Quinton Plasma/Water, or "percutaneous hydrotomy"

I don't know how much we can trust these testimonies, but for what it's worth:

“I’ve been taking one vial of Quinton Hypertonic per day for nearly four months.”
After the first week or so taking Quinton I didn’t think it was doing anything for me but my friend told me to stick with it. About a week later the hot flushes stopped completely.
https://cellnutrition.com/case-studies-sharon/

Monique H: “My back problem/sciatica is due to a disk’s deterioration, which I was told was down to cell degeneration. I was struggling for a few weeks/months. Then a doctor in France mentioned Quinton. I initially didn’t know how to approach the product. I took the Isotonic, 2 ampoules in the morning and 2 ampoules in the evening at bed time. After one week and a half I stopped as It was not making my problem better. But I thought my sleep was better. So, I started the Hypertonic, 2 ampoules as I woke up and 2 more at lunchtime. Then, after 4 days of taking them, I felt a difference in my Sciatica pain. Due to the inflammation of the disks, they had seriously diminished and I would say by about 75%. So I carried on 4 a day then 2 a day until I finished the box. My sciatica doesn’t bother me very much! What a result. I didn’t know there was a product out there that could help my body repair itself!”
https://cellnutrition.com/testimonals/

So it's possible that one vial of hypertonic per day may be too little for immediate results.
 
I've drinking one vial of hypertonic solution per day for about two weeks. It has helped me with energy levels and my bowel movements are better as well. I can skip caffeine in the morning without problems. As a side effect, I did have a small abscess around my right ear just like I did when I started autohemotherapy, but it drained and it hasn't come back again. I think there might be as many ways to drink Quinton water as there are individuals, the intake depending on individual needs, circumstances and issues. It seems to help to read about it to get an idea of what quantity and timing resonates with you, experimenting with caution and adjusting according to results. For the time being, I'll just finish my hypertonic ampoulles and see what to do next.

I think that the concept of "informed water by phytoplankton" was fascinating in view of the things explained in the book "Darwin's Blind Spot" which explains how phytoplankton has a great evolutionary potential. Quinton's literature doesn't touch these evolutionary or structured water concepts, but I think the potential is certainly there.

I also finished my practical training in percutaneous hydrotomy two days ago and I wanted to share a little bit of that experience. I was very positively impressed by the results and experience of Dr. Guez who is in charge of the training. He basically combines nutritional concepts with old school French medical concepts such as mesotherapy, Quinton plasma, water and information (Luc Montagnier's experiments with homeopathic remedies) and has taken the whole thing to a new level. He doesn't use the subcutaneous route, but the intradermic (locally in the skin) route as a therapeutic delivery. I haven't done the theoretical training, but he bases his protocols according to basic physiopathological concepts. He says that delivering nutrients and information locally in the skin is much safer and often more effective than the subcutaneous or intravenous route. In fact, he receives referrals from doctors who do EDTA and other intravenous nutrients but who don't respond as effectively as when the same nutrients are applied locally in the skin next to say an osteoarthritic problem. The skin serves as a defense filter and immune organ, and diluting everything in water makes everything much safer.

He had several patients with various auto-immune disorders or COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) who don't take any medications, but manage their disease with mesovaccines. He uses vaccines without additives and instead of using the entire vial, he uses one or two drops diluted in oligominerals, injecting teensy amounts locally in the skin - in the case of autoimmune issues it would be in the abdomen close to the intestines to help strengthen the immune system, microbiome or leaky gut issues. He manages issues involving immune system imbalances this way.

His results in osteoarthrosis of any part in the body are simply amazing. People who should have undergone surgery are practically fixed or at least managed successfully with these local injections. A lot of people that I saw in his medical office could have practically been bed-ridden from the pain if it was not by these therapies. He uses several protocols according to the stage of the treatment and individual medical history, but there are no more than a dozen protocols available containing Quinton plasma, nutrients, minerals, detox medications (EDTA) and even mainstream pharmaceuticals where he uses only a drop or two instead of the entire ampoulle.

I think that injecting nutrients and water locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column has implications that they might not even imagine. For instance, what Damasio explains in "The Strange Order of Things" could well apply here. The nerves exiting the vertebral column don't have a blood brain barrier and perhaps injecting nutrients and water that is alive locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column can help heal problems that might seem unrelated, i.e. asthma. There was a patient with Parkinson's treated with injections on the neck and apparently, migraine headaches respond as well with this method. Certain ailments are often a metameric irradiation of an impinged nerve root at the level of the vertebral column:

iur


Depending on underlying issues, between 16 and 25 sessions might be needed, and people with chronic and severe problems often come back at least once per month for a "re-tuning". Dr. Guez has practiced this kind of medicine for decades with seemingly excellent results, but I still think that each person's response is highly individual. The injections are certainly very painful to some people, others don't seem to care at all. Some people apply local anesthetics in cream an hour or two beforehand so that the injections (i.e. mesovaccines) would hurt less. They put a plastic wrap on top of the cream so it would stay put until the injections are applied. There are Herx reactions afterwards as well, but people usually come back as things seems to be shifting and happening with positive results.

