My Astra Zeneca shots and the effect on me.

[Pluchi]

Oh do you mean if you have to take it for the job?

I'd ask a few questions first. Does your job require this jab? In Germany I don't think any job can force someone to take it just yet? They can coerce but not force. So if you sense your job is going in this direction I'd personally look to see where I should put my energy to make it difficult for them to do so i.e. there will be people campaigning against this.

On the flip side, what about the real chance that you take the jab for your job, suffer an injury and them can't work. You say you are the only one working. What happens to the family then?

Let's game it (worst case scenarios) - take the jab to save a single job in 1 industry. If you don't take the jab you lose the job but can always go get another job in another industry but maybe it's less paid. Bottom line you can still work.

Take the jab and suffer an injury that stops you being a capable worker. Now you can't work any job in any industry. You now live off government support.

Do we have reassurances that one won't suffer bad injuries? I know I'm seeing people who are a-okay but I'm also seeing people who are not. So suffering an injury either immediately or down the line isn't a possibility to be scoffed at which means one should consider this as a viable possible outcome.

With the above mind, the second scenario doesn't look too appealing to me . From a tactical perspective I'd much rather take the hit of working a low paid job and put effort into the resistance for a chance of a better future than get jib jab for a well paid job but then open myself up to all these other nightmarish possibilities. Just gaming the numbers and taking a risk based approach.

Hello!
I have been playing the worst case scenarios that you just mentioned in my head! I teach, my school is pushing everyone to take the vaccine in verious ways, for instance, they have said: "Put your names in the Google form if you have been fully vaccinated, no worries, only a few people can see this document and it is private information [how can that be, right?], all fully vaccinated people can remove their masks and interact when students are not around, if we see unvaccinated people without a mask they will get scorned" " The end of year party is only for fully vaccinated people" "We will follow the same protocol as universities next school year, stay tuned, in the mean time we encourage teachers and staff to get fully vaccinated, we are at 85% and wish to have a school of 100% vaccinated people" "We are celebrating that kids will probably be able to get vaccinated soon, this will create a safe environment for all"

I am the one with the financial burden at home, I fear losing my job if I don't get vaccinated, so I am contemplating looking for something else to do. I have worked so hard to be where I am now, with two post-graduate degrees and years of experience in my field; contemplating a change in another field is very stressful. Getting the vaccine to stay at my current school puts me at risk of being injured in the long run, hence, being unable to support my family anyway! I understand then that I should take the risk-based approach that you mentioned, and just get another job, yet, other places might also require the vaccines later on. What if jumping from job to job is fruitless despite all the effort? Starting my own business is not a guarantee of a roof and food to eat with the current state of the economy. THEY (you know, "they"as obscure as it sounds) know this, that is why they are closing on people. I am hanging in there, waiting to see what my school decides to impose, but then what will I do? I come to this forum to read what people have done and how they fare.

 

[cope]

Hello!
I have been playing the worst case scenarios that you just mentioned in my head!//. I am hanging in there, waiting to see what my school decides to impose, but then what will I do? I come to this forum to read what people have done and how they fare.

So, if its private information they have no business asking for, why you feel compelled to say the truth?

 

[Zzartemis]

I am the one with the financial burden at home, I fear losing my job if I don't get vaccinated, so I am contemplating looking for something else to do. I have worked so hard to be where I am now, with two post-graduate degrees and years of experience in my field; contemplating a change in another field is very stressful. Getting the vaccine to stay at my current school puts me at risk of being injured in the long run, hence, being unable to support my family anyway! I understand then that I should take the risk-based approach that you mentioned, and just get another job, yet, other places might also require the vaccines later on. What if jumping from job to job is fruitless despite all the effort? Starting my own business is not a guarantee of a roof and food to eat with the current state of the economy. THEY (you know, "they"as obscure as it sounds) know this, that is why they are closing on people. I am hanging in there, waiting to see what my school decides to impose, but then what will I do? I come to this forum to read what people have done and how they fare.

