone before waving like this.
How come he didn't wave like this at British or Russians?

 

[Cosmos]

I'm sorry, but I think you guys are projecting here. It looks to me like he's waving at the athletes, as is the person (his wife?) beside him. It also looks like Camilla is laughing at something unrelated but just happens to be looking in that direction, as you can see the person to her left is laughing along with her although looking somewhere else. I think people are just primed to see evil here and are jumping at shadows.
My 2 cents.

It surely is one hell of unnatural wave, projection or not. I've never seen anyone before waving like this.
How come he didn't wave like this at British or Russians?

I also think that it is simply his way of greeeting and has nothing to do with the "Hitler Gruß".
Did you saw him when the British or Russians came in and how he was behaving then to make a comparision ?

Also it doesn't really proof that he is greeting the germans here either.
in the end the Olympic athletes are walking in a circle through the whole stadium and at that point maybe his favorite team was nearest to his place and he greeted them. and it could very well be that it was not the german team.

 

[Gary]

I followed that part of this circus and that "dear madame" looked like she was "royally" bored like hell ... it got to the point that it amused me and I had to say it out loud ("bon sang, mais elle se fait royalement ch..er la reine") ;)

Thing is she almost looked aggressive sometimes, when kids were chanting I couldn't even see a glitch of satisfaction, so it seems that this one can't hold it anymore.

As for the Queens reaction - fwiw, I thought she looked really uncomfortable and very apprehensive, like maybe she knew there was another script being played out here, that the vast majority of viewers just wouldn't understand, including myself.

Interesting how two people can come to such different conclusions observing a third person they don't even know.

I wish people would leave that poor woman and her family alone. They are pawns and puppets and Burrell let the cat out of the bag by quoting what the queen said to him and then back-tracking big time. She knows that she's little more than a dog and pony show.

Laura, I can't see where I made any "conclusion" about the queen, but only expressed my personal observation from that occasion. It wasn't an attack on her, but you quickly leapt to her 'defense'. She may be a 'high level pawn' or a 'pyschopath' or something else. Even if any of us knew her personally, who could state with all honesty that they could make an objective conclusion about her character? She may be a pawn or puppet - that is my interpretation anyhow fwiw. Her acting role in the bond spoof was funny, and better than Daniel Craig I thought :)

 

[Joe]

And of course, during Germany's entrance:

Notice he's sitting in the VIP section with Camilla Parker Bowles and the Major of London (who finds it extremely hilarious). Don't think this is an accident. A planned act.

You're not serious are you? He was probably just waving. Let's keep some perspective here. Y'all are starting to sound like you belong over at David Icke's forum.

 

[Ekios]

We can see it on this video actually _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaVQtGxbN4

 

[SoCurious]

You're not serious are you? He was probably just waving. Let's keep some perspective here.

Thank you Perceval. Just watched the video. If that's a nazi salute Hitler will surely punish him later.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

I'm sorry, but I think you guys are projecting here. It looks to me like he's waving at the athletes, as is the person (his wife?) beside him. It also looks like Camilla is laughing at something unrelated but just happens to be looking in that direction, as you can see the person to her left is laughing along with her although looking somewhere else. I think people are just primed to see evil here and are jumping at shadows.
My 2 cents.

It surely is one hell of unnatural wave, projection or not. I've never seen anyone before waving like this.
How come he didn't wave like this at British or Russians?

I also think that it is simply his way of greeeting and has nothing to do with the "Hitler Gruß".
Did you saw him when the British or Russians came in and how he was behaving then to make a comparision ?

Also it doesn't really proof that he is greeting the germans here either.
in the end the Olympic athletes are walking in a circle through the whole stadium and at that point maybe his favorite team was nearest to his place and he greeted them. and it could very well be that it was not the german team.

I also saw the greeting when watched the openings live from tv and my initial reaction was laughing at the irony of it, because i interpret the gesture as an accident and saw nothing else behind it.

 

[Joe]

If we are to take the "Burrell stories" at face value we shouldn't forget the alleged statement from Diana saying "the royal family are not human". So which is it? Personally I've never seen anything but a black hole in the Queen's eyes, and that husband of hers is certainly a character, so I'm very wary of giving her any benefit of the doubt. The puppet part is probably true, but that doesn't mean she's a nice person, or even a "person" at all.

