Mass Migration - a plan, or just a consequence of some other plan

mabar said:
Persej said:
In short - they choose Germany because the Germany allowed the migrants who registered in other countries to live in Germany, which is against the EU's Dublin regulation. Plus the Germany is giving them a lot of money, of course.

I am not surprised at all, in fact German do need immigrants, it will lack people in future years, because German people had decreased child birth ratio over the years, if it was not for immigrants, German would not have generations to keep working, to keep functioning. It would be a country of too many old people and kids. Something that is happening too in other European countries as well. (Of course, all of this, without considering cataclysms and such).

_http://www.dw.com/en/womens-career-or-kids-dilemma-drives-german-baby-drought/a-18300620

I do think that this too many old people has to be fed by too few young people in Germany's future is propaganda of the (local) PTB. We have got a problem in Germany that our pension scheme is set up in a way that the working people are paying the retirees. But this could be solved, I think, when elder people stay healthy and move to not so expensive places. Or when young persons look after older ones and all share funds.

Another propaganda is the so-called shortage of skilled labour, which I cannot really see when looking into details. The real problem is that the elites are so greedy that they want to have everything for themselves and all others should be slaves / serfs of them.

I saw refugees coming to Germany. Most of them are not that different from us. Germany is also used to Muslims as we are having Turks here for decades. A lot of normal people work hard for nothing that these people coming here get a roof over their head, (warm) clothes on their bodies, enough to drink and eat, and get their hygienic needs met. This could work out if there were only normal people in the play on both sides, who could share what is there and accept that there are differences is habits.

But I think that PTB have chaos in mind and earth changes already mirror this chaos. This whole time is very similar to the end of the Roman empire. Now we have also got mass migrations to Europe from South East. Roman Empire also had mass migrations from the South East ("Goths", "Huns") at their end.

What we are still missing is a large-scale breakdown, plague and large scale overhead boom booms...

Wait and see.
 
Well, it looks to me that the C's were right about this topic. When they said it, I thought, "No way". Maybe in America, but not in Europe. But now... I think it is quite possible scenario.

Q: (L) I guess we should get to that since that's what we've been concerned about. Is this Charlie Hebdo event a false flag operation?

A: Absolutely! All the signs are evident!

Q: (Pierre) And the motive, is it because of France's position on Russia? Is it because of France's position on Palestine...?

(L) Wait a minute, wait a minute, back up.

(Chu) What is the motive?

(L) Yeah, that's a fairly simple question. What is the motive?

A: To get France in line with Israel's survival mandate: Semites must be destroyed!

Q: (L) Basically, you're saying that Israelis are not Semitic, but Arabs for the most part are. Is that what you're saying?

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) So, the objective is the destruction of Arabic population in France through a civil war?

(L) I would say so, because if you've got the destruction of the Arabic population in France, then there is no support [from outside] for the Arabic people around Israel [and they can be more easily destroyed]. Israel just wants to claim all that land – Eretz Israel, they call it.

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Destruction through civil war?

A: Expulsion, camps, similar to the treatment of the Semitic Jews by the Nazis, supported or ignored by the rest of the world.

Q: (Pierre) That's exactly what this guy Eric Zemmour, the guy who was on every French TV show, was announcing on air. He was announcing that Arabic population because they are a source of chaos should be deported. There was this big controversy around what he said. Actually, it was priming the French population to what is going to happen.

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36932.0.html

And now they are maybe priming the German population? I mean, if they are really just interested in cheap labor why are they preventing the people from Balkan countries to come to live in Germany? They just announced that Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro are also going to be put on the "safe countries" list.

Germany Curbs Balkan Rights to Claim Asylum

Germany on Monday announced that Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro would be classified as “safe countries of origin”, which means that people who come to Germany from those countries will be sent back more quickly, as few will be able to obtain asylum status.

Germany has already designated all EU states plus Ghana, Senegal, Serbia, Macedonia and Bosnia as "safe countries", which means that asylum claims from nationals of these countries are likely to be rejected.

The move came as Germany on Monday unveiled its first overall plan to deal with the growing influx of refugees entering the country.

According to official data, almost 40 per cent of all asylum seekers in Germany came from the Balkans.

_http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/germany-tightens-up-on-balkan-migrants-09-08-2015
 
Persej said:
Well, it looks to me that the C's were right about this topic. When they said it, I thought, "No way". Maybe in America, but not in Europe. But now... I think it is quite possible scenario.

Yes, it's amazing how quickly the C's comments are coming to fruition. The scenario depicted does look possible, even probable at this point given what we've been witnessing for the past few years and how quickly whole countries are turned into chaos states.

Q: (Pierre) Destruction through civil war?

A: Expulsion, camps, similar to the treatment of the Semitic Jews by the Nazis, supported or ignored by the rest of the world.

