Morgellons: Controversial disease doctors refuse to treat

[dant]

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Just wondered...

If it is a parasite, I wonder if the "zapper" might work. I don't currently have the
link but is may be somewhere in this index perhaps.

 

[Z...]

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Hi Charles
Interesting question
As far as I know Trypanosoma is protozoa which means its a single cell organism with more complex morphology and phisiology then bacteria which are also single celled organisms (in this Protozoa group you wil find amoebas, babesia etc)

Here is close enough definition
(1) the more complex eukaryotic cell is the unit of structure in plants, metazoan animals, protozoa, fungi and algae, and

(2) the less complex prokaryotic cell is the unit of structure in two microbial groups: bacteria and cyanobacteria or blue green bacteria (formerly known as blue green algae).

However this definition doesnt hold water in every single case as there are some organisms that do not fit neatly in either of all the recognized taxonomy groups.

Chlamidia which you also mentioned is an interesting one as it is usualy regarded in a genus of its own displaying characteristics both of bacteria and viruses ( never of a parasite).

It is generally accepted that parasitical diseases are the diseases caused by more advanced organisms both single celled or metazoan.
Tehnically fungi could also be regarded parasitical organisms but diseases caused by them are usualy studied in a separate group and called fungal diseases.

Although parasitical disease are also infectous diseases, the term Infectious Diseases relates to following causal agents:
1. Viral
2. Caused by prions ( prions are recently discovered organisms which have simpler structure then viruses - Kreutzfiel-Jakob Disease and Mad Cows disease causative agent being one of them for example)
3. Bacterial
4. Fungal

while Parasitical diseases are studied on its own.

Re your other thoughts...

-Tickling the receptors could hardly cause crawling sensation under the skin :)

- Parasites and their developmental stadiums can show affinity towards different organs but the parasite that would cause the sking changes and also in the same time would be present in the intestines is unheard of at least to my knowledge.

 

[Pierre]

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If it is a parasite, I wonder if the "zapper" might work. I don't currently have the
link but is may be somewhere in this index perhaps.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=55 (particularly post 3)

 

[Z...]

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I never regarded wikipaedia as totally credible source but what they have to say about this disease is interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

well it seems that medical authorities are finally looking into Morgellons seriously ( the first meeting of comitee asigned to the research of this disease was held only few months ago)

unfortunatelly that doesnt shake off the feeling that something is terribly wrong here

 

[Charles]

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Thank you Deckard for shedding some light on how the term "parasite" is being used within veterinary medicine.

There is some confusion though, as you have stated yourself when one considers organisms that are not always causing an infection, or are unicellular, or are very primitive as is the case with fungal infections. But I have never ever heard of bacteria or viruses being termed parasitic, to that I agree.

- Parasites and their developmental stadiums can show affinity towards different organs but the parasite that would cause the sking changes and also in the same time would be present in the intestines is unheard of at least to my knowledge.

You might be right here when you use the definition of parasite as you have proposed.
However, in Biological Sciences, the class of Oomycetes (every single species even) is considered as parasitic.
And there are several species of the oomycetes class that can cause serious lesions in animals both of the skin (cutaneous) and subcutaneous, but also of the blood vessels AND of the intestinal tract.

A snippet from:
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/51112.htm

Oomycosis is caused by pathogens in the class Oomycetes. These organisms are not true fungi but are aquatic pathogens in the kingdom Stramenopila. They are more closely related to algae than fungi but cause disease that closely resembles zygomycosis ( Zygomycosis). Organisms of significance in veterinary medicine include various species of Saprolegnia and Achyla (eg, S diclina ), which are the common agents of cutaneous disease in fishes; Pythium insidiosum , the cause of a cutaneous and subcutaneous mycosis in horses (bursatti, swamp cancer, leeches), a cutaneous, subcutaneous, and GI disease in dogs, and a cutaneous and paranasal disease of cats; and Lagenidium spp , the cause of cutaneous and systemic lesions and large vessel aneurysms in dogs.

 

[Z...]

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charles when we talk about fungi it is true that they can show affinity to various types of tissues
this why we dont regard them as true parasites, same goes for bacteria and viruses


true parasites on the other hand show remarkable level of specialisation towards different types of tissues and unless they are migrating as the part of their development cycle they are usually specific for certain regions of the body

this is why when talking about parasitical diseases we talk about intestinal parasites, skin parasites, cardiovascular etc.

now you have touched on something important - even after all these years of our "advanced" civilization we have very little understanding of mecahnisms that truely take place during the onsent of illness in human or animal body
After so many years of studing conventional or allopathic medicine and few years of studing homeopathy I still have many questions that need to be answered....

How come that certain organisms coexist peacefully with our body without causing any problems and then in almost the same circumstances (or at least due to some factors that are still totally unknown to us) they can cause severe illnes and even death.

