Session 11 June 2011

A: Men are going to die soon

Q: (L) What men?

A: Many

Q: (L) Where?

A: Near to Bilderbergers near

Q: (L) And what are they going to die from?

A: Plot

I apologize for this objection but 3 days after the massaker in Oslo fell me state immediately from this dead types as quotes above.

These guys were on that Bilderberger Party 2011:

Myklebust, Egil, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, sk Hydro ASA

H.R.H. Crown Prince Haakon of Norway

Ottersen, Ole Petter, Rector, University of Oslo

Solberg, Erna, Leader of the Conservative Party

And this news:

Mette Marits stepbrother died for his son

I know it sounds like a new conspiracy because this particularly answer came from a not reliable person not trusted. Oslo is not far from Nederland, the first place of the Bilderbergermeeting 1954.

In another case the same state were used to the assumed attacks on 2011.06.26 called "Megaritual". In all the time I read the transkription from the C I never read something from dead guys they came through or Laura did not mention after the contact with C.

Is that coincidence or perhaps approximately also simply my thoughts with me through
 
alper said:
Hi Laura, I'm following you from Turkey for a long time, and I wish you success...
Hi alper :)
We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, how they found the cass material, and how much of the work here they have read. Thanks.
 
Welcome aboard Alper, let us know a little about yourself so we can have a better understanding in our conversations.
 
Aloha, and thanks so much for this session! I have been very delighted by various directions this discussion has gone in.

I have some other things to post about regarding this session, but I'm going to jump into this current part of the discussion about "Shekhinah", because some things are occurring to me about it. As I was searching, I kept coming across various apparent connections, but I wonder if some of them might just be some sort of distraction. :/ At any rate, I'm including what I found and putting some possibly relevant parts in bold letters. Please bear in mind that I am very new here and have only assimilated a small amount of the information presented here. I analogize myself at this point to a child who is finding some puzzle pieces on the floor and is handing them to the grown-ups who are at the table putting the puzzle together. So here's what I've got:


I read in http://web.archive.org/web/20080715145422/http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm


Q: ... where does the energy come from that recharges Organic Portals.
A: The pool you have described.
Q: Does the recharging of the souled being come from a similar pool, only maybe the "human" pool?
A: No - it recharges from the so-called sexual center which is a higher center of creative energy. During sleep, the emotional center, not being blocked by the lower intellectual center and the moving center, transduces the energy from the sexual center. It is also the time during which the higher emotional and intellectual centers can rest from the "drain" of the lower centers' interaction with those pesky organic portals so much loved by the lower centers. This respite alone is sufficient to make a difference. But, more than that, the energy of the sexual center is also more available to the other higher centers.
Q: From where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love."

I thought this might be connected to the "feminine principle" of the "presence of God" that "Shekhinah" refers to in this definition:

Quote from: wikipedia
Shekhinah (alternative transliterations Shekinah, Shechinah, Shekina, Shechina, Schechinah, שכינה) is the English spelling of a grammatically feminine Hebrew language word that means the dwelling or settling, and is used to denote the dwelling or settling presence of God (cf. divine presence), especially in the Temple in Jerusalem.

...I also thought of the idea that Laura's group would be a "conduit" during the Wave event (as mentioned in the first chapter of *The Wave*). And I wonder if the above excerpt could be indicating a kind of conduit through which souled humans get energy from this 7D feminine aspect during sleep, so maybe there's a connection there...

Also, this "dwelling or settling presence of God" could be that 7D feminine aspect where it connects via that conduit in each souled human. And that reminds me of the line from the New Testament: "You are the temple of God, and the Holy Spirit dwells within."

Another potential piece is the concept of Athena in *The Odyssey*, mentioned at the end of this current session when Ark said, "Well, without her, the suitors would win." Well, I haven't read *The Odyssey*, yet ;) but I've always enjoyed reading and had an interest in mythology when I was a kid...Here's what I've gathered about Athena, whom I'm seeing as a "feminine aspect of God" in relation to the above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena

In Greek mythology Athena or Athene[...], also referred to as Pallas Athena/Athene [...], is the goddess of wisdom, civilization, warfare, strength, strategy, female arts, crafts, justice and skill. Minerva, Athena's Roman incarnation, embodies similar attributes.[4] Athena is also a shrewd companion of heroes and the goddess of heroic endeavour. She is the virgin patron of Athens. The Athenians built the Parthenon on the Acropolis of her namesake city, Athens, in her honour (Athena Parthenos).[4]

Athena as the goddess of philosophy became an aspect of the cult in Classical Greece during the late 5th century BC.[8] She was the patroness of various crafts, especially weaving, as Athena Ergane; the metalwork of weapons also fell under her patronage. She led battles (Athena Promachos or the warrior maiden Athena Parthenos)[9] as the disciplined, strategic side of war, in contrast to her brother Ares, the patron of violence, bloodlust and slaughter — "the raw force of war".[10] Athena's wisdom includes the cunning intelligence (metis) of such figures as Odysseus. Not only was this version of Athena the opposite of Ares in combat, it was also the polar opposite of the serene earth goddess version of the deity, Athena Polias.[9]

Athena appears in Greek mythology as the patron and helper of many heroes, including Odysseus, Jason, and Heracles. In Classical Greek myths, she never consorts with a lover, nor does she ever marry,[11] earning the title Athena Parthenos. [...] Though Athena was a goddess of war strategy, she disliked fighting without purpose and preferred to use wisdom to settle predicaments.[13] The goddess only encouraged fighting for a reasonable cause or to resolve conflict. As patron of Athens she fought in the Trojan war on the side of the Achaeans.

