Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

iamthatis said:
Yeah, the situation does look clear. But then again, the PTB are slippery. BRICS+ looks to be on the verge of being unstoppable. The Ukraine Nazis, the Nordstream sabotage, sanctions war, the Navalny types, etc. - all of these were supposed to topple Putin. None of it worked. Putin pegged the ruble to gold, the sanctions acted like a protective tariff, Russia mobilized and started the SMO, and the Navalny types were ineffective. The colour revolutions against Belarus and Khazakstan (not to mention Turkiye) were put down.

As you say, at the same time, America is queering its army, infrastructure is crumbling, drug use on the rise, the import of millions of immigrants, the derivates bubble and debt bubble both grow endlessly, and Uncle Sam's grip on the world is faltering. I am just wondering about all this. Is this fall of America a mix of PTB incompetence and wishful thinking, plus intervention by certain forces of virtue? How much of it is by design? The C's did say that the PTB only had 40% of its plans in place. Given that 60% gap, will the PTB make use of what they learned from the 'practice run' of the first two world wars? Because Germany was also led into a terrible situation after WW1. From Conjuring Hitler:



Not to mention millions unemployed, many women forced into prostitution, and everyday brutal left/right violence in the streets.

So the idea I'm getting at it that the PTB probably know their plans haven't turned out that well. So then what do they do? Project Ukraine has all but failed, so maybe they will simply destroy Europe and use their agents to create another hotbed for fascism. Even if the Europeans look meek and incompetent now, can they still be weaponized? If the bankers turn the taps on, then maybe the answer is yes. But as you say, this would take time.

And the PTB may also totally destroy America, too, also to create a hotbed for fascism, a strong leader and a strong state, destroying the internal enemy, as well as the external one, and all the rest. Could they effectively re-arm themselves? Maybe, even if it takes years and a massive overhaul of everything. It's not fun to think about, but that's what the 'practice run' comment suggests. Whatever it is they've got planned as a contingency, I don't like the feeling I'm getting. They probably need maximum despair to usher it in via transmarginal inhibition just like in the past. Maybe the psychopathic saviour is AI instead of a human like Hitler, I don't know. I do think they're in this for the long game, though. I don't think the PTB will use nukes, and I don't think they will just give up. Hence my speculations.
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We are now approaching the end of our period of trial with the worst joining its tail. It seems to me , that on top of all that you have stated, a debacle made by collapse after collapse something else awaits the West in 2024-25. Our enemies have been successful. . Our end times are pathologized until every aspect of society is up ended and the normal has rebirthed as the abnormal. But all primary parasites , while set to kill the host ,own a world currency which they depend upon; and it is not only wrecked but it is also close to death as I write this. They are deceived. " Remember All is structured in cyclre and circles " .
 
Medvedev is Putin's alter ego. 😉
Sometimes I wonder if what Medvedev says is what Putin really thinks but cannot say.
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This may not be accurate statement.

Just few terms back, when Medvedev was Putin`s PM and then due to law (3 terms limit - had been changed since) Putin had to step down from presidency and he became president. At that time, Medvedev was so pro West, pro US that the investments (read robberies) were unbelievable. Since Putin took back his presidency, Medvedev has been slowly moved from any position of power. Less significant assignments as Putin`s own power grew and was able to appoint pro Russia people in his government.

So I would take anything Iron Dimon says with rather a big grain of salt. He is in a position where he can say things and not be taken as seriously as an official statement. Still part of the government but not PM or Putin.
 
Honzap said:
This may not be accurate statement.

Just few terms back, when Medvedev was Putin`s PM and then due to law (3 terms limit - had been changed since) Putin had to step down from presidency and he became president. At that time, Medvedev was so pro West, pro US that the investments (read robberies) were unbelievable. Since Putin took back his presidency, Medvedev has been slowly moved from any position of power. Less significant assignments as Putin`s own power grew and was able to appoint pro Russia people in his government.

So I would take anything Iron Dimon says with rather a big grain of salt. He is in a position where he can say things and not be taken as seriously as an official statement. Still part of the government but not PM or Putin.
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Difficult to pin down, what Medvedev’s role really is IMO. What you are suggesting is certainly also a possibility.
 
Honzap said:
This may not be accurate statement.

Just few terms back, when Medvedev was Putin`s PM and then due to law (3 terms limit - had been changed since) Putin had to step down from presidency and he became president. At that time, Medvedev was so pro West, pro US that the investments (read robberies) were unbelievable. Since Putin took back his presidency, Medvedev has been slowly moved from any position of power. Less significant assignments as Putin`s own power grew and was able to appoint pro Russia people in his government.

