My Astra Zeneca shots and the effect on me.

[Mari]

In Germany I don't think any job can force someone to take it just yet? They can coerce but not force. So if you sense your job is going in this direction I'd personally look to see where I should put my energy to make it difficult for them to do so i.e. there will be people campaigning against this.

Yes, I´m working on that to find loopholes.

On the flip side, what about the real chance that you take the jab for your job, suffer an injury and them can't work. You say you are the only one working. What happens to the family then?

Yes, I´m aware of that as well...

Let's game it (worst case scenarios) - take the jab to save a single job in 1 industry. If you don't take the jab you lose the job but can always go get another job in another industry but maybe it's less paid. Bottom line you can still work.

I was thinking in the similar lines....

I know and I weight all of above, I still don´t have any pressure for vaccination from anybody, from private or business or government side, so I have time to examine all options and prepare for just in case...

Tnx!

 

[OutSky]

So is that clockwise or counterclockwise? I feel like praying less when I’m stressed out or I lack sleep. Lots of things can interfere with being spiritual. Hang in there!

Clockwise, so from left to right. 99 spins by day. It does not need any rush, may be done slowly until gets some more practice.

Moreover, besides the C's, also the Pleaidians in Bringers of the Dawn (recommended by the C's) by Marciniak, have good details.

 

[Corvus]

There is no avoiding any of these unless people stand up. Battles don't win themselves, they are won by people. That means people are tasked with doing something otherwise nothing gets done. These are the facts.

People have hard time coming to conclusion even here that everything that has been achieved when it comes to little freedom and rights temporarily left is been through blood and fighting, do not know history and do not want to know, especially today and not so much in the past because of today s education and dumbing down. Whole history could have been different if people had some balls, but that is to much to ask for most of humanity knowing the manipulations and human condition. No dignity, no sense for basic justice, no principles just a more or less selfish desire and fear programmed or essential. So the strategy is bare survival and waiting for the changes to balance the field and doing everything to atenuate side effects and what they throw at you, bad position to be in but could it have been any different? Not really. And when it comes to children that is why I did not have any and see it as basic selfish math if you see what is coming years ahead and still have them then you are for a possible rude awakening in near future. You know how the parents and enviroment says why do not have kids, they are so cute and having them run around, and in the past the times were hard, you affraid of responsibility etc...yes I wonder will they have same thinking when you have to bury them yourself when today the situation is economically bad, and response is see I was not thinking about it, no you were not thinking at all.

 

[Zzartemis]

I have a very small membership board of ppl I saw potential in; many are in their early 20s. One young man recently finished school and got 'the job.' He worked hard at school, gaining experience with internships. He announced, last week, that he quit this desired job to avoid the jab. He took a job as a baker....can you imagine his sacrifice? I applauded his decision.

I'd like to offer some food for thought for any who are faced with tough decisions the jab has introduced into our lives. The following is a post I did on my board:

TOWARDS FREEDOM

There's a lot of talk about freedom and loss of freedoms today. But what if I said, "You'll never be free here, that you can only move towards more freedom; and to move towards more freedom, you'll have to give up what you perceive as freedoms?" Many proclaim they want freedom but I ask, "Freedom to do what?" Freedom from paying taxes? Freedom from laws made by men? Freedom to do as you please?

This freedom called out for does not necessarily indicate that one is coming from lofty ideals or from a place of spirit. Because we have many on the planet that do have those freedoms. They are the elite and they do as they please, not paying into society but taking from and they are above the law. In actuality we are moving toward 'God,' and I'm using that name loosely here. The inhabitants of this planet, or realm, are moving through different levels of awareness. One idea of God can differ greatly among divisions of the populace.

In this quest and all other smaller quests for something we are divided. Most are moving through and learning of a herd mentality or collectivism, while another, very small group, has reached the point of individualism....but still with much to learn. The greatest individual is 'God,' and thus represents the greatest form of freedom, or freedom absolute. So, here we are back to one of my opening statements: "You will never be free here, you can only move towards more freedom....."

Now, I will begin to discuss a friend's suggested video. I thank her for this as it helped give form to thoughts I have been receiving. I will quote or paraphrase much of the video owner's words.

