Session 1 March 2025

jcsmalz SAID: The Quorum is a group comprised of equal numbers of 4D STO and STS beings

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I understand that but, who prcisely chooses those STO and STS members?

It's difficult for me to understand this balance, this count that the Quorum draws up of STO and STS members.

Who decided to form it? Is it autonomous? Because if it is autonomous, then I understand less.

I consider, as I have said on other occasions, that the word "autonomy" is a truly perverse word, along with another word called "inflation," a word whose meaning is like an enormous trap into which most countries in the world have fallen and continue to fall, economically speaking, and no country questions anything.

This is very interesting:

Q: (L) Okay, the ones in the quorum are those who are focused on service to others, and they, in their path of service to others, begin to understand that some service to self is service to others.
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This is understandable, but what about the changing timelines in the universe, and especially in the third dimensión, I think they influence this issue too.
 
T.C. said:
To understand this unindividuation of the soul, I suppose that metaphysically, if I decide to act against my soul, then that would produce a split in my soul, since there would need to be two things existing - the one part to act against the other. And it's the one that 'acts against' that gets smashed, amputated.
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Seems reasonable. Since we are all part of "something bigger" (group soul or whatever) if we somehow 'went against' the nature of our soul group in a definitive way, then we're essentially detached from the one thing that can ensure our future survival. Separate and alone, like that, we probably are unable to withstand cosmic forces and 'disintegrate'. Basically, unite or perish!
 
meadow_wind said:
I think that the session of 14 Sept 2009 would be the best to describe things in detail.
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It's descriptive, so susceptible to interpretation.

For example, smashed souls are going to repeat the cycle of billions of years of lessons. Yet there are exceptions: for example, as far as I remember, Adolf Hitler was sleeping, open to reincarnate, and getting help from STO beings. Of course, I'm using a graphic example, but the session was related to torture. And tortures are very different: you can slaughter people, but you can also participate in the education system or be a TV presenter. There are different intentions and levels of impact. For example, TV is pumping stress, but it isn't your original intention. You are just told to use that specific stressful tone when talking about stressful things. It's all part of the Matrix. But I guess people higher in the hierarchy and more aware would be responsible. They could also use unaware puppets, even TV owners. Teachers can be like in 1984 or North Korea. But it is also protecting children from going to prisons. And these are also graphic examples. You can also 'torture' people hiring then and giving then normalized working schedules, which isn't indeed very developing, or 20-year loans, which they consider helpful. You can have difficult personality, and you can be intentionally mean. You can also 'wake people up with knowledge', or somehow lead them into mental confusion and suffering with it - even Buddhists say that telling someone something they are not prepared for causes karmic burden. So there are thousands of cases related to impacting others. Unless you mean literal torture. Then even eating meat wouldn't be torture.

Overall, from what the session says, Organic Portals get back to the pool of souls. And souled people are getting smashed. So speaking pragmatically, it would be better to be a simple organic portal. And if I can recognize organic portal behavior, they even awarely prefer it. Not even you don't have to be thoughtful - you have life guaranteed, and you also can have STO purposes like 'helping animals get into human incarnation' - 2D/3D transition (though I doubt it is the OP's purpose, actually. It'd be rather 'helpful', like in the gas chambers - by definition, souled people should be more humane, and they wouldn't stand so much pain - but I guess it can be both to extent - not like sould people have to be humane or OPs can't be. I just didn't want to be naive with that 2D/3D transition helpfulness, and I don't know if it was ever closely discussed before).

Of course, it's entirely speculation on my side.

Jesus didn't have the best fate either: considering the words that he is the reincarnation of Socrates, he was killed twice. And if he appeared in another incarnation, it is possible that he was killed again. Maybe that is why he spoke of 'salvation,' because he consciously experienced fifth density. And if he could speak of the cycle of reincarnations at the Cassiopeian level, these earthly fates did not have such significance for him. On the other hand, 'eternal life' would be a lie, unless reincarnation was his choice, but this fifth density is temporary for most people. So we would be talking more about an eternal cycle of life and death, where the instinctive goal is to free oneself from this cycle, treating repetition as getting stuck. But that's a matter of subjective judgment. Maybe organic portals don't mind it at all, they feel at home here.

