Hello ,,Nicklebleu,, ; (Pozdrav ,,Nicklebleu,,)
The text that follows is a translation from Serbian into English, a Google translation
(Tekst koji slijedi je prevod sa srpskog jezika na engleski, Gugl prevod)
Excerpts from the post #113 ; (Izvodi iz posta #113)
Quote 1 - En
The concept of the ‘original sin’ never really made a lot of sense to me. What’s wrong with knowledge? And if it was a ‘forbidden fruit’, why the hell did God (omnipotent, omniscient) put the damn tree in the Garden of Eden in the first place?
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Citat 1 - Sr
Koncept 'izvornog grijeha' nikada mi nije imao puno smisla. Šta nije u redu sa znanjem? A ako je to bilo 'zabranjeno voće', zašto je Bog (svemoćni, svemogući) stavio prokleto drvo u Edensku baštu na prvo mjesto?
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Quote 2 - En
So it was enough for one person (Eve) to get us humans all kicked out of the Garden of Eden (the fall), but it is the action of one person again that will liberate all of humankind.
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Citat 2 - Sr
Dakle, bilo je dovoljno samo jednoj osobi (Eva) da nas sve ljude izbaci iz rajskog vrta (pad), ali akcija čovjeka će ponovo osloboditi cijelo čovječanstvo.
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To Nicklebleu, my recommendation, read the comment below, can help you a great deal in understanding the issue at hand as well as addressing other concerns.
The text was written to you because others do not read my texts.
You are a smart person, you have the capacity to turn into knowledge, I think I told you more.
Having a lot of information and not translating it into a form of knowledge puts you in a situation where you are not sufficiently aware of the facts.
Which is why I said you were a smart person, here's why, bolded in a copy of a quote from your text.
"The concept of the 'original sin' has never really made a lot of sense to me. What's wrong with knowledge? And if it was a 'forbidden fruit', why the hell did God (omnipotent, omniscient) put the damn tree in the Garden of Eden in the first place? ,,
Not only is the concept of original sin not meaningful, it is not true at all.
I will briefly explain where you can find the answers to these concerns.
The big difference is between Heaven and Garden of Eden or Eden, both temporally and spatially.
Paradise, a term used by humans for space and time when they were living on a high stage of development, and this is the second dimension of our universe, it is the highest dimension that can be reached by beings who have consciousness.
The reason that led to the fall from another dimension is not Eve, because she did not even exist at the time, it is a reason of a different nature, it is much more complicated to explain, where I should write a lot.
The dimensions of the Universe according to the criteria that are important for the progress of Conscious Being.
The first dimension is the zero dimension, it is the space within the Unique Field of the Universe, which can be defined as the Central Universe or the Central Universe, it is the space where God the Creator of the Universe resides.
The Central Universe is located approximately in the center of the Universe Field of the Universe.
This space is separated by a barrier from the Unique Field of the Universe, separated in all segments, it has no influence on the Unique Field of the Universe.
There is only one portal, the communication passage, through which God the Creator of the Universe monitors how the Unique Field of the Universe works.
Everything that happens in our Universe is accompanied by appropriate intelligent energies and corrects irregularities, these energies have the power of influence within the Unique Field of the Universe, they have no influence on the Central Universe, they have no access there.
The first dimension of the Universe is space. The Unique Field of the Universe, that space, that is, that dimension is made up of energies only, there is no Being who has consciousness.
Within the space of the Unique Field of the Universe, the following dimensions have been created that inhabit the beings who have the world.
The first in hierarchy is the second dimension, it is the highest above it to us the dimensions in which are living beings who have consciousness.
On another dimension, the human species existed, which is what they call in paradise paradise.
To explain the reasons why there has been a fall from the second dimension to the thirteenth dimension, which is the lower boundary of being Conscious beings, it takes a lot of writing and reasoning, you don't need it now.
Below the thirteenth dimension is the fourteenth dimension where beings who have no consciousness reside.
To repeat for the fall from another dimension Eve was not responsible because she did not exist at that time, about 10% of the planet's inhabitants are responsible for the fall, which was the critical mass that can make decisions on behalf of the entire planet.
So the story of Lucifer is totally distorted, about 10% of the planet's then inhabitants are what they call Lucifer.
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Eve and the Garden of Eden, yes Eve was genetically developed in Eden, there was also Adam, the original name of the clone is "Adame".
The story of sin, and the atonement of men for this sin, is, to put it mildly, constructed in order to attach their sins, their ignorance, their laziness to God or Eve.
The Garden of Eden or Eden was the place where genetic experiments were performed.
Also in that space were the rulers of certain parts of the planet whose original origin is not from this planet.
They conducted genetic experiments in the dark space.
This is where the first clone was developed by combining the genetics of the then inhabitants of this planet and the beings who are not from this planet, it is the first genetic modification of man.
