Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[Persej]

It seems to me that the Russian leadership, if of course it is greatly simplified, thinks something like this: we must try to stall for as long as possible without bringing matters to serious conflicts and they (geopolitical opponents) will fall on their own. This is evidenced to me by the fact that from the moment of the Ukrainian Maidan to the beginning of the SMO, as many as 8 years have passed. We pulled as long as we could, unfortunately we couldn't reach the edge.

Perhaps they were also aware of future weather (cosmic) changes and possible collapse of western countries because of that?

 

[youlik]

Perhaps they were also aware of future weather (cosmic) changes and possible collapse of western countries because of that?

I'm not sure about that at all.
For me, the marker in this issue is the large amount of attention paid by our authorities (including Putin personally) to such things as AI.
I fully admit that this may be the same situation as it was with covid. I remember that at the corresponding session of C's, when asked how Putin could behave in the same way as the Western authorities (this is not an exact quote, but the meaning is correct), they answered very simply: imagine if he did not do this. In this sense, it can also be a forced game.
By the way, this could be a question for C's.

Here we have Iron Dimon burned out again-be healthy, keep tightly!
Moreover, while delivering this speech, Medvedev was dressed in a French jacket a la Mao. As we say, a turn to the East.

Medvedev showed on the map the future borders of Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Hungary and Poland
Deputy Head of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev, during a speech at the marathon "Knowledge. The first", showed a new map of Eastern Europe, on which parts of present-day Ukraine are shown as part of other states.

The map shows that the Chernivtsi and Vinnytsia regions may become part of Romania, Uzhgorod — Hungary, Poland will receive Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Khmelnitsky, Ternopil, Lutsk, Rivne, Zhytomyr, and the rest of the regions will join Russia.

In the illustration, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kirovograd, Cherkasy, Chernihiv, Kharkov, Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Sumy, Kherson are part of the Russian Federation. The unrecognized Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic is also listed on this map as Russia.

Ukraine, according to this map, will have a small piece of territory centered in Kiev. "Russia needs to go the current way. The historical parts of the country must return home," the deputy chairman of the Security Council concluded.

"Dmitry Medvedev stated bluntly that Ukraine is Russia. And presented the map. But why was the ancient Russian capital Kiev not left in Russia?" asked political expert Sergei Markov.

"A generous offer to Poles and Romanians. For those who did not understand why Medvedev is making such a generous offer to Poles and Romanians: after all, in no case was Zhytomyr offered to Poland, and Vinnytsia to Romania. This is a bonus for entering into negotiations at the current stage. Moscow offers to pay this bonus at the expense of Ukraine, because it was for Kiev that these lands remained in any previous dealings. Russia hints that Kiev made a mistake when they decided to withdraw from Istanbul, launch a counteroffensive, raised the stakes and therefore must pay for the mistake with additional alienation of territories. That's the whole point. Recall that Romania and Poland are close to Britain. Therefore, this proposal can be regarded as an offer to the British," the authors of the Ukrainian telegram channel ZeRada wrote.

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But here I agree with him. We've had enough of messing with them.

Medvedev called for the expulsion of EU ambassadors from Russia who refused to meet with Lavrov

MOSCOW, March 4 — RIA Novosti. EU ambassadors who refused to meet with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov before the Russian presidential election should have been expelled from the country, and the level of diplomatic relations with their states should be lowered, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev said on the social network X.
On Monday, Lavrov said that he had recently invited EU ambassadors to talk before the elections, but they refused two days before the meeting.
"These ambassadors should have been expelled from Russia, and the level of diplomatic relations should have been reduced," Medvedev wrote.
He also stressed that the refusal of the EU ambassadors to meet with Lavrov completely contradicts the idea of the existence of diplomatic missions.

Медведев призвал выслать послов ЕС, отказавшихся от встречи с Лавровым

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Я совсем в этом не уверен.
Для меня маркером в данном вопросе служит большое количество внимания, уделяемого нашими властями (в т.ч. лично Путиным) таким вещам, как ИИ.
Вполне допускаю, что с этим может быть такая же ситуация, как было с ковидом. Мне помнится, что на соответствующей сессии C's, на вопрос как же Путин может себя вести так же, как и западные власти (это не точная цитата, но смысл верен), ответили очень просто: представьте, если бы он этого не делал. В этом смысле это также может быть вынужденной игрой. Кстати, это могло бы быть вопросом к C's.
У нас тут Железный Димон опять отжег-будь здоров!
Причем, произнося эту речь, Медведев был облачен во френч а-ля Мао. Как у нас говорят-разворот на Восток.
А вот здесь я с ним согласен. Хватит нам уже с ними цацкаться.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

Here we have Iron Dimon burned out again-be healthy, keep tightly!
Moreover, while delivering this speech, Medvedev was dressed in a French jacket a la Mao. As we say, a turn to the East.

