PSY-OPS Web Forums: Book of Thoth

[THoTH]

It's no wonder nothing progresses, when cliques form like this, sorry guys you think what you like, looks like you will anyway. Ironic you're accusing me of that which you're guilty of yourselves. Have fun :)

 

[CarpeDiem]

Thoth, i did merely ask you questions which were logically deductible from your own statement. So, would you take a minute to answer?

 

[THoTH]

Sorry Carpediem, you're right, but as I pointed out, I don't have much free time to get into the semantics of phraseology.

Your site, without doubt, impresses at least by its gross size, osit. What is your site aimed at?

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/faq.html


Why do you dedicate so much time to your site, what are your goals?

Goals are pretty much in the FAQ, why do I devote so much time, it's a passion like most things. I won't repeat it's aims, they're all in the link there, succinctly to create a community that researches, discusses and explores areas that are often considered 'fringe' by society. To bring a respectability to the subject, and of course to provide a wealth of resources for others to find their truths.


You stated that sott and book-of-Thoth 'are on the same side'. How did you come to that conclusion? To state that 'we are at the same page' you must have read at least some sott materials.

Whole thing is out of whack, you guys seem to have taken a phrase at it's face value, 'same page' means I'm no agent, or the other things it was assumed I was. I have read the materials, and browsed your forums, by the looks you also want to increase awareness and encourage discussion on subjects some may call taboo. For the record I mean't that I was on the same side as Laura, not that the sites were.


Did any of materials here disturbed, outraged you? Do you agree with everything presented here that logically would enable you to state 'we are at the same page'?

Again, you're taking that at face value, it's puzzling me why there's this concern about "same page" see the previous response for my take on that. Nothing I saw here disturbed or outraged, and I don't agree with everything presented here, but if that's what you took the meaning of "same page" as, then clearly we're not. I doubt everyone would agree with everything presented, or there'd not be much point in you guys having forums right? :)

Take it easy folks..

 

[Laura]

Take it easy folks..

I agree. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

You might enjoy my new article posted last night (gee, maybe night before last - it's late!)

Forget About Global Warming: We're One Step From Extinction!

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/128992-Forget+About+Global+Warming%3A+We%27re+One+Step+From+Extinction%21

And if you want a quick and easy way to get the whole drift of what we are about, you can listen to a recent BBC radio interview at our bookstore site:

http://www.redpillpress.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=page&id=1&chapter=0&zenid=3t4evef400u2epveuaqm3tgg56

I suspect that you are rather young and I admire you for following your passion and having such a good time doing it. Will you allow me to give you a caution? When you start getting close to the real secrets, things will not be so pleasant and you will need a LOT of passion to survive AND continue on the path.

In any event, nice meeting you.

It is strange but I actually know two people (Tony Smith and Huping Hu) who are both physicists and lawyers.

Yes, we know Tony as well. He's not your average lawyer, I can assure you.

 

[John G]

Yes, we know Tony as well. He's not your average lawyer, I can assure you.

The lawyer gig and cowboy hat are probably just part of his mild mannered disguise. He's really Octonyman. I'm pretty sure octony sense does not lead to tight costumes however.

 

[Renaissance]

Will you allow me to give you a caution? When you start getting close to the real secrets, things will not be so pleasant and you will need a LOT of passion to survive AND continue on the path.

It seems Bourne (Thoth) is closer to the 'underbelly' than he's led on.

Since Bourne is working with MAD on nwowatcher.com he probably knows that MAD has posted here before in the "Viewer's Poll: Alex Jones Voted # 1 Shill" thread as Watchman (who was banned).

In the thread:

Lisa, I'm not a Revere host. As i said, our show [Revolution Radio - part of nwowatcher.com] aired many months before Revere started his network. Once Revere began, i asked him if he'd want to play our show on Saturday nights at midnight, since he was looking for hosts to fill spots on his stream. The idea of a 24 hour network was appealing, so i tried to help them out however i could, in show of support for various hosts coming together to do their own programs. (A few of them also posted at nwowatcher.com before starting their shows).

So no, I'm not a Revere host, our show just happens to be played on Revere's stream. And i don't handle that, the co-host of Revolution Radio is the one who sends Revere the episodes each week. That's basically the only communication we have with them.