In The Greek Myths (8.a, ff.), Robert Graves narrates early myths about the birth of Athena, "coming to Greece by way of Crete".[14] Hesiod (c. 700 BC) relates that Athena was a parthenogenous daughter of Metis, wisdom or knowledge, a Titan. Other variants relate that, although Metis was of an earlier generation of the Titans, Zeus became her consort when his cult gained dominance. In order to avoid a prophecy made when that change occurred, that any offspring of his union with Metis would be greater than he, Zeus swallowed Metis to prevent her from having offspring, but she already was pregnant with Athena. Metis gave birth to Athena and nurtured her inside Zeus until Zeus complained of headaches and called for Hephaestus to split open his head with his smithing tools. Athena burst forth from his forehead fully armed and grown with weapons given by her mother. She famously wields the thunderbolt and the Aegis, which she and Zeus share exclusively.

Plato, in Cratylus (407B) gave the etymology of her name as signifying "the mind of god", theou noesis. The Christian apologist of the 2nd century Justin Martyr takes issue with those pagans who erect at springs images of Kore, whom he interprets as Athena:

"They said that Athena was the daughter of Zeus not from intercourse, but when the god had in mind the making of a world through a word (logos) his first thought was Athena"
[15]

John Milton's Paradise Lost interprets this myth as a model for the birth of Sin from the head of Satan.[16]

[...]

In one version of the Tiresias myth, Tiresias stumbled upon Athena bathing, and he was struck blind by her to ensure he would never again see what man was not intended to see. But having lost his eyesight, he was given a special gift - to be able to understand the language of the birds (and thus to foretell the future).


...which might be related to this:

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=366

Green Language

[...]

From Zelator:

'Almost all esoteric systems have developed one form or other of what is called 'The Language of the Birds', or the 'Green Language', as a means of communication.' This is an arcane tongue which permits initiates, and those on the Path, to com- municate secrets to one another in a form which is incomprehensible to those not versed in the language. […]'

Further along:

Later myths of the Classical Greeks relate that Athena guided Perseus in his quest to behead Medusa. She instructed Heracles to skin the Nemean Lion by using its own claws to cut through its thick hide. She also helped Heracles to defeat the Stymphalian Birds, and to navigate the underworld so as to capture Cerberus.
In The Odyssey, Odysseus' cunning and shrewd nature quickly won Athena's favour. In the realistic epic mode, however, she largely is confined to aiding him only from afar, as by implanting thoughts in his head during his journey home from Troy. Her guiding actions reinforce her role as the "protectress of heroes" or as mythologian Walter Friedrich Otto dubbed her the "goddess of nearness" due to her mentoring and motherly probing.[35] It is not until he washes up on the shore of an island where Nausicaa is washing her clothes that Athena arrives personally to provide more tangible assistance. She appears in Nausicaa's dreams to ensure that the princess rescues Odysseus and plays a role in his eventual escort to Ithaca.

Athena appears in disguise to Odysseus upon his arrival, initially lying and telling him that Penelope, his wife, has remarried and that he is believed to be dead; but Odysseus lies back to her, employing skillful prevarications to protect himself.[36] Impressed by his resolve and shrewdness, she reveals herself and tells him what he needs to know in order to win back his kingdom. She disguises him as an elderly man or beggar so that he cannot be noticed by the suitors or Penelope, and helps him to defeat the suitors.

[...]

Athena's epithets include Άτρυτώνη, Atrytone (= the unwearying), Παρθένος, Parthénos (= virgin), and Ή Πρόμαχος, Promachos (the First Fighter, i. e. she who fights in front). In poetry from Homer, an oral tradition of the eighth or 7th century BC, onward, Athena's most common epithet is glaukopis (γλαυκώπις), which usually is translated as, bright-eyed or with gleaming eyes.[38] The word is a combination of glaukos (γλαύκος, meaning gleaming, silvery, and later, bluish-green or gray) and ops (ώψ, eye, or sometimes, face). It is interesting to note that glaux (γλαύξ, "owl") is from the same root, presumably because of the bird's own distinctive eyes. The bird which sees well in the night is closely associated with the goddess of wisdom: in archaic images, Athena is frequently depicted with an owl perched on her head. This pairing evolved in tangent so that even in present day the owl is upheld as a symbol of perspicacity and erudition.[4]

Reminds me of:

4 October 1997

Q: I have a few questions on the subject of Cassiopaea. On
several occasions you have described Cassiopaea or the
Cassiopaeans, the unified thought form light beings that
transmit through Cassiopaea, as being the 'front line of
the universe's system of natural balance.'
On another
occasion when Roxanne was here, she was asking questions
about Isis and you said that Isis was a 'vanguard.' Now,
it seems to me that something that is at the front line is
also a vanguard
- that the definitions are
interchangeable, or similar.