Here's the picture, Ukraine reduced to the smallest portion :

Meanwhile (from Tass) :

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Americans may evacuate Zelensky from Kiev — former US top brass​

"It is now clear that Ukraine has significant manpower problems and its attempt to use forceful means to corral potential recruits is causing unrest in the country," former Pentagon employee Stephen Bryen said

HONG KONG, March 5. /TASS/. The United States may evacuate Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky from Kiev due to the successful advance of the Russian army, former Pentagon employee Stephen Bryen said in an article for the Asia Times.
"It is now clear that Ukraine has significant manpower problems and its attempt to use forceful means to corral potential recruits is causing unrest in the country, including in major cities such as Odessa, Kharkov and Kiev," he said. "No one can say how long the Zelensky government can hold on in Kiev. With a steady Russian military advance, growing turmoil at home, the refusal to hold elections, the jailing of people opposed to Zelensky and a host of unpopular measures, Zelensky’s hold on power is entering the zone of desperation. <...> Zelensky’s security situation in Kiev could rapidly come under a terminal shadow. In these circumstances, the Pentagon could rescue Zelensky and move him elsewhere, with Lvov being the most likely place, as it is far in the west and challenging for the Russians to reach if they wished to deal with Zelensky using military means," Bryen wrote.
The former Pentagon official opined that the US and NATO have few good options left in this situation. "[US President Joe] Biden cannot afford another Afghanistan debacle but one is rapidly creeping in his direction thanks to Russian military victories and the crumbling of Ukraine’s defenses," he pointed out. "

Maybe this move would also allow to "protect" him from his own peoples retaliations...
After march 7, the official mandate of Zelensky as president will end.

 

[Natus Videre]

Maybe this move would also allow to "protect" him from his own peoples retaliations...
After march 7, the official mandate of Zelensky as president will end.

Moving Zelensky to Israel would be a wise choice. It's getting dark in those Hamas tunnels without some "animation."

 

[Vulcan59]

Reports coming in that Victoria Nuland is resigning!

Victoria Nuland quits

US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is poised to leave the State Department in the coming weeks, Antony Blinken has said

www.rt.com

 

[Cosmos]

Reports coming in that Victoria Nuland is resigning!

Victoria Nuland quits

US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is poised to leave the State Department in the coming weeks, Antony Blinken has said

www.rt.com

I'm afraid that the "resigning" of the devil is just a temporary measure. I bet she is trying to sneak into other positions.

 

[Cosmos]

Moreover, while delivering this speech, Medvedev was dressed in a French jacket a la Mao. As we say, a turn to the East.

Here's the picture, Ukraine reduced to the smallest portion :

Meanwhile (from Tass) :

It seems to me that Medvedev's recent speech is a very interesting and potentially historic one! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a good and full translation into English. The only video translation I could find is this one:

It seems like Medvedev was pretty direct and exposed western politicians as ridiculous and spinless clowns, with supporting pictures and video material! Hilarious and ohh so true.

 

[youlik]

It seems to me that Medvedev's recent speech is a very interesting and potentially historic one! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a good and full translation into English. The only video translation I could find is this one:

There is no full text even in Russian, and he spoke for more than an hour. Only the "main theses" are published. Here, for example

We don't need someone else's, but we won't give up our own. Medvedev spoke at the WFM in Sirius

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev arrived at the World Youth Festival in Sirius. Here, at the marathon "Knowledge.The first ones," he spoke to the young people. Medvedev's lecture was called "Geographical and strategic Borders." Here are the main theses of the speech.

When it comes to Russia, it is necessary to understand where and how its borders are currently outlined and how they have changed. "These questions are not rhetorical. They are not as unambiguous as they may seem from the first approach. This is a conversation about the basic coordinate system in which our country exists, thinks, acts, fights and wins today. We are building the future of our country. Our president spoke precisely about these issues: "Russia's borders do not end anywhere," Medvedev began.

Some things are well understood by Russia's friends and allies, and opponents should keep it in mind. "We don't need someone else's land, but we will never give up on our own. So it was, and so it will be. Our history has proved this more than once. This is the principle by which our state policy is based," said the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council.

The politician recalled that any state has two types of borders — geographical and strategic: "The first are stable, officially recognized in accordance with international law, lines that fix the geographical limits of the state. This is one of the main elements of its political and territorial structure. Within these borders, the State has absolute sovereignty. But they prefer not to mention the second type of borders once again. Talking about them is political nonsense. And as usual, these are the questions that matter the most."

