Session 11 June 2011
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Richs
The Cosmic Force
Hi Cavio,
Although there have been other replies to your statement I would add this:
The "ideas" you speak of are the result of quite a bit of research and analysis of same to come to the current conclusions regarding diet and it's effects upon the body. Whether the body is "interested" in this research is irrelevant to the effects diet has upon it.
An interesting little anecdote: A fellow decided to try to eat only at McDonalds for a month to see what effect it would have upon him. After only 3 weeks he was forced to quit this simple experiment because his health had deteriorated to such an extent that he was becoming seriously ill. Perhaps this experiment was not really 'scientific', but was fairly revealing.
However, there is a vast amount of real scientific research into the effects of diet, and these results can not be denied.
I welcome you too.
Disagreement is certainly allowed here, but... any disagreement must be backed up with real and verifiable data and not just because someone 'feels' that this is the way things are, or should be. If you have any data to back up what you say, please present it to us.
Otherwise, any claims not backed up by data are considered 'belief systems', and we do not do 'belief' here!
sevensama
Padawan Learner
Thank you so much for this session, Laura & Team!
very insightful - I had a discussion about this topic with a friend last week - he mentioned to me a gang whose members use violence towards humans, yet at the same time are all vegetarians and supporters of animal rights - rather vague without an actual reference, yet this conversation with him reminded me of Volkert van der Graaf - well known in my home country for murdering the politician Pim Fortuyn, but lesser known to be a vegan and also, an animal rights activist. I didn't quite understand how animal lovers and violence towards humans could go hand-in-hand before...
very insightful - I had a discussion about this topic with a friend last week - he mentioned to me a gang whose members use violence towards humans, yet at the same time are all vegetarians and supporters of animal rights - rather vague without an actual reference, yet this conversation with him reminded me of Volkert van der Graaf - well known in my home country for murdering the politician Pim Fortuyn, but lesser known to be a vegan and also, an animal rights activist. I didn't quite understand how animal lovers and violence towards humans could go hand-in-hand before...
weasel3d
Jedi
Yeah!!! What an interesting session! It's sort of redundant to say that there's so much to think about, since that's usually the case.
I haven't read everyone's comments, yet.
But, I was wondering what the wisdom is for eating meat and vegetables that are not organic---or animals that eat vegetables that are not organic, or worse, genetically modified feed. They obviously wouldn't be efficient energy providers---I assume would be the answer.
Also, you guys are in France, where there still seems to be a consciousness for not screwing up the food (though some are currently working on it)...
But, GM plants are a problem here in the states---and getting worse, not better. From what I understand, a lot of the animal feeds that are given to animals (those that are going to be for consumption), have GM corn, soy, etc. In fact, most of the corn and soy in the US is genetically modified (veggies watch out for your precious tofu which is often made of GM soy). So my point, if you're going to eat meats, I would think that you'd probably want to eat free grazing, organically brought up animals. Do you guys agree?
I would have like to hear that from the Cs, but I'm assuming it comes under the subject of eat what's most efficient for bringing energy to your body, which they have stated.
I haven't read everyone's comments, yet.
But, I was wondering what the wisdom is for eating meat and vegetables that are not organic---or animals that eat vegetables that are not organic, or worse, genetically modified feed. They obviously wouldn't be efficient energy providers---I assume would be the answer.
Also, you guys are in France, where there still seems to be a consciousness for not screwing up the food (though some are currently working on it)...
But, GM plants are a problem here in the states---and getting worse, not better. From what I understand, a lot of the animal feeds that are given to animals (those that are going to be for consumption), have GM corn, soy, etc. In fact, most of the corn and soy in the US is genetically modified (veggies watch out for your precious tofu which is often made of GM soy). So my point, if you're going to eat meats, I would think that you'd probably want to eat free grazing, organically brought up animals. Do you guys agree?
I would have like to hear that from the Cs, but I'm assuming it comes under the subject of eat what's most efficient for bringing energy to your body, which they have stated.