And then further along:

J.J. Bachofen advocated that Athena was originally a maternal figure stable in her security and poise but was caught up and perverted by a patriarchal society; this was especially the case in Athens. The goddess adapted but could very easily be seen as a god. He viewed it as "motherless paternity in the place of fatherless maternity" where once altered, Athena's character was to be crystallized as that of a patriarch.[66]

Whereas Bachofen saw the switch to paternity on Athena's behalf as an increase of power, Freud on the contrary perceived Athena as an "original mother goddess divested of her power". In this interpretation, Athena was demoted to be only Zeus's daughter, never allowed the expression of motherhood. Still more different from Bachofen's perspective is the lack of role permanency in Freud's view: Freud held that time and differing cultures would mold Athena to stand for what was necessary to them.[67]

..which reflects the loss of the Goddess (7D feminine aspect?) in our history...

And more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa

In a late version of the Medusa myth, related by the Roman poet Ovid (Metamorphoses 4.770), Medusa was originally a ravishingly beautiful maiden, "the jealous aspiration of many suitors," priestess in Athena's temple, but when the "Lord of the Sea" Poseidon raped her in Athena's temple, the enraged Athena transformed Medusa's beautiful hair to serpents and made her face so terrible to behold that the mere sight of it would turn onlookers to stone. In Ovid's telling, Perseus describes Medusa's punishment as a victim by Minerva (Athena) as just and well-deserved.

In most versions of the story, she was beheaded by the hero Perseus, who was sent to fetch her head by King Polydectes of Seriphos as a gift. With help from Athena and Hermes who supplied him with winged sandals, Hades' cap of invisibility, a sword, and a mirrored shield, he accomplished his quest. The hero slew Medusa by looking at her harmless reflection in the mirror instead of directly at her, to prevent being turned into stone. [...] ...he gave the Gorgon's head to Athena, who placed it on her shield, the Aegis

...Hermes is also the Roman god Mercury (which could be a reference to alchemy), and considered to be the "messenger of the gods".

...Medusa has sometimes appeared as representing notions of scientific determinism and nihilism, especially in contrast with romantic idealism.[8][16] In this interpretation of Medusa, attempts to avoid looking into her eyes represent avoiding the ostensibly depressing reality that the universe is meaningless. Jack London uses Medusa in this way in his novel The Mutiny of the Elsinore:[17]

I cannot help remembering a remark of De Casseres. It was over the wine in Mouquin's. Said he: "The profoundest instinct in man is to war against the truth; that is, against the Real. He shuns facts from his infancy. His life is a perpetual evasion. Miracle, chimera and to-morrow keep him alive. He lives on fiction and myth. It is the Lie that makes him free. Animals alone are given the privilege of lifting the veil of Isis; men dare not. The animal, awake, has no fictional escape from the Real because he has no imagination. Man, awake, is compelled to seek a perpetual escape into Hope, Belief, Fable, Art, God, Socialism, Immortality, Alcohol, Love. From Medusa-Truth he makes an appeal to Maya-Lie."
—Jack London, The Mutiny of the Elsinore

[...]

In Odyssey xi, Homer does not specifically mention the Gorgon Medusa:
"Lest for my daring Persephone the dread,
From Hades should send up an awful monster's grisly head."

which connects with this:

A: And who was "Kore?"
Q: (L) Was this Abraham's daughter?
A: It was the last living member of the Perseid family.
Q: (L) Was it a male or female?
A: Female.

...and this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone

In Greek mythology, Persephone (/pərˈsɛfəniː/) in modern English—also called Kore)[1] is the daughter of Zeus and the harvest goddess Demeter, and queen of the underworld; she was abducted by her uncle, Hades the king of the underworld.[2][3]

The myth of her abduction represents her function as the personification of vegetation which shoots forth in spring and withdraws into the earth after harvest; hence she is also associated with spring and with the seeds of the fruits of the fields. Persephone as a vegetation goddess (Kore) and her mother Demeter were the central figures of the Eleusinian mysteries that predated the Olympian pantheon. In the Linear B (Mycenean Greek) tablets dated 1400-1200 BC found at Pylos, the "two mistresses and the king" are mentioned; John Chadwick identifies these as Demeter, Persephone and Poseidon.[4]

[...]

