Session 1 March 2025

[jcsmalz]

Doesn't the Quorum contain STO also? Isn't it about balance?

Yes, the Quorum is equally STO and STS

 

[Artisan Well]

One of the things I've been pondering as well. If we take what Trump is doing on one hand, it's a breath of fresh air. He's looking to cut big government, move away from endless wars, stop foreign aid, and bring companies back to the USA from overseas.

On the other hand, he looking to fire tens of thousands of Americans from federal jobs during one of the worst job markets in decades. I have heard from many people they have applied endlessly for jobs, and many with higher education degrees, for months with no luck (I have a relative going through this right now). Plus, this will certainly make bureaucracy even more of a nightmare.

In addition, federal spending cuts makes sense. However, domestically the USA cannot function without federal aid. Federal aid is in practically every aspect of our infrastructure, education, crop production, food, state agencies, etc etc. It can quickly become difficult for students to get funding for higher education programs. Costs of groceries could continue to rise. States would go bankrupt without funding from federal agencies. Farmers wouldn't be able to afford to grow their crops.

We absolutely need to pull the plug on the war machine, but the military industrial complex is the rotten backbone of the USA. That could lead to even more unemployment numbers and economic crash.

I can see, and agree, with most of what the Trump administration is going for. Unfortunately, I'm hesitant to think this will end well. These sort of policies will be beneficial in the long run, but painful at first. It's maybe not the best idea to do these radical changes after the economic state the country, and most the world, has been in over the last 5yrs. I'm starting to wonder now if we are seeing "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" playing out in front of us.

Much of the proposed cuts are for things that constitutionally should belong to the states. Federal workers, say for example in Education, can work for state education departments. I think the overall goal is to grow the private sector and you are correct in pointing out how dependent the system has become on public money - like a drug addiction - there will be pain, but ideally creativity will kick in as USA transitions to making things with less regulation and administrative bloat.

 

[nortkee]

I hope you have read at bare minimum The Wave if you're reading the raw transcripts. You should also have a background in Gurdjieff, Ouspensky, Mouravieff and Laura's books - Secret History et al before reading the transcripts.

It would be even better to read the entire recommended reading list and Adventures with Cassiopaea before doing so.

Yep, I've read The Wave and most of the available works on the website, and am (slowly but surely -- curse this wretched 9 to 5!) making my way through the other founts of knowledge you reference. :)

 

[thorbiorn]

Thank you for sharing the recent session.

Yeah tell me about it, I live in México my man in Jalisco, the drug cartel dude, these bastards have taken the control all over the place, you don't know if around the corner you will face gun shots or see someone getting killed, I'm just tired of living in fear and there's no help, no help, but you say "cheer up it can go far worse".........ok

I hope you can carry through this difficult time.

With regard to "cheer up it can go far worse", just about anything can be worse, but imagination can also fail people who are not recently familiar with what can be. This is excusable, since there is nothing peculiar about imagination having some boundaries, perhaps similar to how we talk about numbers. For instance, a top investment banker may have a decent idea of what one can acquire for 700 billion or a trillion USD of Euro but most wage earners will not know.

Here is one mention in relation to lived experience varying a lot. Though it appears in a different context, the point is still clear enough.
Session 22 March 2014

Q: (Ark) I think that what is of value is that he has the right team of advisors. When you have your advisors and they are smart and knowledgeable, they are experts in certain areas, and they will say, "If you do this, this will be the result, so I suggest that."

A: Indeed, there are many in Russia who learned in a school of hard reality difficult for Westerners to imagine. On top of this, they are better educated in general.

For another example, at least for westerners, there was this post about Mozambique in Africa, which mentions 250-350 people killed in political violence following an election in October last year, a story about corrupt police letting two pro inmates out temporarily to kill political opponents, and 500 km of road damaged by burning tires. Not mentioned but many gas stations were vandalized and toll gates have been ravaged. These instances, in a country of about 35 million people, is several steps ahead of what has been observed in Western Europe and North America so far. If the US had seen protests of that magnitude following the November election, there would by now be around 3000 people killed. How would people in the US have reacted if that had happened?

Having begun with exploring what is and what can be, in the recent session, there was:

Q: (JEEP) Will air travel become much more dangerous generally?

