Recommended Reiki Master?

Thanks Carlise for an advise. I read all the thread and a bit more to understand that when one asks someone might come back with helpful info. The region I could travel to for that purpose is quite big, however, there might be some limitations because of a language barrier. I can speak RU, EN and LT only. Laura did mention in the Wave series (Chapter 17, Vol 2) that she has been re-initiated in St. Petersburg, Russia. So I'm wondering if I could use that channel. I hope for a better :)

Warm Regards,
Atomas
 
Atomas said:
Thanks Carlise for an advise. I read all the thread and a bit more to understand that when one asks someone might come back with helpful info. The region I could travel to for that purpose is quite big, however, there might be some limitations because of a language barrier. I can speak RU, EN and LT only. Laura did mention in the Wave series (Chapter 17, Vol 2) that she has been re-initiated in St. Petersburg, Russia. So I'm wondering if I could use that channel. I hope for a better :)

Warm Regards,
Atomas

Laura was re-initiated in St. Petersburg, Florida, USA.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Laura was re-initiated in St. Petersburg, Florida, USA.

Nienna,
Thanks for pointing this out. Frankly, I thought it was in Russia. Maybe my expectations were influenced by wishfull thinking once I saw familiar city name... well I guess I cannot afford myself even to think about going to the US. I've read enough info to understand how much controls are there in place for "ones own safety".
 
I read some thoughts here regarding William Lee Rand and it seems that the general opinion has some negative aspect of him. On the other hand, one of the primary our concerns before choosing a teacher is that we need to check the given symbols if they look as traditional Dr. Usui ones.
The reason why I tried to collect some info on W. Rand is that someone from his school's graduates will be holding Reiki seminars in my country so I just wanted to collect some info before making the decision whether to attend the seminar or not. So after some searching I found the link to his propagated symbols which look quite OK to me. Not sure where did it come from that he uses reverse symbols as someone stated earlier:
http://www.learnreikihealing.com/ebook/Usui-Reiki-Symbols.pdf
If someone has an evidence or attended his seminar and knows for sure that he provides with corrupted teachings please say so. I would appreciate any info.

I took the above link from the following thread:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,15726.msg139328.html#msg139328
 
Atomas said:
I read some thoughts here regarding William Lee Rand and it seems that the general opinion has some negative aspect of him. On the other hand, one of the primary our concerns before choosing a teacher is that we need to check the given symbols if they look as traditional Dr. Usui ones.
The reason why I tried to collect some info on W. Rand is that someone from his school's graduates will be holding Reiki seminars in my country so I just wanted to collect some info before making the decision whether to attend the seminar or not. So after some searching I found the link to his propagated symbols which look quite OK to me. Not sure where did it come from that he uses reverse symbols as someone stated earlier:
http://www.learnreikihealing.com/ebook/Usui-Reiki-Symbols.pdf
If someone has an evidence or attended his seminar and knows for sure that he provides with corrupted teachings please say so. I would appreciate any info.

I took the above link from the following thread:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,15726.msg139328.html#msg139328

The Reiki symbols look okay. However, the so called 'Tibetan Reiki' is something that doesn't belong to the original Usui Reiki. There are also some red flags in the description, for instance, the composition of the curriculum isn't correct if we compare that with the Usui tradition.

Usui/Tibetan Reiki
Lineage: Usui - Hayashi - Takata - Furumoto - Carol Farmer -
Leah Smith - William Rand. William has also taken Reiki from Diane
McCumber (Raku Kei lineage), Marlene Schilke, Beth Gray, Harry Kuboi,
Bethel Phaigh and Phyllis Furumoto.
Origins: Rand teaches what he calls Usui/Tibetan Reiki which is a
combination of Traditional, Raku Kei and his own understandings.
DEGREES and Levels: 4 DEGREES

Tibetan Reiki and 'Raku Kei' sound off to me, they don't belong to the original teachings in any way. Plus, Usui had only three levels, not four.

First and Second Degree: taught together in one class: 2 attunements;
teaches the history, precepts, hand positions, 3 traditional symbols
(names, meanings and use), and a distance healing technique.
Advanced Reiki Training (ART): 1 attunement: teaches 1 additional
symbol (meaning and usage), a different possible history of Reiki,
Reiki Meditation, The Reiki Grid, Attunement exercise, and Psychic
Surgery.

This 'psychic surgery' is a huge red flag, at least to me. If I remember correctly, the C's warned not to get involved with that...I'll have to see if I can find that passage. I would also be very interested in hearing what this 'different possible history' is. 'Reiki Grid' is also not included in the original teachings. I find it curious that he teaches the 'first' and 'second' degree together with all the 'bells and whistles' - sounds like the usual attention seeking, or spell bounding technique...

