Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

[seek10]

Decisive Failure Of US Forces

The numbers provided raise serious questions.

Some experts contacted by SouthFront said that even theoretically the SADF had not been capable to shoot down more than 15-20% of the launched missiles using its S-125, S-200, Buk, Kvadrat and Osa systems only. The SADF just does not have enoguh means and measures to intercept such a number of missiles simultaneously in one striking wave.

So what really happened?

The experts suggested that the Russian military had possibly used its state-of-the-art electronic warfare (EW) systems to counter the launched missiles during their final phase of flight path.

The most part of the flight path, the guidance for the Tomahawk cruise missile is provided by GPS. However, in the final phase, the missile starts using its internal guidance system. During this phase of the flight path the missile is vulnerable for EW counter-measures.
The missiles impacted by EW systems start to steer off. The missiles’ speed significantly reduces and they become an easy target for air defense systems or fall.​

Another factor, which “highly likely” contributed to the effectiveness of the Syrian counter-measures, is that Russia had provided the Syrian military with operational data from its technical reconnaissance net, including satellites and other surveillance means. Likely, Iran had done a similar thing. Thus, missiles launched from the Red Sea were detected immediately and tracked during all their flight path.

Using such tracking data, Russian-made air defense systems are capable of shooting down cruise missiles with a relatively high efficiency.

In any case, the 71 intercepted missiles of 103 launched are a decisive failure for the US and its allies. No doubts, the US military leadership did not expect this scenario.

If the data provided by the Russian Defense Ministry is confirmed, this will be the first time in the history when some side was able to repel a massive strike of the so-called modern high-precision weapons/missiles. In this case, should nuclear exchange between the US and Russia happen, the Russians will be able to intercept and counter the possible US nuclear strike. The damage delivered to Russia will be minimal.

So far [13:15 CET], the US has provided no comments on reports about the 71 downed missiles and has not even provided official info about the targets and weapons involved in its strike on Syria. Considering that the administration of US President Donald Trump likes “PR moves”, such a stance may be described as an indication that something “went wrong”.

 

[seek10]

After reading Saker's analysis of possible scenarios in which he mentioned that "100+ missiles are considered as a serious attack and if Russia doesn't retaliate it is bad for Russia's standing on the world stage" I wondered why Russia didn't react to the attack despite clear warnings they gave. Well, Iranian left T-4, Russia relocated the ships, moved more anti-missile batteries to Syria etc. which looks like a retreat.
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In retrospection, Russia by not directly reacting achieved a quite a lot unthinkable.

- If Russia attacked launchers, It is WWIII scenario that is exactly what Neocon crazies want. Russia saved the world from WWIII.
- Once War starts, it is all madness, it doesn't matter who is who. So by not doing it, They can expose More - fakeness of the chemical attacks, the insanity of the Western regimes, pursue them in UN and world stage, they get leverage of using this attack as an excuse for going more boldy getting rid of head-choppers and bringing the "balance" in the international stage. In a way, Russia's reaction is more or less similar to its reaction to Su fighter shooting down by Turkey. Russian non-reaction to the attacks is more and more sounding like occasional "feeding the egomaniacal beast".
- By assisting Syria to knock out 70% of the missiles, they did
- Saved LOT of lives in Syria and elsewhere.
- Demonstrated technological superiority of the Russian technologies, So LOT more business and True "Balancing" of powers, which is unthinkable 4 years back.
- Russians bought a lot of moral currency to root out the remaining areas probably controversial pockets like Al-Tanf, Turkish head-chopper controlled Idlib. West can cry of these fake Chemical attacks, Nobody is going to care anytime soon.

- Trump's speech sounded PURE evil. It looks he crossed the line by reading the text whoever wrote. It sounded they wanted to take "moral authority" back after Putin's famous UN speech "See, What you did". Interestingly, 2 days back, Turkey tried to preach both Russia and USA.
Turkey PM urges Russia, US to stop 'street fighting' over Syria
Really, Erdogan thinks he can preach Superpowers.
- By going to War without Congress's approval, Trump lost the voter base, exposed himself to impeachment, which Deep State can do whenever it wants.

It looks PUTIN is the ONLY adult on the World's stage. Russian reaction to this is subtle and probably doesn't want to antagonize these crazies until the Job in Syria is done.

Thank God, madness had passed without much damage.

 

[Ellipse]

I wondered why Russia didn't react to the attack despite clear warnings they gave

Because the targets were very narrow, no?

Look like a show for me. They fired a lot of missiles but to already evacuated sites. So no much damages, Russia army is not harmed but the psychos are relieved. For me it's Trump style (I hope) : I give some meat to the dogs which bit my back so they are calmed but always on a leash, I hope to gain credit on that and I know that the other side is clever enough to agree with that.

To ponder that,we know that Putin react but not in the heat of the moment.

 

[Cosmos]

Because the targets were very narrow, no?

