For whatever it's worth, a really interesting interview with Dr. Jerome Corsi and his analysis on some of the Q post.
Q source / Qanon
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Rhythmik
Jedi Master
The similarity I've noticed between Q and the C's is how Q generally doesn't give us all of the info or disclose too much directly. He asks us important questions which inspires observers to want to answer them by doing research themselves. I was wondering why it was posting such cryptic and puzzling codes and riddles, but then I see "anons" (anonymous online investigators) doing some remarkable decoding and detective work together. The source repeatedly says "learn to read the map". Whoever it is, he's getting a lot of people to think.
angelburst29 - funny you mention Queen.
On Dec 19th Q posted (I removed some in the middle):
Shall we play a game?
Map is critical to understand.
Future unlocks past.
DECLAS_ATL_(past).
News unlocks map.
Find the markers.
How about a nice game of chess?
SPLASH.
FOX THREE.
Q
On the 23rd December Q posted:
>>148634
MISSILE.
MISSLE.
FOX THREE.
SPLASH.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
RED_OCTOBER>
Q
Julien Assange tweeted out a chessboard on Jan 13, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/415802-assange-cryptic-chess-tweet/
Saturday 13th was also the "fake ballistic missile" threat and subsequent oops correction that was sent to the residents of Hawaii.
Now look at this, a post by an anon that attempts to explain the code:
https://qcodefag.github.io/data/images/c3dbf3952de6613050b5a77c865d445566e0315bb201f6b428a81f768bfe07b3.png
Anon: "Chess fag saysssss.
JA's chessboard is a famous game with a deadly move that was thwarted by the world champ in 1918.
This comes on the day of Trump's zero tweet marker.
Next move on JA's chess board is (are you ready for this?
Qf3 = Queen to f3
Q FOX THREE"
Q's reply:
>>42090
Impressive, anon!
Q
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So that is Q confirming the anon's deciphering the link between Q posts, Assange and the missile. The symbolism behind the chess game that Assange tweeted is also important. Some are saying that an actual missile was fired by a Deep State sub at Hawaii as a desperation attempt to blame North Korea and kick off a major conflict (hence the suspicious alert and 38min wait before the correction) "SPLASH" = it didn't reach its target as Q/Alliance/Trump admin was aware and intercepted it. "RED_OCTOBER>" - the movie Hunt For Red October depicts a rogue submarine that fires a torpedo which ends up backfiring and destroying itself.
angelburst29 - funny you mention Queen.
On Dec 19th Q posted (I removed some in the middle):
Shall we play a game?
Map is critical to understand.
Future unlocks past.
DECLAS_ATL_(past).
News unlocks map.
Find the markers.
How about a nice game of chess?
SPLASH.
FOX THREE.
Q
On the 23rd December Q posted:
>>148634
MISSILE.
MISSLE.
FOX THREE.
SPLASH.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
RED_OCTOBER>
Q
Julien Assange tweeted out a chessboard on Jan 13, 2018
https://www.rt.com/news/415802-assange-cryptic-chess-tweet/
Saturday 13th was also the "fake ballistic missile" threat and subsequent oops correction that was sent to the residents of Hawaii.
Now look at this, a post by an anon that attempts to explain the code:
https://qcodefag.github.io/data/images/c3dbf3952de6613050b5a77c865d445566e0315bb201f6b428a81f768bfe07b3.png
Anon: "Chess fag saysssss.
JA's chessboard is a famous game with a deadly move that was thwarted by the world champ in 1918.
This comes on the day of Trump's zero tweet marker.
Next move on JA's chess board is (are you ready for this?
Qf3 = Queen to f3
Q FOX THREE"
Q's reply:
>>42090
Impressive, anon!
Q
--------------------------------------------------
So that is Q confirming the anon's deciphering the link between Q posts, Assange and the missile. The symbolism behind the chess game that Assange tweeted is also important. Some are saying that an actual missile was fired by a Deep State sub at Hawaii as a desperation attempt to blame North Korea and kick off a major conflict (hence the suspicious alert and 38min wait before the correction) "SPLASH" = it didn't reach its target as Q/Alliance/Trump admin was aware and intercepted it. "RED_OCTOBER>" - the movie Hunt For Red October depicts a rogue submarine that fires a torpedo which ends up backfiring and destroying itself.
