Richard Dolan

[Glenn]

To add to the questions, are there entities "out there" that are able to travel by folding space or something along those lines where travel would be almost instantaneously?

I think this question and answer session with Ra can answer some questions, as it is plainly stated that there are some 3D entities that have learned various techniques to travel long distances. Bolding mine.


51.2 Questioner: Thank you. This next question I feel to be a transient type of question; however, it has been asked me by one whom I have communicated with who has been intensely involved in the UFO portion of the phenomenon. If you deem it too transient or unimportant we’ll skip it, but I have been asked how is it possible for the craft of, shall we say, the fourth-density to get here in that it seems that as you approach the velocity of light mass approaches infinite. We have talked about the increase of spiritual mass and it was just a question as to how this transition from very distant planets is made in craft and my question would be why craft would be necessary at all? This is not an important question.


Ra: I am Ra. You have asked several questions. We shall respond in turn.

Firstly, we agree that this material is transient.

Secondly, those for the most part coming from distant points, as you term them, do not need craft as you know them. The query itself requires understanding which you do not possess. We shall attempt to state what may be stated.

Firstly, there are a few third-density entities who have learned how to use craft to travel between star systems while experiencing the limitations you now understand. However, such entities have learned to use hydrogen in a way different from your understanding now. These entities still take quite long durations of time, as you measure it, to move about. However, these entities are able to use hypothermia to slow the physical and mental complex processes in order to withstand the duration of flight. Those such as are from Sirius are of this type. There are two other types.

One is the type which, coming from fourth, fifth, or sixth density in your own galaxy, has access to a type of energy system which uses the speed of light as a slingshot and thus arrives where it wishes without any perceptible time elapsed in your view.

The other type of experience is that of fourth, fifth, and sixth densities of other galaxies and some within your own galaxy which have learned the necessary disciplines of personality to view the universe as one being and, therefore, are able to proceed from locus to locus by thought alone, materializing the necessary craft, if you will, to enclose the light body of the entity.

 

[heinrich]

I think this question and answer session with Ra can answer some questions, as it is plainly stated that there are some 3D entities that have learned various techniques to travel long distances. Bolding mine.


51.2 Questioner: Thank you. This next question I feel to be a transient type of question; however, it has been asked me by one whom I have communicated with who has been intensely involved in the UFO portion of the phenomenon. If you deem it too transient or unimportant we’ll skip it, but I have been asked how is it possible for the craft of, shall we say, the fourth-density to get here in that it seems that as you approach the velocity of light mass approaches infinite. We have talked about the increase of spiritual mass and it was just a question as to how this transition from very distant planets is made in craft and my question would be why craft would be necessary at all? This is not an important question.


Ra: I am Ra. You have asked several questions. We shall respond in turn.

Firstly, we agree that this material is transient.

Secondly, those for the most part coming from distant points, as you term them, do not need craft as you know them. The query itself requires understanding which you do not possess. We shall attempt to state what may be stated.

Firstly, there are a few third-density entities who have learned how to use craft to travel between star systems while experiencing the limitations you now understand. However, such entities have learned to use hydrogen in a way different from your understanding now. These entities still take quite long durations of time, as you measure it, to move about. However, these entities are able to use hypothermia to slow the physical and mental complex processes in order to withstand the duration of flight. Those such as are from Sirius are of this type. There are two other types.

One is the type which, coming from fourth, fifth, or sixth density in your own galaxy, has access to a type of energy system which uses the speed of light as a slingshot and thus arrives where it wishes without any perceptible time elapsed in your view.

The other type of experience is that of fourth, fifth, and sixth densities of other galaxies and some within your own galaxy which have learned the necessary disciplines of personality to view the universe as one being and, therefore, are able to proceed from locus to locus by thought alone, materializing the necessary craft, if you will, to enclose the light body of the entity.

this explanation is similar to what i have read in a swaruu communication.

 

[genero81]

Do beings have lifespans on 4D whether long or short?

Seems to me the C's once said 4D lifespans were around 400 years in terms we understand. Although variability of physicality could also mean some variations in lifespan. OSIT

Unless I'm remembering wrongly.

 

[Honzap]

Seems to me the C's once said 4D lifespans were around 400 years in terms we understand. Although variability of physicality could also mean some variations in lifespan. OSIT

Unless I'm remembering wrongly.