Look like a show for me. They fired a lot of missiles but to already evacuated sites. So no much damages, Russia army is not harmed but the psychos are relieved. For me it's Trump style (I hope) : I give some meat to the dogs which bit my back so they are calmed but always on a leash, I hope to gain credit on that and I know that the other side is clever enough to agree with that.

To ponder that,we know that Putin react but not in the heat of the moment.

The only source I'm aware of that talked about directly targeting the launch sides (aka. ships) of the missiles, in case of an attack, is the russian diplomat in Beirut who alluded to it. I'm not aware of any other official statement from the Kremlin itself, or speakers of it, to that extend. There is also the possibility that the guy in Beirut just guessed that this will be the reaction, or he deliberately made that statement to confuse and/or to mitigate the US response.

 

[mabar]

Live UN council called by Russia, just heard France participation Now is China UN Security Council discusses US-led airstrikes in Syria
---something weird happend because China was speaking up and was ready to read something and ... it jumped to Kazakhstan

 

[thorbiorn]

Right the security council meeting is being transmitted on RT. Kasakhstan, Poland, Sweden, Netherland has been talking. (Poland and Netherland expressedly support the actions of the US, UK and Fr. The Netherlands and Poland blame Russia and Assad for everything, basically.) The person from Bolivia is making a great speech expressing surprise at three UNSC permanent members having broking the UN charter by their onesided attack.

 

[luc]

This is all very interesting! So, as I understand it from Russia's official statements, the SAA/Russia were about to kick the terrorists out once and for all, even achieving deals and so on. So the Western psychos in the intel services called their headchopper-friends, the White Helmets, to hurry up with their planned staging of a chemical attack so that the US can demonize Assad even more. But there was a problem: This time, they lost control over the area of the non-existent chemical attack so that the (non-)evidence was there to see for Russia and the world. So they needed to act quickly and start their attacks before the OPCW guys show up in Syria. So they make a big show with their attack on the "brutal dictator". Turns out most of the missiles were intercepted, which shows just what a farce the US is at this point - they can scream through their media, but they are rapidly fading as a dominant empire. But Putin, who is wise enough not to corner a mad dog with its paws on a nuclear bomb, still leaves them a way out to save face - the US can just spread their narrative that they "sent a clear warning" and all this nonsense, but still, the whole world gets the message: the mad dog is dying. The world has changed.

It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds, where the Western alliance falls apart behind the scenes etc. because everyone with a brain can see what's going on, including the governments and bureaucracies of other Western countries. Nobody dares "going public" yet and they are still playing along, but who knows?

Yet it's still such a tragedy for Syria - as Maria Zakharova kind of said, when the Syrian people finally see a chance to rebuild their country, they get punished again by these evil bastards who just refuse to "go away"!!

 

[Ca.]

Trump Lied to the American People Last Night, 23 Times in 7 Minutes, Destroying his Presidency
Charles Bausman 5 hours ago
Snip:

It was clear from the first few minutes of War secretary Mattis's press conference last night that these strikes were going to be symbolic. They change nothing on the ground militarily. Russia's threat to respond worked - the US essentially backed down.

Far more important is the damage Trump did to himself politically. One can only guess at the pressures brought to bear on him to take this suicidal (politically) act. I'm starting to think that this whole charade, starting with the Skripal poisoning a month ago, was an elaborate plot to mortally damage his presidency, not to achieve anything in Syria - well, if so, the plotters have succeeded.

Trump has said and done many things that can hurt him over the past 18 months, but nothing as bad as standing up in front of the American people, and with great solemnity and invoking WW1 gassings, 'nobility' of warriors, prayer, and all this sort of talk, telling one whopping lie after another, looking straight into the camera. He knows they are lies, and a good chunk of the American electorate knows they are - I'm guessing 30% of the whole, and a good 50% of his base. That is not something you can come back from.

He just burned his bridges with a lot of people who think telling the truth is important.

Watching the conservative wall lining up against the bombing yesterday I wrote with great conviction that Trump would not do it, and confidently called it a day. How mistaken I was.

Skipping Down:

The full text of what he said follows below. I counted 23 lies, which I underlined. I cringed watching a president I voted for stand there and parrot them, acting like he had a gun to his head. I know he knows they are lies, and so do 10s of millions of Americans. A sad day indeed.

My comments in parentheses. Video follows below: Link For The Full View:

Sputnik
Russia Calls US 'Aggressor,' Washington 'Locked and Loaded' to Hit Syria Again
(updated 19:48 14.04.2018)

Summing Up Results Of US-UK-France Strike On Syria: Statements, Facts And Speculations
14.04.2018 (Video's Tweets Pic's)

 

[Siberia]

I'm afraid that Trump is toast after these Syria strikes, as his base has split quite significantly over this issue. Sure, there are still many loyal supporters, including such media stars like Bill Mitchell and others, but he has effectively lost all (at nearly all) alternative media support. Quite a few people who have hundreds of thousands followers on their social media accounts have turned their back on Trump over the last few days.

How is Trump going to survive this major blow? And what if he doesn't?