Diana's intended meaning was obviously that the family was not sensitive to her feelings and we have to remember that she had some serious issues with bulimia, etc. Also, consider that Burrell did care about Diana. So it's not a case of "which is it", it's a case of carefully considering all the factors.

If you see a "black hole" in the Queen's eyes, I think you may be projecting a bit.

You have to remember, this is a woman who came to her job BECAUSE her beloved father died, and she was brought up to do her duty and had a clear idea of what it was because of the way she was raised. You can learn a lot about this by reading about their activities during WW II. It was widely understood that it was the stresses of being king that killed her father, so she never forgets that, either, I'm sure. She was so angry at her uncle who abdicated, forcing her father to be king when they were just living a happy, normal life, that she never received him as long as he lived. The world has changed under her feet and the fact that she has managed to keep her balance at all is remarkable.

As we have learned, on a very small scale compared to her life, having any kind of public presence means there are always going to be detractors and destroyers making assumptions and telling lies for all kinds of pathological reasons.

Yeah, the British royals are surely puppets of the real British establishment, although they are clearly pretty disfunctional, although that just makes them similar to many British families. If the queen ever thought about abdicating or otherwise ditching the whole Monarchy thing, she undoubtedly came under serious pressure from the establishment with reasons why it was not good for the country to do so. For the real rulers of the UK, the monarchy is very useful in generating 'patriotic' feelings which can then be used for all sorts of evil things like generating public support for war and keeping the people blind to the real intentions of the elite.

 

[Joe]

I'm sorry, but I think you guys are projecting here. It looks to me like he's waving at the athletes, as is the person (his wife?) beside him. It also looks like Camilla is laughing at something unrelated but just happens to be looking in that direction, as you can see the person to her left is laughing along with her although looking somewhere else. I think people are just primed to see evil here and are jumping at shadows.
My 2 cents.

It surely is one hell of unnatural wave, projection or not. I've never seen anyone before waving like this.
How come he didn't wave like this at British or Russians?

Did he wave at all at British or Russians? Do any other govt. reps wave at the teams of other nations?

 

[herrnimrod]

Just remembered another incident that might have some meaning.

gosh
1757, altered pronunciation of God. Probably from by gosse (mid-16c.).

You're not serious are you? He was probably just waving. Let's keep some perspective here. Y'all are starting to sound like you belong over at David Icke's forum.

Never seen anybody wave like that. Well, except..

And I don't know what you mean by perspective. This is one of the biggest propaganda shows the PTB gets to televise. Of course it matters if a billion people are going to see what I assume many if not most will interpret as a nazi salute.

 

[Timey]

The choice of "Hey Jude" as closing music could be interpreted as "Hey Jew". I think in German "Jude" literally means Jew too.

Comn, really?

 

[Laura]

It surely is one hell of unnatural wave, projection or not. I've never seen anyone before waving like this.
How come he didn't wave like this at British or Russians?

I have. In fact, I've done it myself when waving from a distance.

A: It is just as dangerous and just as useless to "see" conspiracy in everything as it is to "see" conspiracy in nothing. We tire of conspiracy "buffs." They are nutty, and serve as perfect false sponsors to those who really DO seek to conduct widespread mental/psychic manipulations and control.

 

[Joe]

Never seen anybody wave like that. Well, except..

Well then maybe you've lived a closeted life, because that's not an unusual way to wave - holding the arm out at a 45 degree angle and moving it towards the chest and back out - especially if you are trying to signal a large number of people from a significant distance. Try it yourself.

And I don't know what you mean by perspective.

Let me explain then. Maintaining perspective means looking at all possible rational answers/explanations to a question/situation before jumping to a subjective conclusion that supports a belief in which you are already invested.

This is one of the biggest propaganda shows the PTB gets to televise. Of course it matters if a billion people are going to see what I assume many if not most will interpret as a nazi salute.

There you go assuming again. Anyone who sees the video will probably conclude that he was just waving.