A: Yes and all other.

We don't know what "much more dangerous" in the above context will means. Danger can come from many sources.

However, a country that already is in the league of dangerous travel could be South Africa, where hijackings are quite common:
Huge Increase in New Hijacking Hotspots in South Africa
A Comprehensive Guide to Safeguarding Against Hijackings in South Africa
Beware these new hijacking trends on South Africa’s highways
But that was just the hijacking of cars.

The Wiki for Crime in South Africa

In April 2022, Numbeo found that 5 of the top 20 most dangerous cities in the world were in South Africa.[109] In 2023 the IEP's Global Peace Index ranked South Africa 130th out of 163 nations (32nd out of 44 in sub-Saharan Africa) in terms of peacefulness, and the cost of violence was estimated at R3.30 trillion ($176.49 billion) in 2022, or 15% of the country’s GDP.[110]

In 2022, the murder rate was 45,53 per 100,000 people, the fourth highest in the world, according to UNODC reports.[119] The Eastern Cape, Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal provinces have the highest murder rates in the country.[120] South Africa has four cities (Nelson Mandela Bay, Durban, Cape Town and Johannesburg) included in the top 50 most dangerous cities (defined as cities with a population over 300,000 with the highest murder rates, as reported by The Citizen Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice, a Mexican advocacy group, in its 2023/2024 ranking).[121]

The source for [121]: The most violent cities in South Africa – with a new number 1 ranking among the worst of the worst in the world
has an instructive table, and that brings the discussion back to Mexico, though I am wondering about Venezuela, but maybe statistics is not available? Anyway, the table shows 16 Mexican cities in the top 50 list! Brazil has 10 cities, Colombia eight, the US six.

@c0rv3n I'm not suggesting you tell us which town you live in, besides it may not be on the list, and since the listed locations have more than 300,000 inhabitants, there will be many smaller places that are no safer, but given the data, interested readers have the possibility to compare the rates of the most violent cities, to what they are surrounded with in their own neighbourhoods.

There are other difficult locations of armed conflict or armed violent suppression as in Gaza, Ukraine, and now Syria. In fact, there might well be an overlap between the trauma that can be caused by living in the area of an armed conflict and that experienced by some people living in a high crime area. As an example of a paper, though it is a graduate thesis, could be High-crime neighborhoods as a war zone: comparing trauma as a result of war and neighborhood violence from April 2017. Whether it is a war zone or a very violent crime area, what else can a person do but trying to counteract possible negative effects?

Besides the negative, there may for a few people, whether they are good guys or bad guys (which for them would be a double positive), also be an enhancing of a sixth sense. Doing a search on "sixth sense of people in conflict zones" led to this article:

The U.S. Military Believes People Have a Sixth Sense
By Annie Jacobsen
April 3, 2017 4:48 PM EDT
Jacobsen's new book is Nuclear War: A Scenario

In 2014, the Office of Naval Research embarked on a four-year, $3.85 million research program to explore the phenomena it calls premonition and intuition, or “Spidey sense,” for sailors and Marines.

“We have to understand what gives rise to this so-called ‘sixth sense,’ says Peter Squire, a program officer in ONR’s Expeditionary Maneuver Warfare and Combating Terrorism department. Today’s Navy scientists place less emphasis on trying to understand the phenomena theoretically and more on using technology to examine the mysterious process, which Navy scientists assure the public is not based on superstition. “If the researchers understand the process, there may be ways to accelerate it — and possibly spread the powers of intuition throughout military units,” says Dr. Squire. The Pentagon’s focus is to maximize the power of the sixth sense for operational use. “If we can characterize this intuitive decision-making process and model it, then the hope is to accelerate the acquisition of these skills,” says Lieutenant Commander Brent Olde of ONR’s Warfighter Performance Department for Human and Bioengineered Systems. “[Are] there ways to improve premonition through training?” he asks.

According to the Pentagon, the program was born of field reports from the war theater, including a 2006 incident in Iraq, when Staff Sergeant Martin Richburg, using intuition, prevented carnage in an IED, or improvised explosive device, incident. Commander Joseph Cohn, a program manager at the naval office, told the New York Times, “These reports from the field often detailed a ‘sixth sense’ or ‘Spidey sense’ that alerted them to an impending attack or I.E.D., or that allowed them to respond to a novel situation without consciously analyzing the situation.”