Even Louis Pasteur - the father of modern microbiolgy declared shortly before his death that he might have got it all wrong. He hinted that microorganisms we regard as pathogenic might become such only under the influence of certan factors that are still obscure to the science.

During my homeopathic practice I have witnessed certain miracles that cannot be explained in any way by the available scientific means, knowledge and conceptions.

 

[Charles]

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now you have touched on something important - even after all these years of our "advanced" civilization we have very little understanding of mecahnisms that truely take place during the onsent of illness in human or animal body
After so many years of studing conventional or allopathic medicine and few years of studing homeopathy I still have many questions that need to be answered....

How come that certain organisms coexist peacefully with our body without causing any problems and then in almost the same circumstances (or at least due to some factors that are still totally unknown to us) they can cause severe illnes and even death.

I also have come to a more nuanced idea about "pathogenesis". There are some mechanisms that are partially understood, and I think that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Maybe this is partly due to the fact that medicine, and related sciences, has learned most things from looking at diseased states, and not so much from looking at healthy states wherein many interdependent processes, some of them being incredibly subtle and finely tuned have found a certain equilibrium. It is also much easier of course to find a simple cause and effect relation in a diseased state as to decipher the intricate web of interdependencies in a healthy state.
For instance, our unbridled use of antibiotics (usually even broad spectrum) kills all bacteria in our system, in our intestinal tract, and on our skin. Also the good ones are killed, those that prevent the bad ones from getting a niche within our system. You can compare it with an acre of fertile soil, from which every plant, shrub or tree has been removed. What a rich playground for new colonisation. Use of massive herbicides could offer a temporary solution of course, but than will come the resistant ones. In my own small garden I haven't used a single drop of poison, but I make sure that there isn't a single spot of bare soil left.
Acting otherwise in our human system is like asking for MRSA methicilline resistant Staphylococcus aureus, which has not only become resistant but oftentimes also more virulent, as they are used to colonise "bare soil".

A friend is currently participating in a research project with the aim to decipher the mechanism(s) wherein a parasitic nematode that infects plant roots (forming typical giant feeding cells within the root tissue of the host) is able to offer protection to its host against grazing of the foliage, against viral infections, and also results in a generally better vigour and higher yield of the plant.

I know next to nothing about these issues, yet let me state my "working hypothesis" here.
I consider it quite plausible that our bodies "know" the physiology and morphology of the attackers. I consider it quite plausible that our bodies may "know" how to deal with them. But whether our bodies do it or not may depend on many factors. Being busy with dealing with parasites our bodies may have no resources left to deal with some other intruders. If so, then I still see a possibility that getting rid of parasites may have consequences that are "not in the books". In other words, I would not dismiss the idea, unless experiments dismiss it.

Yes I can imagine that there are situations wherein a human body can be that much infested with parasites that the immune system simply can't cope with simple infections any longer or even worse and simply collapses. But these must be very rare OSIT. In our modern world the reverse is actually far closer to the truth. Because of increased hygienic conditions, less infectious diseases, and far less parasites to cope with, our immune systems, being unemployed, start to attack otherwise harmless entities, like certain bacteria, our own tissues, air carried pollen, and dust mites.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1511/is_n9_v14/ai_14390897

Ottesen ought to know--he is head of the Clinical Parasitology Section at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. But Ottesen is not just a parasitologist; he's also an allergist. And that confluence of disciplines is what makes his involvement with the inhabitants of Mauke downright intriguing. Nineteen years ago, when he was 31 and at the start of his dual career, Ottesen made a visit to Mauke to study the prevalence of filarial worms and to begin treating the islanders for infection. Last summer he returned to the island. But this time he didn't just look for parasites; he found himself on the trail of what he suspects may be the source of allergies as well.
"It's an interesting thing," he says. "When we made our first trip to Mauke to check for filarial worms, we also checked for allergies. But it was hard to find anyone who had allergic complaints. Now, almost two decades later, there's much less parasite infection on the island, but the fascinating thing is"--he leans forward and speaks in an insistent stage whisper--"there's so much more allergy." This observation, and similar disclosures from elsewhere in the world, have persuaded Ottesen to consider a provocative possibility--that there's an inverse relationship between allergies and the presence of parasites.
Ottesen isn't the first to suspect such a link, though his combined expertise in parasitology and allergy may make him the best qualified to do so. It's not as odd an idea as it first seems. Both our allergies and our response to parasites are immune system reactions, and both rely on the same rather unusual immune mechanism. Could allergies result when the body's mechanism for getting rid of worms becomes somehow misdirected? "There must be a reason for having the allergic mechanism," Ottesen says. "It probably evolved first to fight parasite infections. But when there are no parasites around, you're left with a honed immune system looking for something to attack. So people who would have been protected against parasites in the jungle are now stuck in New York or someplace where parasites are scarce, and they're wheezing and coughing because of pollen blowing down the street."
If so, it's news to most allergy sufferers, who number approximately 50 million--that's one in five people--in this country alone. Americans spend at least $5 billion a year in an attempt to cope with the seemingly useless affliction. Allergy, as far as most researchers are concerned, is a pointless marshaling of the body's defenses against usually benign intruders. Allergy-causing substances such as pollen surely pose no great threat to our well-being; neither do cat dander and dust mites. Yet contact with such allergens causes millions of us to swell, wheeze, scratch, and sneeze as though under siege. In extreme cases, in reaction to insect stings and certain foods such as peanuts, an overwhelming allergic response, called anaphylactic shock, can even kill the body our immune system is ostensibly protecting.