Her abduction is first mentioned in Hesiod's, Theogony. In the Homeric Hymn to Demeter a great chasm opened up and Hades abducted her daughter. Demeter caused a terrible drought that forced Zeus to bring Persephone back, but she was obliged to spend half of the year in the underworld.[5] Demeter was also united with the hero Iasion in Crete and she bore Ploutos (πλούτος,plutos:wealth)[2] who represents the wealth of the corn that was stored in underground silos or ceramic jars (pithoi). Similar subterranean pithoi were used in ancient times for burials and Ploutos is fused with Hades, the King of the realm of the dead. During summer months, the Greek Corn-Maiden (Kore) is lying in the corn of the underground silos, in the realm of Hades and she is fused with Persephone, the Queen of the underworld. At the beginning of the autumn, when the seeds of the old crop are laid on the fields, she ascends and is reunited with her mother Demeter, for at that time the old crop and the new meet each other. For the initiated this union was the symbol of the eternity of human life that flows from the generations which spring from each other.[6]

Hesiod refers to the island of the "happy dead"[7] and it is the Elysion[8] which seems to be counterpart with Eleusis, the city of the Eleusinian mysteries. The Greeks believed that only the beloved of the gods could exist there.[9] In Odyssey Homer carries the old belief to the ideal island for mortals Scheria, the imaginary perfect world that was offered to the future emigrants. This island became the lost dream of the Greek world.[10]

The primitive myths of isolated Arcadia seem to be related with the first Greek-speaking people who came from the north during the bronze age. Despoina (Persephone) is the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon Hippios (horse), who represents the river spirit of the underworld that appears as a horse as often happens in northern-European folklore. He pursues the mare-Demeter and from the union she bears the horse Arion and a daughter who originally had the form or the shape of a mare. The two goddesses were not clearly separated and they were closely connected with the springs and the animals. They were related with the god of rivers and springs; Poseidon and especially with Artemis, the Mistress of the Animals who was the first nymph.[3] According to the Greek tradition a hunt-goddess preceded the harvest goddess.[11]

[...]

In a Linear B (Mycenean Greek) inscription on a tablet found at Pylos dated 1400-1200 BC, John Chadwick reconstructs the name of a goddess *Preswa who could be identified with Persa, daughter of Oceanus and finds speculative the further identification with the first element of Persephone.[12] Persephonē (Greek: Περσεφόνη) is her name in the Ionic Greek of epic literature. The Homeric form of her name is Persephoneia (Περσεφονεία,[13] Persephonēia). In other dialects she was known under variant names: Persephassa (Περσεφάσσα), Persephatta (Περσεφάττα), or simply Korē (Κόρη, "girl, maiden").[14] Plato calls her Pherepapha (Φερέπαφα) in his Cratylus, "because she is wise and touches that which is in motion". There also the forms Perifona (Πηριφόνα) and Phersephassa (Φερσέφασσα). The existence of so many different forms shows how difficult it was for the Greeks to pronounce the word in their own language and suggests that the name has probably a pre-Greek origin.[15]

There is some prospect that the name reached Greek from the Proto-Indo-European language. In that regard it can be derived from "φέρειν φόνον", pherein phonon, "to bring (or cause) death".[16]

[...]

The story of her abduction is traditionally referred to as the Rape of Persephone. The myth is absent in Homer and first appears in Hesiod's Theogony:[16] "Also he [Zeus] came to the bed of all-nourishing Demeter, and she bore white-armed Persephone whom Aidoneus (Hades) carried off from her mother; but wise Zeus gave her to him."[2] Unlike every other offspring of an Olympian pairing of deities, Persephone has no stable position at Olympus. Persephone used to live far away from the other deities, a goddess within Nature herself before the days of planting seeds and nurturing plants. In the Olympian telling,[28] the gods Hermes, Ares, Apollo, and Hephaestus, had all wooed Persephone; but Demeter rejected all their gifts and hid her daughter away from the company of the Olympian deities.

Thus, beautiful Persephone lived a peaceful life until Hades, the Lord of the Underworld, fell in love with her. It is said that Zeus advised him to carry her off, as her mother Demeter was not likely to allow. She was innocently picking flowers with some nymphs—Athena, and Artemis, the Homeric hymn says—or Leucippe, or Oceanids—in a field when Hades came to abduct her, bursting through a cleft in the earth.

...the "Rape of Persephone" reminds me of the story above about Medusa being raped by Poseidan...And there is the theme of the "suitors" again. And, fwiw, the names Persephone and Penelope seem rather similar...

And then, in another connection to vegetation (2D, agriculture?). there's this:

Demeter searched desperately with torches for her lost daughter all over the world. In some versions she forbids the earth to produce, or she neglects the earth and in the depth of her despair she causes nothing to grow.[...] Finally, Zeus, pressed by the cries of the hungry people and by the other deities who also heard their anguish, forced Hades to return Persephone. However, it was a rule of the Fates that whoever consumed food or drink in the Underworld was doomed to spend eternity there. Before Persephone was released to Hermes, who had been sent to retrieve her, Hades tricked her into eating pomegranate seeds, (four or six according to the telling) which forced her to return to the underworld for a period each year. The seeds correspond to the dry summer months in Greece, usually one third of the year (four months) when Persephone (Kore) is absent. In some versions, Ascalaphus informed the other deities that Persephone had eaten the pomegranate seeds. When Demeter and her daughter were reunited, the Earth flourished with vegetation and color, but for some months each year, when Persephone returned to the underworld, the earth once again became a barren realm. This is an origin story to explain the seasons.

