Question(s) for the C's?

[Laura]

I can only suggest that you read The Wave to see how the process works. More often than not, the Cs will say "keep digging" and "network" and so forth.

Keep in mind also that I spent my entire life searching and researching for answers before I even began the Cs experiment. And that was only because of being brought face to face with the UFO/alien question. After a couple years reading everything I could get my hands on, I realized that I wasn't gonna be able to figure this out because there just wasn't anything but endless confusion. I also saw the strong correlation between that phenomenon and the paranormal. I had thought I had the whole paranormal thing figured out after years and years, but this just blew everything out of the water. So I was back to square one and nowhere else to go.

That's kinda where you have to be to really ASK. Have you REALLY done all the work you can possibly do on the topic? Have you experimented with it? Tried it yourself? Have you asked a lot of other people about it? Have to collected hard data?

Ask yourself those questions about any question you want to ask and if you haven't done all that work, you can bet that the answer is gonna be "keep digging, network, do your homework." Or something similar.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=Bjorn]Is it crucial to learn a lesson which this question well I don't really see how, but maybe it is its just that i am curious above all.[/quote]

[quote author=PepperFritz]I'm wondering if you read this post of Laura's earlier in the thread, and to what degree you think that your question respects her request for External Consideration?[/quote]

I mean ed this kind of curiosity

internal considering, is rooted in attachment to a subjective inner state, to ones own comfort of preconceptions or desires.

Still sometimes it can lead towards something objective.

[quote author=Cassiopaeans]Emotion is a necessary component of life in 3rd density. It can be of great assistance, and it can also be a hindrance.[/quote]

By saying it was out curiosity was that I could show that my motivation was not completely for external consideration

[quote author=Cassiopaeans]And, as we know, obsession blocks knowledge which in turn blocks the ability to protect oneself against negative occurrences.[/quote]

Knowing that I am not by emotion strong attached to the question or answer that may follow I though like I told it can lead to something. But still by realizing my curiosity I though that before sending it, it would be wise to see what others think about it taking there consideration in and by that deciding If I would take the approach by sending it to sott@net.


Anyway by taking in Gurdjieff accounts:

Any evolution of humanity can take place only through the evolution of a group of conscious people. If there were 200 conscious people, they could change life on earth. There may not be enough people in the group , or they may not wish to effect change, or it may not be the right time to effect change for humanity. We on the outer circle of humanity cannot know about these people until we become like them. They have:

attained the highest development possible for man, each one of whom possesses individuality in the fullest degree, that is to say, an indivisible 'I', all forms of consciousness possible for man, full control over these states of consciousness, the whole of knowledge possible for man, and a free and independent will.

Obviously Gurdjieff was focused on that number so I though lets try to figure something out of it.

By saying I didn't think it would be usefull ,I mean my view with this I think that its more important to try to figure out our machine and by that trying to see creation like it is. If we get ‘tools’ along the way to accelerate the process great but with mine question I couldn't see directly how. But still curiosity can sometimes lead to something.

 

[Ca.]

Thanks for this intriguing opportunity .........What will be a the best approach for a quick and effect way ( if at all possible ) to rid ones body the poisons for the coming forced inoculations .................certain ideas that have come to mind have been related to diet, fasting, exercise and water with minerails certain vitamins , electrolytes, coupled with saunas, steam and heat driven type................and asap after receiving the injection as if a means to accelerate riding the junk to the body faster like purging .....? i realise that this may not be safe for any or everyone including myself hence my curry......................?

 

[PepperFritz]

Still sometimes it can lead towards something objective... But still curiosity can sometimes lead to something...

But the question remains: Are you being Externally Considerate towards Laura by asking her to expend her limited energy asking the C's a question, the primary value of which is to satisfy your "curiosity"?

I will direct you to Laura's most recent post in this thread, in the hope that the penny may drop for you (but, somehow, I doubt that it will if it hasn't by now....):

Keep in mind also that I spent my entire life searching and researching for answers before I even began the Cs experiment. And that was only because of being brought face to face with the UFO/alien question. After a couple years reading everything I could get my hands on, I realized that I wasn't gonna be able to figure this out because there just wasn't anything but endless confusion. I also saw the strong correlation between that phenomenon and the paranormal. I had thought I had the whole paranormal thing figured out after years and years, but this just blew everything out of the water. So I was back to square one and nowhere else to go.

That's kinda where you have to be to really ASK. Have you REALLY done all the work you can possibly do on the topic? Have you experimented with it? Tried it yourself? Have you asked a lot of other people about it? Have to collected hard data?

Ask yourself those questions about any question you want to ask and if you haven't done all that work, you can bet that the answer is gonna be "keep digging, network, do your homework." Or something similar.