I'm still learning about it and don't know what to make of it, but so far, I can say that it was something very positive to witness considering that mainstream options for debilitating diseases are so limited and non-healing. More info at INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PERCUTANEOUS HYDROTOMY
 
I've drinking one vial of hypertonic solution per day for about two weeks. It has helped me with energy levels and my bowel movements are better as well. I can skip caffeine in the morning without problems. As a side effect, I did have a small abscess around my right ear just like I did when I started autohemotherapy, but it drained and it hasn't come back again. I think there might be as many ways to drink Quinton water as there are individuals, the intake depending on individual needs, circumstances and issues. It seems to help to read about it to get an idea of what quantity and timing resonates with you, experimenting with caution and adjusting according to results. For the time being, I'll just finish my hypertonic ampoulles and see what to do next.

I think that the concept of "informed water by phytoplankton" was fascinating in view of the things explained in the book "Darwin's Blind Spot" which explains how phytoplankton has a great evolutionary potential. Quinton's literature doesn't touch these evolutionary or structured water concepts, but I think the potential is certainly there.

I also finished my practical training in percutaneous hydrotomy two days ago and I wanted to share a little bit of that experience. I was very positively impressed by the results and experience of Dr. Guez who is in charge of the training. He basically combines nutritional concepts with old school French medical concepts such as mesotherapy, Quinton plasma, water and information (Luc Montagnier's experiments with homeopathic remedies) and has taken the whole thing to a new level. He doesn't use the subcutaneous route, but the intradermic (locally in the skin) route as a therapeutic delivery. I haven't done the theoretical training, but he bases his protocols according to basic physiopathological concepts. He says that delivering nutrients and information locally in the skin is much safer and often more effective than the subcutaneous or intravenous route. In fact, he receives referrals from doctors who do EDTA and other intravenous nutrients but who don't respond as effectively as when the same nutrients are applied locally in the skin next to say an osteoarthritic problem. The skin serves as a defense filter and immune organ, and diluting everything in water makes everything much safer.

He had several patients with various auto-immune disorders or COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) who don't take any medications, but manage their disease with mesovaccines. He uses vaccines without additives and instead of using the entire vial, he uses one or two drops diluted in oligominerals, injecting teensy amounts locally in the skin - in the case of autoimmune issues it would be in the abdomen close to the intestines to help strengthen the immune system, microbiome or leaky gut issues. He manages issues involving immune system imbalances this way.

His results in osteoarthrosis of any part in the body are simply amazing. People who should have undergone surgery are practically fixed or at least managed successfully with these local injections. A lot of people that I saw in his medical office could have practically been bed-ridden from the pain if it was not by these therapies. He uses several protocols according to the stage of the treatment and individual medical history, but there are no more than a dozen protocols available containing Quinton plasma, nutrients, minerals, detox medications (EDTA) and even mainstream pharmaceuticals where he uses only a drop or two instead of the entire ampoulle.

I think that injecting nutrients and water locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column has implications that they might not even imagine. For instance, what Damasio explains in "The Strange Order of Things" could well apply here. The nerves exiting the vertebral column don't have a blood brain barrier and perhaps injecting nutrients and water that is alive locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column can help heal problems that might seem unrelated, i.e. asthma. There was a patient with Parkinson's treated with injections on the neck and apparently, migraine headaches respond as well with this method. Certain ailments are often a metameric irradiation of an impinged nerve root at the level of the vertebral column:

iur


Depending on underlying issues, between 16 and 25 sessions might be needed, and people with chronic and severe problems often come back at least once per month for a "re-tuning". Dr. Guez has practiced this kind of medicine for decades with seemingly excellent results, but I still think that each person's response is highly individual. The injections are certainly very painful to some people, others don't seem to care at all. Some people apply local anesthetics in cream an hour or two beforehand so that the injections (i.e. mesovaccines) would hurt less. They put a plastic wrap on top of the cream so it would stay put until the injections are applied. There are Herx reactions afterwards as well, but people usually come back as things seems to be shifting and happening with positive results.

I'm still learning about it and don't know what to make of it, but so far, I can say that it was something very positive to witness considering that mainstream options for debilitating diseases are so limited and non-healing. More info at INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PERCUTANEOUS HYDROTOMY

This information is simply amazing. It is a whole new avenue worthy of exploration. I am very excited to see the benefits of this therapy for those with chronic/severe conditions.
 