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Compared with 19 years ago, Ottesen found, there was much less filarial infection on Mauke. Only 16 percent of the population harbored the microscopic worms, as opposed to 35 percent on his first visit. The reduction resulted primarily from treating the islanders with the antiparasite drug diethylcarbamazine, which Ottesen had initiated during his earlier visit. And what about allergies? "There's no question that there was a heck of a lot more allergy out there this time," says Ottesen. "Nineteen years ago barely 3 percent of the people had allergies. This time it was at least 15 percent." The complaints ranged from eczema to hay fever and asthma to food allergies. What's more, the dominant problem was one nobody had even heard of 19 years earlier: octopus allergy. "It's the number one offender," says Ottesen. "People are breaking out in rashes, hives, swelling of the throat. Yet octopus is nothing new to them--they were eating it when we were there before. What's different now?" Ottesen answers his own rhetorical question: perhaps the IgE defense mechanism, no longer occupied with attacking worms, is now going after octopus protein and other new targets.

One more example with more emphasis on hygienic conditions and a general LACK of bacteria in our direct environments as potential cause of all sorts of allergies.

http://www.malaghan.org.nz/aboutus/news/2002/06.05.werefartooclean.htm

The answer to asthma could lie on the carefully wiped tables and scrubbed benches of the ordinary New Zealand home. Paradoxically, many scientists believe the problem is not hidden germs, as most of us would suspect. More likely, they say, it is the lack of them.
The average Western home is a lot cleaner than it was 100 years ago, with thoroughly treated tap water, chemically preserved food and disinfectant cleaners killing germs in kitchens and bathrooms. As a result many children - unlike their great-grandparents - grow up without fighting a constant battle against bacterial diseases. Now a growing number of researchers are exploring the theory that this ruthless suppression of bugs may have contributed to growing rates of asthma, the lung disease suffered by one in six New Zealanders and ranked as our third worst disease (behind depression and anxiety disorders) for its effect on quality of life. The so-called hygiene hypothesis argues that the body's immune system, free of the need to fight bacteria, overreacts to imagined threats from household dust mites and other sources.

With these things said, maybe it becomes understandable why I simply cannot believe the approach (or credo) a la Hulda Clark. She even educates her "patients" how to disinfect their food with hydrochloric acid before eating it !??

 

[Joe]

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From a yahoo health list:

I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally making it disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have experimented with various "super baths," filling the tub with hot water and puttibng in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent, laundry detergent, alcohol, etc....well, one day about four months ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected.

anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed and slid into the water for a soak.

Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!!!!!!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things "dissolving" in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water! They were the cause of the migration of all things morgellon out of my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks, black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY TOHER TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a research lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at least know some relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to his long-suffering Mommy!

I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally can only be a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the difference in the world for me.

I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the migration of the specks.

 

[Mr. Premise]

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Wow. Alfalfa. Just like the C's hinted.

 

[BrandyTwirl]

Was Morgellons released into our environment deliberately or by accide

Was Morgellons released into our environment deliberately or by accident? If by accident, then our government leaders and scientists have let us down by not having sufficient safeguards in place to protect the human race.

On the other hand, if Morgellons was released deliberately, then what is the ultimate purpose? Preliminary research indicates that Morgellons is a nano-machine, capable of creating hideous new life forms based upon the DNA it comes in contact with. These creatures create incredible pain and suffering in it's victims; symptoms include chronic fatigue, 'brain fog', intense pain deep within the body's joints and bones, depression, surface lesions with multi colored fibers growing out of them and a complete compromise of the body's immune system, allowing various infections to reek havoc upon the victim.

But what is the ultimate purpose of Morgellons? These self-replicating devices have abilities not yet known by scientists. One thing is for sure; it took BILLIONS of dollars to create this invader and that means a very large defense contractor must have been involved, but to what end?

Evidence shows that there is a viral nano video camera imbedded in some of the blue fibers growing out of the lesions of victims. But to whom are images transmitted to and why? Who is in control of these machines? Is the purpose to control people, monitor them or 'see' what they see?