We live within a dualistic system. And we are here to master its lessons. Division = to have 2 visions; seeing oneself in a paradoxical situation, where both good and evil are on equal terms. So we know both good and evil as stated biblically. Why does one have to know good and evil? The answer is, so we can make a choice as to where humanity moves toward in the future. Do we move toward more freedom, or more tyranny and oppression? Freedom is an innate internal guidepost, just as goodness is, to withstand and move out of oppression toward more freedom.

The video I will post looks at the global vaccination program as our challenge. Denial of the vax does not necessarily mean one has done THE WORK on themself. That individual may still harbor hate and dualistic tendencies within themselves, ready to take advantage of others for personal gain, filled with ideals of usury and manipulation. To simply be anti-authoritarian does not automatically make one equipped to listen to the eternal and walk the narrow path. These times we are living thru, only offer us a chance for a chance to evolve. What does evolution look like? If we are moving toward 'God,' and we become more Godlike, would God act like one of the crowd?

This is the message I gleaned out of the video. And it brings me once again to my opening statement, "But what if I said, 'You'll never be free here, that you can only move towards more freedom; and to move towards more freedom, you'll have to give up what you perceive as freedoms?' "
Now, on to the video.

*edited for clarity

 

[SOTTREADER]

People have hard time coming to conclusion even here that everything that has been achieved when it comes to little freedom and rights temporarily left is been through blood and fighting, do not know history and do not want to know, especially today and not so much in the past because of today s education and dumbing down. Whole history could have been different if people had some balls, but that is to much to ask for most of humanity knowing the manipulations and human condition. No dignity, no sense for basic justice, no principles just a more or less selfish desire and fear programmed or essential. So the strategy is bare survival and waiting for the changes to balance the field and doing everything to atenuate side effects and what they throw at you, bad position to be in but could it have been any different? Not really. And when it comes to children that is why I did not have any and see it as basic selfish math if you see what is coming years ahead and still have them then you are for a possible rude awakening in near future. You know how the parents and enviroment says why do not have kids, they are so cute and having them run around, and in the past the times were hard, you affraid of responsibility etc...yes I wonder will they have same thinking when you have to bury them yourself when today the situation is economically bad, and response is see I was not thinking about it, no you were not thinking at all.

There's a saying I saw somewhere on the forum I think.

Goes something like "Good times make weak people and bad times make strong people". In the West, we're the beneficiaries of strong people who came before. The wars were fought, the institutions were formed, the laws were written etc. These things didn't happen by themselves, people made them happen.

I think we've reached the peak of the good times and the decay will be driven by the decay within people caused by them having lived so long in the good times. Basic lessons have been forgotten, the hard won battles of the past have been forgotten. The times were so good we even turned against nature. We think ourselves gods now - we can supposedly genetically engineer ourselves, don't need real food, food grown in a lab will do, can change our gender etc etc. Supposedly we've attained this status? Or more likely... we're so far gone into self delusion that disaster is all but assured. It's all very sad if you ask me, especially given how good the times were. It's like winning the lottery and blowing it all away that you end up bankrupt.

If this whole thing doesn't end up in absolute unmitigated disaster I'll need to re-evaluate how I see the world because so many basic rules have been broken that either rules and laws mean absolutely nothing to society and civilization or we're about to find out why they exist in the first place.

 

[XPan]

This is the message I gleaned out of the video. And it brings me once again to my opening statement, "But what if I said, 'You'll never be free here, that you can only move towards more freedom; and to move towards more freedom, you'll have to give up what you perceive as freedoms?' "
Now, on to the video.

*edited for clarity

Incredible video (postcast).

Truly !! It grew more and more on me, the longer I listened - and was strangely easy to comprehend. So profound, once it reaches the depths from within.

Wow - thank you for the link and your friend who gave it to you, Zzartemis - and now to everyone who wants to listen, here in the forum among us!

​

 

[Zzartemis]

There's a saying I saw somewhere on the forum I think.

Goes something like "Good times make weak people and bad times make strong people". In the West, we're the beneficiaries of strong people who came before. The wars were fought, the institutions were formed, the laws were written etc. These things didn't happen by themselves, people made them happen.

A meme for that:

 

[unkl brws]

My husband outright said he didn't care about my free will

I'm sorry you're going through this.