I think that injecting nutrients and water locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column has implications that they might not even imagine.

What do you think about mixing Quinton plasma with DMSO and placing it on the skin on top of the vertebral column?
 
What do you think about mixing Quinton plasma with DMSO and placing it on the skin on top of the vertebral column?


Hi Persej, in this post you quoted someone saying that hypertonic Quinton shouldn't be diluted to make an isotonic solution. Here Renaissance said that the solution shouldn't be diluted with distilled water but with natural unheated mineral water instead.

This makes me wonder whether Quinton water can be mixed with other substances without losing its properties? If distilled water is damaging to it, would it be OK when mixed with DMSO?

I don't know for the answers but I started taking last weekend and the quoted posts gave me the impression that this product may be fragile. For this reason I only take it on empty stomach just to be on the safe side.

That said, somehow it does the job despite being exposed to stomach acid so I may be overly cautious.
 
What do you think about mixing Quinton plasma with DMSO and placing it on the skin on top of the vertebral column?

Don't think it would hurt, but don't think it is any kind of serious curative either other than the benefits received from DMSO in general.
 
Hi Persej, in this post you quoted someone saying that hypertonic Quinton shouldn't be diluted to make an isotonic solution. Here Renaissance said that the solution shouldn't be diluted with distilled water but with natural unheated mineral water instead.

This makes me wonder whether Quinton water can be mixed with other substances without losing its properties? If distilled water is damaging to it, would it be OK when mixed with DMSO?

Well, if I understood correctly Gaby's last post, that doctor already uses a mix of Quinton water with other nutrients in his injections. Or perhaps he uses separate injection for each nutrient?

That said, somehow it does the job despite being exposed to stomach acid so I may be overly cautious.

My sleep became different (improved) after the 9th vial. But i want to wait a little longer before saying more about it. I hold it in my mouth a few minutes before swallowing.

Don't think it would hurt, but don't think it is any kind of serious curative either other than the benefits received from DMSO in general.

Possibly not, but I was just interested about intradermal route as a therapeutic delivery of nutrients. I will have to read the topic about DMSO because this thing just appeared in my country, and I don't yet know much about it.
 
Well, if I understood correctly Gaby's last post, that doctor already uses a mix of Quinton water with other nutrients in his injections. Or perhaps he uses separate injection for each nutrient?

Thank you Persej, I think you're right. The below posts says there's a whole cocktail of nutrients added to the drip with the water:

It was:
Sodium Chloride (for dilution)
Xylocaine
Magnesium
The Vit. B cocktail
Pentoxiphiline
Ketoprophene
A super mix of amioacids. I didn't write down all the names, but I remember L-arginine, L-Lysine, L-Glycine, L-Tyrosine, L-Taurine, L-Tryptofan, L-Leucine and about 4 more.


My sleep became different (improved) after the 9th vial. But i want to wait a little longer before saying more about it. I hold it in my mouth a few minutes before swallowing.

I do that too. I take my B12 as a sublingual lozenge and it works better than any other form for me. This website suggests doing just that and it briefly mentions it can help with dental issues.

Swill the Quinton round your mouth for at least 30 secs to help with dental issues and because there is good absorption of nutrients through the gums and mouth mucosa.
 
I've drinking one vial of hypertonic solution per day for about two weeks. It has helped me with energy levels and my bowel movements are better as well. I can skip caffeine in the morning without problems. As a side effect, I did have a small abscess around my right ear just like I did when I started autohemotherapy, but it drained and it hasn't come back again. I think there might be as many ways to drink Quinton water as there are individuals, the intake depending on individual needs, circumstances and issues. It seems to help to read about it to get an idea of what quantity and timing resonates with you, experimenting with caution and adjusting according to results. For the time being, I'll just finish my hypertonic ampoulles and see what to do next.

I think that the concept of "informed water by phytoplankton" was fascinating in view of the things explained in the book "Darwin's Blind Spot" which explains how phytoplankton has a great evolutionary potential. Quinton's literature doesn't touch these evolutionary or structured water concepts, but I think the potential is certainly there.

I also finished my practical training in percutaneous hydrotomy two days ago and I wanted to share a little bit of that experience. I was very positively impressed by the results and experience of Dr. Guez who is in charge of the training. He basically combines nutritional concepts with old school French medical concepts such as mesotherapy, Quinton plasma, water and information (Luc Montagnier's experiments with homeopathic remedies) and has taken the whole thing to a new level. He doesn't use the subcutaneous route, but the intradermic (locally in the skin) route as a therapeutic delivery. I haven't done the theoretical training, but he bases his protocols according to basic physiopathological concepts. He says that delivering nutrients and information locally in the skin is much safer and often more effective than the subcutaneous or intravenous route. In fact, he receives referrals from doctors who do EDTA and other intravenous nutrients but who don't respond as effectively as when the same nutrients are applied locally in the skin next to say an osteoarthritic problem. The skin serves as a defense filter and immune organ, and diluting everything in water makes everything much safer.