Strategic borders are not limited to the physical size of the country, airspace and territorial waters and are not directly related to sovereignty. "The strategic borders of a state depend on how far its political power extends, how strong and sovereign a particular country and its government are," Medvedev said.

The Deputy Chairman of the Security Council focused on the special military operation taking place in Ukraine: "We are not talking about expanding the borders of our state by effective occupation. Our actions are a forced, but quite effective response to the Russophobic policy of the Bandera regime and the collective West, to its desire to destroy our state, undermine independence and sovereignty."

According to him, the collective West is so used to "manic spells" about the Russian threat that it has become a disgusting constant of the Anglo-Saxon world.: "It's time for them to remember: the modern world is not a colonial order. If the West still considers this approach to be the only acceptable model for the existence of international relations, it will have to understand that its ideas are outdated. The world is much more complicated than before."

Now the world is based on the principles of equality, mutual benefit and partnership, and not on force and pressure, the politician recalled. And history has decreed that the core of the Russian space is neighboring countries connected with Russia by centuries—old traditions of cooperation, in many cases by a single statehood.

Dmitry Medvedev expressed the opinion that the territories located on both sides of the Dnieper River are an integral part of Russia's historical strategic borders. Attempts to forcibly change or circumcise them are doomed.

"Russia does not dictate political will to its neighbors, does not indicate how to live, does not threaten with sanctions," Medvedev noted. — On the contrary, we listen, we try to accept any arguments and requests. We are always open to dialogue with responsible leaders and political elites."

https://dzen.ru/a/ZeYKJrMsSQc7yPf6

Reports coming in that Victoria Nuland is resigning!

Here, they say, Armenia is going to leave the CSTO. I wonder if this malicious creature managed to bring its famous cookies poisoned by Maidan shit there?

We were just talking about the malicious creature- Nuland, and now let's talk about the malicious machine HIMARS. This malicious system has already drunk a lot of blood. Data on the defeat of these systems has appeared several times, but there has been no clear video confirmation so far. Now it is there.
Once again about Abrams. Don't kick your feet, I swear that this is the last time I'll mention him. Today they reported about another Abrams hit. It is already 3 or 4 in a row, but he is 1 of all who died with dignity. In the sense that it wasn't some cheap drone that killed him, but a real, modern ATGM Kornet. Of course, having received a Cornet rocket in the side, the poor guy had no chance of surviving.

The first clear footage of the defeat of the Russian missile by the American MLRS HIMARS AFU appeared on the Network
The first visual confirmation of the destruction of the HIMARS AFU MLRS appeared on the Network. The shooting of the destruction of the American multiple launch rocket system was conducted by a reconnaissance drone. The cadres actively distribute Russian and Ukrainian resources.

According to information that appeared on the Network, the M142 HIMARS MLRS was detected by a Russian reconnaissance drone near the village of Nikanorovka in the temporarily controlled part of the DPR. The coordinates of the target were transferred to the headquarters, after which the rocket worked on the installation, according to some TG channels, the Iskander missile defense system. The defeat of the MLRS is confirmed by both the ignition and secondary detonation of ammunition removed by a reconnaissance drone.

It is also reported that the calculation was destroyed along with the HIMARS MLRS. In addition, there is evidence that after the Russian missile strike, Ukrainian special forces who guarded the installation also suffered losses. We cannot confirm or deny this information, so everything is at your discretion.

On Ukrainian public sites, they say that it is unclear how a Russian drone could detect an installation located quite far from the front line, about 50 km away. It is suggested that the MLRS was detected earlier and it was simply driven, and after the stop, the command to destroy followed.

It should be noted that today it was already reported about the destruction of the HIMARS MLRS, but in the Kherson direction. The attempt to stop the offensive of the Russian Armed Forces forces the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to pull up various systems to the front, which is what the Russian military uses, destroying them.

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Полного текста нет даже на русском, а говорил он больше часа. Публикуют только "основные тезисы". Вот, например
Тут, говорят, Армения собралась выходить из ОДКБ. Интересно эта вредоносная тварь успела завезти туда свои знаменитые, отравленные майданным дерьмом, печенюшки?

Только что говорили про зловредную тварь- Нуланд, а теперь поговорим про зловредную машину ХИМАРС. Эта зловредная система попила уже много крови. Данные о поражении этих систем появлялись уже неоднократно, но четкого видео подтверждения не было до сих пор. Теперь оно есть.
Еще раз об Абрамсе. Не пинайте ногами, клянусь, что последний раз заикаюсь о нем. Сегодня сообщили об очередном подбитом Абрамсе. Он уже 3 или 4 по счету, но он 1 из всех, который погиб достойно. В том смысле, что не какой то дешевый дрон его прикончил, а настоящий, современный ПТРК Корнет. Конечно же, получив в бок ракету Корнет у бедняги не было шансов выжить.

