Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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We stumbled upon this excellent documentary on RT live - only watched parts of it, but it really seems to give a full picture of what's going on in Ukraine since the 90ies, with interviews of ex-PMs etc. Ukraine has for a very long time been absolutely crucial for the US geopolitical game; I didn't realize just how important this country is in the big picture.
s1mpleman
Jedi
It's been repeated by quite a lot of companies too. This is from the 3d printing space I frequent on Reddit.
Im not sure if the below has been posted as this thread is going fast but I keep seeing the story of Volodymyr Zelenskyy staying behind with his troops been pushed quite a bit. The posts generally make out that he's out there fighting with his troops rather than running Way.
I've currently found two videos of him in the streets of Kyiv that don't add much context to the claim, and every image that I've seen posted looked like photo ops' from 2021 and before, some as early as 2019.
I'm on mobile so I apologise for not adding the dates but you can reverse image search them on:
TinEye Reverse Image Search
Zelensky posts video in the streets of Kyiv | CNN
Ukrainian President Zelensky posts a video in the streets of Kyiv with fellow leaders of the country.
Certainly a strong narrative been pushed with all this. Even the great Volodymyr is in it with us!
Photos:
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Putin was a cloak & dagger spy. Running and recruiting them. In such a business trust is everything. Betrayal equals death.Also, as Putin stated a while ago, there are many things he can forgive, but one thing he can't forgive, namely; Betrayal:
.....
'I can never forgive betrayal', warns Putin in new documentary
The Russian President, widely expected to be reelected on Sunday, said in a new documentary that 'not everything' can be forgiven - in particular 'betrayal'.www.dailymail.co.uk
And if you think about it, yes indeed, betrayal belongs to the most unforgivable things or sins a human being can engage in...
I don't know if this is really true but it sure sounds right for this kind of business. In the book by this man.
The books is ,
Aquarium (Suvorov) - Wikipedia
In the book he describes how after being recruited into the GRU and finishing the training, he was led into a room where he was shown a film at the end of which he was to say YES or NO about wanting to join. This was the crucial part of the process of getting in.
Is this true ? Who knows.
Also interestingly, the real last name of the author , Rezun , has an interesting meaning in Ukrainian ( різун, ),
You might be onto something. However, at least for now, I think you're giving too much credit for TPB, I'm not (yet) convinced that they are that smart and capable of that much long term planning of good quality. Their track record e.g. regarding 'Covid' shows that everything has not gone according to their plans, and as I said elsewhere recently, the way the 'Deep State' or 'Secret Team' usually does things is that once they started their mission they'll proceed by reacting to various events that will unfold, believing that they are on top of things, but in reality they don't have proper foresight. And, Putin's track record shows, I think, that he's not of the reactionary type – he knows their games very well and considers carefully his (Russia's) moves.
Maybe this is just my wishful thinking, but at least for now I like to think that the PTB and their 'Secret Team' aren't geniuses, that they do make errors and miscalculations, and that this latest blizkrieg by Russia maybe is more than they had wished for. Well, wait and see...
This is the page that popped up this morning when clicking my bookmark for the RT website.
blob:moz-extension://2c972a65-1bb2-4970-ad7b-82abec335c74/0c439ab7-cda1-430d-9700-3c9f8f78d66d
Given that I live in Canada, makes me realize that the gov are now controlling the web, when it comes to news coming out of Russia. Talk about hypocrisy, this the action of a totalitarian government. Needless to say, I did not click the link. Would I be considered a domestic terrorist? Simply because I clicked a link for information coming from Russia.
It is asking me to confirm my identy as the user of my ISP address.
blob:moz-extension://2c972a65-1bb2-4970-ad7b-82abec335c74/0c439ab7-cda1-430d-9700-3c9f8f78d66d
Given that I live in Canada, makes me realize that the gov are now controlling the web, when it comes to news coming out of Russia. Talk about hypocrisy, this the action of a totalitarian government. Needless to say, I did not click the link. Would I be considered a domestic terrorist? Simply because I clicked a link for information coming from Russia.
It is asking me to confirm my identy as the user of my ISP address.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
One thing certain. They will be easy to spot. Are they that dumb ?
Where are the Americans, British, French, Germans, Poles, Latvians, Czechs, .... where is the EU Army ????
In the barracks watching TV, that's where.
If this is true then it is not too hard to add 2+2 who these guys work for and who are the people that they supposedly are coming to help.