Mr.Anderson
Jedi Master
Thanks for a great session.
I was one of those grass-fed vegetarians who loved animals more than people. I still love animals, I had pork for breakfast.
I was one of those grass-fed vegetarians who loved animals more than people. I still love animals, I had pork for breakfast.
Perceval said:Pashalis said:
I understood it as the dead dude talking.
Pashalis said:
The Bilderbergers were in St. Moritz last weekend, quite far from Berlin, and nothing happened. No "dead men". I got the impression that it was a dead Alex Jones fan!
the question is how does the source of this message define the words "near" and "soon".
Thanks for sharing Laura and team! 
Same here. I know also two women who are following that pattern: vegetarians and both are really authoritative. It has been many times really exhausting meeting one of them and I felt pretty much drained afterwards, where I often wondered what it might be, that I'm so much drained after I met one.
And since a longer time now I refuse to be too close in contact with them.
Another note, also when it is many, many years back a friend complaint about that so many animal protection things are available and almost nothing for kids.
I hope you guys are doing better now.
Turgon said:
Same here. I know also two women who are following that pattern: vegetarians and both are really authoritative. It has been many times really exhausting meeting one of them and I felt pretty much drained afterwards, where I often wondered what it might be, that I'm so much drained after I met one.
And since a longer time now I refuse to be too close in contact with them.
Another note, also when it is many, many years back a friend complaint about that so many animal protection things are available and almost nothing for kids.
session said:
I hope you guys are doing better now.
Perceval said:
Thank you. I understand. It's a thinking process, trying to carry out research, experiments and using logic.
Maybe I'm too critical. You can know that eating too much and poison has an bad effect on the body, but to know what is good for the body is something else. Then you really have to know how the body works.
Unless there are many cases of people who live a long happy healthy life by eating a certain diet, then maybe you are on to something.
It is impossible to prove the opposite that as long as you are believing that something is good for the body it cannot live sanely, peacefully and intelligently in this reality.
It sounds as a belief, but it is not. You can only see the world as it is when you don't have any beliefs and illusions (and I don't mean life itself, as we will never be able to understand life).
I understand that you want to do research and think about life. Of course it's a very interesting thing to do.
SolarMother
Dagobah Resident
WOW what an amazing session! Thank you all for the work.
Pork has always been my favorite meat, and for awhile I felt bad about eating it because of all the pressure/propaganda around it. It is great to be free from that pressure from studying objective knowledge!
Hmmmm...I wonder about the statement about pigs having a similar genetic code to humans and what that might mean since pigs are not carnivores and their meat is so succulent, fatty and nourishing.
Pork has always been my favorite meat, and for awhile I felt bad about eating it because of all the pressure/propaganda around it. It is great to be free from that pressure from studying objective knowledge!
Hmmmm...I wonder about the statement about pigs having a similar genetic code to humans and what that might mean since pigs are not carnivores and their meat is so succulent, fatty and nourishing.
Thanks a lot for this new session!
The bit about the authoritarian vegetarian types is really interesting, but I haven't yet met any of those personally. When I was a vegetarian, I was the only one in my close environment. Since eating meat I'm feeling much better, like my brain is working faster than before and having the feeling that the body is finally getting what it actually needs, there's a real feeling of being sated now.
LOL!
I've not been experiencing vomiting, but lots of nausea without knowing what the source may be; as well as very low energy levels and a more pronounced need to sleep.
Hope you all at the Chateau are doing better already!
The bit about the authoritarian vegetarian types is really interesting, but I haven't yet met any of those personally. When I was a vegetarian, I was the only one in my close environment. Since eating meat I'm feeling much better, like my brain is working faster than before and having the feeling that the body is finally getting what it actually needs, there's a real feeling of being sated now.
Mr.Anderson said:
LOL!
I've not been experiencing vomiting, but lots of nausea without knowing what the source may be; as well as very low energy levels and a more pronounced need to sleep.