I was initially curious if Bourne was the co-host mentioned, but he isn't, Cory Pokigo a.k.a. 'anyeurysm' is.

In any case, I find it hard to believe that Bourne has no prior knowledge of the past goings on in this forum regarding Lisa and Revere radio - that along with his refrain from speaking up about these connections makes him seem a bit disingenuous, imo. I'm not saying this is 'proof' of anything, but it sure makes it interesting.

 

[THoTH]

Where's your manners Shane? I have a first name you know ;) For the record no,I am helping MAD with his site, that's it, no prior knowledge what he's posted, other than at my site.

I was initially curious if Bourne was the co-host mentioned, but he isn't, Cory Pokigo a.k.a. 'anyeurysm' is.

There he goes again, I'm guessing you're using the surname for drama ?

In any case, I find it hard to believe that Bourne has no prior knowledge of the past goings on in this forum regarding Lisa and Revere radio - that along with his refrain from speaking up about these connections makes him seem a bit disingenuous, imo. I'm not saying this is 'proof' of anything, but it sure makes it interesting.

I quote myself from a few messages above

sorry guys you think what you like, looks like you will anyway

Seems like most here prefer to think and write the worst before being certain, but to be blunt, I'm not interested and haven't the time to put something straight, when it's already straight.

Take it easy folks..

I agree. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

You might enjoy my new article posted last night (gee, maybe night before last - it's late!)

Forget About Global Warming: We're One Step From Extinction!

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/128992-Forget+About+Global+Warming%3A+We%27re+One+Step+From+Extinction%21

Excellent article, are you an author?

And if you want a quick and easy way to get the whole drift of what we are about, you can listen to a recent BBC radio interview at our bookstore site:

http://www.redpillpress.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=page&id=1&chapter=0&zenid=3t4evef400u2epveuaqm3tgg56

Thanks for that, an interesting interview to be sure :)

I suspect that you are rather young and I admire you for following your passion and having such a good time doing it. Will you allow me to give you a caution? When you start getting close to the real secrets, things will not be so pleasant and you will need a LOT of passion to survive AND continue on the path.

Well I'd love to say I was young, but no, I'm 44 this year. Thanks for the words of caution, and I agree about things not being pleasant, had people run denial of service attacks on my site before, as well as hackers bringing it down leaving propaganda messages on it. Hope you don't get any repeats of the bad times you've had.

In any event, nice meeting you.

You too Laura :)

Great site you have, just a shame some folks here are so confrontational, it seems no matter what I say it'll be twisted to form some kind of nefarious plot with Bourne as the instigator

Assumptions allow the best in life to pass you by
- John Sales

 

[ark]

Excellent article, are you an author?

You really don't have time (or you just don't care) to read. Even the title. Yet, strangely enough, you have time to write.
Here is the title, copied from the article page, put as a quote, so that it will be easier to read:

Forget About Global Warming: We're One Step From Extinction!

Laura Knight-Jadczyk & Henry See

Signs of the Times

 

[Miss Isness]

'Not that far' - 'Far' is subjective, osit. How far your 'not far' might be? Do you discuss Zionism and Israeli occupation of Palestine on your site for instance?

We didn't get an answer to that one. Oh well, guess it was just one question too many.

Great site you have, just a shame some folks here are so confrontational, it seems no matter what I say it'll be twisted to form some kind of nefarious plot with Bourne as the instigator roll

Folks here make no bones about not taking things at face value. It doesn't generally feel good to be looked upon with suspicion. It would be so much nicer to live in a world where it was safe to trust what people say. Unfortunately, one only has to observe for a short time to become aware of the abundance of lies that stop us from taking effective action to improve our situation. If it's any help, a lot of the folks here question themselves just as rigorously as they are questioning you.

Seems like most here prefer to think and write the worst before being certain, but to be blunt, I'm not interested and haven't the time to put something straight, when it's already straight.

Anyone who has weathered enough storms to make substantial progress in esoteric terms knows that trust has to be earned, and that takes time. Unfortunately, the powers that be have set things up so that very few people have the time to build trusting relationships, the result being that people worthy and capable of trust remain divided and powerless.

