Quinton Plasma/Water, or "percutaneous hydrotomy"

[Laura]

I got some Quinton water on Amazon, no practitioners anywhere in sight so I'm just gonna drink it, I guess. The directions on the box said take 1-4 vials daily on an empty stomach. The stuff was $44 for a box of 30 vials so taking the max dosage, the supply only lasts like a week.

One a day to start is good. My brother is putting 1/4 to 1/2 tsp in his nebulizer and getting very good results for his COPD. I've been thinking about nebulizing it too since that might be a good way to get it in the system without injections.

I had my fourth treatment today and she changed the composition of the drip. Chu can tell you want it was. Anyway, it hurt a LOT for about ten minutes and then, I guess the pain relieving ingredient started kicking in. After that, it was okay.

The back drip is not the most pleasant procedure I've ever undergone but the results really are good so far. And I'm willing to go to the end if it will enable me to walk and stand and do stuff without pain.

 

[Chu]

I had my fourth treatment today and she changed the composition of the drip. Chu can tell you want it was.

It was:
Sodium Chloride (for dilution)
Xylocaine
Magnesium
The Vit. B cocktail
Pentoxiphiline
Ketoprophene
A super mix of amioacids. I didn't write down all the names, but I remember L-arginine, L-Lysine, L-Glycine, L-Tyrosine, L-Taurine, L-Tryptofan, L-Leucine and about 4 more.

 

[worldbridger]

Just ordered 1000 ml Biocean Hypertonic Amp Quinton-Energetica Natura from Pharmonet Belgium, total cost €66. Taking orally until I can get hold of cocktails….reports will follow.

 

[Laura]

Just ordered 1000 ml Biocean Hypertonic Amp Quinton-Energetica Natura from Pharmonet Belgium, total cost €66. Taking orally until I can get hold of cocktails….reports will follow.

If you read the literature, apparently Quinton was just using Quinton water alone for his miraculous cures. A friend of ours (the one who told us about it) says he has used just the water (isotonic) for subcutaneous injection for numerous issues with apparently good results. But I think it was not approved for injection after modern times took over because it can't be "pasteurized" without losing its effect even though it is purified by a special process.

 

[Seamus]

Very interesting thread, thanks for sharing. I'm happy to hear about the positive early results. Laura, now that your knees are better if this fixes up your back you'll be like a new woman!

 

[Chu]

Just ordered 1000 ml Biocean Hypertonic Amp Quinton-Energetica Natura from Pharmonet Belgium, total cost €66. Taking orally until I can get hold of cocktails….reports will follow.

Have you read up on the differences between hypertonic and isotonic water, how much to take, and what to expect?

Fingers crossed for you!

 

[Laura]

Yeah, hypertonic is pretty rough; prolly should only drink it.

 

[worldbridger]

Well, can't say I've done some extensive research, but I will only drink this according to the recommendations the company gave and they seem to match what I've read on other places, I'll go slow. I don't think you can or should inject this, probably hurt like hell, I guess that is one of the reasons they also use anesthetics in the cocktails.

Hyper vs Iso: http://www.resourcesforlife.net/img/cms/Hypertonic v Isotonic.pdf

Seems to fit my profile.

Thanks

 

[Zar]

This is pretty amazing stuff. Makes you wonder what other wonderful practices have been smothered by big pharma.

Yesterday we went to the nurse again, and I learned some cool stuff, just asking her questions. This is just what she said, FWIW.

1) For people with a heart condition: the treatment is totally safe. In her opinion, the best is to start drinking Quinton water and doing a 3 month cure. She claims that that can go a long way in cleansing all the internal organs and reinforcing the immune system. THEN, injections in localized areas if the person is suffering from bone problems. The reason to do it in that order is so that the detox reaction is not so strong. Otherwise, the EDTA may be a bit too rough on the system. She also reduces the volume of EDTA, just in case.

.......

Due to a terrifying incident with my niece last year, my family is now getting checked for Low QT Syndrome(heart condition). So far my two older siblings have it, and the rest of us are on a wait list to get tested. I already have Wolf Parkisons White(a different heart condition) and hopefully not Low QT but will see. That being said we are Spanish citizens and they visit Spain quite often so I'll definitely try this out and run it by the lot of them once they get tested.