And Jesus supposedly left for Kashmir (although some say Damascus), so he probably wasn't so indifferent to his fate. Besides, if earthly life were indifferent to him, he wouldn't have fought for it. He is presented as kind, but his personality (at least the one portrayed in the Apocrypha) was rather combative: what can you expect from a man crucified for rebellion? Even in the Bible, he probably overturns stalls at the Synagogue. He rather opposed the entire ancient culture of the Jews (I'm not talking about Moses, because he did basically the same thing when they built the golden calf - and I don't want to sound sarcastic on this one - it's best to kill the messiah, choose a barbarian and destroy the area where the messiah was born).

I had a dream today about something like 'soul smashing'. I had a VHS tape of a movie called 'Morpheus' - a Matrix spin off with the original actors. Morpheus made some mistakes, Agent Smith appeared at some point and his face turned into a white gecko with dark eyes, he had a long tongue, he somehow 'consumed' Morpheus' head, while absorbing his code representation in the matrix. So it seems to me that some part of Morpheus remained in the organic portal system, and beyond that he ceased to exist in material form. (Of course, this code fragment would reflect some inspiration and influence for organic portals - dormant in the Matrix - in the same way as inspiration for ensouled people - in the 'real world').

These were my thoughts.
 
Ryan said:
Something that I think has been overlooked in the whole '50/50 pre-adamics/adamics' discussion is that it's not really psychos+OPs+souled beings, it's psychos+OPs+unindividuated souls+individuated souls. For unindividuated souls and OPs, the balance might always be 50/50, but once a soul has individuated, the balance might depend more on polarity, consciousness and choice of association. Of course, if one of the properties of 'individuated souls' means having a fully-fused magnetic center, then there don't appear to be too many of these on the planet.
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Aren't unindividuated souls the same as OP's? Isn't it the natural progression from something like "group souls" in 2D to developing individual souls in 3D?

I think that individuated souls have the capacity to form a magnetic center, but most do not seem to be there yet. I think the 50/50 comment by the C's referred to the ratio between unindividuated souls (OPs) to individuated souls (with or without a magnetic center).

Though I think I see where you make the distinction: Do psychopaths have unindividuated souls at all? Do all OPs?
 
Professor Chaos said:
It's descriptive, so susceptible to interpretation.

For example, smashed souls are going to repeat the cycle of billions of years of lessons. Yet there are exceptions: for example, as far as I remember, Adolf Hitler was sleeping, open to reincarnate, and getting help from STO beings. Of course, I'm using a graphic example, but the session was related to torture. And tortures are very different: you can slaughter people, but you can also participate in the education system or be a TV presenter. There are different intentions and levels of impact. For example, TV is pumping stress, but it isn't your original intention. You are just told to use that specific stressful tone when talking about stressful things. It's all part of the Matrix. But I guess people higher in the hierarchy and more aware would be responsible. They could also use unaware puppets, even TV owners. Teachers can be like in 1984 or North Korea. But it is also protecting children from going to prisons. And these are also graphic examples. You can also 'torture' people hiring then and giving then normalized working schedules, which isn't indeed very developing, or 20-year loans, which they consider helpful. You can have difficult personality, and you can be intentionally mean. You can also 'wake people up with knowledge', or somehow lead them into mental confusion and suffering with it - even Buddhists say that telling someone something they are not prepared for causes karmic burden. So there are thousands of cases related to impacting others. Unless you mean literal torture. Then even eating meat wouldn't be torture.