I've been fortunate (so far) that my partner is respecting my choice to not get vaccinated. She has already had one dose of the Pfizer vaccine and is set to have her second in August. Her family has been trying to plan a trip to Disney World in Florida since early March 2020. The trip has been cancelled two more times since then and they're planning for November of this year. I believe most of her family has at least one if not two doses already and its mainly to be able to travel. I'm the only holdout. She asked if I wanted to get the jabs to be able to travel and I said no and told her that I don't believe it is necessary because the majority of people have been vaccinated, cases are rapidly declining, and restrictions are easing. I also said I haven't even had a flu vaccine for twenty years and have not had the flu in that amount of time (surprise, surprise). I was calm and firm about my decision and said "Look, things can change in the future and I may have to get it if I want to be able to leave the house. But, for right now I'm not." She said "I'll support you on whatever you decide". I told her that I support her in getting the vaccine (I'm supporting her free will actually, but a part of me is dying inside because of what may happen in the future). Anyway, that's where I am at the moment.

I hope things turn out better for you.

 

[Wandering Star]

I think we have a tendency to think of the worst outcome, death. I'm no parent but if I was, I wouldn't let my kids get jabbed. There will be consequences to that decision when the gene based jabs finally come for the kids. First of all, it makes tactical sense to stand up against the jab coming for you because if it can't make it past you it won't make it to the kids. When adults surrendered themselves, they opened up their kids to the wolves. Now the kids are in danger.

What does it mean for you to stand up for your kids? When you say no to them getting jabbed what will be the consequences? How will you face the consequences?

We're living in a historical moment where we will all be forced to step outside our comfort zone and make a decision either way. If others around you succumb, the jab will be at your doorstep before you can even blink. If you succumb, it'll be at someone else's doorstep once they've been through you. It isn't even the jab itself, it's everything else that comes with it.

What does it mean to protect kids? Is it just to protect them today but to also protect them tomorrow? Do we want a future where our kids are forced to be transhuman or where they don't have bodily autonomy?

There is no avoiding any of these unless people stand up. Battles don't win themselves, they are won by people. That means people are tasked with doing something otherwise nothing gets done. These are the facts.

However, you will not really understand it until you are the father of a child.

As much as you read about riding a bicycle, you will not know how to ride a bicycle.

 

[Tuulikki]

My husband and the mother in law were the worst it was like a switch went off somewhere when I said I wasn't having it and they literally turned from loving kind people into the most spiteful nasty and bullying people I'd ever known. My husband outright said he didn't care about my free will and I was having it or he'll divorce me.

It is always difficult to make any judgements about other folks relationships. My first thought was "let him have the divorce. I will be better off without such a bigoted idiot with a nasty mother." However, we do not know all the nuances of the relationships and what has gone before, so snap judgements cannot be made. Only you know if you were happy in your marriage normally before the advent of the Covid madness. Personally I think the pair sound as if they are totally scared of contracting covid and possibly dying and are viewing any unvaccinated person as the devil incarnate. It seems you had to get the jab for them to relax and feel comfortable. This is not a situation which would ever resonate with me but I can almost have a smidgeon of sympathy with a couple of people who have been so drawn into the mire of fear surrounding the virus that common sense and kindness have gone out of the window. Frightened people tend to lash out, even to their loved ones.

I hope the way forward presents itself clearly to you but remember it is your free will to make your decisions - no one else's.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Let's game it (worst case scenarios) - take the jab to save a single job in 1 industry. If you don't take the jab you lose the job but can always go get another job in another industry but maybe it's less paid. Bottom line you can still work.

This, I think, will be more and more difficult as we go forward. All jobs will require the "Jab". They are on a roll with this and will tighten the screws at every opportunity and shows the nature of the beast.

 

[SOTTREADER]

This, I think, will be more and more difficult as we go forward. All jobs will require the "Jab". They are on a roll with this and will tighten the screws at every opportunity and shows the nature of the beast.

Thankfully we have what are called "rights" and also "informed consent" which won't be easy to tear down overnight. In the US because they gave up ground in places like healthcare with things like flu jab, they now have a hard time fighting against the covid jab being mandated in such places. The precedent was set before by things like the flu jab. You see, this is the problem, you give a little they will eventually take the lot. If they fought tooth and nail so that the flu jab and others could not be mandated in hospitals in the States then they'd have an easier time now fighting for their rights with regard mandates in hospitals.