Master/Teacher Degree: 1 attunement: teaches about the healing crisis,
Reiki III Meditation (using microcosmic orbit), 2 initiatory symbols,
attunement exercise, attunement methods (Raku Kei like) to First,
Second, ART and Master/Teacher plus a Healing Attunement, Distance
and self attunement; Violet Breath Technique, gives 4 variations of
the Antaskarana symbol with description and usage

This is complete word salad, in my opinion. If you're seeking to learn Reiki according to Usui's traditions, I can't see how this person would in any way be suitable. And, judging from the above, getting involved with this kind of 'school', even if just out of curiosity, could be potentially dangerous, or at least bad juju...
 
Here's the C session where psychic surgery is mentioned:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26008.msg310043.html#msg310043

Q: (L) Well, obviously since we don't want that kind of thing to happen anymore, the choice is already made. Okay, I would like to know, recently I watched a video at Jiles Hamilton's on psychic surgery. This, obviously, was the real thing. Am I correct in that assessment? {The video was made and presented by Henry Belk.}

A: No.

Q: (L) No?! What was happening?

A: Fakery and "demonic" influences to delusion, now, strict warning: avoid at all cost!!

Q: (L) Avoid what at all cost, psychic surgery?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, that is pretty heavy duty. (F) They almost never say anything like that.
 
Seems like this learnreikihealing.com gang are in some way associated, or influenced, by the good old 'The Secret' shctick:

_http://www.learnreikihealing.com/free-reiki-ebook
Click Here For All 5 FREE E-books
Including Reiki And The Law Of Attraction

The blockbuster film THE SECRET used the Law of Attraction as it’s central theme, the secret in the title. Take a look at the trailer below. Just click on the play arrow in the screen. Then download the FREE ebook below and learn the ‘The Secret’ yourself. Learn how Reiki and the Law of Attraction work together.

The picture is getting quite clear that this site is disinfo, or, at least, full of misinformed people.
 
Hi Aragorn,
The analysis made by you is the great example how one should do research before taking a decision. I made a prejudice when had seen the symbols and I was happy when I didn't find reversed ones like those that are given by Diana Stein.
I remember C's suggestion as well to avoid any psychic surgery at any cost and that was a bell to me that something might be wrong with his teachings. But for some reasons I was thinking that maybe this was me who was given incomplete traditional Reiki teachings earlier and some techniques were just skipped by my teacher. However, as your research shows some statements from the link above may be just nice words to attract people and I totally agree with you that this smells as New Age stuff.
Thanks for your insight and time for digging this up. This is a nice example and lesson for me to keep eyes wide open.
 
I've been getting more and more interested in Reiki lately.

The first time I met the concept, I was still being driven by an overly cartesian/materialist frame of mind, yet I could still feel a great resonance with the concept. Kind of like reading a nice science fiction story and thinking, wouldn't that be great if it true? But of course I dismissed the concept as impossible.

Anyways, many synchronicities have led me recently to think again about it, weeks and days before I reached the part of the Wave vol. 2 where Laura discusses this matter. I got hooked and started looking into it further, but I was quite disappointed to hear of the different levels of corruption floating around. It makes it sound like quite a gamble.

Currently living in a country faraway from home (Panama), I thought it would be unlikely for me to find a master adhering to the original Usui system and symbols. But I've got a small trip planned to go visit my family back in Quebec for 6 weeks coming up, and I thought maybe I could search for an adequate master there.

I made further research and found a master that seems to be of a potentially clean lineage. Of course I'll do further research myself so I can act according to my own reason, and listen to my intuition if/when I meet her in person, but I wondered if some of you who are more knowledgeable had anything to say on the topic?

This Reiki master is called Ginnette Bellemare, and her lineage is from Mikao Usui, Dr Hayashi, lady Takata and then Phyllis Lee Furumoto. Does that ring any bell, and what would be your tips/feedback?

Thanks a lot.
 
United Gnosis said:
This Reiki master is called Ginnette Bellemare, and her lineage is from Mikao Usui, Dr Hayashi, lady Takata and then Phyllis Lee Furumoto. Does that ring any bell, and what would be your tips/feedback?

Thanks a lot.

Go for it!
 
Why, thanks for the great reply! That reiki website discussed upthread was really invaluable, so I'll keep studying in the meantime and trust my intuition to feel if anything is fishy when I meet her - because I'm going in :)
 
Just thought I'd share today's experience for what it's worth.

I Finally went for an attunement session today with the woman I mentioned in this thread a while back (reiki ann), since there is nobody round here without a William Rand lineage.