More than a decade later, today’s Defense Department has accelerated practical applications of this concept. Active-duty Marines are being taught to hone precognitive skills in order to “preempt snipers, IED emplacers and other irregular assaults [using] advanced perceptual competences that have not been well studied.” Because of the stigma of ESP and PK, the nomenclature has changed, allowing the Defense Department to distance itself from its remote-viewing past. Under the Perceptual Training Systems and Tools banner, extrasensory perception has a new name in the modern era: “sensemaking.” In official Defense Department literature sensemaking is defined as “a motivated continuous effort to understand connections (which can be among people, places, and events) in order to anticipate their trajectories and act effectively.”

Over decades, wars change location and weapons design evolves, while man’s perceptual capacities remain relatively close to what they have been for thousands of years. Fifty years ago in Vietnam, Joe McMoneagle used his sixth sense to avoid stepping on booby traps, falling into punji pits, and walking into Viet Cong ambushes. His ability to sense danger was not lost on his fellow soldiers, and the power of his intuitive capabilities spread throughout his military unit. Other soldiers had confidence in this subconscious ability and followed McMoneagle’s lead. In a life-or-death environment there was no room for skepticism or ignominy. If it saved lives, it was real. Since 1972, CIA and DoD research indicates that premonition, or precognition, appears to be weak in some, strong in others, and extraordinary in a rare few. Will the Navy’s contemporary work on “sensemaking,” the continuous effort to understand the connections among people, places, and events, finally unlock the mystery of ESP? Might technology available to today’s defense scientists reveal hypothe- ses not available to scientists in an earlier age?

[...]

Jacobsen is a journalist and the author of Phenomena, from which this was adapted, and the Pulitzer finalist The Pentagon’s Brain, among other books.

People who discover their sixth sense in a conflict zone might have had it all along, for others maybe the stress of situations switches the potential on? Few people can probably rely on their sixth sense, they have to live with daily uncertainty and get along as best they can by being careful. Apart from that, there is not only the threat to ones own life but also the potential loss of family and friends. Little wonder a violent environment can weigh heavily on the heart.

 

[Beau]

Well, if I read somewhere that I had required to read something, that would be the best way to ensure that I never read that thing.

Advising that it can help is another thing.

When being contrarian becomes your hammer, all you'll see are nails.

 

[c0rv3n]

Thank you for sharing the recent session.

I hope you can carry through this difficult time.

With regard to "cheer up it can go far worse", just about anything can be worse, but imagination can also fail people who are not recently familiar with what can be. This is excusable, since there is nothing peculiar about imagination having some boundaries, perhaps similar to how we talk about numbers. For instance, a top investment banker may have a decent idea of what one can acquire for 700 billion or a trillion USD of Euro but most wage earners will not know.

Here is one mention in relation to lived experience varying a lot. Though it appears in a different context, the point is still clear enough.
Session 22 March 2014


For another example, at least for westerners, there was this post about Mozambique in Africa, which mentions 250-350 people killed in political violence following an election in October last year, a story about corrupt police letting two pro inmates out temporarily to kill political opponents, and 500 km of road damaged by burning tires. Not mentioned but many gas stations were vandalized and toll gates have been ravaged. These instances, in a country of about 35 million people, is several steps ahead of what has been observed in Western Europe and North America so far. If the US had seen protests of that magnitude following the November election, there would by now be around 3000 people killed. How would people in the US have reacted if that had happened?

Having begun with exploring what is and what can be, in the recent session, there was:

We don't know what "much more dangerous" in the above context will means. Danger can come from many sources.

However, a country that already is in the league of dangerous travel could be South Africa, where hijackings are quite common:
Huge Increase in New Hijacking Hotspots in South Africa
A Comprehensive Guide to Safeguarding Against Hijackings in South Africa
Beware these new hijacking trends on South Africa’s highways
But that was just the hijacking of cars.