In this same way, if we lose the battle now, we will pay more dearly in future and so will the kids of today.

In the UK there are no mandates in hospitals or old people's home just yet. There are threats but no actual mandates. The resistance to mandates here is strong. The laws and rights that were hard won before will not be easily torn down overnight.

 

[Jebra]

Many thanks for your kind replies. I'm touched! Sadly hindsight is a great thing and I should have seen all the warning signs before I got married but no I didn't. Basically I have married into an old and poor working class military family with all the associated problems. The other big problem here is that where I live there are RAF bases everywhere so everyone is fully onboard with whatever the government says. But then again I suspect that (and I know this sounds a bit crazy) an evil spell has been cast over everyone and they are mesmerised by it. I think only cosmic changes can now break that spell certainly in the UK at least.

And Sottreader... I wish there were more people like you in the UK right now. You're very strong. Stay strong!

 

[SOTTREADER]

And Sottreader... I wish there were more people like you in the UK right now. You're very strong. Stay strong!

Haha, thanks Jebra, very kind. In all honesty, I just don't want to be food to those who will consume us. Zero trust on the movers and shakers that say we need a jab. They are the most despicable people and it's a big fat no from me in terms of serving myself up on the platter for consumption.

Also I think spiritually we may all be unwittingly making decisions that will govern how we experience the next 300k years worth of incarnations. I don't particularly fancy re-doing the lessons or landing in a 4D STS infested world. In the end, it's kind of self driven motivations to try and stay strong in this moment. I truly do think there's a war going on and it's being fought through the choices we make.

But anyways, I wish you all the best and remember, there is nothing that inhibits you from being strong. You have as much right to make a choice as anyone else and you should really fight for your soul and integrity as a living Being.

 

[Kay Kim]

Also I think spiritually we may all be unwittingly making decisions that will govern how we experience the next 300k years worth of incarnations. I don't particularly fancy re-doing the lessons or landing in a 4D STS infested world. In the end, it's kind of self driven motivations to try and stay strong in this moment. I truly do think there's a war going on and it's being fought through the choices we make.

Yes I have made my mind too, I will never obey or give permission to take the vaccine. No matter what.
And I found transcripts about “obey” is related to the one’s “permission” and that’s related to the one’s “choice”.

October 14, 1995

Q: (L) In other words, we're really getting tired here. I do have an idea about that. Is there not something internal that prevents them from going too far during an abduction, i.e. like maybe, if you want to call it that, a guardian angel or protective energy, and then they try to put an implant in, and then create a situation where they can bypass that...
Oh, I know! Is this what Michael Topper was writing about in his article, "Channels and the Positive/Negative," where he talks about the "obedience factor" of the STS? If they can get you to obey something, you have given your permission.

A: Close.

5 August 2017

A: 3D is the most difficult due to presence of potential balance of consciousness and matter and thus duality.

Q: (Data) And the difficult part is choice. Is that correct?

A: Yes.

July 30, 1994

Q: (L) Are we chosen?
A: What is chosen? Only you can choose. The choice comes by nature and free will and looking and listening. Where you are is not important. Who you are is and also what you see.

11 January 1997

Q: (Terry) Is there anything that he can do that he can do to get out of being misled?

A: Choice.

Q: (Laura) It's his choice to be misled. You choose to believe what's the physical reality that you believe in, or you choose to believe the ethereal reality by faith, it's his choice.

Q: (Terry) What does J need to do?

A: Purge and begin anew.

77.16 Questioner: The Choice, is why this choice is so important, why the Logos, it seems, puts so much emphasis on this choice, and what function that choice of polarity is, precisely, in the evolution or the experience of that which is created by the Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. The polarization or choosing of each mind/body/spirit is necessary for harvestability from third density. The higher densities do their work due to the polarity gained in this choice.

78.21 Questioner: You stated previously that The Choice that is made in this density, third density, is the axis upon which the creation turns. Could you expand on your reason for making that statement?
Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement of the nature of creation as we speak to you.