It happened after the fall from another dimension or Paradise, people after the fall from Paradise were at the lowest stage of development in the Universe, in texts treating this matter they are called receiving at a very low stage of development.
All of what I said about Eden and many more in one book, it is the highest selling book on the planet.
And of course, to clarify the type floss, Eve was thrown out of Paradise and followed by other Earth inhabitants, the joke most recounted in our Universe.
Adam and Eve were thrown out of the Garden of Eden or Eden, out of the fenced and well kept space on planet Earth that was very small.
What was the reason they were expelled from Eden, they were forbidden there to have sex, they were experimental models of genetics, they spoiled the job of geneticists.
As for the story of the tree of life and knowledge, it has to do with falling from another dimension it has nothing to do with Eve.
Adam and Eve were at such a stage of development that they would be before them
they put the TV in it, blazing like a calf in a colorful door.
They were not capable of using advanced knowledge.
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If you want to study this issue, from a very competent source, I can open the words to a new topic somewhere.
This book, like some other books, touches on this topic, perhaps even more than the one discussed.
To be able to interpret Paul's texts correctly, you need additional knowledge in a number of fields.
He, Paul, wrote epistles for laymen, a common people where the phrase, "trust me in the word," is often used ... ... if he wrote his thoughts the way I would write it, then they would declare him insane because he wrote that way.
Paul knew that a human being cannot die, a human being is immortal.
He was not allowed to write it, so he explained it in close analogies.
Paul talked about dying or death, which is desirable for every human being, because as they progress to higher levels, he talked about the death of the physical body, not the death of the Being.
When you reach the level of death of all the bodies you have, then you have reached perfection in progress.
You have seven basic bodies plus light, which is optional, you also have a total of 49 bodies, you need to develop those seven bodies to the point where you no longer need them, to die, then you progress.
Since this is impossible to achieve in one incarnation, it is one of the reasons that you go back to incarnation to replace it.
So you need solid knowledge of the seven basic bodies that make up a human being.
Knowledge of the Light Body is also very important, it can be developed by Beings that carry the divine spark, as well as the genetically implanted embryo that is necessary for the development of the Light Body.
This embryo and this divine spark are possessed by the inhabitants of this planet and no one else.
In the event that in a Human Being, a Light Body develops from the embryo and matures during an incarnation, that being acquires status
The Light Being, these are the Beings that answer the questions in the sessions
Cassiopean experiment.
When there is a transition from this level of consciousness to a higher level of consciousness, human species from this planet, all those who move to a higher plane and those who have not crossed over and re-incarnate on a planet of the third level of consciousness, will not have this privilege to bear the divine spark, that is carry the luminescence embryo.
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Comment on Your post.
All in all a very good text, certainly not all that is necessary is included here.
If you want to place this or similar text somewhere else, simply remove the parts that mention Eve from the given text, keep in mind that I am not the only one who knows the truth and knows that these are the most common manipulations.
The book deals with the problem of translation, it's commendable, I know it's hard work, this man deserves respect.
If he makes an accurate translation of the text into English, it does not mean that it is correct or that it is Paul's original text.
This problem is not the fault of the person who corrects the translations.
You can determine the approximate accuracy with additional knowledge.
For one example, God never asks or asks people to serve Him or to serve me.
Any text in which this is written is a forgery.
Another example where he says, "God created man in his own image and likeness," this has nothing to do with the creator of the universe in quotation marks.
The first sentence in the Bible, "God created heaven and earth in the beginning," and the original Hebrew text read, "In the beginning God created heaven and earth,"
They are the word Elohim, which means the plural translated as the singular.
There are many examples where you can find counterfeit texts in other ways.
Paul was a very learned man, he had an imposing knowledge that he, Paul, wrote such nonsense, slim chances.
Mile!
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,,Nicklebleu,, moja preporuka, pročitaj komentar koji slijedi, može ti puno pomći u razumijevanju date problematike, kao i rješavanju drugih nedoumica.
Tekst je napisan tebi, jer drugi ne čitaju moje tekstove.
Ti si pametna osoba, imaš kapacitet koji treba da pretvoriš u znanje, mislim da sam ti to veće rekao.
Ako raspolažeš sa puno informacija a nisi ih prevela u formu znanja, to te dovodi u situaciju da nisi dovoljno potkovana činjenicama.
Zbog čega sam rekao da si pametna osoba, evo zbog čega, boldovano u kopiji citata tvog teksta.
,,The concept of the ‘original sin’ never really made a lot of sense to me. What’s wrong with knowledge? And if it was a ‘forbidden fruit’, why the hell did God (omnipotent, omniscient) put the damn tree in the Garden of Eden in the first place?,,
NIje samo da koncept izvornog grijeha nema smisla, već on nije uopšte tačan.