 

[Tigersoap]

Hello THoTH

I browsed your site and stumbled on this article below.

Would you care to explain why this article was posted and what do you think of it ?
Thank you.

I posted some quotes from the article

Posted on Saturday, August 05 (2005 !) @ 18:12:07 CDT by THoTH
article submitted by Leia with Geralds acknowledgement.

written by Gerald O Donnell from probablefuture.com which in the short introduction for the site states

Welcome! The Academy of Remote Viewing and Remote Influencing has been teaching since 1997 life awareness-enhancement techniques which allow anyone to view and manipulate, by highly energized thought-power alone, the probable quantum fields of future Reality, in an almost magical way. This advanced remote sensing of probable future events might become critical in surviving and flourishing in the first 12 years of the "Millennium 2000 disturbances." This invaluable mind technology allows our students to Remote View in advance any probable future events and learn to Remote Influence their personal reality, in order to be surrounded by serenity, prosperity, health, and happiness.

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1592.html


It's pretty long so you may want to head over there to read it in full.

Remote Viewing probable future events for 2006 and 2007 Will our final passion focus on death, or on life and renewal?

For a number of years, information packets have been streaming in at the Academy of Remote Viewing and Influencing Reality about Probable Future events. Many referred to unpleasant proximate situations, and a great many were visions of a glorious new world.

Some have remained in the domain of quantum possibilities not energized by thought/consciousness, and many others did indeed crystallize as real events. Much is still to be revealed as we have felt that man’s free-will and choices within the creative matrix of life possibilities had to operate with as little interference as possible.

Nevertheless, man has become so blind to his destructive tendencies and disconnection from real Source, that some warnings and teachings are urgently needed now, and so we will engage in sharing them.

In recent months, many Iranian leaders, egocentrically drunk on the temporal illusory power of mass frenzy which they aroused from their supporters, openly hinted at a nuclear holocaust brought about to Israel’s population through the tip of an Iranian Islamic republic nuclear warhead symbolizing in their minds the wrath of their concept of the Godliness: Allah, the non-so-merciful lately, and certainly not showing signs of being a champion of Oneness and unity amongst all of his children.

As we write this, both Hamas - a Sunni Muslim fundamentalist violent hard-line terror group closely associated with Syria, and Hezbollah, associated with Syria’s ally Iran and its Shi’a fundamentalist Mullahs, have started coordinated attacks upon the state of Israel from both the North and the South. Kidnappings and missiles are starting to hit Israel.

One needs to realize that, although none of the W.M.D. manufactured in Iraq were ever found, most of what was left in Saddam’s arsenal made its way to Damascus, Syria. Both the Syrian and the Iranian government already had far greater stocks of W.M.D. and sophisticated labs concocting all kinds of deadly and horrific chemical and biological substances to be potentially used in warfare against the state of Israel or the American forces in Iraq. Syria and Iran have at their disposal large quantities of the most potent forms of biological and chemical warfare known to man.

There is a probable future shown of Israel going to war against Syria who harbors the operational leadership of Hamas, and gives Intelligence and tactical support to the Hezbollah militias in Lebanon, which Syria still dreams of incorporating into its dream of a greater Syria.

Toward the beginning of 2007, the Korean peninsula may become a major flash point. A major U.S. attack may start against North Korea’s nuclear installations.

Global warming which is 99% man-made will cause massive planetary events and shifts which will dumbfound even the most naive and ignorant amongst humanity. There will be no more question as to whether it is here to stay, but as to how we can predict, somehow mitigate, or even reverse its destructive effects.

 

[Cyre2067]

Ugh, that article hurts my brain. I didn't read the whole thing, but those excerpts were enough to make my skin crawl.

Hi Michael, you'll not find another place on the web like this, and try not to take our interest in investigation as offensive. Like all things in this world, nothing is what it seems. A few things from your faq caught my eye:

This site is called the Book of THoTH because legend has it, that all the greatest secrets were held in the book of THoTH, it was the source of ultimate wisdom.

Personally one thing I've discovered is that you can't get 'it all' from 'one source', and infact, anyone who's tried ends up a fundie (tool of the matrix). Now i'm not calling you a fundie, i think your goals are admirable, but even the best of intentions aren't enough to keep one 'on the path' sotospeak.