 

[BHelmet]

Actually that’s a Nehru jacket. India.

 

[iamthatis]

It seems to me that nothing can be done by financial manipulation alone. To put it simply, the bet was made on independent, internal destruction through the promotion of destructive ideas (LGBT and other shit) and it was possible to take advantage of financial dominance here, but apparently it did not work. Anyway, it didn't work the way the puppeteers wanted, and what should they do now? To fight? They are used to fighting, and in itself this does not scare them or stop them, but there is one problem. In the process of promoting their shitty ideas, they destroyed their own society, brought it to the state that there are a lot of people, but no one will fight (I'm exaggerating a little, of course) and now this is the problem. Reformatting everything in the opposite direction will depend not only on money, but also on time, and it may not be enough. It seems to me that the Russian leadership, if of course it is greatly simplified, thinks something like this: we must try to stall for as long as possible without bringing matters to serious conflicts and they (geopolitical opponents) will fall on their own. This is evidenced to me by the fact that from the moment of the Ukrainian Maidan to the beginning of the SMO, as many as 8 years have passed. We pulled as long as we could, unfortunately we couldn't reach the edge.
I wrote it a bit haphazardly, but I hope it's clear what I mean.

Yeah, the situation does look clear. But then again, the PTB are slippery. BRICS+ looks to be on the verge of being unstoppable. The Ukraine Nazis, the Nordstream sabotage, sanctions war, the Navalny types, etc. - all of these were supposed to topple Putin. None of it worked. Putin pegged the ruble to gold, the sanctions acted like a protective tariff, Russia mobilized and started the SMO, and the Navalny types were ineffective. The colour revolutions against Belarus and Khazakstan (not to mention Turkiye) were put down.

As you say, at the same time, America is queering its army, infrastructure is crumbling, drug use on the rise, the import of millions of immigrants, the derivates bubble and debt bubble both grow endlessly, and Uncle Sam's grip on the world is faltering. I am just wondering about all this. Is this fall of America a mix of PTB incompetence and wishful thinking, plus intervention by certain forces of virtue? How much of it is by design? The C's did say that the PTB only had 40% of its plans in place. Given that 60% gap, will the PTB make use of what they learned from the 'practice run' of the first two world wars? Because Germany was also led into a terrible situation after WW1. From Conjuring Hitler:

The salient developments of Weimar’s 15-year run-up to the Third Reich were but the pangs of Nazism’s gestation. The interminable parliamentary jockeying; the failures of 32 parties, 20 Cabinets and 9 elections; the 224,900 suicides and 300 political assassinations;6 the relentless shuffling of numberless economic proposals with no future; the two financial shock therapies (1923 and 1931); the literal inexistence of the republic’s statesmanship and the puppeteering of the Anglo-American clubs; the violence; the allegedly impotent cynicism of the Allies; the population’s leaden pessimism; the ‘hairsplittings and tortured compromises over [the reparations’ imaginary] millions and billions, [which] all seem scarcely worth studying today’; all these are pieces of a chronicle captioning the rise of Hitlerism.

Not to mention millions unemployed, many women forced into prostitution, and everyday brutal left/right violence in the streets.

So the idea I'm getting at it that the PTB probably know their plans haven't turned out that well. So then what do they do? Project Ukraine has all but failed, so maybe they will simply destroy Europe and use their agents to create another hotbed for fascism. Even if the Europeans look meek and incompetent now, can they still be weaponized? If the bankers turn the taps on, then maybe the answer is yes. But as you say, this would take time.

And the PTB may also totally destroy America, too, also to create a hotbed for fascism, a strong leader and a strong state, destroying the internal enemy, as well as the external one, and all the rest. Could they effectively re-arm themselves? Maybe, even if it takes years and a massive overhaul of everything. It's not fun to think about, but that's what the 'practice run' comment suggests. Whatever it is they've got planned as a contingency, I don't like the feeling I'm getting. They probably need maximum despair to usher it in via transmarginal inhibition just like in the past. Maybe the psychopathic saviour is AI instead of a human like Hitler, I don't know. I do think they're in this for the long game, though. I don't think the PTB will use nukes, and I don't think they will just give up. Hence my speculations.