If they start playing games with SWIFT I think the US will experience on a grand scale what Canada just experienced on a small scale with their emergency acts. But perhaps it will give Putin the impetus to launch RUSWIFT and a parry another punch from the Empire. Convince the world that the US Dollar is compromised and they don't need it, then provide the alternative.
I have to say that this Russian military operation caught me off guard. I didn't expect them to do this right after recognising the DPR and LPR. I expected them to go into Donbass and protect the new republics.
So I've been thinking and reading this thread and I've come to a plausible theory, IMO.
The Americans have been predicting a false flag that would give Russia a pretext, so we can safely say that they were up to something themselves.
They've then pushed Ukraine to go after Donbass more openly which lead directly to Russia's recognition of the two republics.
The next step was the attack by Ukie forces on the border station close to Kharkov.
I think this was their false flag. They expected Russia to retaliate which would lead to a gradual increase in military acitvity on both sides. Of course, the US would then come in with a "told you so" and everyone would agree that this was a false flag perpetrated by the Russians.
Putin and co. laid a plan for exactly this eventuality.
They had this military operation fully planned out well in advance and have agreed that any attempt by the Ukies to draw them into a protracted conflict, such as the aforementioned false flag, would trigger the execution of the plan.
The rationale for this would be that, if they only responded to that particular attack with equal measure, this would allow the US to increase their involvement in Ukraine exponentially, bringing in weapons, troops and possibly even nukes which would be the worst option for everyone, including Ukraine.
They've instead decided to go all out and not give the US a chance to play the long game with them.
And it makes sense that they've not even mentioned that attack as any sort of pretext, so as not to give the US their "told you so" moment.
When Russia recognised LPR and DPR, the US knew that the jig was up. Russia would go in, and restore peace which would eventually bring about an end to the Ukie regime when prosperity returned to the Donbass, while Ukraine continued to suffer.
So they've quickly put their false flag in motion, hoping to give themselves a pretext to become much more involved in Ukraine and turning it into a long drawn out proxy war, sort of like an Afghanistan 2.0.
Putin didn't take the bait and instead went all out to destroy the Ukie regime and preclude the possibily of the US using the country as bait ever again.
The best hope for the world is that the Russian military takes out the Ukie leadrship in the next few days with minimal civilian casualties, and starts a process of democratic recovery while withdrawing all troops.
Ukies placing artillery in the middle of residential areas will make this difficult, it seems, but I think the Russians have more tricks up their sleeves.
So I've been thinking and reading this thread and I've come to a plausible theory, IMO.
The Americans have been predicting a false flag that would give Russia a pretext, so we can safely say that they were up to something themselves.
They've then pushed Ukraine to go after Donbass more openly which lead directly to Russia's recognition of the two republics.
The next step was the attack by Ukie forces on the border station close to Kharkov.
I think this was their false flag. They expected Russia to retaliate which would lead to a gradual increase in military acitvity on both sides. Of course, the US would then come in with a "told you so" and everyone would agree that this was a false flag perpetrated by the Russians.
Putin and co. laid a plan for exactly this eventuality.
They had this military operation fully planned out well in advance and have agreed that any attempt by the Ukies to draw them into a protracted conflict, such as the aforementioned false flag, would trigger the execution of the plan.
The rationale for this would be that, if they only responded to that particular attack with equal measure, this would allow the US to increase their involvement in Ukraine exponentially, bringing in weapons, troops and possibly even nukes which would be the worst option for everyone, including Ukraine.
They've instead decided to go all out and not give the US a chance to play the long game with them.
And it makes sense that they've not even mentioned that attack as any sort of pretext, so as not to give the US their "told you so" moment.
When Russia recognised LPR and DPR, the US knew that the jig was up. Russia would go in, and restore peace which would eventually bring about an end to the Ukie regime when prosperity returned to the Donbass, while Ukraine continued to suffer.
So they've quickly put their false flag in motion, hoping to give themselves a pretext to become much more involved in Ukraine and turning it into a long drawn out proxy war, sort of like an Afghanistan 2.0.
Putin didn't take the bait and instead went all out to destroy the Ukie regime and preclude the possibily of the US using the country as bait ever again.
The best hope for the world is that the Russian military takes out the Ukie leadrship in the next few days with minimal civilian casualties, and starts a process of democratic recovery while withdrawing all troops.
Ukies placing artillery in the middle of residential areas will make this difficult, it seems, but I think the Russians have more tricks up their sleeves.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Second virus upon us?