Q: (Pierre) That's exactly what this guy Eric Zemmour, the guy who was on every French TV show, was announcing on air. He was announcing that Arabic population because they are a source of chaos should be deported. There was this big controversy around what he said. Actually, it was priming the French population to what is going to happen.

We're witnessing an expulsion at this point in time. It's not currently an expulsion in the same way that the Nazi's expelled so many, but these refugees are being pushed out of their own lands as a direct consequence of European involvement with NATO's barbarity. The refugee crisis isn't likely to slow down any time soon, and we'll probably be seeing even more horrific things to come in the near future.
 
mabar said:
Konstantin said:
This is something that makes me sad and angry at the same time. Just look this women, the reporter. How can a normal human behave like that. She is definitely a psycho.

_http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hungarian-camerawoman-fired-kicking-migrants-fleeing-article-1.2352680

Horrible. But, I would not called her psychopath, at the article is mention that she is from an internet TV news associated to far-right (is called) Jobbik party that is in frecuence? with anti-Semitic and anti-immigration views.

From my point of view, when people keep hearing all day long hatred (because at work, home, coffee, that is what I assume they are talking about) against others because whatever the others are a threat to them, they (immigrants/refugees) will change the way of living, they feel is not fair that their government is helping or not immigrants/refugees because they are not like them, they do not have the regent, they are illegals, etc. It figures to me, that perhaps she was fired from her work not just because it would had been the right thing to do, but due appearances, perhaps she was applauded in her circle. Because if it wasn't a refugee, if it was an Hungarian just like her, she would probably be in jail, or something similar -I am unfamiliar with Hungarian laws, but I assume they should have similar basic laws in Europe.

Yes, you are right, they fired her not because what she has done, but because they thought that that was what the people will ask for, so the TV station will look as nice and right. It they new that she has done the same thing and if the video was not online she will probably still have her job. I just wonder what she feels and thinks about what she did.I dont think that she is aware what was she doing. As you said a lot of peoples brains are brainwashed by media and propaganda. They are not aware of the real situation, so they cant think by themselves.
All that refugee are just ordinary human beings like you and me and they deserve more humanity, because the "empire' can do the same to our homes and tomorrow we can share the same destiny like them.
They are in terrible situation and winter is coming and it will get only worst.
And yes, like many have said the Germany needs some new slaves to work for them, so they have them now.
 
Hungarian video journalist trips refugees running from police

When dozens of refugees tried to escape police officers at a Hungarian camp on Tuesday, one camerawoman decided to get involved. While she was filming a father, holding a child in his arms, she tripped both of them.

The scene at the camp, was captured by a German correspondent. According to Hungarian news site 444.hu, the camerawoman - Petra László, worked for Hungarian broadcaster N1 and has since been fired.

Seems Petra László, liked "to play" with refugees because there are more of pictures & videos of her in action, this time the victim was a little girl refugee. :cry:

Here are the links with videos and pics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3226888/Hungarian-camerawoman-sacked-filmed-tripping-migrants.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/08/watch-a-hungarian-camerawoman-trips-refugees-who-are-running-from-police/
http://europe.newsweek.com/hungarian-camerwoman-fired-after-kicking-refugees-they-fled-police-332712
http://globalnews.ca/news/2209841/watch-hungarian-camerawoman-trips-refugees-running-from-police/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25a5RRh6nXs
 

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Re: Hungarian video journalist trips refugees running from police

She has a Facebook page if anybody wants to tell her what they think of her. I just told her she appears to be a psychopath.

_https://www.facebook.com/Petra-Laszlo-120519344968616/timeline/

Scroll down. She apparently thinks it's funny that someone drew a cartoon of her tripping that poor little Syrian baby that washed up on the beach.

ADDED: Just wondered if someone else created that page in her name?
 
Re: Hungarian video journalist trips refugees running from police

It was put up on SOTT a few days ago: http://www.sott.net/article/301353-Hungarian-reporter-fired-after-being-caught-on-video-kicking-and-tripping-refugee-children

The story is also being discussed on the forum here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39296.0.html
 
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Merge?
 
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Laura said:
ADDED: Just wondered if someone else created that page in her name?

That's my guess. Most people disappear from social media after incidents where they anger the masses like she's done.

Laura said:

Doing it now.
 
Is the stage being set?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/container-with-aid-for-refugees-was-full-of-weapons-and-ammunition/ said:
https://youtu.be/xn-UCR5p0y0

Container full of help for Muslim “refugees” arrived in Greece and guess what was in there? It was full of weapon. Why isn’t media reporting about this?