I'm going to speak from a voice of authority( meaning experience) that many here don't have.

I made similar choices years ago for similar reasons but without the life/death potential. I guess I am more psychologically prepared than many. I have been living from the seat of my pants for almost 30 years; all starting from choices made where I didn't know how it would work out. I have a very large belief that the universe will not let me fall flat on my ass. It has proven this time and time again to me, sometimes with needed relief of different types coming in at the last minute. I also made due without a lot of things ppl take for granted....so not saying it was easy. I made these choices for how my small son and I would live and some before that.

I was a microbiologist and took jobs cleaning houses, waitressing, doing odd jobs for people, selling herbs and making medicine from, anything to bring in cash. I got over any Pride I had left in my career. @Pluchi I'll tell you what I might do under your circumstances, take what you will from it. I would keep going in my job, putting up with any shaming or pressure put upon me for not taking the vax. I would wait it out and see if they fire me; if you get laid off collect unemployment and any services you might qualify for. In the meantime, advertise 4 jobs as a teacher or tutor 2 families who do not want to vaccinate their families. There are a lot of people pulling their kids out of school for this reason; perhaps you could capitalize on this. I took jobs that paid under the table. My son has given up his career as a chef and is learning all types of skills with a handyman. He takes work where he can get it. We live together and I put as much as I can of any money he brings in aside. I spend on things for survival when SHTF....like a woodburning stove his boss has, new for $50. And we have been stocking food and items.

Also, review your savings and stop spending money now. Look for services you can cut out that you don't need like TV. Review your heating bills and get on a budget if you aren't already. If you have teenagers, perhaps they could babysit for families who don't want to vaccinate. If this is possible, tell your children that they may have to contribute to the household. If you have a fancy car with a big monthly payment, consider trading it in for one you own outright also reducing your insurance rates.

Other things to do if money gets tight, downsizing your housing, move in with other family members who feel the same as you and sharing living quarters and expenses. If not family perhaps there are friends.

I realize these are extreme measures, but we live in days where we are being forced to make choices never thought of. What good will career titles and styles of living matter when the cataclysms begin in earnest? What good are they if the reports of injury or death from the vaccines are true? Also haven't we gathered together discussing and working on increasing our potential towards 4D? I am reminded here of the saying, "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven."

All I've said here is what I was pointing to in this post and video.

My Astra Zeneca shots and the effect on me.

In Germany I don't think any job can force someone to take it just yet? They can coerce but not force. So if you sense your job is going in this direction I'd personally look to see where I should put my energy to make it difficult for them to do so i.e. there will be people campaigning against...

cassiopaea.org

 

[SOTTREADER]

Hello!
I have been playing the worst case scenarios that you just mentioned in my head! I teach, my school is pushing everyone to take the vaccine in verious ways, for instance, they have said: "Put your names in the Google form if you have been fully vaccinated, no worries, only a few people can see this document and it is private information [how can that be, right?], all fully vaccinated people can remove their masks and interact when students are not around, if we see unvaccinated people without a mask they will get scorned" " The end of year party is only for fully vaccinated people" "We will follow the same protocol as universities next school year, stay tuned, in the mean time we encourage teachers and staff to get fully vaccinated, we are at 85% and wish to have a school of 100% vaccinated people" "We are celebrating that kids will probably be able to get vaccinated soon, this will create a safe environment for all"

I am the one with the financial burden at home, I fear losing my job if I don't get vaccinated, so I am contemplating looking for something else to do. I have worked so hard to be where I am now, with two post-graduate degrees and years of experience in my field; contemplating a change in another field is very stressful. Getting the vaccine to stay at my current school puts me at risk of being injured in the long run, hence, being unable to support my family anyway! I understand then that I should take the risk-based approach that you mentioned, and just get another job, yet, other places might also require the vaccines later on. What if jumping from job to job is fruitless despite all the effort? Starting my own business is not a guarantee of a roof and food to eat with the current state of the economy. THEY (you know, "they"as obscure as it sounds) know this, that is why they are closing on people. I am hanging in there, waiting to see what my school decides to impose, but then what will I do? I come to this forum to read what people have done and how they fare.