 

[youlik]

It is very difficult for me to talk about PTB. I am an ordinary person, and there is no human logic in their actions. For myself, I explain this by non-human influence with non-human goals, too, as C's told us in general terms. Also, one should not forget what C's have said repeatedly, namely their ability to see only what they want to see and, accordingly, the inability to see an objective picture. Therefore, it remains for us, as C's has repeatedly recommended to us, to wait and see.
From my ordinary human point of view, the following can be seen in general terms. The "fascist" (the name is conditional, just by analogy with the past, but the essence is exactly the same) perspective of Europe is real, to say the least - this perspective is almost inevitable. The story with America is a little different. There is also a high probability of such a development, but they also have a real chance of avoiding such a prospect. I repeat, in my opinion, Europe has no chance.
Now about the conditions. You are writing

They probably need maximum despair to usher it in via transmarginal inhibition just like in the past.

These conditions are not yet in reality. Some people see this as a perspective (as an example, your bad feelings), but many do not see it at all yet. This will come and it must become an unbearable reality for everyone, and only then will a monster like the third Reich form. Again, I emphasize that this is an analogy only in essence, and not in name or form.

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Мне очень трудно говорить про PTB. Я обыкновенный человек, а в их действиях человеческой логики не просматривается. Для себя я это объясняю нечеловеческим влиянием с целями тоже нечеловеческими, о чем нам в общих чертах рассказали C's. Также не следует забывать то, о чем C's говорили неоднократно, а именно их возможность видеть только то, что они хотят видеть и, соответственно, невозможность видеть объективную картину. Поэтому нам остается, как опять же неоднократно рекомендовали нам C's, ждать и смотреть.
С моей, обыкновенной человеческой точки зрения в общих чертах видится следующее. "Фашистская" (название условно, просто по аналогии с прошлым, а суть именно та самая) перспектива европы реальна, если не сказать больше- эта перспектива практически неизбежна. С Америкой немного другая история. Там тоже есть большая вероятность такого развития, но у них есть и реальные шансы избегнуть подобной перспективы. Повторюсь, что у Европы на мой взгляд шансов нет.
Теперь про условия. Вы пишете
Вот этих условий пока в реальности нет. Некоторые люди видят это, как перспективу (как пример, ваши нехорошие ощущения), а многие пока этого не видят совсем. Это наступит и это должно стать для всех невыносимой реальностью и вот только тогда сформируется монстр, подобный третьему рейху. Опять же подчеркну, что это аналогия только по сути, а не по названию или по форме.

 

[Evan]

Reports coming in that Victoria Nuland is resigning!

Victoria Nuland quits

US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is poised to leave the State Department in the coming weeks, Antony Blinken has said

www.rt.com

As I said in the SOTT comments below this article: “The burning, swollen red boil finally lanced from its perineum, a long-suffering nation sits comfortably for the first time in a recent memory.”

Doubtless however she’ll find a new outlet through which to channel her sick psychopathic energy.

 

[Cosmos]

It seems to me that Medvedev's recent speech is a very interesting and potentially historic one! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a good and full translation into English. The only video translation I could find is this one:

It seems like Medvedev was pretty direct and exposed western politicians as ridiculous and spinless clowns, with supporting pictures and video material! Hilarious and ohh so true.

One of the main points that Medvedev made (judged by the rather bad simultaneous translation) seems to be that Russia could move into other countries that are in their strategic sphere of influence by force, not in order to steal/take the land/resources of the given countries, but in order to secure/enforce Russian friendly governments! In a similar way the roman empire and russia and others did it in the past. It seems to be a clear warning to western and/or purely western aligned countries in the strategic sphere of Russia, that if the west continues in that way, that the Russians can and probably would do that.

So, the question is, was what Medvedev said sanctioned by Putin? I think so.

Also, take into account that Medvedev is by all accounts the likely successor of Putin in 6 years. Also, notice how clear and undiplomatic Medvedev is speaking/texting, in a hard ball fashion in the last months/years on X and other platforms.

Also, somewhere else in the forum I speculated that Putin might have trained Medvedev as his successor for many years.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we are going to see Medvedev playing hard ball as soon as he is replacing Putin. Maybe that even starts before that point. And it all might have been planned in that way for a long time, as one of possible solutions to Russian problems, should the west not stop.

 

[Natus Videre]

Also, take into account that Medvedev is by all accounts the likely successor of Putin in 6 years. Also, notice how clear and undiplomatic Medvedev is speaking/texting, in a hard ball fashion in the last months/years on X and other platforms.

Also, somewhere else in the forum I speculated that Putin might have trained Medvedev as his successor for many years.

Medvedev is Putin's alter ego.
Sometimes I wonder if what Medvedev says is what Putin really thinks but cannot say.

 

[Cosmos]

It could also be a bluff of some kind.