You remember correctly. The question it begs is that if in 4D and having different (true-r) understanding of time, does it even matter there anymore?

Another curious question comes to mind which I have not seen talked about yet. In 4D do babies get born similar way as in here in 3D? Or is it only possible to transition there without the act?

 

[Kay Kim]

Another curious question comes to mind which I have not seen talked about yet. In 4D do babies get born similar way as in here in 3D? Or is it only possible to transition there without the act

Q: (L) When the earth becomes 4th density will we still eat?

A: Differently.

Q: (L) Will we still reproduce?

A: Differently.

Q: (L) Will people still have sexual relations?

A: Wait and see for yourself. Absorb nutrients through the skin.

 

[mkrnhr]

de Souza did say that all aliens are extra-dimensional. In fact, it has been implied in various places on the forum that aliens are from other densities. But, according to the Cs, there are 3D aliens in our universe

In his writings, de Souza indeed qualifies Aliens as mostly extra-dimensional. However, he also makes a distinction between purely extra-dimensional beings that have great difficulties staying in our realm (4d), and their semi-robotic creations (that would be the Grays) that they more often send into our realm to do stuff like abductions and harvesting (4d->3d or just 3d) and possibly hybrids (3d?). Where he goes overboard is when he postulates that Earth is the only inhabited planet in our 3d realm. He presents it as a solution to the Fermi paradox and thus places Earth at the only privileged junction between densities. This postulate is not necessary. There might be other "earths" where like for us, things of a multidimensional nature like the Wave happen before they develop an interstellar or pan-galactic civilizations. OSIT

 

[Nienna]

Seems to me the C's once said 4D lifespans were around 400 years in terms we understand. Although variability of physicality could also mean some variations in lifespan. OSIT

Unless I'm remembering wrongly.

You are not remembering wrongly.

Q: (L) Now, as I was starting to say, if, theoretically an individual was to develop in a natural way by making all the proper choices, and was to arrive at the point in time when the major transition is to be made, would that individual's body pass through into that heightened dimension in a physical state? Remember, this is just a theoretical person...

A: Of course.

Q: (L) Now suppose this theoretical person were to pass through this transition to the other side, what state would they find their body in? Would it be exactly as it is now in terms of solidity? What would be the experience?

A: The key concept here is variability of physicality.

Q: (L) Does this mean that everybody will be different or that an individual will have greater control over the substance and constitution of the body?

A: Not exactly either. Your physicality will be variable according to need and circumstance.

Q: (L) Okay, does this mean that sometimes we will be more of a light body?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Does this mean that sometimes we will be more of a firm body as we have now?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will our bodies age differently?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What will be the median lifespan?

A: 400 years

Q: (L) And will those who pass through this transition as, say, 50 year olds, will they have an equal opportunity to live an additional 400 years?

A: Will regenerate in youthful appearance.

Q: (L) Now, when you say 400 years, will it be that the plane has a different orbit and that a year will be different?

A: No.

Q: (L) Will the days be different as to length of time light and dark as they are now?

A: Not the point. Planet will be 4th density as well.

Q: (L) But will the days and nights be different and will the orbit be different? Will the axial angle be changed?

A: You are thinking in terms of the 3rd level density. The rules will be so totally different that physical inspired comparisons are moot.

Q: (L) But I like the sunshine and birds singing and breezes. I just want to know if those things will be the same.

A: In some fashion.

Q: (L) Can't you give a few clues?

A: We must let you see for yourself.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

In his writings, de Souza indeed qualifies Aliens as mostly extra-dimensional. However, he also makes a distinction between purely extra-dimensional beings that have great difficulties staying in our realm (4d), and their semi-robotic creations (that would be the Grays) that they more often send into our realm to do stuff like abductions and harvesting (4d->3d or just 3d) and possibly hybrids (3d?). Where he goes overboard is when he postulates that Earth is the only inhabited planet in our 3d realm. He presents it as a solution to the Fermi paradox and thus places Earth at the only privileged junction between densities. This postulate is not necessary. There might be other "earths" where like for us, things of a multidimensional nature like the Wave happen before they develop an interstellar or pan-galactic civilizations. OSIT

And that would also mean any technologically advanced 3d STS civilization who can visit other worlds is probably on a similar learning cycle position as we are - basically didn't advance to 4D, still learning 3D lessons, probably have similar problems and levels of overall wisdom about life. So basically as long as they're 3D, we shouldn't expect too much "enlightenment", and probably a whole lot sacred cows and issues of their own. Unless they're STO, although if still in 3D, it also means they're just a very nice version of us. Basically we should always look up, and that just means look to higher densities. Too many people think science/tech = wisdom/advancement/enlightenment, but just look at modern western civilization vs tribal people, and that tells you all you need to know about what science/technology does and doesn't do for the typical denizen's level of development.