[...]

In the mystical theories of the Orphics and the Platonists, Kore is described as the all-pervading goddess of nature [30] who both produces and destroys everything and she is therefore mentioned along or identified with other mystic divinities such as Isis, Rhea, Ge, Hestia, Pandora, Artemis, and Hecate.[31]



Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore

Kore may refer to:
the Greek goddess Persephone
Kore (moon), a natural satellite of Jupiter named after her
[...]


And, fwiw, I happened upon this:

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=702&lsel=S

Soul

Usually this means whatever part of a person is permanent and survives physical death. Allegorically, this can also mean the core essence of something. In religious, spiritual and esoteric discourse, this word is used in a bewildering confusion of meanings.


And since Andromeda was "grooving" this session, I checked that name, too. Of course, in mythology, she is the daughter of Queen Cassiopeia...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(mythology)

...The traditional etymology of the name is "she who has bravery in her mind"

[...]

In Greek mythology, Andromeda was the daughter of Cepheus and Cassiopeia, king and queen of the kingdom Ethiopia. Her mother Cassiopeia boasted that she was more beautiful than the Nereids, the nymph-daughters of the sea god Nereus and often seen accompanying Poseidon. To punish the Queen for her arrogance, Poseidon, brother to Zeus and god of the sea, sent a sea monster named Cetus to ravage the coast of Ethiopia including the kingdom of the vain Queen. The desperate King consulted the Oracle of Apollo, who announced that no respite would be found until the king sacrificed his virgin daughter Andromeda to the monster. She was chained naked to a rock on the coast.

Perseus was returning from having slain the Gorgon Medusa, he found Andromeda and slew Cetus by approaching invisible with Hades's helm and slaying him. He set her free, and married her in spite of Andromeda having been previously promised to her uncle Phineus. At the wedding a quarrel took place between the rivals, and Phineus was turned to stone by the sight of the Gorgon's head (Ovid, Metamorphoses v. 1).

Andromeda followed her husband to Tiryns in Argos, and together they became the ancestors of the family of the Perseidae through the line of their son Perses. Perseus and Andromeda had seven sons: Perseides, Perses, Alcaeus, Heleus, Mestor, Sthenelus, and Electryon, and two daughters, Autochthoe and Gorgophone. Their descendants ruled Mycenae from Electryon down to Eurystheus, after whom Atreus attained the kingdom, and would also include the great hero Heracles. According to this mythology, Perseus is the ancestor of the Persians.

After her death, Andromeda was placed by Athena amongst the constellations in the northern sky, near Perseus and Cassiopeia. The constellation had been named after her.

...So there's a connection with Athena again. I was hoping to find Kore/Persephone at the end of this Perseidae lineage, but I don't see it here...

Then there's also this:

The 1981 film Clash of the Titans retells the story of Perseus, Andromeda, and Cassiopeia, but makes a few changes (notably Cassiopeia boasts that her daughter is more beautiful than Thetis as opposed to the Nereids as a group). Thetis was a Nereid, but also the future mother of Achilles. Andromeda and Perseus meet and fall in love after he saves her soul from the enslavement of Thetis' hideous son, Calibos, whereas in the myth, they simply meet as Perseus returns home from having slain Medusa. In the film, the monster is called a Kraken, although it is depicted as a lizardlike creature rather than a squid; and combining two elements of the myth, Perseus defeats the sea monster by showing it Medusa's face, turning the monster into stone. Andromeda is depicted as being strong-willed and independent, whereas in the stories she is only really mentioned as being the princess whom Perseus saves from the sea monster.

(I loved that movie when I was a kid, btw.)

And about Queen Cassiopeia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassiopeia_(mythology)

Her name in Greek is Κασσιόπη, which means "she whose words excel".

...Since my being impressed with Laura's writing (at Sott) is what led me here, I thought that was an apt description of her :)

And then we have another telling of the myth:

The boast of Cassiopeia was that both she and her daughter Andromeda were more beautiful than all the Nereids, the nymph-daughters of the sea god Nereus. This brought the wrath of Poseidon, ruling god of the sea, upon the kingdom of Ethiopia.

Accounts differ as to whether Poseidon decided to flood the whole country or direct the sea monster Cetus to destroy it. In either case, trying to save their kingdom, Cepheus and Cassiopeia consulted a wise oracle, who told them that the only way to appease the sea gods was to sacrifice their daughter.

Accordingly, Andromeda was chained to a rock at the sea's edge and left there to helplessly await her fate at the hands of Cetus. But the hero Perseus arrived in time, saved Andromeda, and ultimately became her husband.