US official: Russian invasion of Ukraine risks release of dangerous pathogens
A US official worries that the conflict in Ukraine could lead to damage at laboratories holding dangerous pathogens.thebulletin.org
US labs to study 'world's most dangerous pathogens' on Ukrainian soil: How Russia had raised the bioweapon alarm
Russia has accused US and Ukraine of developing bioweapons close to its borders. | OpIndia Newswww.opindia.com
3% on Gab: 'US Embassy just removed all their Ukraine Bioweap…'
3% on Gab: 'US Embassy just removed all their Ukraine Bioweapon lab documents from the website. https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/ Just in the last day they removed all the PDF files from the embassy...gab.com
Those labs the US has in the country of Georgia are for what ?
Article from 2018
Russia claims US running secret biological weapons lab in Georgia
Moscow says Richard G. Lugar Center for Public Health Research hides sinister activities behind peaceful facade; Pentagon dismisses 'imaginative' disinformation
www.timesofisrael.com
Explosive Article: The Pentagon Bio-Weapons - Algora Blog
NATURAL HEALTH NEWS BIG STORY By Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, SPECIAL REPORT For Natural Blaze The US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons. Hundreds of thousands of unwitting people are...
www.algora.com
These 'Strela' vehicles may be Russian-built but they are lacking the 'Z' or 'V' signs the Russian army uses in the current conflict...
dredger
The Living Force
On my side i feel the contrary than your feelings and the ones of Michael : their plan is fully messed up everywhere in the world and they try as much as possible to avoid their power to crumble and to adapt their plans, and worst thing for them is that they are fighting each others, there's no solidarity between them, except at the highest level.
Yes the C's said there was already a world government in place, and i don't recall they said this world governance is fully controlled by the lizzards, what i think is that another camp raised, human one, which is against the wish of the lizzards - i remember the C's talked about the consortium which is, if i well recall, kind of neutral. Anyway, hard to figure out the exact pyramid of power that controls the world - any specific thread discussing this, trying to draw a kind of pyramidal scheme that would help us to figure out who controls what ?
I'm with you Aragorn on your view of deep state hubris etc. But if one puts the 3 timelines together plus the impending cyber narrative there's a whole heap of overly circumstantial lock-step moves going on. I do believe Putin is acting independently and in the best interest as he sees it of Russia, but I detect from his language he has totally given up on the idea of remaining in tune with 'western values' as if he really knows how they have cornered him into becoming the monster they require him/Russia to be for their playbook to work. That's why I think he is now making it seriously clear than anyone who interferes directly from now on in what Russia must do to preserve her long term survival will reap the wrath of Khan. I think he knows this is the end of all pretense, of the phony war - and from now on in it's each to their own. And I suspect he knows full well what is planned for the people of Europe and beyond and there's nothing he can do - or will do - to try to influence let alone to stop it.
Russia halts the export of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, accounts for 62% of world supply
In the background its also worth noting WEF language during the build up to the above.
I still hold to it that Omicron was a lab leak with a single intent - to stop the pandemic dead in its tracks. Even Bill Gates let slip that yes Omicron was 'sadly' and effectively a comprehensive Covid vaccine (you've had your playtime Bill, now back in your box for a while as we'll take over from here thank you very much!). Then we march straight into 2 crisis within effectively days.
Added to this is the theme of the World Economic Forum’s 2022 annual summit meeting, due to be held in May and the first in-person meeting of the forum since 2019 - being ‘Working Together, Restoring Trust’.
I interpret 'working together', 'rebuilding trust and social cohesion', 'adopting new models' and 'acting systemically' to mean that they require a dramatic pivot around which this double-speak can actually do what it means, namely head further and significantly on to the totalitarian state of being that will make all accept and comply... in a trusting manner! You will own nothing and you will be happy. And Russia has been locked out of this club.
Come May we may be looking at very different global circumstances than today.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Poland is a loose Pawn in the Big Game. I suspect the Polish population does not realize just how dangerous of a game the country is being sucked into.
1939, that I wrote about earlier, should be a warning to Poles, but I am not holding my breath that it is happening there. Like in many countries, people live with historical myths which lead to repeating history. The current myth makers are in the list of people you presented plus many more don't know about in that unlucky country.
This went on for 8 months. Major action by Brits, dropping leaflets on Germans.
Phoney War - Wikipedia
I would love to know who gave this name to this period because it has the sick hallmarks of British satire used to rub it in to the victim.