THoTH being the god of wisdom, wrote all of his knowledge in one book. This site is the ultimate book, ever growing but brought into the modern age so it is an interactive book. I want it to be THE resource for all material related to the serious study of phenomena, and of course orthodox knowledge too.

Orthodox (mainstream) knowledge is essential to understanding the unorthodox, like UFO's, Ghosts and all the things we discuss here. But I want this site to be different, in that, I want it to stand out from the rest by it being the focus for wisdom in the areas that are the themes of this portal.

Don't you think these goals are a bit lofty? Are they even attainable?

Anyway im lackin the time to do a deeper look into your site, but those are the things that stood out for me in the faq.

 

[anart]

Excellent article, are you an author?

LOL


Do you have any idea where you are? This after assuring us all that 'we're on the same side'??

Sheesh - at least do a little research before you come riding in on your high horse - I'm actually embarrassed for you - and, no, that's not confrontational - just the truth.

 

[ark]

I deleted the last post by thoth - a "reply" that contained nothing but noise. The post started with

"Ah to hell with it..."

and then continued with

"Sorry to leave you folks, coffee is over, have fun (remember what that means?) I might pop back in a week or so see if there's been any more snipes er I mean comments. "

A little bird is telling me that thoth, when popping up in a week or so, may not find many opportunities to add more noise er I mean comments on this Forum ;)

 

[Laura]

Do you have any idea where you are? This after assuring us all that 'we're on the same side'??

Yes, I find that to be either naive or disingenuous considering the following claims...

THoTH being the god of wisdom, wrote all of his knowledge in one book. This site is the ultimate book, ever growing but brought into the modern age so it is an interactive book. I want it to be THE resource for all material related to the serious study of phenomena, and of course orthodox knowledge too.

Orthodox (mainstream) knowledge is essential to understanding the unorthodox, like UFO's, Ghosts and all the things we discuss here. But I want this site to be different, in that, I want it to stand out from the rest by it being the focus for wisdom in the areas that are the themes of this portal.

... put together with the obvious disinfo that has been collected from the site with just a minimum of effort.

The most disturbing effect, and probably the direct object of this Thoth visit is the completely objectionable pretense that there is any sort of relationship between Thoth and myself, as well as Thoth's approach and
the material presented on this website.

I am not saying that Thoth is even necessarily conscious of this. He may be totally naive. But, nevertheless, he - and his website - is being used as a Portal of Negative Influence. Allow me to quote Michael Topper on this:

One of the tactics of STS is to find a means of subtly allying their message with that of the truly Positive so as to generate confusion in untrained minds which would tend on surface evidence to accept these actually contrary messages as equivalent.

� It is for this reason that the education of 3rd density consciousness to the existence of real negativity, to the ways of such negativity, even to the characterization of its existence as far as the degree of true spiritual (because conscious) evil, is considered appropriate and even necessary by the higher density STO beings.

� The STS realm is an inverse reflection of the STO realm; sort of a parallel configuration borrowing all the components of STO by simple reversal and distortion. It proceeds by the method of imitation. It APES the expression of the positive, and all the more carefully when it wishes to be mistaken altogether for the STO stance so as to subvert the messages.

“Its usual strategy is to begin its work by adhering so closely to the letter of the positive as to be virtually indistinguishable to all but initiated awareness, installing itself through the rhythmic lull of entrainment so as to catch the “congregation� totally off guard when it finally diverges slightly or greatly from the set pattern and so pulls a portion of the positive track along with it.

� The voice of STS beings is, of course, all the more ingratiatingly imitative where it is addressing a recipient who is of the STO configuration; those who are configured STS don't need such careful wording to deceive them as they are already willing to be deceived.�

But, we have something very important that can help us to navigate this very narrow pathway: There seems to be a sort of “astral law� that is similar to the gravity in the material world, and this law has been observed over and over again by those who have studied and dealt with the Dark side in great depth. This law says that the true identity of the “source of the signal� or “entity� MUST exhibit some sign or characteristic which identifies its true essence. From this idea came the rule of exorcism that, before one can cast out a demon, one must force the demon to reveal its name. The character of an entity COMPELS this insinuation of a SIGN, a kind of confessional signature no matter how subtle. In fact, it almost seems as though this repeatedly observed factor in the communications of those of the Negative realms is a sort of mockery of those who believe indiscriminately. Higher level STO beings consider the “Ostrich School of Metaphysics� to be of the Service to Self realm. After all, even Polyanna acknowledged the existence of negativity; she never denied it, she just emphasized the positive. (Telemachus AKA Michael Topper)

And what is the "sign"?