The Wiki for Crime in South Africa


The source for [121]: The most violent cities in South Africa – with a new number 1 ranking among the worst of the worst in the world
has an instructive table, and that brings the discussion back to Mexico, though I am wondering about Venezuela, but maybe statistics is not available? Anyway, the table shows 16 Mexican cities in the top 50 list! Brazil has 10 cities, Colombia eight, the US six.
View attachment 106632
@c0rv3n I'm not suggesting you tell us which town you live in, besides it may not be on the list, and since the listed locations have more than 300,000 inhabitants, there will be many smaller places that are no safer, but given the data, interested readers have the possibility to compare the rates of the most violent cities, to what they are surrounded with in their own neighbourhoods.

There are other difficult locations of armed conflict or armed violent suppression as in Gaza, Ukraine, and now Syria. In fact, there might well be an overlap between the trauma that can be caused by living in the area of an armed conflict and that experienced by some people living in a high crime area. As an example of a paper, though it is a graduate thesis, could be High-crime neighborhoods as a war zone: comparing trauma as a result of war and neighborhood violence from April 2017. Whether it is a war zone or a very violent crime area, what else can a person do but trying to counteract possible negative effects?

Besides the negative, there may for a few people, whether they are good guys or bad guys (which for them would be a double positive), also be an enhancing of a sixth sense. Doing a search on "sixth sense of people in conflict zones" led to this article:

People who discover their sixth sense in a conflict zone might have had it all along, for others maybe the stress of situations switches the potential on? Few people can probably rely on their sixth sense, they have to live with daily uncertainty and get along as best they can by being careful. Apart from that, there is not only the threat to ones own life but also the potential loss of family and friends. Little wonder a violent environment can weigh heavily on the heart.

Thank you, this is realy interesting and I know the conflicts in other parts of the world like South Africa or Gaza are way worse than here in Jalisco (I'm surprised Jalisco/Guadalajara is not on the list you shared) and I can't even begin to comprehend the pain it is causing to people there, however, I live here not there, don't take this the wrong way I mean the situation there is really sad but what can I do? For me it is really frustrating that people don't even care, if they can afford to buy a beer, tacos or tortas, and watch soccer, they are fine. I can't talk to anybody about this, not even with my girlfriend, she always gives me that look like "oh crap, here we go" and rolls her eyes, I can only talk about these things here in the forums, sometimes I wish I have a friend I could talk to face to face, you know? Just talk.

I can feel the pain, I can feel that everything is going to hell.
Near where I live they have discovered bags full of body parts but you don't see that on the news, they don't talk about it and the pople who know about this and that have seen who threw those bags full of body parts, they just ignore them and they have become desensitized, I don't know if that's the correct term but what I'm trying to say is that they don't care they see this as a "normal business day", you know? Tell me how can I walk on the street knowing this and not feel a little paranoid and afraid? I'm tired of being scared all the time.
I'm just tired, and then we go back to the expectation thing, I'm expecting the world to change even though deep down in my heart I know that it won't happen, so I just have to pray, accept the situation and just change how I see things, change the perspective, stop expecting and just be a good person like some other good people have suggested in the forum, I just I feel I'm all alone and I'm left with me.
Yeah I know, I should go to the shrink right?

Thanks for replying @thorbiorn, I appreciate that.

 

[Ricardo]

heay , them's called shrinks for a reason ya know?, best tool know yourself , found this on the forum recently , it may help , Color Oracle

 

[Angchop]

Thanks for another informative session! Much to think about as always

 

[Kika]

Thanks for sharing another session.
Reading the comments, I got the impression that my understanding of Quorum was different from others. That was the impetus to do some research on the term.

According to the dictionary :

1: the minimum number of officers or members of a body that is required to be present at a given meeting (as to transact business)

2: a select group

3: a body of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints comprising those in the same grade of priesthood



Quorum Has a Legal History

This word, which can be pluralized as quorums or quora, comes directly from the Latin word quorum, which translates as "of whom." At one time, this Latin quorum was used in the wording of the commissions granting power to justices of the peace in England. Later, when it became an English noun, quorum initially referred to the number of justices of the peace who had to be present to constitute a legally sufficient bench.

Then I looked at Cassviki to check the "official opinion" about Quorum.

According to the Cassiopaeans, the Quorum is a group working at the higher echelons of the hierarchy of Earth. It is described as a “deeper knowledge organization”. The Quorum are said to communicate with the Cassiopaeans regularly, and be primarily composed of aliens working together with the higher levels of the Illuminati.