These nano-machines are in the air we breathe and therefore in the water and food supply across the earth. That means that everyone is exposed and possibly infected. It appears that Morgellons is highly contagious as well.

So where do we go from here? Are we to continue to wait while the CDC 'gets it's act together 'and finally begins it's investigations? How long will that take? How many people are currently symptomatic and how long does it take , once exposed to Morgellons, to become symptomatic? The questions are endless. To date, there has not been an effective treatment found for Morgellons. Victims are self-treating with pesticides, de-wormers, antibiotics, creams, lotions, nutritional supplements and the list is endless. There may be some temporary relief, but nothing seems to effectively treat Morgellons.

The traditional medical community is following the exact path it did when AIDS/HIV and Lyme disease first showed up: they accuse the victims of being delusional and prescribe anti-depressants and anti-psychotics because they are unwilling to conduct proper examinations, primarily because the combined symptoms are "not in the book".

So the Morgellons sufferers become the victims of the medical community, often ridiculed and denied any meaningful support whatsoever. Their wallets are emptied, their families often abandoned them, they loose their jobs, their homes, their cars and their support systems. That is enough to make anyone appear to be delusional.

Apparently the only means of support remaining for Morgellons victims is the Internet; message boards abound with theories, treatment protocols and such, offering some understanding and support from fellow sufferers. Many believe they can mitigate their symptoms by reducing their intake of carbohydrates, taking nutritional supplements and generally boosting their immune system so their body can fight off this foreign invader. The problem is that the invader is so small, the immune system may not be able to ‘notice’ the invader and kick into defend mode to fight off Morgellons. Victims seldom have fevers and other than suicide, there has not yet be any reported deaths attributed to Morgellons.

What will it take for humanity to turn our attention to this emerging pandemic? Perhaps very famous people, such as athletes, politicians, celebrities and government officials will have to become infected before we truly put the resources necessary to discover exactly what Morgellons disease is and how to effectively treat it. In the mean time, individuals, children and entire families will continue to suffer until an effective treatment protocol is found.

Ultimately, there will be some very interesting explanations from whomever is responsible for the release of Morgellons into our environment. Perhaps, there may even be consequences to the people and organizations who released Morgellons, either accidentally or deliberately.

 

[ark]

Was Morgellons released into our environment deliberately or by accide

Evidence shows that there is a viral nano video camera imbedded in some of the blue fibers growing out of the lesions of victims.

If you say "evidence shows", would you be so kind and point out this evidence? Where is it? Who provides this evidence? How reliable this "evidence" is?

To get some balance in the views, you may like to consult this link:

http://morgellonswatch.com/faq/

 

[GRiM]

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Rense will get pissed now :)
I listen to his latest podcast and he said in "03-29-07 - HR1 - Morgellons Special #7 - Dr. Hildegard Staninger, Cliff Mickelson & Jan Smith"
that there are no cures and that if anyone says there is a cure they are lying.

"Jeff Rense Morgellons Special #7
Shocking Research - Nanotech Machines
Running Wild In The Human Body"

 

[anart]

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Rense will get pissed now :)
I listen to his latest podcast and he said in "03-29-07 - HR1 - Morgellons Special #7 - Dr. Hildegard Staninger, Cliff Mickelson & Jan Smith"
that there are no cures and that if anyone says there is a cure they are lying.

"Jeff Rense Morgellons Special #7
Shocking Research - Nanotech Machines
Running Wild In The Human Body"

Uhmm, isn't it actually, 'if Rense opens his mouth, he is lying'?

;)

 

[ljvh769]

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The Morgellons affliction phenomena, seems to be prevalent in the southwest and high dessert (southern Utah, Nevada and Arizona) region of the US. I am moving to St. George Utah next month and have been in contact with several people who are keeping track of aerosol spraying (chemtrails) that occur in the area. They have also noticed an increase in Morgellons over the past 3 years.

I am new to this phenomena but wonder if it could be related to the particles in the chemtrail residue. I came across Clifford E. Carnicom’s site. www.carnicorn.com/conright.htm, and his reference to this at www.carnicorn.com/morgobs1.htm. It would be interesting to explore this connection.
Ljvh

 

[crazy croc]

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From what I've gathered on this, it seems most probable that morgellons is the result of a manufactured macro-organism designed using nano technology back in the 80's. It was introduced into the environment as a mechanism to break down sewer sludge. Apparently, this began in the southwestern states and the plug was likely pulled once the critters began infiltrating more than sludge. This is based on early cases being found occuring in waste treatment plant workers in those areas who are aware of the original program. I have a suspicion that chemtrails, or at least part of their purpose, could be to introduce a new organism which has been designed to eradicate the original problem. I do believe from what I've seen, it's real and spreading, albeit slowly. My vote is massive corporate mad scientist blunder lobbyed to the greedy politicians of that time.