Overall, from what the session says, Organic Portals get back to the pool of souls. And souled people are getting smashed. So speaking pragmatically, it would be better to be a simple organic portal. And if I can recognize organic portal behavior, they even awarely prefer it. Not even you don't have to be thoughtful - you have life guaranteed, and you also can have STO purposes like 'helping animals get into human incarnation' - 2D/3D transition (though I doubt it is the OP's purpose, actually. It'd be rather 'helpful', like in the gas chambers - by definition, souled people should be more humane, and they wouldn't stand so much pain - but I guess it can be both to extent - not like sould people have to be humane or OPs can't be. I just didn't want to be naive with that 2D/3D transition helpfulness, and I don't know if it was ever closely discussed before).

Of course, it's entirely speculation on my side.

Jesus didn't have the best fate either: considering the words that he is the reincarnation of Socrates, he was killed twice. And if he appeared in another incarnation, it is possible that he was killed again. Maybe that is why he spoke of 'salvation,' because he consciously experienced fifth density. And if he could speak of the cycle of reincarnations at the Cassiopeian level, these earthly fates did not have such significance for him. On the other hand, 'eternal life' would be a lie, unless reincarnation was his choice, but this fifth density is temporary for most people. So we would be talking more about an eternal cycle of life and death, where the instinctive goal is to free oneself from this cycle, treating repetition as getting stuck. But that's a matter of subjective judgment. Maybe organic portals don't mind it at all, they feel at home here.

And Jesus supposedly left for Kashmir (although some say Damascus), so he probably wasn't so indifferent to his fate. Besides, if earthly life were indifferent to him, he wouldn't have fought for it. He is presented as kind, but his personality (at least the one portrayed in the Apocrypha) was rather combative: what can you expect from a man crucified for rebellion? Even in the Bible, he probably overturns stalls at the Synagogue. He rather opposed the entire ancient culture of the Jews (I'm not talking about Moses, because he did basically the same thing when they built the golden calf - and I don't want to sound sarcastic on this one - it's best to kill the messiah, choose a barbarian and destroy the area where the messiah was born).

I had a dream today about something like 'soul smashing'. I had a VHS tape of a movie called 'Morpheus' - a Matrix spin off with the original actors. Morpheus made some mistakes, Agent Smith appeared at some point and his face turned into a white gecko with dark eyes, he had a long tongue, he somehow 'consumed' Morpheus' head, while absorbing his code representation in the matrix. So it seems to me that some part of Morpheus remained in the organic portal system, and beyond that he ceased to exist in material form. (Of course, this code fragment would reflect some inspiration and influence for organic portals - dormant in the Matrix - in the same way as inspiration for ensouled people - in the 'real world').

These were my thoughts.
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I think one needs some awareness of the fact that they are acting against their soul for there to be a smashing event. If someone kills someone and has no remorse about it, thinks it was just according to their impulses, then in my opinion this wouldn’t qualify for a soul smashing event.

I think mostly that to have your soul smashed would require some kind of internal battle against a thing that you KNOW isn’t right for you and not being able to overcome it.
 
Fluffy said:
I think one needs some awareness of the fact that they are acting against their soul for there to be a smashing event. If someone kills someone and has no remorse about it, thinks it was just according to their impulses, then in my opinion this wouldn’t qualify for a soul smashing event.

I think mostly that to have your soul smashed would require some kind of internal battle against a thing that you KNOW isn’t right for you and not being able to overcome it.
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I'm not sure if it's an upcoming event. It can be things that happen. Of course, I'm again speculating. But, for example, OPs can have morals. Psychopaths can't ever be reincarnated as people, in some cases. And they can have sense of morals implied - even as for avoiding the consequences or all the mess they make themselves go through. So pretty much everyone is under some laws. If it's all true. But is it like there's a big upcoming event? Maybe both, but I'd rather say it just happens. During Christ's time everyone was expecting it too, they were seeing it to in many of their world events. While it's maybe more of what happens here, in 3D. At the same time, there are cosmic events like 3D/4D and the wave. So idk. I'm just trying to figure it out. If we lose a battle or can't win it, it's just tough. As if we died. But should it be a 'punishment' to start all over again? I think people go through moments like that in life, but they come back to life.
 
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