 

[worldbridger]

Ok, I need both immediate/acute relief from my pain (therefore Carbocaine or similar, explained why in earlier posts) so I can endure long term, or at all. Maybe Quinton works, maybe not. For me this is another treatment that works and that people report progress and gives hope, but I've been here before if you know what I mean, too many times. But I will give it a try. I think Gaby mentioned that a person could stop morfin efter 2 treatments…well.

Laura/Chu:

How easy and fast can I get an appointment or appointments at that local practitioner in France to do a couple of treatments/cocktails?
What does the doctor need in terms of medical journals/background etc?
How does it work? 2 days in a row, then wait a week few days? Or?

Trying to work out how long I'll have to stay and total cost…

Also, do you know if I need any permit from french authorities for my opiates, benzos and maybe Prednisolone, or is it enough to just have a certificate from my doctor? According to the French embassy here you need a Schengen Permit, but I also need to know for how long I will stay, because they are very strict when it comes to narcotic meds.

 

[Laura]

WB,
Apologies if I missed this, but WHY do you take so many painkillers? What exactly is your diagnosis?

No idea regarding the law in France, but probably the best would be to try and reduce painkillers before traveling anywhere.

The nurse would adapt, but it would probably be an appointment every 5 or 7 days. Most people do a minimum of 6 injections over a period of about a month and a half. She doesn't need any medical background unless you want to show it to her.

She also doesn't speak any English, and the place is 35mins away from here. Are you asking if you can stay here, or were you planning on renting a place near her?

You see, if you were to stay here, someone would have to drive you back and forth, and be there to translate for you if you don't speak any French. So, you need to consider those factors as well because, with our summer schedule in full swing, we are pretty busy already.

Perhaps the best thing for you to do at this point is as you had already planned to do, that is, take the Quinton water and see how things develop.

 

[worldbridger]

Because it hurts like hell, started taking Oxy 8 months ago when the pain suddenly exploded and made me climb the walls, they were convinced (and me too) that I had kidney stones, but no. My "diagnosis" are ME/CFS and Neuropathy, not established in any way, just spitted out. Idiotic, sorry, idiopathic pain might be the diagnosis.

Can't reduce them at the moment, just impossible. That's why I tried RF (private MP, remittance via insurance system was 7 months) and asked my MP and other private MPs and/or specialists I've met to replace the Oxy/Stesolid/Prednisolone with Carbocaine, because it works better and have no or very little side effects compared to the others, AND they don't mess with my sleep, stomach and every thing else. So far, no luck.

No, I didn't expect to stay at your place or help with translation, or a ride, I know how busy you are. I had a B&B in mind and maybe do an intense treatment over a week or two. Besides, I need solitude and I can't be helpful in anyway, just be a load.

I'm running on fumes here, don't know how long I can endure, weeks, months, don't know really. Maybe RF and Quinton can reduce the pain/inflammation or brake the pain loop to a level so I can reduce the painkillers or eliminate them, it will take everything from a week to 4-5 weeks before the RF takes effect, it varies from person to person.

Just checking my options….but this doesn't seem to be one of them, not at the moment anyway.

 

[LQB]

Just checking my options….but this doesn't seem to be one of them, not at the moment anyway.

WB - one option is to tank up on certain supps that are known to be a big help in replenishing healthy mitochondria, and see if you get some relief. In the book Mitochondria and the Future of Medicine (by Lee Know ND), Know tells a pretty convincing story about the likelihood that most chronic conditions have root cause in poor mitochondia (energy production). Many of the diseases that we name are just consequences of poor energy production. He addresses and explains the "idiopathic" pain associated with CFS/fibromyalgia at the energy production level. According to Know, the primary supps are:

d-Ribose
PQQ
Ubiquinol (form of coQ10)
L-Carnitine
Magnesium
ALA
B vitamins + others

The book is very well-referenced (and easy read) with a good section on just the above supps.

 

[worldbridger]

Thanks LQB, but done that for years + many, many other protocols.

 

[Laura]

Thanks LQB, but done that for years + many, many other protocols.

How would you rate your pain on a scale of 1 to 10? Where is is localized?

It appears to me as though your body is saying "no" to something and there is a war going on inside you. Have you read "When the Body Says 'No'" ? Also, NeurOptimal brain training might be a first step along with taking the Quinton water.