Since Poseidon thought that Cassiopeia should not escape punishment, he placed her in the heavens tied to a chair in such a position that, as she circles the celestial pole in her throne, she is upside-down half the time. The constellation resembles the chair that originally represented an instrument of torture. Cassiopeia is not always represented tied to the chair in torment, in some later drawings she is holding a mirror, symbol of her vanity, while in others she holds a palm leaf, a symbolism that is not clear.[1]

As it is near the pole star, the constellation Cassiopeia can be seen the whole year from the northern hemisphere, although sometimes upside down.

And then there's Perseus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseus

Perseus was the son of Zeus and Danaë, who by her very name, was the archetype of all the Danaans.[4] She was the only child of Acrisius, King of Argos. Disappointed by his lack of luck in having a son, Acrisius consulted the oracle at Delphi, who warned him that he would one day be killed by his daughter's son. Danaë was childless and to keep her so, he imprisoned her in a bronze chamber open to the sky in the courtyard of his palace:[5] This mytheme is also connected to Ares, Oenopion, Eurystheus, etc. Zeus came to her in the form of a shower of gold, and impregnated her.[6] Soon after, their child was born; Perseus — "Perseus Eurymedon,[7] for his mother gave him this name as well" (Apollonius of Rhodes, Argonautica IV).

Fearful for his future but unwilling to provoke the wrath of the gods by killing Zeus's offspring and his own daughter, Acrisius cast the two into the sea in a wooden chest.[8] Danaë's fearful prayer made while afloat in the darkness has been expressed by the poet Simonides of Ceos. Mother and child washed ashore on the island of Seriphos, where they were taken in by the fisherman Dictys ("fishing net"), who raised the boy to manhood. The brother of Dictys was Polydectes ("he who receives/welcomes many"), the king of the island.[...] The name of Polydectes, "receiver of many", characterizes his role as intended host but is also a euphemism for the Lord of the Underworld, as in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter 9, 17.

...I can see here some biblical connections: the "virgin birth" relating to Jesus, the being set adrift as a child relating to Moses, and the fisherman and net...

And here it says:

Ovid's anecdotal embroidery of Medusa's mortality tells that she had once been a woman, vain of her beautiful hair, who had lain with Poseidon in the Temple of Athena.[10] In punishment for the desecration of her temple, Athena had changed Medusa's hair into hideous snakes "that she may alarm her surprised foes with terror".[11]

...So that sounds different from the rape account in that other entry...And it goes on:

Athena instructed Perseus to find the Hesperides, who were entrusted with weapons needed to defeat the Gorgon. Following Athena's guidance,[12] Perseus sought out the Graeae, sisters of the Gorgons, to demand the whereabouts of the Hesperides, the nymphs tending Hera's orchard. The Graeae were three perpetually old women, who had to share a single eye. As the women passed the eye from one to another, Perseus snatched it from them, holding it for ransom in return for the location of the nymphs.[13] When the sisters led him to the Hesperides, he returned what he had taken.

From the Hesperides he received a knapsack (kibisis) to safely contain Medusa's head. Zeus gave him an adamantine sword and Hades' helm of darkness to hide. Hermes lent Perseus winged sandals to fly, while Athena gave him a polished shield. Perseus then proceeded to the Gorgons' cave.

In the cave he came upon the sleeping Stheno, Euryale and Medusa. By viewing Medusa's reflection in his polished shield, he safely approached and cut off her head. From her neck sprang Pegasus ("he who sprang") and Chrysaor ("bow of gold"), the result of Poseidon and Medusa's meeting. The other two Gorgons pursued Perseus,[14] but, wearing his helm of darkness, he escaped.

On the way back to Seriphos Island, Perseus stopped in the kingdom of Ethiopia. This mythical Ethiopia was ruled by King Cepheus and Queen Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia, having boasted herself equal in beauty to the Nereids, drew down the vengeance of Poseidon, who sent an inundation on the land and a sea serpent, Cetus, which destroyed man and beast. The oracle of Ammon announced that no relief would be found until the king exposed his daughter Andromeda to the monster, and so she was fastened to a rock on the shore. Perseus slew the monster and, setting her free, claimed her in marriage.

In the classical myth, he flew using the flying sandals. Renaissance Europe and modern imagery has generated the idea that Perseus flew mounted on Pegasus (though not in the paintings by Piero di Cosimo and Titian).[note 3]

Perseus married Andromeda in spite of Phineus, to whom she had before been promised. At the wedding a quarrel took place between the rivals, and Phineus was turned to stone by the sight of Medusa's head that Perseus had kept.[15] Andromeda ("queen of men") followed her husband to Tiryns in Argos, and became the ancestress of the family of the Perseidae who ruled at Tiryns through her son with Perseus, Perses.[16] After her death she was placed by Athena amongst the constellations in the northern sky, near Perseus and Cassiopeia.[note 4] Sophocles and Euripides (and in more modern times Pierre Corneille) made the episode of Perseus and Andromeda the subject of tragedies, and its incidents were represented in many ancient works of art.