“The Greek Coast Guard seized a vessel Tuesday carrying ammunition and weapons near the southern island of Crete, authorities said, according to the Associated Press. The shipment is believed to be linked to the Islamic State group in Libya, according to local media reports. Authorities have not yet confirmed whether it was connected to the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS, and said more information would be released later in the day.

http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-weapons-europe-greek-coast-guard-seizes-islamic-state-ship-smuggling-ammunition-2076983

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-weapon-shipment-intercepted-by-greek-coastguard-off-crete-1518013

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/isis-weapon-shipment-intercepted-greek-142318096.html#ZWAhcwX

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/03/greece-seizes-isis-linked-weapons-shipment/
One wonders who really organized this aid package.
 
Re: Hungarian video journalist trips refugees running from police

Heimdallr said:
It was put up on SOTT a few days ago: http://www.sott.net/article/301353-Hungarian-reporter-fired-after-being-caught-on-video-kicking-and-tripping-refugee-children

The story is also being discussed on the forum here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39296.0.html

Thank you Heimdallr, obviously I missed both, topic and Sott text. :/

PS: At least something good in the whole Laszlo's case:
"Two small opposition parties filed a criminal complaint against Laszlo shortly after the video began circulating on social media Tuesday.
"In the course of the investigation, the authorities will also examine if more serious crimes... can be established," said Sandor Toro, the deputy chief prosecutor of Csongrad county."

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=73131
 
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Laura said:
She has a Facebook page if anybody wants to tell her what they think of her. I just told her she appears to be a psychopath.

_https://www.facebook.com/Petra-Laszlo-120519344968616/timeline/

Scroll down. She apparently thinks it's funny that someone drew a cartoon of her tripping that poor little Syrian baby that washed up on the beach.

ADDED: Just wondered if someone else created that page in her name?

It's seems so, there is a lot of brand new Petra Laszlo profiles, groups and fan-pages on FB.
 

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This person "The Paulstal Service" believes that the refugee crisis is planned, because refugee camps were built in Jordan and Turkey before the conflict began. He also claims that Turkey has played a helpful role in getting the refugees to move on, as seen from the people using the same life vests, many of the same inflatable boats etc. See the youtube, which also has a clip from an interveiw with Assad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=7&v=H0RHFWq8nRQ

If I should critizise the youtube presentation, then I'm not sure one can argue much based on the observation that people use the same life vests or boats. If they had a bit of money, there might as well have been merchants selling stuff at the local store. If one really wishes to know one should ask the people.

Regarding the refugee camps being built before the conflict, there could also have been refugees among people who suffered from a drought:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/science/earth/study-links-syria-conflict-to-drought-caused-by-climate-change.html?_r=0 said:
[...] an extreme drought in Syria between 2006 and 2009 [..]The drought was the worst in the country in modern times, [..]
And
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/is-a-lack-of-water-to-blame-for-the-conflict-in-syria-72513729/?no-ist said:
[..]A 2006 drought pushed Syrian farmers to migrate to urban centers,[...]

The possibility that Turkey might be helpful with getting people to Greece, can not be ruled out, and many refugees probably have a plan to move away form Turkey.
In fact Turkey is not the only one helping people on. For example many refugees have arrived in Denmark, but very few wish to stay; they wish to go the Sweden, which is rumoured to be much, much better. This morning I read on an FB that refugees would not be fined or prosecuted, today, if they wished to cross to Sweden without a ticket.
 
Dirgni said:
I do think that this too many old people has to be fed by too few young people in Germany's future is propaganda of the (local) PTB. We have got a problem in Germany that our pension scheme is set up in a way that the working people are paying the retirees. But this could be solved, I think, when elder people stay healthy and move to not so expensive places. Or when young persons look after older ones and all share funds.

Thanks Dirgni, it did not crossed my mind to think in the PTB aims, it sounded logic at a certain point, I had been listening that for a while.

Laura said:
She has a Facebook page if anybody wants to tell her what they think of her. I just told her she appears to be a psychopath.
The Facebook page is not there anymore or is private ... I do not have a Facebook account, though

Persej said:
And now they are maybe priming the German population? I mean, if they are really just interested in cheap labor why are they preventing the people from Balkan countries to come to live in Germany? They just announced that Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro are also going to be put on the "safe countries" list.

Germany Curbs Balkan Rights to Claim Asylum

Germany on Monday announced that Kosovo, Albania and Montenegro would be classified as “safe countries of origin”, which means that people who come to Germany from those countries will be sent back more quickly, as few will be able to obtain asylum status.
That is like saying that Mexico is a "safe" country, (they should) ask people in ghostly towns due to insecurity -related narco and gangs, what they say about the "safe" way of living. _http://www.ipsnews.net/2015/02/drug-violence-leaves-a-string-of-ghost-towns-in-mexico/
I do not know much about those countries, but it seems to me that the authorities that decide, which are and which are not, are pretty much washing their hands.
 
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