Why, the name, of course... "Thoth."

But I have no quarrel with anyone who does what they like on their own website. And we will do what we like on ours. And, as it happens, the Book of Thoth Website is NOT "THE resource for all material related to the serious study of phenomena, and of course orthodox knowledge too" nor "the focus for wisdom in the areas that are the themes of this portal"

It is a portal of disinformation being run by either a naive amateur or it is an intentional tar-baby - disinformation.

I tend to think he is just naive; he seems like a nice, sincere guy who has a hobby. He just hasn't got a real clue.

 

[OddThings]

First off, in the interest of full disclosure, I am an administrator at Book of THoTH. So, take what you will from what I have to say, and ignore what you want. I understand that by starting with that most people here are going to ignore what I have to say, and I'm OK with that. I just wanted to say my little bit for the record here.

Having read the way this thread started, it's pretty obvious that there's a couple of things wrong with the assumptions made, IMHO.

One, that our set-up makes it a highly funded site. That's pretty laughable, honestly. We work on whatever spare money THoTH and his fiance have to put into the site. As was pointed out by your member domivr it's really a pretty basic site. Why do we have a nice site? Because THoTH is pretty good with code and works hard. Why do we have an extensive gallery? Because 4000+ members have contributed to it. It's really that simple. THoTH started the site when para-normal.com was having issues, built a bit of a membership from that site going down, and we've gone strong since then. This year we're making huge strides, and I guess that kind of attention garners skepticism as well. That's to be expected.

Two, you've obviously been confused as to what site Book of THoTH is, and what site THoTH Web(formerly The Book of Thoth) is. As THoTH pointed out, they are two very separate sites, not related at all other than the fact that two banned members of Book of THoTH went out and copied our site and called it something similar in an attempt to steal out members. If you've ever corresponded with Isis, I apologize. That must have been a traumatic experience and probably is the reason for this thread. She has her own site, and it's separate from ours. If you want to trash Thoth Web, knock yourself out. We could honestly care less. Maybe she is an agent, like you seem to think. Go check her site and find out for yourself.

Third, and finally for now, I won't disagree with you on abovetopsecret or godlikeproductions, mostly because I haven't frequented either for at least a year, probably longer. However, one thing that I see people here picking on is the content of the forums and the front page of Book of THoTH. Practically none of that content is from THoTH, as you will notice. It's all member submitted. We don't censor what people want to talk about, unless it's illegal or racist, etc. What the members of the site want to talk about, we allow, within the topics of the forums. Mostly that's paranormal kind of materials, but not exclusively. One thing that I notice about many of the sites that you call psy-ops here is that they, very simply, let their members say what they want. Are some of the members on each and every one of those sites, including our own, probably psy-ops? Sure. This is the information age and they certainly want to control the flow of information. However, calling Michael Bourne an agent, or suggesting that our site is set up to be spy-ops is really so far off base it's hard to even comment on in a reasonable fashion, frankly. If you want to pick out some of our members who have submitted content that you feel makes them agents, lets discuss that. I have a few on my own list, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to censor what they have to say. We let people discuss and make up their own minds, because we feel that people are intelligent enough to do that given the chance.

I know that you have banned THoTH, and for what, I obviously don't know. Perhaps he said something worth being banned for. I'm assuming you'll also ban me for disagreeing with you, but I hope that you, at least, let this message stay, because I think that you're really barking up the wrong tree on this one my friends. Keep fighting the good fight, because it is a good fight, but try not to shoot down everyone in the process. If some of you want to join Book of THoTH and start your own threads and discuss what you want to over there, I think you'll see that you aren't going to be censored, just like all the other members that we have. Thanks for letting me say what I wanted to say.