Ja ću ukratko da objesnim gdje možeš naći odgovore na te nedoumice.
Velika razlika je između Raja i rajskog vrta ili Edena i vremenski i prostorno.
Raj, termin koji ljudi koriste za prostor i vrijeme kada su živjeli na visokom stepenu razvoja a to je druga dimenzija našeg Univerzuma, to je najviša dimenzija koju mogu da dostignu Bića koja imaju svijest.
Razlog koji je doveo do pada iz druge dimenzije nije Eva, jer ona tada nije ni postojala, razlog je druge prirode, to je puno komplikovano da se objasni, gdje bi trebalo puno da pišem.
Dimenzije Univerzuma prema kriterijima koji su vazni za napredak Bića koja imaju svijest.
Prva dimenzija je nulta dimenzija, to je prostor u okviru Jedinstvenog Polja Univerzuma, koji može da se definiše kao Centralni Svemir ili Centralni Univerzum, to je prostor gdje boravi Bog Kreator Univerzuma.
Centralni Univerzum se nalazi približno u centru Jedinstvenog Polja Univerzuma.
Taj prostor je odvojen barijerom od Jedinstvenog Polja Univerzuma, odvojen u svim segmentima, on nema nikakav uticaj na Jedinstveno Polje Univerzuma.
Postoji samo jedan portal, komunikacioni prolaz, preko kojeg Bog Kreator Univerzuma prati kako funkcioniše Jedinstveno Polje Univerzuma.
Sve što se dešava u našem Univerzumu prate odgovarajuće inteligentne energije i koriguju nepravilnosti, te energije imaju moć uticaja u okviru Jedinstvenog Polja Univerzuma, one nemaju uticaja na Centralni Univerzum, tamo nemaju pristupa.
Prva dimenzija Univerzuma je prostor Jedinstveno Polje Univerzuma, taj prostor, odnosno tu dimenziju sačinjavaju isključivo energije, tu nema Bića koja imaju svijest.
U okviru prostora Jedinstveno Polje Univerzuma, kreirane su sljedeće dimenzije koje nastanjuju Bića koja imaju svijet.
Prva u hijerahiji je druga dimezija, ona je najviša iznad nje nama dimenzija u kojima žive Bića koja imaju svijest.
Na drugoj dimenziji je egzistirala ljudska vrsta, to je ono što u žargonu nazivaju Raj.
Da objašnjavam razloge zbog čega je došlo do pada iz druge dimenzije u trinaestu dimenziju, koja je donja granica gdje borave Bića koja imaju svijest, treba puno pisanja i obrazlaganja, to Ti sada ne treba.
Ispod trinaeste dimenzije je četrnaesta dimenzija gdje borave Bića koja nemaju svijest.
Da ponovim za pad iz druge dimenzije nije odgovorna Eva jer tada ona nije postojala, za pad su odgovorni stanovnici planete, njih oko 10%, što je bila kritčna masa koja može da donosi odluke u ime cijele planete.
Znači priča o Luciferu je totalno iskrivljena, oko 10% tadašnjih stanovnika planete su ono što nazivaju Lucifer.
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Eva i rajski vrt, da Eva je genetski razvijena u Edenu, tu je bio i Adam, originalno ime klona je ,,Adama,, .
Priča o grijehu, i ispaštanju ljudi zbog tog grijeha je blago rečeno iskonstruisana da bi svoje grijehe, svoje neznanje, svoju ljenost prikačili Bogu ili Evi.
Rajski vrt ili Eden je bio prostor gdje su vršeni genetski ekspreimenti.
Takođe u tom prostoru su baravili vladari određenih dijelova planete čije izvorno porijeklo nije sa ove planente.
Oni su u trom prostoru vršili genetske eksperimente.
Tu je razvijen prvi klon spojem genetike tadašnjeg stanovnika ove planete i Bića koja nisu sa ove planete, to je prva genetska modifikacija čovjeka.
To se desilo nakon pada iz druge dimenzije ili Raja , ljudi nakon pada iz Raja su bili na najnižem stepenu razvoja u Univerzumu, u tekstovima koji obrađuju tu materiju ih nazivaju primati na veoma niskom stepenu razvoja.
Sve ovo što sam rekao vezano za Eden i još puno toga piše u jednoj knjizi, ona je najviše prodavana knjiga na planeti.
I svakako da pojasnim floskulu tipa, Eva je izbačena iz Raja te za njom i ostali stanovnici Zemlje, vic koji je najviše prepričavan u našem Univerzumu.
Adam i Eva su izbačeni iz Rajskog vrta ili Edena, napolje iz ograđenog i dobro čuvanog prostora na planeti Zemlji koji je bio veoma mali.