But your point about the Wave being a good explanation for the fermi paradox is brilliant. I mean, we're not meant to hang around on 3D indefinitely - so any civilization that exists in 3D for millions of years would actually be terrifying because they'd be clearly completely stunted in development and unable to progress. So we'd be looking at something like the Borg or whatever. Having existed in 3D for absurd amounts of time is nothing to brag about, just like staying in 3rd grade in school for many years isn't a good thing. Imagine us but with Star Wars level of tech? No thank you!

On a final note, my thought is that those who aren't advancing to 4D might get cleansed and start over. So that's the other reason why there may not be so many super advanced 3D worlds out there. I mean, once you get to Borg level, and you're this AI-controlled drone/slave, you really messed up. I don't know what hope there is for such a race, and perhaps the universe finds a way to reset them to give them a chance to grow again.

 

[Laura]

I started a thread on John DeSouza's take on things here:

John DeSouza and "The Extra-Dimensionals"

I decided to start a discussion of John DeSouza's ideas here rather than in the books forum. John DeSouza is this guy in the interview with Clayton Morris: After watching this interview, I obtained his book: "The Extra-Dimensionals: True Tales and Concepts of Alien Visitors". At the top...

cassiopaea.org

Hope I will get some participation since his little book really is QUITE interesting considering he's trying to figure out all the things we have worked on for years, only he's doing it without benefit of the Cs assistance.

 

[Echo Blue]

Just ordered the book!!! Looking forward to the discussion.

 

[SlipNet]

Dolan just dropped his latest vid, a talk with Anthony Peake about all things consciousness related. I'm only halfway into it, but it sounds like a guy who would gain a lot if he read all volumes of "The Wave". Isn't that so often the case though? Anyway, early on it sounds interesting so far so I'll vouch for it slightly in advance. He sees a link between the movements of the soul, such as NDEs, OOBEs, UFO abductions, and dreams too. He's on the right track for sure. He's grasping for that ineffable force (which I guess is 4d STS) that he can't quite articulate.

 

[SlipNet]

He's grasping for that ineffable force (which I guess is 4d STS) that he can't quite articulate.

Listening further he goes into the thorny YCYOR theory, and the notion that we interface with a nebulous consensus reality, along with a deeper causative force too. He's breaking things down into wave forms, but he's missing the main villains in the piece, and I needn't name them. But looking into how we interface, how wee see things, how we see in itself, is certainly a fascinating exercise. I've had an OOBE and a UFO sighting, so this is of interest to me for sure. I'd love to be able to understand the weird stuff I've seen over the years.

 

[SlipNet]

I don't think I've heard this talk with Dolan from late last year. It's a long one (4 hours!), and I'm only 1hr 30m into it, but it's a deep interview, exploring the full history of Dolan's work in the field from his time as an academic in the early 90's up to his groundbreaking reveal of the now infamous Davis/Wilson notes from a few years back. We covered that period in depth earlier in this thread. Now, thinking about the "program change" being forewarned by the Cs, and the convening of the Quorum, it felt like a fine time to check back with man whose first 2 books are up there with the finest books on the subject. Watch it chunks and enjoy if you're interested.

So far the talk has been a whistle-stop tour through all the key periods and events but it's perhaps nothing actually new for us on here. This is a good primer for intelligent people who want the whole phenomenon laid out clearly in terms of how these hidden SAPs have been slowly engaging with recovered tech over a 70 year period. However, who "they" are and what is their business he hesitates to answer. I'll share this vid with a couple of people I know as an intro to the subject. The interviewer is quiet mostly, but Dolan is on fine form, and he's come loaded with factual data along with some arch observations. I like his big notion that we are rapidly moving in an inexorable direction into a future that could be explosive. We're about to "leap into their world."