There were 4 of us as students. Two middle aged, self proclaimed spiritual women, the kind who hold tight to every apparition out of the normal as proof of their special gifted nature. They both stared hypnotically into Ann's eyes the whole time and seized any opportunity to talk about energy and angels. Then there was a girl my age who seemed a little more down to earth. It was worse than I expected, but I just grit my teeth and played nice with the group of people and 'master', through 6 hours of talk about angels, love and light, people in the spirit realm, world healing grid etc. I thought I'd just do my best to filter out the BS, pretend to go along, and get what I can from the experience. My rationale was that reiki is something objective, and that's what I'm here for, despite all the added fluff.



When going through the attunements I was relaxed, but still on guard and not able to sink deeply into any form of meditation due to the environment and people there. She said something about aliens having a connection with me (obviously benevolent space brothers) and that I would get a lot of 'scientific' ideas, and that I was "special" (I think she said that to everyone). I think she just sensed that I was not moved at all by the angels and dead dudes schtick, despite my attempts to feign interest, and so tried the aliens idea as maybe that seemed more like 'my style'. Though I guess maybe one who is trying to wake up is more likely to have some grey dudes watching over now and then.

During the attunements and practice sessions on one another, I did not feel a whole lot to be honest. Nothing, at least, that wasn't just nice brain chemicals stimulated by the relaxation, soft voice and music. The others reported seeing colours and other things. The teacher placed a great emphasis on seeing colours, as if it was the most important thing in the world. I didn't really see anything major, at least nothing that couldn't be explained by the effects of her constant suggestions that seeing colours is good.

I went with the younger girl for the practice session, and we both did it on eachother for about 10 minutes. We both found it very relaxing, but I didn't feel anything particularly special about it. The girl picked up some deep 'coldness' in my right leg, which the teacher then came and put her hands on. After the session she told me I had an entity attachment there, due to something to do with bad relations with my Dad. Totally out of the blue. She got this one right, as I still have periods of rage now and then when I think back about my dad's absolute narcissistic behaviour. Then again, many people do.

It was a seriously hard day trying to keep my strategic enclosure in tact while immersed in such a depth of new age nonsense, which left me quite drained.

So I am now apparently attuned to reiki. I don't feel much different at all, and I feel no heat coming from my hands. The girl I practiced on said she could feel it coming from me, but she may have been deluded or possibly lying to spare my feelings :halo: . I have my suspicions that I have wasted my money, and therefore learned a lesson, but I will continue practicing the self healing positions to see if anything happens when I'm in the comfort of my own home and able to fully relax.
 
Hi Carlise, sounds like you had a typical 'New Age' Reiki course there. ;)

It was good that you had prior knowledge of all the nonsense that's out there, sounds like you did great with keeping your distance. That teacher sounds definitely like someone you shouldn't trust or get more involved with, just get the attunements and then...sayonara. Let's hope your attunements are close to the correct ones.

Many years ago I was attuned with something called Seichem (during a weekend course), and the teacher had similar things going on as the one you describe. I had a bad feeling about the whole thing, but I still went with it, wanting to become 'speshul'. After the weekend, I kept doing the Seichem-Reiki on me, but after a few weeks I started noticing strange things like having sexual dreams about the Seichem teacher, and getting very selfish. I then decided to trust my instinct, and completely stopped doing it. Luckily, a little later, I found a trustworthy teacher in the traditional Reiki.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that be vigilant to observe any strange sensations, dreams, or out of normal STS behavior by you. This is an 'educated guess', but I do think that distorted forms of Reiki can have observable effects, usually gravitating towards implosion (STS).

Don't worry about not seeing colours or 'bells and whistles' during the attunement. This is completely normal, and for instance me and my teacher have not experienced anything out of the ordinary during our attunements. That your 'teacher' placed emphasis on seeing colours is ridiculous! She was probably just trying to spellbound you with her magic nonsense. The others may have seen colours, but from what you describe they sound like individuals who 'self induce' experiences just to feel special (they couldn't afford NOT seeing colours).
 
Aragorn said:
Hi Carlise, sounds like you had a typical 'New Age' Reiki course there. ;)

It was good that you had prior knowledge of all the nonsense that's out there, sounds like you did great with keeping your distance. That teacher sounds definitely like someone you shouldn't trust or get more involved with, just get the attunements and then...sayonara. Let's hope your attunements are close to the correct ones.

Yeah, my BS meter was so off the charts it was ridiculous, I had to keep turning round or pretending to cough when I could feel a laugh coming on. I hope that I extracted something good from the session, but I certainly don't intend to return.