The following part of the transcript describes their function as “watchers”:

Q: (L) How is the Quorum important in regard to the Earth changes?

A: Watchers.

Q: (L) Why is it important to have watchers?

A: Keep track of prophecies.

Since English is not my native language and I rely heavily on machine translators, the answer: “A: Keep track of prophecies.” I took it as an instruction to Laura on how to find the answer to her question, not as the purpose of the Quorum. I suppose in that case it would read: “A: Keeping track of prophecies.”
If I misunderstood, please tell me.

And finally

It was mentioned in the transcripts that this organization is completely secret to mankind at this time, but said to be important in regards to the future.

So my understanding of Quorum;

First, if I use the comparison with school. The school management board, which ensures that the lessons (curriculum) are well mastered and the exams are passed.

This then leads to another possible purpose, which is; selected group to monitor the "harvest". (prophecy?)

That's where I come to Trump.

Seen from the perspective of the Harvest, I did not consider the support for Trump and his election as president to be a shift to something better, but rather a return to the old ways.

I considered all the crap that happened before Trump to be shocks that will make people "wake up", to start asking questions, looking for answers, making decisions and thus choosing "which god to pray to" (STS or STO).
"Sheep" choosing their own path in search of "food". We have an expression "Svak zase travu pase" (Everyone grazes the grass for themselves). A scattered flock that is difficult to control. My desolate desires. With the information received about the violation of free will, and the sparing of Trump, it is obvious that people did not choose new paths, but a return to the old.

With the election of Trump, the flock is together again and looks to the ram as the leader.

Q: (PopHistorian) On a scale of 1-10, how well are the plans of the powers that be succeeding right now?

A: Depends on who you think you are referring to. Current "elites" are not doing so well. But the quorum is doing quite well.

Q: (L) And the quorum was the one that was in charge of deciding that Trump would not be assassinated, was that correct?

(Joe) Would be assassinated and then had to change their plans...

(L) And to change their plan because they were, because there were imbalances of some sort. So... They're up to something!

A: Yes

This part and Trump's behavior opens up space for a new "optimistic" fantasy for me.

If the Quorum is in charge of a successful harvest, and if they are doing well, it means that this is a better path for the "scattered / awakened flock" ready for the harvest. (Which is beneficial for both STO and STS). The previous path (Woke) led to the smashing of souls, not to the harvest (which is a loss for both STO and STS).

This is how I am currently thinking.

 

[Matty F]

You can find all the criteria here:

hEDS Diagnostic Checklist - The Ehlers Danlos Society

www.ehlers-danlos.com

I was asked by a rheumatologist to run the Beighton score in a teenager as a screen test, and that's how I realized I was a textbook case when I checked 9 out of 9 in the score and found at least 5 or 6 clinical criteria for the syndrome. Plus the pains, luxations, etc. I always had the sense of having conjunctive tissue problems, I just didn't know I was a match for this particular syndrome. In my mind, Ehler Danlos label should be given only to those with the vascular kind when the aorta gets so big that people live only until their 50s due to aortic dissection/ruptures. This hypermobile version should be called conjunctive tissue disorder or something or other. They might change the names in a few years.

I got checked by an Ehler Danlos specialist, and he even found stuff I didn't know, like the bilateral piezogenic papules of the heel, and other stuff relating to my nervous system. For instance, if you separate all the fingers in your hand and someone tries to forcefully close them, I can resist the maneuver just fine. But if you touch the skin in my shoulder, that's it, I can't resist. Like a failed kinesiology test where you don't have muscle force.

I check all the autonomic imbalances, but the most incapacitating this year for me is the fatigue, which I qualify as severe. Specially after any minor stress like a head cold of less than 24 hours without fever. I was prescribed oxygen at high flow, 3 to 4 times per day, for my fatigue. It works like a charm! The HBOT usually makes me feel even more tired for at least a few dozen sessions before I finally have energy. With the high flow oxygen, the energy arrives within seconds.

Medical history turned out a textbook case: luxations, mastocytosis, neuropathic pains, etc. I'm getting a bunch of tools to improve my proprioception. I might finally stop stumbling against doors and walk in a more grounded way.