Hey Pluchi - okay, this is the beauty of networking. Let's game out the situation you face and see what is the most reasonable option to take and why.

First things first, we need to understand if the country you live in and the school in question can legally force you to take the jab and if you don't you lose the job. Is the situation so black and white or is it a question of a lot of pressure being applied and having to endure psychological pain of being the odd one out? There are 2 things here from a practical point of view - in one case, if it is mandatory then you will have a defined window after which you know you won't have a job unless you get jabbed. If not mandatory then the window is longer and perhaps without a deadline i.e. ultimately you keep the job. So which is it?

Okay, the other thing to factor in is your health. How highly do you value your health? Imagine you took jab and you end up in a bad situation health-wise, would you wish you didn't? Basically, is your health more important than your current job?

Okay, another thing - what is the real reason for taking jab. Is it to keep job or is it because of covid? Medical intervention usually is because you want to avoid a disease.

Another one, if in a year's time they come out and say it wasn't right what they are doing in coercing people to get jab, will you feel cheated if you got the jab? Spain for example today announced the lockdown last year was unconstitutional and all those who were fined for breaking the rules can claim their money back.

Covid: Spain's top court rules lockdown unconstitutional

People fined for breaking lockdown rules will now be able to reclaim their money, the top court says.

www.bbc.co.uk

So if you get jabbed because of the pressure and in a year they come and say actually you didn't have to get jabbed to keep your job, will you feel cheated or bad? Unlike a fine which you can reclaim, you can't ask to be unvaccinated.

Are you looking in the job market to see what other opportunities are out there in your field? Have you updated your CV? Have you gauged if your school can afford to lose staff?

Did you have covid? If yes, you can make a very reasonable argument why you don't need a jab.

Can you claim religious exemption?

From what you've said it doesn't sound like you're in a position where there aren't options. Accept no matter what you do, psychological discomfort is guaranteed. So stop worrying and trying to run away from the psychological discomfort. It's guranteed regardless of whether you turn left, right or do nothing. You take the jab you'll worry endlessly about your health from now until forever, you don't take it you'll worry about being the odd one out, you stay on the fence you'll worry you need to do something. Look beyond the worry and discern the choices you have. Stay true to yourself and your principles, be a warrior and walk the path of a warrior. Be proud to be the odd one out - you'll have a good story to tell in the future. Embrace the hero's path - it's not an easy path to take. It's full of danger and uncertainty but it's also a path that promises glory, the kind of glory that will propel you to new possibilities and possibly, to even new worlds!

 

[Alejo]

Hello!
It is true that our bodies are not all that we have in us to carry on, but there is a reason we are in these bodies. We need them to live through our experiences, learn from them, and evolve. The possible disconnection caused by vaccines interferes with our development and "graduation" to other levels of existence. I am glad that there are protocols people can follow to minimize the damage but imagine the extra effort that people have to make in order to stay afloat when things are already difficult as they are.

I agree, I don't think we should do anything to harm our ability to experience a life fully. And if we can, we ought to try to be in as good a shape as possible. But at the same time, we ought to have faith in what we do, if we follow a protocol, and on who we are, that is, beings that have the ability to withstand terrible injuries and still live plentifully.

Perhaps a good way to say it would be, I think we ought to be cautious about vaccines, but not afraid of them per se. I hope this makes sense.

 

[aragorn]

I'm going to speak from a voice of authority( meaning experience) that many here don't have.

Sorry, but that appears to me as a quite bold statement to make. How would you know that your statement is valid?

 

[Zzartemis]

Sorry, but that appears to me as a quite bold statement to make. How would you know that your statement is valid?

I'll leave it as it stands.

 

[Keyhole]

I'll leave it as it stands.