 

[Laura]

I have no objection to asking questions about things that one is not likely to figure out on their own, or there are no sources, or the ones that do exist are confusing. In those cases, I hope it is a somewhat universally interesting question. Ya'll notice that I ask a lot of history questions because that is what interests me. Maybe history doesn't interest everybody though I think it should. But then, if the Cs are me "in the future," I guess they like the history questions too.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=PepperFritz]Are you being Externally Considerate towards Laura by asking her to expend her limited energy asking the C's a question, the primary value of which is to satisfy your "curiosity"?[/quote]

I answered that already. But let me try again

So am I externally considerate towards Laura, no I am not a part of mine asked her to spend her limited energy to satisfy yes my own comfort and desire. The need to feel ‘special’. I tried to make that clear. Also an other part of mine hopes that its universally interesting.

To find things interesting and to be curious it would be for the best interest that it has some objective truth. Being it universally interesting. I just could asked my question with the little data I had to tell why it could be interesting on the other hand the motivation is most important it can be the difference in truly seeking or seeking a reason to feel special.

Both was happening. I wont lie to you and especially not against myself. To overcoming emotions you have to admit them also the ‘ugly’ ones. If I wouldn't I will deny myself the opportunity to learn a lesson.



[quote author=Laura]Maybe history doesn't interest everybody though I think it should. But then, if the Cs are me "in the future," I guess they like the history questions too.[/quote]

according to this its not the love and like we experience.

[quote author=Cassiopaeans]Q: (L) I have a question - do you guys have emotions...
A: Not 3rd level.
Q: (L) Okay, well, then let me ask it this way. What are your
thoughts towards us, or your attitude or emotions, as you know them
towards us? Individually or as a group?
A: Love[/quote]

 

[John G]

Also an other part of mine hopes that its universally interesting.

... according to this its not the love and like we experience.

[quote author=Cassiopaeans]Q: (L) I have a question - do you guys have emotions...
A: Not 3rd level.
Q: (L) Okay, well, then let me ask it this way. What are your
thoughts towards us, or your attitude or emotions, as you know them
towards us? Individually or as a group?
A: Love

[/quote]

I know it was asked what the world population was before the plague (aka comet) and the population before the fall could be interesting to some. I think one problem is that unlike reading recent sessions, the questions here read like totally unrelated questions popping out of any direction (like a spirograph of comets) so it reads like one is getting bombarded. Kind of hard to avoid that since we're a bunch of different people. We probably do need to start getting questions and backing info put into a more one voice sounding list.

The Cs also say 6th density is always fun so even without emotions there's apparently still fun still mirth.

Since I'm here, although I'd phrase Xman's question differently, I like those quantum fractal/spacetime dimensions questions, certainly wouldn't complain about Ark getting more question time. My wife would very much like more detailed information about what might happen with parents and children at that five years from now, year zero time. I also like the find a Nordic/find an Orion questions, I think one was asked here earlier and the subject came up in one of the three recent sessions. Specifically, how would one have discernment in this area, I'm not sure how I'd ever tell the difference between a real one and a clever CIA 4th density STS technology assisted setup. There's actually really a guy that me and my wife mostly jokingly call 4th density.

 

[anart]

So am I externally considerate towards Laura, no I am not a part of mine asked her to spend her limited energy to satisfy yes my own comfort and desire. The need to feel ‘special’. I tried to make that clear. Also an other part of mine hopes that its universally interesting.

To find things interesting and to be curious it would be for the best interest that it has some objective truth. Being it universally interesting. I just could asked my question with the little data I had to tell why it could be interesting on the other hand the motivation is most important it can be the difference in truly seeking or seeking a reason to feel special.

Both was happening. I wont lie to you and especially not against myself. To overcoming emotions you have to admit them also the ‘ugly’ ones. If I wouldn't I will deny myself the opportunity to learn a lesson.

For what it's worth, Bjorn, I think that makes perfect sense.

 

[Iconoclast]

i not sure how important it would be to know the answers to these questions, probably not much, but it would be really interesting to know the truth about all the strange 'celebrity deaths' (jim morrison, jimi hendrix, janis joplin, brian jones, kurt cobain, natalie wood, elvis presley, john lennon and even michael jackson)

could be formulated thusly:

when did [name] die?
cause of death?
responsible party?

and also the rumor that paul mccartney died and was replaced by a double has not gone away over the years.


i certainly don't expect these questions to be answered since they seem kinda trivial, but in case there is interest, i could compile a list of all the people with the official dates & causes of death to verify against.

additionally a percentual estimate of the truth-content of the 'laurel canyon' series would be interesting.



the C's are probably the only way to get some real information on all these deaths...

 

[bjorb]

[quote author= Iconoclast] I not sure how important it would be to know the answers to these questions, probably not much, but it would be really interesting to know the truth about all the strange 'celebrity deaths'[/quote]

So called ‘celebrity’s' always take with them a lot of influence. This influence gives them power, there words and actions are heard.

Here we have the opportunity to follow the ‘celebrity life’ non stop. They are everywhere. They tell you how to life, how to think and once in a time to shame on them, giving people again some material to talk about. You cant ignore this celebrity obsession is really a big thing in our world for distraction reasons most likely.

