Laura said:
Yes, it is all just terrible how masses of people get manipulated by corrupt and/or psychopathic leaders. We were talking at dinner and Ark reminisced about how the Ukrainians were committing genocide on the Poles when he was little. His whole family had to flee with literally nothing because the Poles were being taken out of their homes and having their throats cut.
What was the appr. date when this happening? It was UPA soldiers?
I'm from the West of Ukraine. My mum told me how during the Bandera's movement my grandma was beaten almost to death by Russian partisans which shown they self as bandera's guy. She has a problem for hole life with female's organ stuff. I don't remember exactly what it was. There were a lot of bandit's at that time. The sister of my grandmother was beaten by bandera's, as far as i remember she was saved by the really old lady. She saw how they come to her. And when they leave she come and give her some help, because she could die. I don't remember what exactly she did. It was really dangerous, because people knew that they can return and easily kill everybody, so they were really afraid. That grandma said that she is not afraid, if they kill her - so be it, she had nothing to lose.
At that time some people betrays other by telling these bandits what expensive stuff other people have. They give to all these bandits noise pickup who had expensive clothes at that time, for example - shawl/shawls, coat, boots, etc. So this bandits (i do not call them Bandera’s, because there were not only bandera's ) My grandma said to my mum that maybe she was betrayed by her cousin.
But my grandma and her sister were lucky, I think, because a lot of people were shot, beaten to death, drowned in the wells.
On the other hand - my father told me that when he was a boy Bolsheviks came to their house and kicked every outside, ruin the roof of their house, so that they could not return, i guess, and said that here would be a railway road. There were 7 children in his family, and he was the youngest or almost the youngest in his family. His father died because of tuberculosis at the age of 35 or so. my father's older brothers were taken to the army, and he was left as a bread-winner (it was also a reason why he wasn't taken to the army when he was 18, they took him later) He almost finished 8th grade (or finish in absentia) and go to work. Also, there was a time, he studied at so-called night-time school. He's got a tuberculosis somewhere at the age of 18-19. He healed somehow. And when one of his brothers returns - he was taken to the army.
I didn't see any of my grandpa, my grandmas died before I was 6. I really would like to know what they would tell me about their lives.
U reminds me that times and I wanted to share some info. Maybe it would be a useful to know how some people live in the past.
Those children on the video don’t even aware what they signed. They are weapons in the hands of psychopaths.
BTW, nice picture on the 3rd sott article the link u gave to)