I'm attaching an article describing the syndromes of the extracellular matrix/joint hypermobility. I think it's applicable to 2-3% or more of the population with genetic anomalies coding at this level. Whether hypermobility or not, it gives an idea of how to take care of the conjunctive tissue and related low dopamine problems,

You can find all the criteria here:

hEDS Diagnostic Checklist - The Ehlers Danlos Society

www.ehlers-danlos.com

I was asked by a rheumatologist to run the Beighton score in a teenager as a screen test, and that's how I realized I was a textbook case when I checked 9 out of 9 in the score and found at least 5 or 6 clinical criteria for the syndrome. Plus the pains, luxations, etc. I always had the sense of having conjunctive tissue problems, I just didn't know I was a match for this particular syndrome. In my mind, Ehler Danlos label should be given only to those with the vascular kind when the aorta gets so big that people live only until their 50s due to aortic dissection/ruptures. This hypermobile version should be called conjunctive tissue disorder or something or other. They might change the names in a few years.

I got checked by an Ehler Danlos specialist, and he even found stuff I didn't know, like the bilateral piezogenic papules of the heel, and other stuff relating to my nervous system. For instance, if you separate all the fingers in your hand and someone tries to forcefully close them, I can resist the maneuver just fine. But if you touch the skin in my shoulder, that's it, I can't resist. Like a failed kinesiology test where you don't have muscle force.

I check all the autonomic imbalances, but the most incapacitating this year for me is the fatigue, which I qualify as severe. Specially after any minor stress like a head cold of less than 24 hours without fever. I was prescribed oxygen at high flow, 3 to 4 times per day, for my fatigue. It works like a charm! The HBOT usually makes me feel even more tired for at least a few dozen sessions before I finally have energy. With the high flow oxygen, the energy arrives within seconds.

Medical history turned out a textbook case: luxations, mastocytosis, neuropathic pains, etc. I'm getting a bunch of tools to improve my proprioception. I might finally stop stumbling against doors and walk in a more grounded way.

I'm attaching an article describing the syndromes of the extracellular matrix/joint hypermobility. I think it's applicable to 2-3% or more of the population with genetic anomalies coding at this level. Whether hypermobility or not, it gives an idea of how to take care of the conjunctive tissue and related low dopamine problems, among others.

Thank you Gaby for this information . My son has been recently diagnosed with hypermobility. I’m still trying to find out more information about it, so this is much appreciated. I’m pleased to hear you’re having success with the oxygen x

 

[Wandering Star]

When being contrarian becomes your hammer, all you'll see are nails.

The translation into Spanish gives me a meaningless sentence and with my English I don't understand it very well.

I guess you say something like: "if another person is your hammer, all you see are nails."

If it's more or less that, I agree.

Asking the hammer for kindness doesn't usually work.

 

[Deliverance]

Since English is not my native language and I rely heavily on machine translators,

Sessions are translated into many languages, so you can check details or ask questions.

 

[Ricardo]

The translation into Spanish gives me a meaningless sentence and with my English I don't understand it very well.

I guess you say something like: "if another person is your hammer, all you see are nails."

If it's more or less that, I agree.

Asking the hammer for kindness doesn't usually work.

@Beau is equating only having a hammer with being contrarian , fom the english saying ," If Your Only Tool Is a Hammer Then Every Problem Looks Like a Nail " , " Si tu única herramienta es un martillo, todos los problemas parecen clavos " Link

 

[Beau]

The translation into Spanish gives me a meaningless sentence and with my English I don't understand it very well.

I guess you say something like: "if another person is your hammer, all you see are nails."

No, it means that you've identified so much with being disagreeable that you negatively affect your own spiritual progress in service of the contrarian mindset. You didn't like the term "required reading" and said in that case you wouldn't read what is suggested. This hurts only yourself, no one else.

 

[Wandering Star]

No, it means that you've identified so much with being disagreeable that you negatively affect your own spiritual progress in service of the contrarian mindset. You didn't like the term "required reading" and said in that case you wouldn't read what is suggested. This hurts only yourself, no one else.

Ah..., okay thanks.

Yes, I am very rebellious and I only accept advice from those who, in my limited understanding, I understand as wise people.

So thanks for your advice.