As Perseus was flying in his return above the sands of Libya, according to Apollonius of Rhodes,[17] the falling drops of Medusa's blood created a race of toxic serpents, one of whom was to kill the Argonaut Mopsus. On returning to Seriphos and discovering that his mother had to take refuge from the violent advances of Polydectes, Perseus killed him with Medusa's head, and made his brother Dictys, consort of Danaë, king.

...I noticed these connections to reptilians, and also noted the mention of Libya which reminded me of current events...


Anyway, I suppose one way it could be said is:

Perseus, who is "for Zeus/God", uses the shield which is connected (conduit of power?) to Athena who is the feminine aspect of God, defeats the reptilian Medusa and then defeats the sea monster (reptilian?) thereby saving Andromeda, and later defeats King Polydectes ("Lord of the Underworld") thereby saving his mother who was impregnated by Zeus/God.


Wow, it's amazing how much knowledge is out there! And since this is all from the Greek, I can't resist saying, "It's Greek to me!" :lol: Yes, "learning is fun!"


Thanks for letting this "kid" play with the puzzle pieces :)

-- Renee
 
I would like to think of something profound to say, this being the first post I've made. I come up with nil. Just like to say; I'm glad to be able to converse with you guys.
 
Hi DGF, Welcome to the Forum...don't forget to post a little info about yourself so we know a little about you.
 
Thanks Reborn, that was terrific! A lot to think about and to "awaken dormant circuits" in the symbol reading system!
 
Thanks here too, reborn. Fun and at the same time stimulating to read, and a lot to ponder. I especially wonder about Medusa--who was she really?!
 
Aloha, All, and thank YOU!

I actually wasn't sure how this first big post of mine would be received, and I must say I am quite relieved by your clear appreciation. While I was having fun compiling this, I had some doubts, wondering if this stuff that interested me so much when I was a kid could actually be useful now and if this was a good use of my time, but I sensed there was some significance to it and that encouraged me to continue. I figured that, at the very least, I would probably learn something ;)


Palinurus said:
Should be added to the Odyssey thread as well.

That'd be great if it could be useful there as well. I haven't read *The Odyssey* or the related thread yet. Would my entire post be appropriate/relevant over there, or should I just excerpt the parts directly related to *The Odyssey* and Athena?


SolarMother said:
I especially wonder about Medusa--who was she really?!

Yes, it's interesting. In the wikipedia excerpt it says, "Medusa was originally a ravishingly beautiful maiden, 'the jealous aspiration of many suitors,' priestess in Athena's temple...". Then she so offended Athena that Athena turned her into this monster. She was a priestess who "allowed" this sexual energy to be expressed in Athena's temple, so maybe she was on too low a level spiritually to be worthy of being a priestess, and maybe also Athena wanted to "make an example" of her, maybe to teach a lesson...Another thing there is that idea again of the 7D feminine presence (Athena) in a *temple*...And maybe there is some connection between this, from http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=96&lsel=A

Alchemy involves the process [...] all of which makes it possible for them to serve as an energy transducer for the unhindered flow of the creative force into the existing world.

...and this, again, from http://web.archive.org/web/20080715145422/http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

Q: ... where does the energy come from that recharges Organic Portals.
A: The pool you have described.
Q: Does the recharging of the souled being come from a similar pool, only maybe the "human" pool?
A: No - it recharges from the so-called sexual center which is a higher center of creative energy. During sleep, the emotional center, not being blocked by the lower intellectual center and the moving center, transduces the energy from the sexual center. It is also the time during which the higher emotional and intellectual centers can rest from the "drain" of the lower centers' interaction with those pesky organic portals so much loved by the lower centers. This respite alone is sufficient to make a difference. But, more than that, the energy of the sexual center is also more available to the other higher centers.
Q: From where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love."

Also, I thought it might be significant that Medusa's "power" was to turn creatures and men (2D and 3D) into stone (1D). Maybe this could be referring to alchemy, albeit in the oppostite of the usually intended direction of that (and, presumably, opposite of Medusa's intended direction in becoming a priestess...) ;D Maybe...hmmm...just a thought: perhaps she was an OP who was engineered to cause certain individuals to revert to 1D for some reason...And then there are the snakes (lizzies?) on (in?) her head...And *then*, Athena ends up putting Medusa's head on her shield, the Aegis...Hmmm...anyway, I'm having fun playing with the puzzle pieces :D


Thank you all again for the warm welcome :D I look forward to our continued interaction.

Delightedly,
Renee
 
Thank you Reborn you make have good time reading

SolarMother said:
I especially wonder about Medusa--who was she really?!