Rhythmik
Jedi Master
Related to Hawaii, I just watched this. Jordan Sather is the only one I've seen who attempts to link what's happening/Qanon with the ET phenomenon. It would be nice to ask the C's whether a missile was actually fired at Hawaii? Days later, Japan also received a fake missile warning to anyone who had the state broadcaster NHK app on their phone. This alert specifically said North Korea however it was corrected in just a few mins.
(1:57 - 8:10) Destroying The Illusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8VDK89xXzg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m57s
Quoted article: The Secret Navy behind the Ballistic Missile Attack on Hawaii (Dr Michael Salla)
http://exopolitics.org/he-secret-navy-behind-the-ballistic-missile-attack-on-hawaii/
EDIT: Q just now dropped a few very interesting posts.
https://qcodefag.github.io/ (top of the page 567-569)
(1:57 - 8:10) Destroying The Illusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8VDK89xXzg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m57s
Quoted article: The Secret Navy behind the Ballistic Missile Attack on Hawaii (Dr Michael Salla)
http://exopolitics.org/he-secret-navy-behind-the-ballistic-missile-attack-on-hawaii/
EDIT: Q just now dropped a few very interesting posts.
https://qcodefag.github.io/ (top of the page 567-569)
meta-agnostic
Jedi Master
I can see why repeated use of the term "patriot" would be annoying to people here. It seems to be a way to get more mainstream/less esoteric-oriented people to look past the whole Democrat/Republican divide and realize that something needs to be done about the Evil behind it all. Folks like us are perfectly capable of ignoring it or looking past it, but it does require some looking past.
I'll go ahead and quote the newest substantive Q post so people can see what they make of it:
I'll go ahead and quote the newest substantive Q post so people can see what they make of it:
Q said:
Q always says how he and the "good guys" he represents are fighting a secret war against the deep state, etc. Isn't this just the same as all the feel-good fake channeling messages about how the "brotherhood of light" or whatever is behind the scenes fighting the evil "cabal" and victory is just around the corner, just as with Q. In fact victory is always "just around the corner" - just have faith, and know that someone with a lot of power is fighting for your interests, so you can sit back and relax. It's rather dis-empowering isn't it?
The C's on the other hand stress that knowledge protects - and our safety and future depends on what we do with the knowledge we manage to obtain.
Trump has the same message - HE will "make America great again". It's disempowering - it makes people, for the umpteenth time, just trust that someone will take care of the bad stuff for them. But let's be realistic - putting all your eggs into a basket of "some hidden good guys" is why things never change - it's exactly what the bad guys want you to do, rather than take matters into your own hands and unite with other like-minded people and network.
So take the above together with the fact that Q is using the same terminology as /r/The_Donald and clearly pandering to the Trump supporter base, makes the whole damn thing suspect. It's stringing people along with words they like to hear and gives them false hope that someone else is fighting the fight, so they don't have to. Where is the personal responsibility, the knowledge, the networking? This isn't how the world works - nothing good was ever done "from above", and when people put their trust in a "power" on their behalf, they always lose. Only when grass roots mobilization of those who see a problem and were sufficiently motivated by suffering to personally fight for something did change actually happen.
So it's interesting, but I'm not sold that this will lead to any of those grandiose promises of essentially "salvation" and "swamp draining" that are being made.
And for the record I'm not saying there aren't decent people in powerful positions who are trying to stave off the deep state. But a small group like that is easily co-opted or dealt with, because they basically become a very neatly packaged target to the deep state, which also "sees everything". It's much harder to deal with a run-away awakening/frustration of a large group of people, however, because you can't really "heart attack gun" that problem away, or personally threaten/bribe your way out, etc.
It would be great if there are people in power fighting for truth and justice from the shadows, but those people and what they're doing is only hidden from the average person, not from the PTB - who monitor all lines and sources of communication. I don't see the pathocracy going down without throwing every card on the table first, and without a massive effort by the population itself - any individuals or small groups will be "taken care of" in a myriad of ways.