Many years ago I was attuned with something called Seichem (during a weekend course), and the teacher had similar things going on as the one you describe. I had a bad feeling about the whole thing, but I still went with it, wanting to become 'speshul'. After the weekend, I kept doing the Seichem-Reiki on me, but after a few weeks I started noticing strange things like having sexual dreams about the Seichem teacher, and getting very selfish. I then decided to trust my instinct, and completely stopped doing it. Luckily, a little later, I found a trustworthy teacher in the traditional Reiki.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that be vigilant to observe any strange sensations, dreams, or out of normal STS behavior by you. This is an 'educated guess', but I do think that distorted forms of Reiki can have observable effects, usually gravitating towards implosion (STS).

This is interesting, I will keep an eye out. She did go through the usui, hayashi, and takata information, and it was traditional Usui reiki (as traditional as I could find, anyway), using the classic symbols. Her clinic has been going for many years, and she has treated and attuned hundreds of people, so surely it must work at least a little. Time will tell I guess.



Don't worry about not seeing colours or 'bells and whistles' during the attunement. This is completely normal, and for instance me and my teacher have not experienced anything out of the ordinary during our attunements. That your 'teacher' placed emphasis on seeing colours is ridiculous! She was probably just trying to spellbound you with her magic nonsense. The others may have seen colours, but from what you describe they sound like individuals who 'self induce' experiences just to feel special (they couldn't afford NOT seeing colours).

Exactly my thoughts. She seemed to have the dangerous charisma of the standard stage psychic, and it was pathetically easy to see how she would lead the others into responses with vague questions about dead loved ones. Funnily enough, she never tried this once on me.

She was really nice, but I can't deny the fact that she was obviously spellbinding everyone there, as you said.

I really want to learn reiki, as I can imagine it being an extremely handy skill in the times ahead, and that's why I kind of jumped in with this even though I knew she had a new age bias. I had no idea it would to be this extent though.
I should have just expanded my area of search, found somebody that really checked out, and paid the extra for travel. I may end up having to be re-attuned at some point now, if this really has done nothing of value. It's early days yet though, I will practice again tomorrow and see what happens.
 
Thanks for checking it out. Here's Karuna's lineage list:

Mikao Usui
Churijo Hayashi
Hawayo Takata
Barbara McCullough
Helen Borth
Nancy Retzlaff
Karuna Krinsky

I found some information on Barbara:

Barbara Lincoln McCullough
Made her transition. Barbara initiated a few master students; Helen Borth, David G. Jarrell, and Judy Carol Stewart. Helen was initiated as a master in December of 1980 just days before Takata died. I was very fortunate to be able to receive master training with Helen. David was initiated as a master on August 5th, 1981. He taught his own system of Reiki called Reiki Plus. Judy wrote the book entitled Reiki Touch and started a business called The Reiki Touch, Inc. Later she changed her name to Julie Carroll.
_http://www.reikisystem.com/reiki/articles/reiki_people.html#


I also took a look at the ReikiTeacher.org website. I don't really find any red flags (aside from the possibly untrustworthy book referenced). She seems just a tad 'love and light' to me, but that's just an initial impression (and my own biases).

Anyone else want to comment on the above referenced site? It happens to be wonderfully close to me. Maybe worth at least checking out and reporting back for everyone here? Hmm..


Here is a site about Helen Borth (and her husbands) operation.
_http://iselfawareness.org/who.htm

"Reiki Training
At ISA Reiki students experience traditional Reiki and its present-day equivalent. This means simply allowing the Universal Life Force to flow without expected results.
Reiki I (1st Degree):
Six hours in two parts. Includes traditional and contemporary Reiki, intuitive consulting, personal aura interpretation, and symbol of infinity. Become a certified 1st degree practitioner.

Reiki II (2nd Degree):
One three hour class. Includes three ancient symbols, aura interpretation, and basic energy knowledge. Call for date and time.
Cost: $150

Master Class III (3rd Degree):
Become a Reiki Master Teacher. Call for date and time.
Cost: $500

Reiki I and II can be audited for $25. "


Makes no mention of number of attunements (though how many could be beneficially received in a short 6 hours I have to wonder). Also, symbols given with first initiation? My understanding has been that once one has fully integrated the first level attunements and deepened their own understanding through self-practice (and willing family, friends, pets, etc. perhaps), then they would receive the symbols with the second level attunement/initiation.


Just some stuff I found whilst browsing before work. Speaking of, I've got to go! I'll see if I can't dig up some more later. Also- sorry this wasnt formatted better-short on time.
 

Trending content

Back
Top Bottom