Well, it is generally considered good manners to answer a question when it is asked of you, which you have not done.

I'm going to speak from a voice of authority( meaning experience) that many here don't have.

If you can be specific, what exactly makes you an authority on this topic?

 

[Zzartemis]

you can be specific, what exactly makes you an authority on this topic?

I think I explained that in my post.....On one's life...leaving behind the life you know....to jump into the unknowing of once you make your choice. Pluchi was going over possibly leaving career behind, less money, supporting a family.
I offered 30 years after of living with my choices on that...without going into all the details of my life.

 

[Pluchi]

I'm going to speak from a voice of authority( meaning experience) that many here don't have.

I made similar choices years ago for similar reasons but without the life/death potential. I guess I am more psychologically prepared than many. I have been living from the seat of my pants for almost 30 years; all starting from choices made where I didn't know how it would work out. I have a very large belief that the universe will not let me fall flat on my ass. It has proven this time and time again to me, sometimes with needed relief of different types coming in at the last minute. I also made due without a lot of things ppl take for granted....so not saying it was easy. I made these choices for how my small son and I would live and some before that.

I was a microbiologist and took jobs cleaning houses, waitressing, doing odd jobs for people, selling herbs and making medicine from, anything to bring in cash. I got over any Pride I had left in my career. @Pluchi I'll tell you what I might do under your circumstances, take what you will from it. I would keep going in my job, putting up with any shaming or pressure put upon me for not taking the vax. I would wait it out and see if they fire me; if you get laid off collect unemployment and any services you might qualify for. In the meantime, advertise 4 jobs as a teacher or tutor 2 families who do not want to vaccinate their families. There are a lot of people pulling their kids out of school for this reason; perhaps you could capitalize on this. I took jobs that paid under the table. My son has given up his career as a chef and is learning all types of skills with a handyman. He takes work where he can get it. We live together and I put as much as I can of any money he brings in aside. I spend on things for survival when SHTF....like a woodburning stove his boss has, new for $50. And we have been stocking food and items.

Also, review your savings and stop spending money now. Look for services you can cut out that you don't need like TV. Review your heating bills and get on a budget if you aren't already. If you have teenagers, perhaps they could babysit for families who don't want to vaccinate. If this is possible, tell your children that they may have to contribute to the household. If you have a fancy car with a big monthly payment, consider trading it in for one you own outright also reducing your insurance rates.

Other things to do if money gets tight, downsizing your housing, move in with other family members who feel the same as you and sharing living quarters and expenses. If not family perhaps there are friends.

I realize these are extreme measures, but we live in days where we are being forced to make choices never thought of. What good will career titles and styles of living matter when the cataclysms begin in earnest? What good are they if the reports of injury or death from the vaccines are true? Also haven't we gathered together discussing and working on increasing our potential towards 4D? I am reminded here of the saying, "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven."

All I've said here is what I was pointing to in this post and video.

My Astra Zeneca shots and the effect on me.

In Germany I don't think any job can force someone to take it just yet? They can coerce but not force. So if you sense your job is going in this direction I'd personally look to see where I should put my energy to make it difficult for them to do so i.e. there will be people campaigning against...

cassiopaea.org

Hello Zzartemis,
Thank you for sharing your experience with regard to this matter. It is a scary thought to leave all I have worked for behind and find new ways. It is maybe just another lesson as well. Also, thank you for the video, it certainly helps with reconnecting and finding freedom absolute.

 

[iamthatis]

This. Sorry to say, but I will never ever ever take that evil, because if I would feel like that I would probably freak out and start breaking people who injected that thing into me. They wouldn't get far because I would need to make sure that they feel the same pain as I do. I have a very hard time forgetting when someone does me something wrong or insulting, I am fully capable of holding a grudge for over 20 years, and would still gladly today punch in the face some people that wronged me a few decades ago.

So for me, no matter what, NO, NO and NO. Good luck to you all who did take it, but my stance is clear, death in self-defence is much preferable to that satan's juice. I wont take it when the end of times come, I wont take it when hell freezes over, I wont take it ANYTIME.