He had several patients with various auto-immune disorders or COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) who don't take any medications, but manage their disease with mesovaccines. He uses vaccines without additives and instead of using the entire vial, he uses one or two drops diluted in oligominerals, injecting teensy amounts locally in the skin - in the case of autoimmune issues it would be in the abdomen close to the intestines to help strengthen the immune system, microbiome or leaky gut issues. He manages issues involving immune system imbalances this way.

His results in osteoarthrosis of any part in the body are simply amazing. People who should have undergone surgery are practically fixed or at least managed successfully with these local injections. A lot of people that I saw in his medical office could have practically been bed-ridden from the pain if it was not by these therapies. He uses several protocols according to the stage of the treatment and individual medical history, but there are no more than a dozen protocols available containing Quinton plasma, nutrients, minerals, detox medications (EDTA) and even mainstream pharmaceuticals where he uses only a drop or two instead of the entire ampoulle.

I think that injecting nutrients and water locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column has implications that they might not even imagine. For instance, what Damasio explains in "The Strange Order of Things" could well apply here. The nerves exiting the vertebral column don't have a blood brain barrier and perhaps injecting nutrients and water that is alive locally in the skin on top of the vertebral column can help heal problems that might seem unrelated, i.e. asthma. There was a patient with Parkinson's treated with injections on the neck and apparently, migraine headaches respond as well with this method. Certain ailments are often a metameric irradiation of an impinged nerve root at the level of the vertebral column:

iur


Depending on underlying issues, between 16 and 25 sessions might be needed, and people with chronic and severe problems often come back at least once per month for a "re-tuning". Dr. Guez has practiced this kind of medicine for decades with seemingly excellent results, but I still think that each person's response is highly individual. The injections are certainly very painful to some people, others don't seem to care at all. Some people apply local anesthetics in cream an hour or two beforehand so that the injections (i.e. mesovaccines) would hurt less. They put a plastic wrap on top of the cream so it would stay put until the injections are applied. There are Herx reactions afterwards as well, but people usually come back as things seems to be shifting and happening with positive results.

I'm still learning about it and don't know what to make of it, but so far, I can say that it was something very positive to witness considering that mainstream options for debilitating diseases are so limited and non-healing. More info at INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PERCUTANEOUS HYDROTOMY

Hi Gaby do you think this is something that I (or my partner) can do on myself/me, if I can get the the right kind of "cocktail" I need, or do you need to go to a therapist or be educated? I mean, the application doesn't seem difficult, but I don't know how much and what kind of cocktail I need etc.

Travel is not an option right now, especially 16-25 sessions.

Otherwise, so far no improvement on the Hypertonic 30-45 ml a day. Taking my Tyrosine (400mg) and almost finished the book "When the body says No". Good book, the stories makes you look at yourself and see how I have behaved/behaves….it is easy to find something in every story.
 
Hi Gaby do you think this is something that I (or my partner) can do on myself/me, if I can get the the right kind of "cocktail" I need, or do you need to go to a therapist or be educated?

It would be the latter.
 
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Ok, thought so, but worth asking anyway...

It is pretty intensive when you do the treatment. Yesterday, I had a gang of 18 needles attached to my drip bag. Good thing about it was that she was able to cover about 2/3 of my spinal length this way, and with that many needles, it dripped in faster. Also went back to the detox cocktail which is less painful going in, though one gets pretty foggy and miserable for a few days after.

Overall, I think that even my organs are working better; digestion overall, blood sugar management, appetite, etc. My pain levels are down to 3 or 4 on scale of 10, and often no pain at all. Except for right now, while detoxing, my energy is better, my dreams are interesting, and I'm just able to do more things.

Since my injury is so longstanding, I'll probably have to do a few more drips and I'm looking forward to just getting the whole spine done! I sure wish this was available to all! Maybe if Gaby opens her own practice in the not-too-distant future, we can host group members for treatments over the needed periods of time.
 
Since my injury is so longstanding, I'll probably have to do a few more drips and I'm looking forward to just getting the whole spine done! I sure wish this was available to all! Maybe if Gaby opens her own practice in the not-too-distant future, we can host group members for treatments over the needed periods of time.

I'll certainly look forward for that day. This practice was one of the most positive medical experiences I witnessed. Long-time patients of Dr. Guez were so grateful and kept coming back for other protocols. I look forward to my theoretical master class.
 

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