Still if they may use this influence and will tell people certain aspect of reality that may challenge the status quo certain actions may happen to counter it.

Realizing their role in this world I think that the questions can be universally interesting. Also I like to add the question, why did they die? With this you may get the answer where he/she was into. Which can lead to something, of course it can be a distraction also.

 

[MilkoJanovich]

First of all, thanks for giving us this great opportunity! :)


I would like to ask a question about Edgar Cayce’s view on astrology. He interpreted many horoscopes and gave a lot of information on that subject. Here is the link to some of what he said about astrology.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5692/astro.htm


Some parts of it:


“ (Question) Is it proper for us to study the effects of the planets on our lives in order to better understand our tendencies and inclinations, as influenced by the planets?
(EC) When studied aright, very, very, very much so. How aright then? In that influence as is seen in the influence of the knowledge already obtained by mortal man. Give more of that into the lives, giving the understanding THAT THE WILL MUST BE THE EVER GUIDING FACTOR TO LEAD MAN ON, EVER UPWARD.
(Question) In what way should astrology be used to help man live better in the present physical plane?
(EC) In that which the position of the planets give the tendencies in a given life, without reference to the will. Then let man, the individual, understand how WILL may overcome, for we all must overcome, if we would, in any wise, enter in. Not that the position gives man the transport, but that that force as manifested in the creation of man wherein choice between the good and evil, exercising highest will force, may be manifested the greater in man. DO THAT. „

What Cayce said on this subject is in many parts similar to the view of modern, humanistic astrology or astropsychology which doesn’t predict the events in future. One of the most popular astrologists of 20th century was S. Arroyo who even used some information from Cayce’s teachings in his own work. I know that Laura uses astrology so I hope this question want be commented negatively (many people think about astrology as if it was “mambo jumbo” kind of stuff and basing this opinion on experience with newspaper’s solar astrology based only on Sun position in Zodiac which, as I think, dirties astrology’s image). Nevertheless, I study it for maybe only two years but it become my real passion since I found it really works.

I wonder what does Cs’ think about using astrology in this let’s say Cayce’s way, how correct in general are Cayce’s readings on astrology and I have many other more detailed questions on that subject but want to ask them later because I don’t know if I write clearly enough to be understood by others.

 

[Joe]

Okay, one question pertinent to current developments:

Credo Mutwa once said that inoculations / vaccines spiritually blinds Africans (I would think that this applies to all races if true), and talked of how they would trick the authorities in helping the kids escape inoculation / vaccination.

Considering that we live in a conscious universe, and that spiritual growth is what matters; is there truth in what he said, in that whatever is inside the vaccines can have a detrimental effect on spiritual growth as well, apart from the intended population reduction (as we suspect)?

So in other words, not just physically detrimental, but spiritually detrimental as well. I hope this question is not too outrageous...

That one seems pretty easy to answer. If vaccines make us more susceptible to dying from "pig flu" then that would certainly have a detrimental effect on spiritual growth if being in the body and learning in the body lessons is necessary at this point in time for spiritual growth.

 

[Joe]

I've got a coulpe of question, yes:

-What are their plans with our people and with all over Latinamerica?
-What "%" of Organic Portals are currently in Argentina?
-What should we expect in this area when the "time comes"? (Volcanos, earthquakes, other climatic issues)
-Why is UK so concerned in keeping their bases near to the South Pole and occupying "our" Islas Malvinas?
-Why USA is buying Argentina's south territory?
-Is blood type related to the genetical condition to have an individual soul?

Sorry if those questions are not clear, you can avoid any question if you consider it useless. That's all

These can be guessed pretty closely I think:

Plans for people in Latin America are probably the same as plans for people all over the world.

Percentage of "OPs" in Latin America can be around 50%

When the "time comes" cataclysms will happen in many places, probably still not determinable.

UK likes Islas Malvnias because UK has always liked Empire for many reasons.

USA is buying land all over the world to expand empire (and maybe build bases for protection from cataclysms)

The Cs have said that soul marries to genetics if present. But all blood types are probably spread across the genetic profile required for sould to marry.

 

[Erna]

[quote author=Perceval]
That one seems pretty easy to answer. If vaccines make us more susceptible to dying from "pig flu" then that would certainly have a detrimental effect on spiritual growth if being in the body and learning in the body lessons is necessary at this point in time for spiritual growth.
[/quote]

No sure :P, I meant if you don't die. I also meant the coming pandemic vaccine + other vaccines in general, since people generally survive vaccines. I asked my mom yesterday if I was vaccinated as a child, and she proudly answered in the affirmative - the whole lot. They also inoculated us in primary school, and I'm physically fit as a fiddle. I don't even know what a headache is…

So Credo Mutwa’s comment just made me wonder.

 

[Joe]

Well what about a compromised immune system that doesn't cause death but just leaves you persistently ill with low physical and mental energy?