The cryptic clues are also kinda off-putting - it seems many of the clues are unnecessarily cryptic.
The C's on the other hand stress that knowledge protects - and our safety and future depends on what we do with the knowledge we manage to obtain.
Trump has the same message - HE will "make America great again". It's disempowering - it makes people, for the umpteenth time, just trust that someone will take care of the bad stuff for them. But let's be realistic - putting all your eggs into a basket of "some hidden good guys" is why things never change - it's exactly what the bad guys want you to do, rather than take matters into your own hands and unite with other like-minded people and network.
So take the above together with the fact that Q is using the same terminology as /r/The_Donald and clearly pandering to the Trump supporter base, makes the whole damn thing suspect. It's stringing people along with words they like to hear and gives them false hope that someone else is fighting the fight, so they don't have to. Where is the personal responsibility, the knowledge, the networking? This isn't how the world works - nothing good was ever done "from above", and when people put their trust in a "power" on their behalf, they always lose. Only when grass roots mobilization of those who see a problem and were sufficiently motivated by suffering to personally fight for something did change actually happen.
So it's interesting, but I'm not sold that this will lead to any of those grandiose promises of essentially "salvation" and "swamp draining" that are being made.
And for the record I'm not saying there aren't decent people in powerful positions who are trying to stave off the deep state. But a small group like that is easily co-opted or dealt with, because they basically become a very neatly packaged target to the deep state, which also "sees everything". It's much harder to deal with a run-away awakening/frustration of a large group of people, however, because you can't really "heart attack gun" that problem away, or personally threaten/bribe your way out, etc.
It would be great if there are people in power fighting for truth and justice from the shadows, but those people and what they're doing is only hidden from the average person, not from the PTB - who monitor all lines and sources of communication. I don't see the pathocracy going down without throwing every card on the table first, and without a massive effort by the population itself - any individuals or small groups will be "taken care of" in a myriad of ways.
The cryptic clues are also kinda off-putting - it seems many of the clues are unnecessarily cryptic.
meta-agnostic
Jedi Master
Well, again, I'm newer to it than some others here, but it does seem like Q is asking for action from those who follow him/her/them/it. Both in terms of research of the questions asked and clues dropped, and things like flooding twitter with hashtags like #ReleaseTheMemo, which I've seen some of us take a liking to. So I think it's a matter of perspective and familiarity as to how 'disempowering' it actually is.
Edit: to respond to the additional part about cryptic clues: agreed, those can get annoying and they seem to have driven some people away (i.e. Roy Potter) but some of those same people may still be more involved than they were before Q came along.
Edit: to respond to the additional part about cryptic clues: agreed, those can get annoying and they seem to have driven some people away (i.e. Roy Potter) but some of those same people may still be more involved than they were before Q came along.
SAO said:
The "clues" are so vague as to allow anyone to read almost anything in to them, effectively rendering them useless (not that I think they were ever useful or intended as such).
IMO, people put too much stock in the idea of someone 'leaking' super secret info. and not enough in human beings' insatiable desire for attention and tendency to do whatever it takes to get it.
Joe said:
I agree. I curiously looked into the Q phenomenon peripherally a few weeks back because it seemed to be getting a lot of traction on twitter. But what I was left with was the question "why all the cryptic BS?" It seems to me that if there was really someone trying to leak info, they wouldn't take the time to make a bunch of codes and puzzles, they'd just get to the freakin' point! It also seems to be similar to the Nostradamus phenomenon - if you state things cryptically, people will ascribe meaning after the fact. If Q says "Boom", then any explosion in the coming weeks will be looked at as an affirmation (even if it's completely unrelated). I haven't taken a deep dive into it, but so far I haven't seen anything that seemed to be prescient.
That and the whole "Trump will save us" theme to it all just left a bad taste in my mouth. I could be wrong, but I'm not betting on Q being legit. I think it's just someone/a group playing games.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Joe said:
I can reason with your position and in some cases, I could agree with your sentiment but in this situation with Q giving out "so called cryptic messages" it might warrant a deeper look? The messages are basically "clues" to look for in the news headlines.