 

[Laura]

I'm afraid that Trump is toast after these Syria strikes, as his base has split quite significantly over this issue. Sure, there are still many loyal supporters, including such media stars like Bill Mitchell and others, but he has effectively lost all (at nearly all) alternative media support. Quite a few people who have hundreds of thousands followers on their social media accounts have turned their back on Trump over the last few days.

How is Trump going to survive this major blow? And what if he doesn't?

Well, they sure set him up, it seems. I've been pretty busy on twitter today just to help vent my frustration. I invite others to join me. I've got a good collection of tweets already so feel free to work off my tweet/retweet wall.

 

[thorbiorn]

I'm afraid that Trump is toast after these Syria strikes, as his base has split quite significantly over this issue. Sure, there are still many loyal supporters, including such media stars like Bill Mitchell and others, but he has effectively lost all (at nearly all) alternative media support. Quite a few people who have hundreds of thousands followers on their social media accounts have turned their back on Trump over the last few days.

How is Trump going to survive this major blow? And what if he doesn't?

Even without the political consequences, it must be very taxing to his health to work for this level of lies and lunacy.

 

[seek10]

The only source I'm aware of that talked about directly targeting the launch sides (aka. ships) of the missiles, in case of an attack, is the russian diplomat in Beirut who alluded to it. I'm not aware of any other official statement from the Kremlin itself, or speakers of it, to that extend. There is also the possibility that the guy in Beirut just guessed that this will be the reaction, or he deliberately made that statement to confuse and/or to mitigate the US response.

Well, I lost track of how it all started, but this is a very good example of how things can go out of control so fast and even planets can be destroyed. If one Russian diplomat statement pissed Trump that pushed him to do a public tweet, thus locking him up for an inevitable attack to save the face, thus build up Rhetoric to the point only 2 sides exist. The heat of the moment is very high. Imagine if the North Korea guy or Erdogan type of guy exists in Putin's situation, they would have gone full hog and might have easily locked in battle. Probably, Red button too. This also reminds me of WW I textbook cause that was told for WW I (Some Austrian diplomat was killed so War with Millions dead, Empires collapsed(Ottoman and Prussian etc.))

After all the attack, there is no consensus about the target. Russian version makes sense, US version opposite
Summing Up Results Of US-UK-France Strike On Syria: Statements, Facts And Speculations

Russian Version

• Four missiles were launched at the area of the Damascus International Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
• 12 missiles were launched at the Al-Dumayr Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
• 18 missiles were launched at the Baly Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
• 12 missiles were launched at the Shayarat Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
• 9 missiles were launched at the Mezzeh Military Airport. Five of them were intercepted.
• 16 missiles were launched at the Homs Military Airport. 13 of them were intercepted.
• 30 missiles were launched at targets in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani. Seven missiles were intercepted.

The targets of the attack, according to the Pentagon:

• 76 missiles – “Barzah Research and Development Center”
• 22 missiles – “Him Shinshar Chemical Weapons Storage Site”
• 7 missiles – “Him Shinshar CW Bunker”

i.e. FUKUS targetted airports with a hope to destroy the SAA mobility. Airports as a target is understandable based on previous wars like Iraq war. But, that didn't work out, so they have recount the numbers where few missiles fell and put it as Chemical Weapons location. If this is true, US had planned for a rather long war.

Summing up the recent developments it should be noted that the Pentagon’s version of events raises the main question: How 76 missiles delivered so little damage to “Barzah Research and Development Center” if all the missiles had reached their targets.

 

[Turgon]

Even without the political consequences, it must be very taxing to his health to work for this level of lies and lunacy.

I would think so, too. I just watched Bombard's assessment of his recent speech, which was so contradictory and full of psychopathic projection, and even though it's a subjective approach, she says he 1) he clearly didn't write the speech 2) seems comfortable and at ease with what he was saying. Then again, lies can affect you in other ways that aren't immediate.

 

[Ca.]

From CNN
CNN goes inside Syrian refugees camp after airstrikes
Apr 14, 2018 / 10:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uc8uhWpCPM

 

[BlackCartouche]

"He just burned his bridges with a lot of people who think telling the truth is important."

How is Trump going to survive this major blow?

Funny isn't it. Other Presidents lie and scheme to their hearts content to the detriment of 'their' people along with massive civilian bloodshed overseas including the totting up body-count of their own troops, and they get 2 full terms in office. When Trump lies, not only does he avoid a potentially disastrous conflict with a formidable highly organised nuclear power (Russia) whilst nevertheless taking military action despite grave warnings not to (thus arguably saving some of face) but, according to The Independent "...Russian air defences appear not to have been used and it is likely that the Americans and the French, who had been liaising with the Moscow, had obtained agreement that they would not be" - actually suggests possible cooperation.
Chosen Targets: Destroyed (according to West).
Confrontation with Nuclear Foe: Avoided.
Casualties (thus far) = 0

....Yet this is a political disaster touting the end for Trump? I see...

Bad lies = Good
Good lies = Bad