So I would take anything Iron Dimon says with rather a big grain of salt. He is in a position where he can say things and not be taken as seriously as an official statement. Still part of the government but not PM or Putin.
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There is also the possibility that Medvedev had his eyes opened about the machinations of the West, now sees pretty much what Russia is up against, and his vehemence is in part a response to feeling duped for so long. Notice, also, that Lavrov, Zakharova, etc. also make rather pointed statements sometimes. I just think that Putin is playing it cool, reserved and diplomatic as leader - while still allowing for his government to say the nasty but really truthful bits out loud.
 
The Finns are walking on very thin ice:

Cosmos said:
Finland's new President wants US nukes

No, it is not a joke:

www.straitstimes.com

Finland's new president says Finland must have real nuclear deterrent

HELSINKI - Finland's new president Alexander Stubb said NATO'S nuclear deterrent must be real for Finland, as he took office on Friday after winning a close-fought presidential election on Feb. 11. Read more at straitstimes.com.
www.straitstimes.com www.straitstimes.com


Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to predict what this soon could lead to. They might have crossed the line right there with those statements. If they are lucky, the Russians might hold back until the point that something real develops (aka. a concrete decision to do so and/or those weapons starting to be shipped from the US). The Finns are walking on very thin ice.
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I do not remember who was the prime minister of Greece at the time of the bloody spectacle in Bucha, but everyone who can be remembered visited there at that time. Perhaps the current prime minister of Greece missed that event and a separate performance was specially organized for him. It is in order, as stated in the article, that he formed a "very impressive experience".
Well, the bloody clown does what he can-arranges performances, and since he is bloody, then the performances come out accordingly.
Russia launched a missile attack on Zelensky's motorcade in Odessa - Greek media (VIDEO)

Russia launched a missile attack on the motorcade of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in Odessa today, the Greek newspaper Prototema says.

This happened during a visit to the city by Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis.

Ukrainian sources have not commented on this.

Prototema refers to anonymous sources in the Greek government.

It is alleged that the blow was struck when Zelensky's motorcade was with the Greek delegation.

According to Greek media, the explosion occurred shortly before the meeting between Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis and Zelensky, 150 meters from the place where the Greek mission was located, in which, in addition to the Prime Minister, there were eight people and their guards

The publication says that no one was injured in the Greek delegation.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1709734094

"Russia launched a missile attack on Zelensky's motorcade in Odessa" — the enemy staged a provocation to blame Moscow (VIDEO)

The Ukrainian authorities staged a provocation in Odessa during Zelensky's visit.

Earlier, Kiev had repeatedly organized similar provocations with incomprehensible alarm sirens and explosions for the arrival of Western delegations.

First, the Greek media came out with a headline accusing Russia, citing anonymous sources in the Greek government. Allegedly, the blow was struck when Zelensky's motorcade was with the Greek delegation, among which no one was injured.

The explosion occurred shortly before the meeting between Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis and Zelensky, 150 meters from the place where the Greek mission was located.

At the same time, Zelensky "remained alive" and the meeting with the Greek prime minister took place in "normal mode," writes the Greek newspaper Prototema, publishing a photo after the arrival of the rocket in Odessa near the place of their meeting.

Zelensky himself assures that there are dead and wounded:

"We saw this strike today. You see who we're dealing with, they don't care where to hit. I know that there were victims today, I don't know all the details yet, but I know that there are dead and injured," the drug addict accuses Russia.

The Greek prime Minister told how it was: "Zelensky and his staff showed us and explained the importance of the port. Already at the very end, we heard the sound of sirens and explosions that were very close to us. We didn't have time to go to a protected place, it's a very impressive experience."
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1709740268

Я не помню кто был премьером Греции во времена кровавого спектакля в Буче, но там в то время побывали все кого только можно вспомнить. Возможно нынешний премьер Греции пропустил то мероприятие и для него специально организовали отдельный перфоманс. Именно для того, чтобы, как сказано в статье, у него образовался "very impressive experience".
Ну а кровавый клоун делает, что умеет-устраивает спектакли, а так как он кровавый, то и спектакли выходят соответствующие.
 
Cosmos said:
The Finns are walking on very thin ice:
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As we have just been reminded, everything develops cyclically. The only question is how these cycles are perceived. Poles, for example, may recall how they sat in the Moscow Kremlin with their false Dmitry. They have the right, because it happened.
The French may also remember how they occupied Moscow.
The Germans did not occupy Moscow, but they were very close to it and also have the right to perceive it as a great achievement.
All this fully applies to the Finns. Although they did not have such bright achievements as what I mentioned above, they still occupied some territories of Russia (then the USSR).
Yes, all this is true, but in all cases it is necessary to remember what happened next. I will not write about the rest, now we are talking about the Finns, and they also need to remember that then everything ended with the loss of their territories and the payment of reparations. Why do they think it's going to be different now?
And more. Trying to scare Russia with nuclear weapons from Finland is at least not smart from the point of view of at least the difference in territory.