Yes, it's interesting. In the wikipedia excerpt it says, "Medusa was originally a ravishingly beautiful maiden, 'the jealous aspiration of many suitors,' priestess in Athena's temple...". Then she so offended Athena that Athena turned her into this monster. She was a priestess who "allowed" this sexual energy to be expressed in Athena's temple, so maybe she was on too low a level spiritually to be worthy of being a priestess, and maybe also Athena wanted to "make an example" of her, maybe to teach a lesson...Another thing there is that idea again of the 7D feminine presence (Athena) in a *temple*...And maybe there is some connection between this, from http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=96&lsel=A

I am making some connections here and I want to play a bit also although I have not read yet Odyssey ;) . If Medusa evokes jealous, and allow to express sexual energy in the Athena's temple (the head/brain of zeus) and the imagery of snakes in her head, all this brings me to this:

November 26, 1994

Q: (L) Was this story of Cain and Abel part of that takeover?
A: Symbolism of story.
Q: (L) This was symbolic of the Lizzie takeover, the advent of
jealousy,
and the attitude of brother against brother, is that correct?
A: Partly. The mark of Cain means the "jealousy factor" of change
facilitated by Lizard takeover of earth's vibrational frequency. Knot
on spine is physical residue of DNA restriction deliberately added by
Lizards. See
?
Q: (L) Okay, J** is going to move her hand up my back and you tell
her when to stop at the "knot".
A: Okay.
Q: (L) You mean the occipital ridge?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was the configuration of the spine and skull prior to this
addition?
A: Spine had no ridge there. Jealousy emanates from there, you can
even feel it
.
Q: (L) Do any of these emotions that we have talked about that were
generated by DNA breakdown, were any of these related to what
Carl Sagan discusses when he talks about the "Reptilian Brain"?
A: In a roundabout way.
Q: (L) Okay, at the time this "Mark of Cain" came about, were there
other humans on the planet that did not have this configuration?
A: It was added to all simultaneously.
Q: (L) How did they physically go about performing this act? What
was the mechanism of this event, the nuts and bolts of it?
A: Are you ready? DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme relating
to carbon. Light waves were used to cancel the first ten factors of
DNA by burning them off
. At that point, a number of physical
changes took place including knot at top of spine. Each of these is
equally reflected in the ethereal.
Q: (L) Is that all?
A: No. But, do you need more?
Q: (L) Well, the question I do have is, how many people were there
on the planet and did they have to take each one and do this
individually?
A: Whoa.
Q: (L) How many people?
A: 6 billion.
Q: (T) That's 500 million more than there are now.
A: No, 200 million.
Q: (L) Okay, there were this many people on the planet, how did
they effect this change on all of them?
A: Light wave alteration.
Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?
941126
A: Yes.
Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?
A: Our center.
Q: (L) What is your center?
A: Our realm. STO.

Q: (L) So, how did the Lizzies use the light from the Service to
Others realm...
A: They used sophisticated technology to interrupt light frequency
waves.
Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of this that you are saying from
what you are not saying is that it was almost like,... well, was there a
battle and you guys lost?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this the same battle that the Pleiadeans talk about?
A: Yes.



I dare to say that Medusa is the reptilian brain, the predator mind, which we need to neutralize or "to cut it" in order to advance and be the temple of good (Shekhinah), this reptilian brain have a male character and in order to neutralize we need a feminine energy that can come from the sexual center (7Th density). I can avoid think in the Polivagal theory, and the importance of stimulate this nerve that keeps to balance the reptilian brain and the cortex.



Ovid's anecdotal embroidery of Medusa's mortality tells that she had once been a woman, vain of her beautiful hair, who had lain with Poseidon in the Temple of Athena.[10] In punishment for the desecration of her temple, Athena had changed Medusa's hair into hideous snakes "that she may alarm her surprised foes with terror".[11]

Athena seems to me represent the SAO center in her role of energy that don't discriminate. Athena changed the beautiful Medusa and endowed her with a "reptilian head" due to her interaction with Poseidon (a masculine dominating energy) in analogy with the humans being changed by the lizards by our interaction with them. This attribute of Athena fits with the idea : "Though Athena was a goddess of war strategy, she disliked fighting without purpose and preferred to use wisdom to settle predicaments". and
In The Odyssey, Odysseus' cunning and shrewd nature quickly won Athena's favour. In the realistic epic mode, however, she largely is confined to aiding him only from afar, as by implanting thoughts in his head during his journey home from Troy. Her guiding actions reinforce her role as the "protectress of heroes"

Alchemy involves the process [...] all of which makes it possible for them to serve as an energy transducer for the unhindered flow of the creative force into the existing world.
Also, I thought it might be significant that Medusa's "power" was to turn creatures and men (2D and 3D) into stone (1D). Maybe this could be referring to alchemy, albeit in the opposite of the usually intended direction of that (and, presumably, opposite of Medusa's intended direction in becoming a priestess...) ;D Maybe...hmmm...just a thought: perhaps she was an OP who was engineered to cause certain individuals to revert to 1D for some reason...And then there are the snakes (lizzies?) on (in?) her head...And *then*, Athena ends up putting Medusa's head on her shield, the Aegis...Hmmm...anyway, I'm having fun playing with the puzzle pieces :D

The Medusa power seems to be the reptilian power, and in fact lizards are master of genetics!!

I felt so many connections in my mind that can't describe in words!!! waooo ;D
 
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