And as a follower of his writings for 20 years now, well, I hope he's right. I welcome this oft-mooted "levelling of the playing field". The Wave. And then what? Will we even know it when it happens? Has it already happened? So many perplexing imponderables tumble out of this mercurial subject. I give our world until 2030, and by then the shit will most definitely hit the fan. Lots to consider and the patience of the saints is now required.

 

[SlipNet]

Another interesting UFO discussion just came up on my YT feed, (sometimes old YouTube comes up with an old gem from the archives). This features veterans like Grant Cameron and Dolan again. I'm an insomniac so this is my bedtime chill listen for tonight. Plenty of good stuff from sharp minds on the now legendary Davis/Wilson notes from a few years back. You come away from reading the notes with a few solid understandings which can aid in standing us in good stead knowledge/being wise. For those not aware of the Davis/Wilson notes, and the subsequent leaking of them, it was an amazing revelation for some which confirmed a lot of UFO suspicions and some very interesting admissions from those "in the know". I'll use the collective "we" in my points, illustrating the insider's point of view:

1 UFOs are real, and we have in our possession alien technology we don't yet understand.

2 Private SAPs alone have access to this technology, and if you're not on "the bigot list" (ie-having a strict need to know) then you get no access to our reserves of data and information collected. We operate with zero governmental oversight and we proceed with caution and absolute secrecy.

3 Progress on our retro-engineering of recovered alien technology has been slow and ponderous. A failure to connect with and employ the most imaginative minds in society has subsequently, due to the "bigot list", turned out to be something of an ideological own goal. Ultimately we chose to draw clear lines on the "need to know" basis, and if anything leaks we will stonewall and deny everything with a steadfast conviction. We have broken people before who have probed too deeply.

4 The atmosphere felt by those "on the inside" is said to be akin to being in a pressure cooker with the lid constantly in danger of being blown off by the intensity felt on the inside. Many thinkers now act as whistle-blowers and a kind of "controlled disclosure" is possibly being attempted, or perhaps it manifests slowly on a case by case basis. There is a clear conflict of two general tendencies within those with higher knowledge on the inside. Those who believe the public have the right to know will ultimately score the odd minor victory, a hard-won battle in a larger informational war.

5 We need much more info before we can safely say we have a true understanding of the situation we face today. Thankfully on here, we have access to Laura's writing, and the sessions with the Cs. We work constantly on consolidating our understanding, and of course we now have the Substack writings of Harrison to add to that. That's been one of my top discoveries of the year for me, so many good articles on there. My god some of the info on there is sobering stuff, we really are up against it. We face an ineffable opposition a whole density above us, and the depth of the implications of that whole deal keeps me awake at night. Sometimes I cannot switch my mind off. We're up against a fading empire on 3d, and a monolithic union of darkness on 4d. We exist on both planes simultaneously and fight a twofold battle all the time. Thankfully, if you dedicate yourself to the cause with a genuine sense of purpose, so much more becomes available to the seeker. I've been reading about UFOs since 2001 and the time has been well spent. I'm satisfied by the certain data points I've read over the years, the work was worth it. It has strengthened my mind as a reading instrument.

6 Eventually I suspect this "controlled disclosure", along with the symptoms of earth changes, will be gradually amplified, and then of course there is a mild possibility of revelations of the now notorious underground breakaway civilization to consider. We could be on the cusp of extraordinary times. Let's proceed with open minds and a kind of intelligent tenacity as we grasp with the data. We've learned plenty so far, but there'll always be more data points to explore, and the wildest times are still in front of us. After all, "those who pay strict attention both left and right, they become the reality of the future". So much food for thought in that legendary quote from the Cs.

 

[SlipNet]

To follow up on my last post, I want to archive this 5hr (!) interview with an insider researcher on the Davis/Wilson notes. It's been many years since I listened to this, and a handy bonus if you listen on this forum link you'll eschew all those tedious advert breaks. This is according to Dolan, "the UFO leak of the century", and I happen to agree. We're still on the tip of the iceberg in terms of what those much vaunted "insiders" know about the phenomenon and the objective data they have collected. Enjoy in chunks and feed your head if you have the time and the patience. It's a unique view into what is going on behind the scenes.