No job, food, anything is worth it to make myself die slowly from that poison. Id much rather die a free man, pointing my both middle fingers in salute to the Man from the elites, as for them to fully appreciate my salute!

Anger can be healthy and it can be unhealthy. You're clearly running an anger program. Or it's running you. Holding on to negative emotions for decades, threats of violence... taken all together, does this look healthy to you?

I can respect your firm decision to not get vaccinated. However, the way you express that decision looks like its coming from unprocessed trauma.

Anger can be a reaction to the world not being the way you want it to be - stemming from self-importance, and wishful thinking. Violence weaponizes the illusion, giving a false sense of power. And believe you me, I've been there, back when I was a teenage antifa goon.

So, thank you for sharing what you did. Your post above could actually be some seriously awesome study material for your current lesson plan. If you haven't already, you might start a thread in the swamp about it, if you feel like sharing more and exploring this with the network.

I realize that it's a difficult time for us humans on the BBM. A lot of people can feel the 'snare of the fowler' tightening around their necks. But the thing about a hunting snare is that the more violently you move against it, the faster and tighter it closes its loop. In such a scenario, it is of life-saving importance to stop, breathe, and take stock of both oneself and the situation before making the next move.

 

[iamthatis]

Hello Zzartemis,
Thank you for sharing your experience with regard to this matter. It is a scary thought to leave all I have worked for behind and find new ways. It is maybe just another lesson as well. Also, thank you for the video, it certainly helps with reconnecting and finding freedom absolute.

One thing to add, @Pluchi - the way in which we do something affects the outcome. Doing something without anticipation means to act in Faith.

There is a new story I recall from years ago. An entomologist was studying bees. She found something fascinating. The local bees, when approaching a closed flower, would land and patiently vibrate (or sing, if ya wanna get all poetic about it) until the flower opened, allowing them to collect the nectar inside. The introduced honeybees, however, would land, tear the flower open, and take the nectar.

There's something to this that you may find useful in terms of understanding Faith and Frequency Resonance Vibration - not forcing, not giving up, but patiently and diligently vibrating until the flower of your life opens.

Enjoy the nectar when you find it, eh?

 

[Pluchi]

One thing to add, @Pluchi - the way in which we do something affects the outcome. Doing something without anticipation means to act in Faith.

There is a new story I recall from years ago. An entomologist was studying bees. She found something fascinating. The local bees, when approaching a closed flower, would land and patiently vibrate (or sing, if ya wanna get all poetic about it) until the flower opened, allowing them to collect the nectar inside. The introduced honeybees, however, would land, tear the flower open, and take the nectar.

There's something to this that you may find useful in terms of understanding Faith and Frequency Resonance Vibration - not forcing, not giving up, but patiently and diligently vibrating until the flower of your life opens.

Enjoy the nectar when you find it, eh?

Hello, @iamthatis!
What a kind comment and great metaphor you've shared (vibrating until the flower of [one's] life opens)! Anticipation is my pitfall. The gift of no anticipation stuck in my mind while reading The Wave and I occasionally use it as a reminder to myself to calm down and let it be. I appreciate your bringing it up.

 

[iamthatis]

Hello, @iamthatis!
What a kind comment and great metaphor you've shared (vibrating until the flower of [one's] life opens)! Anticipation is my pitfall. The gift of no anticipation stuck in my mind while reading The Wave and I occasionally use it as a reminder to myself to calm down and let it be. I appreciate your bringing it up.

What is your favourite flower?

 

[Nienna]

I'm going to speak from a voice of authority( meaning experience) that many here don't have.

This statement may be true, but it is, also, condescending. You could have just written the first part saying that you write from having experience in these matters and left it at that. But, you had to continue and say the many of us here don't have this experience as if putting down those who may not have had these experiences.

Can you see how that is? It also tends to make you look a bit arrogant, don't you think?