When I first came aware of Q, there had already been several weeks worth of messages. My first impression was that it was some kind of mumbo-jumbo, I couldn't make "heads or tails of it" ... so I found a link to the first postings and started there and worked my way up to the current messages. Once you get acquainted with the format and the way the messages are delivered and take the time to check out some of the comments, the clues don't look so cryptic.
Rhiannon Posted an interesting interview with Dr. Corsi, where he mentions Charles Ortel, who has also been working on the messages. Both agree, the messages didn't make much sense until they looked deeper into the clues. The video Rhiannon Posted gives a better explanation. Corsi also goes into some detail, of how several commenters "questioned several messages claiming to be Q" in the beginning of January because they had a different "feel" to them. Further investigation found it was a different IP address, then what Q was delivering his messages from, which Q later confirmed was not from him.
I can give two examples from recent Q messages:
Pakistan (Aid)
Before Noon the next day, Trump announced he was cutting off aid to Pakistan, "accusing Islamabad of “lies & deceit” and of giving “safe haven to the terrorists (Taliban) we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help.” Within hours, news coming out of the different outlets in the Middle East were claiming that "Trump just cut off Million's of dollars worth of humanitarian aid" and that now, Pakistan was asking the U.N. for help. The impression given was that Trump was cutting off "food and medical aid".
Digging deeper, it was Sec. of State Clinton and Prez Obama who signed off on aid to Pakistan, sent directly to the Pakistani Government in the form of "Foreign Aid". Following the money, the Pakistani Government was acting as the Middleman - transferring a good chunk (minus kick backs) of the Foreign Aid to the Taliban and the Haqqani Network in Afghanistan. That's the (aid) Trump cut off!
Two weeks later, the Afghan Taliban is in Pakistan with a delegation of 5 (for Peace talks?)
My guess, the US-funded radio station was part of the foreign aid package?
Palestine (Aid)
Trump has cut off $65 million worth of aid to the Palestinian UN Relief Fund (UNRWA) which goes to the Palestinian Authority. The U.S. still allocates $60 million to other Palestinian programs, which taken together was $125 million a year. The question is, "Why did Trump cut aid to UNRWA?" Because "the bulk of US aid to the PA ... goes on security for the Israelis through the Palestinian Authority’s 70,000 security personnel."
So why is the media claiming that Trump is cutting off "emergency food assistance and other support"?
In both of these Q messages, advance notice of a day or two was given before announcements from the WH cutting off (Aid).
angelburst29
The Living Force
Just a note on the Palestinian Aid:
The US donated $355 million in 2016 and was set to make a similar contribution this year; the first installment was to have been sent this month.
But after a highly critical Jan. 2 tweet from Trump on aid to the Palestinians, the State Department opted to wait for a formal policy decision before sending any of the $125 million.
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1226536/middle-east
The US donated $355 million in 2016 and was set to make a similar contribution this year; the first installment was to have been sent this month.
But after a highly critical Jan. 2 tweet from Trump on aid to the Palestinians, the State Department opted to wait for a formal policy decision before sending any of the $125 million.
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1226536/middle-east
Eulenspiegel
Jedi Master
Joe said:
Receiving widespread attention usually indicates falsehood, sadly. Hope I am wrong though!
Rhythmik
Jedi Master
Pizzagate/Pedogate received widespread attention on the internet and we all know what's happening there.
This is how the MSM is explaining it:
The Storm Is the New Pizzagate — Only Worse
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/12/qanon-4chan-the-storm-conspiracy-explained.html
Infowars fully embraces “The Storm,” a conspiracy theory called “the new Pizzagate”
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/01/08/infowars-fully-embraces-storm-conspiracy-theory-called-new-pizzagate/219005
This is how the MSM is explaining it:
The Storm Is the New Pizzagate — Only Worse
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/12/qanon-4chan-the-storm-conspiracy-explained.html
Infowars fully embraces “The Storm,” a conspiracy theory called “the new Pizzagate”
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/01/08/infowars-fully-embraces-storm-conspiracy-theory-called-new-pizzagate/219005