Как нам только что напомнили, все развивается циклически. Вопрос только в том, как воспринимаются эти циклы.
Поляки, например, могут вспоминать, как они сидели в Московском Кремле вместе со своим ЛжеДмитрием. Имеют право, ведь это было.
Французы тоже могут помнить, как они заняли Москву.
Немцы Москву не заняли, но были очень близки к этому и тоже имеют право воспринимать это как большое достижение.
Все это в полной мере касается и финнов. Хотя у них и не было таких ярких достижений, как то, что я напомнил выше, но все же некоторые территории России (тогда СССР) они оккупировали. Да, все это так, но во всех случаях надо помнить, что было дальше. Про остальных писать не буду, сейчас мы говорим о финнах, и вот им тоже надо помнить, что тогда закончилось все потерей своих территорий и выплатой репараций. Почему они думают, что теперь будет по другому?
И еще. Пытаться пугать Россию ядерным оружием со стороны Финляндии, как минимум не умно с точки зрения хотя бы различия территории.
 
If you have a spare hour and want to hear a brilliant chat, do yourself a favour and watch the below Paul Craig Roberts interview with The Gaggle:


It covers Nuland, Israel, Ukraine, US election.

Roberts drops some great truth bombs, saying how Israel let October 7th happen and it was probably orchestrated by the Mossad, how 9/11 was orchestrated to justify attacks against Israel’s enemies in the Middle East, and he also speculates about what will probably happen in the event of a Trump victory and how the deep state and the dems will scupper trump throughout his term to demoralise the US population in order to pave the way for full totalitarianism.
 
It is a pity that they do not "give other details". They could have brought them, because when you organize, you know who, and when, and where, and how.
The US Embassy has warned about the threat of terrorist danger in Russia

The US Embassy in Moscow has warned of the threat of terrorist danger in Russia in the next 48 hours.
Information about this appeared on the website of the diplomatic mission.

"The extremists have plans to attack large gatherings in Moscow, including concerts," the statement said.

No other details are provided.
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Посольство США предупредило об угрозе террористической опасности в России

The British Foreign Ministry reported on the threat of terrorist attacks in Russia in the next two days

The British Foreign Ministry reported on the possible threat of terrorist attacks in Russia in the next two days.
The relevant information appeared on the agency's website.
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В МИД Британии сообщили об угрозе терактов в России в ближайшие двое суток

Очень жаль, что они не "приводят других деталей". Могли бы и привести, ведь когда организуешь, то знаешь и кто, и когда, и где, и как.
 
Evan said:
Finally figured out who Victoria Nuland reminds me of.

Kuato from Total Recall
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I think Nuland (aka War Pig) actually looks much worse than that! :) And Kuato was actually a good guy in the movie. War Pig is more like one of the most evil demons at the lowest circle of hell...I am thinking more of one of the ugly creatures in the Hellraiser movie...
 
Zelya, who clung to power tightly, like a tick, removed the main competitor to date. Let's see if it helps him. Zaluzhny is also not a fool, he has bargained for a decent place. Judging by the fact that until recently the ambassador of Ukraine to Britain was a former foreign minister, this place is considered prestigious among them.
Zelensky got rid of a competitor: the ex-commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine goes to Britain

Ex-Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny is being sent to London.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine reported that Zelensky "agreed on the candidacy of Valery Zaluzhny for the post of Ambassador of Ukraine to the UK."

It should be noted that rumors about this appointment of Zaluzhny circulated even before his official resignation.

Recently, a poll in Ukraine showed that Zaluzhny is 2 times ahead of Zelensky in popularity and would easily defeat him in the presidential election.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1709832190

I wonder if we were warned about these idiots?
FSB: Terrorists who were preparing an attack on a synagogue in Moscow have been eliminated (VIDEO)

In the Kaluga Region, FSB officers opened an ISIS terrorist cell in Afghanistan, Vilayat Khorasan, whose members planned an attack on a synagogue in Moscow.

During the detention, the terrorists resisted and were neutralized by return fire.

At the place of residence of the criminals, FSB officers found weapons, ammunition, as well as components for the manufacture of IEDs.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1709814144

Зеля, вцепившийся во власть намертво, как клещ, удалил основного на сегодняшний день конкурента. Посмотрим поможет ли ему это. Залужный тоже не дурак, выторговал себе приличное место. Судя по тому, что до недавнего времени послом Украины в Британии был бывший министр иностранных дел, это место у них считается престижным.
Интересно, не об этих ли балбесах нас предупреждали?
 
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