Hope you all at the Chateau are doing better already!
jordifs
Jedi
Thanks for this session.
My last two weeks were horrible, and I was somewhat on a blockade and also a little ill (not externally but internally, digestive/guts).
To a degree is similar to what you describe in this session.
I also realised recently what a full-detox is able to achieve (how important it is).
I did finally got stuck around the 59.5Kg weight, down from 77Kg. For a 1.85m height it seems to be underweight and not healthy.
I perceive the detox process is finished, and now I need to perform regular maintenance on the body. I'm working on that to remove leg cramps that may be related to an electrolyte imbalance.
Another interesting issue that I recently noticed is lack of concentration.
I did share this thought with my sister and with a friend. Both confirmed me the same perception.
I cannot concentrate in Barcelona (the city I live). I work outside the city, and me and my sister noticed that we have our mind more "clear" when we are outside the city.
I did not conclude that a HAARP targeting the city is the root cause but speaking with a friend both point out that HAARP cannot be discarded as an important factor affecting our concentration (for me also lack of will).
Also this recent perception served me to realised that whatever it is ... I do need to exit. This is to move out of a heavy populated area.
I'm now with the task to search for a new job position, priority is not to work neither live in a big city.
Interesting is that commenting these issues with a reiki teacher (which is also a medium), she told me that she is also searching to exit the city ... because the environment is so hostile to work and to live.
Thanks again for the session, see you around Barcelona in the next events.
Jordi
My last two weeks were horrible, and I was somewhat on a blockade and also a little ill (not externally but internally, digestive/guts).
To a degree is similar to what you describe in this session.
I also realised recently what a full-detox is able to achieve (how important it is).
I did finally got stuck around the 59.5Kg weight, down from 77Kg. For a 1.85m height it seems to be underweight and not healthy.
I perceive the detox process is finished, and now I need to perform regular maintenance on the body. I'm working on that to remove leg cramps that may be related to an electrolyte imbalance.
Another interesting issue that I recently noticed is lack of concentration.
I did share this thought with my sister and with a friend. Both confirmed me the same perception.
I cannot concentrate in Barcelona (the city I live). I work outside the city, and me and my sister noticed that we have our mind more "clear" when we are outside the city.
I did not conclude that a HAARP targeting the city is the root cause but speaking with a friend both point out that HAARP cannot be discarded as an important factor affecting our concentration (for me also lack of will).
Also this recent perception served me to realised that whatever it is ... I do need to exit. This is to move out of a heavy populated area.
I'm now with the task to search for a new job position, priority is not to work neither live in a big city.
Interesting is that commenting these issues with a reiki teacher (which is also a medium), she told me that she is also searching to exit the city ... because the environment is so hostile to work and to live.
Thanks again for the session, see you around Barcelona in the next events.
Jordi
Thanks for the amazing session! I was impressed by how Laura dealed with the dead dude.
Someone mentioned having troubles doing EE. This is something that I've experienced too. During the last couple of weeks my motivation to do it has been lower than usual, resulting in fewer meditation than usual. And I've been having a hard time getting through the whole program-I keep falling asleep in minutes from starting. One other new thing is that the zoning out experiences have been different: instead of blacking out and noticing that the recording has skipped forward, as it usually happens, I've had times when time seems to freeze-I zone out for what feels like a long time, but when I come back the recording continues where I "left".
Maybe nothing, but I though I'd mention it, fwiw. :)
Someone mentioned having troubles doing EE. This is something that I've experienced too. During the last couple of weeks my motivation to do it has been lower than usual, resulting in fewer meditation than usual. And I've been having a hard time getting through the whole program-I keep falling asleep in minutes from starting. One other new thing is that the zoning out experiences have been different: instead of blacking out and noticing that the recording has skipped forward, as it usually happens, I've had times when time seems to freeze-I zone out for what feels like a long time, but when I come back the recording continues where I "left".
Maybe nothing, but I though I'd mention it, fwiw. :)