Šta je bio razlog da su izbačeni iz Edena, tamo je bilo zabranjeno da se bave seksom, oni su bili eksperimentalni modeli genetike, pokvarili su posao genetičara.
Što se tiče priče o drvetu života i znanju, to je vezano za pad iz druge dimenzije to nema veze sa Evom.
Adam i Eva su bili na takvom stepenu razvoja, da bi kad bi pred njih
stavili televizor u njega blejili kao tele u šarena vrata.
Oni nisu bili sposobni da koriste napredna znanja.
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Ako želiš da proučiš datu problematiku, iz veoma kompetentnog izvora, reci mogu da otvorim negdje novu temu.
Ta knjiga kao i neke druge knjige dotiču i ovu temu, možda čak i više od date knjige koja je predmet rasprave.
Da bi mogli da validno tumačite tekstove koje je napisao Pavle treba Vam dodatno znanje iz određenog broja oblasti.
On, Pavle, je pisao poslanice za laike, obični narod gdje se često koristi fraza ,,vjerujte mi na riječ,,...u slučaju da je pisao svoje misli na način kako bi ja to napisao, tada bi ga proglasili ludim, zbog toga je tako pisao.
Pavle je znao da ljudsko Biće ne može da umre, ljudsko Biće je besmrtno.
On to nije smio da napiše, pa je to objašnjavao u približnim analogijama.
Pavle je pričao o umiranju ili smrti, što je za svako ljudsko Biće poželjno, jer time napreduju prema višim nivoima, on je pričao o smrti fizičkog tijela a ne o smrti Bića.
Kada dostignete nivo da Vam umru sva tijela koja imate, tada ste dostigli savršenstvo u napretku.
Imate sedam osnovnih tijela plus svjetlosno, koje nije obavezno, takođe imate ukupno 49 tijela, tih sedam tijela treba da razvijete do te granice da vam nisu više potrebna, da umru, tada napredujete.
Pošto je to nemoguće postići u jednoj inkarnaciji, to je jedan od razloga što se vraćate u ponovnu inkarnaciju, da to nadomjestite.
Znači treba Ti solidno znanje o sedam osnovnih tijela koja čine ljudsko Biće.
Takođe je veoma važno znanje o Svjetlosnom tijelu, njega mogu da razviju Bića koja u sebi nose božansku iskru, kao i genetski usađen embrion koji je neophodan za razvoj Svjetlosnog tijela.
Taj embrion i tu božansku iskru imaju ljudi stanovnici ove planete i niko više.
U slučaju da se kod ljudskog Bića, iz embriona razvije Svjetlosno tijelo i da sazrije u toku jedne inkarnacije, to biće stiče status Svjetlosnog Bića, to su Bića koja odgovaraju na pitanja u sesijama
Kasiopejski eksperiment.
Kad prođe tranzicija iz ovog nivoa svijesti u viši nivo svijesti, ljudske vrsta sa ove planete, svi oni koji pređu u viši nivo i oni koji nisu prešli te se ponovo inkarniraju na planetu trećeg nivoa svijesti, neće imati tu privilegiju da nose božansku iskru odnosno da nose embrion Svijetlećeg tijela.
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Komentar na Tvoj post.
Sve skupa veoma dobar tekst, svakako da tu nije obuhvaćeno sve ono što je neophodno.
Ako želiš da taj ili sličan tekst postaviš na neko drugo mjesto, jednostavno iz datog teksata ukloni one dijelove koji pominju Evu, imaj na umu da ja nisam jedini koji zna istinu i koji zna da su to najobičnije manipulacije.
Knjiga se bavi problemom prevoda, to je za pohvalu, znam da je to težak posao, taj čovjek zaslužuje respekt.
Ako on napravi tačan prevod teksta na engleski jezik, to ne znači da je on tačan ili da je originalan Pavlov tekst.
Za taj problem nije kriv čovjek koji koriguje prevode.
Približnu tačnost možeš da odrediš dodatnim znanjem.
Jedan primjer, Bog nikada ne traži niti je tražio od ljudi da mu služe ili da mi budu sluge.
Svaki tekst u kojem to piše je falsifikat.
Drugi primjer gdje kaže ,,Bog je stvorio čovjeka po svojoj slici i prilici,,, ovo u navodnicima nema veze sa Bogom kreatorom Univerzuma.
Prva rečenica u Bibliji ,, U početku stvori Bog nebo i zemlju,, , a u originalnom tekstu na starohebrejskom jeziku stoji ,, U početku Bogovi stvoriše nebo i zemlju,,
Oni su riječ ,,Elohim,, koja označava množinu preveli kao jedninu.
Ima puno primjera gdje možeš na druge načine naći krivotvorene tekstove.
Pavle je bio veoma učen čovjek, imao je impozantno znanje, da on, Pavle, piše takve gluposti, male šanse.
Mile!