Session 12 December 2010

[OrangeScorpion]

Thank you very much for the interesting session and hope Ailen and Atreides are feeling better soon.

 

[Johnno]

Don't really know how else to comment. The session just makes sense - it's almost surreal to look out the window here in Oz and see the constant rain. Switch the tele on and here come the reports of extensive floods and violent lightning - worldwide. Don't even wanna talk about the "global warming" in Europe. But yet another winter of the century is taking place there - right now.

Has anyone noticed the subtle shift from the term "Global warming" to "Climate Change"?

That covers everything! :)

 

[Sonrisa]

Just wanted to make a few notes about the "bug". Several of us had rather mild cases that seemed to be over pretty quick except for an ongoing coughing/clearing that wasn't TOO bad. But the main symptom seemed to be depression that was almost paralyzing. It's been so bad that we didn't get our tree decorated until yesterday because nobody wanted to do it. (And we usually do it on the 1st of December.)

It is really interesting because I was one of the early attendees but I wasn't sick when I arrived but the second day after try to sleep I had a incredible pain in one of my shoulder, after I arrived in my country I`ve been down with Depression I even wanted to put something for Christmas. .. the main point is I`ve never have Depression in my life, never feel so down as I feel now, althought having this kind of situation that I`ve been living since my arrive. Inside of me I really have had a battle about my feelings !!!!! :/

Thanks for the session it is always very interesting!!! Thanks for your effort crew!!! Hope Ailèn and Atreides get well !!!! A great huge for you people!!!! Hope you all Have a nice days this time!!!! ;)

I was also one of the early attendees. When I read this session, I thought "Oh, no! Was it me who brought the bug?" if it was me, I am truly sorry. But then but I didn't get sick until a few days after I got home from PF, and the physical part of the illness was pretty mild for me. But the depression was absolutely crushing, and I have had that for 2 months now. And it is still affecting me, although it is easing a little bit. I have felt, at times, like there is no point in going on, that the situation is so hopeless that we are doomed. Then I would sort of snap out of it, then it would crash down on me again. I've had trouble sleeping, concentrating, much like everyone else is describing. I thought that it was just me, and that somehow I had just lost my motivation for continuing on. Pretty bleak. Definitely lost a lot of my buffers. I really feel the horror of the situation, and it is overwhelming at times.

But finally, I also came to the realization, even before I read this C's session, that even if I'm not ready to graduate when the Wave comes, or I get smashed by comets before then, I can really try to help in whatever ways I can, in whatever time I have left here. Maybe it will make a difference, maybe it won't. I will try. Definitely not going back to sleep. I just need to drag my behind along and keep moving and doing.

Thank you, Laura and the chateau crew for all you're doing, for this session, despite the terrible difficulties you've been going through since the Paleofest. Attriedes and Ailen, I hope that you recover very soon.

Sonrisa

 

[shellycheval]

Many of the comments on this thread made me think of this quote from The Fellowship of the Ring, I, 2:

“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.

“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” –

 

[manitoban]

Many of the comments on this thread made me think of this quote from The Fellowship of the Ring, I, 2:

“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.

“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” –

Thanks Shelly, this pretty much sums it all up in a way doesn't it? I've always felt moved by that particular quote.

 

[Drea]

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who shared their thoughts here on this thread. I have never been one for sharing myself and I know this is a program I have to work through, but hearing the rest of you share made me realize how everyone is going through similar things. As always I am amazed by this network and the comfort I feel just being a small part of it.

The times are looking rough and I am scared, although I am so glad this is happening, because I do not want to spend my life in a world without truth.

Lately there has been a feeling of unfamiliarity for me. Each day when I wake up there is a feeling that I am being swept down a river without anything to hold on to or any hope of getting back to where I was. It was very frightening at first, but the feeling was always there, only it feels stronger now. To cope I built myself a raft, and started to just go with it, because I know there is no stopping now. Every now and then I'll see someone wallowing in the waters around me and I reach out my hand, but many of them don't seem to know they are in the river. Sometimes I'll look back and think that I was once on firm ground, and that there had been a safe place for me there, but I know this is a lie and that I was in the river too.

I'm happy now to know I am not alone and that there are other rafts on the river and even though I may never see another raft I know that they are there flowing in the same direction I am.

Sorry for the metaphors, but I've always found it easier to express myself this way. When this is all over, I only hope to be more than I am now, that I can open my eyes and see what is truly there and not the same illusions.

I am grateful for everyone here. Best wishes to all of you.

 

[luke wilson]

The times are looking rough and I am scared, although I am so glad this is happening, because I do not want to spend my life in a world without truth.

I feel scared aswell.

Lately there has been a feeling of unfamiliarity for me.

Same.

Hopefully it'll pass.

On a different note.

A: 3 Nights! Ok

Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?

A: Eilltea

Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from?

A: Leo 3 nights!

Q: (L) Can you tell us what the 3 nights signifies?

A: Just wait and see!

(L) Who wants to start with questions?

Q: (Galahad) Why are they coming through Leo?

A: We said “next stop.”

Q: Hello?

A: Over the rainbow.

Q: Who do we have with us this evening?

A: Ronnjia

Q: And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea/Leo.

Q: What does “Over the rainbow” refer to?

A: End of the world/4th density.

Q: (Perceval) Does that mean the end of the world is nigh?

A: Somewhere!

Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?

A: Cassiopaea. Moving to Leo soon.

Q: (L) Is the moving to Leo a signifier of some other potential event that would be noticed by us here on Earth?

A: Yes. Possible Supernova. Will stupendously improve reception of our messages.

Q: (L) Why is that? Cosmic waves?

A: Will affect your DNA as well as the DNA of those that are ready.

Since I cant think in non-linear ways I failed to understand the whole leo thing. They have been getting close to Leo for quite awhile now. I believe on 29th of july 2006 they said Leo 3 days. Did anyone ever figure out what the 3 days meant because it surely didnt mean they'd be in leo in 3 days given that of 12th december 2010 they were yet to be there....

On 25th August 2006 they said "over the rainbow" before saying cassiopaea/leo and end of the world/4th density.

They also said "(Andromeda) The weather this last year has been kinda strange. Is it going to be worse?

A: Expect early snow."

I wasnt checking but I dont think we got early snow in 2006. However, fast forward 2010 and I do believe we got early snow.

Anyways, my question is I dont understand any of this.... why are they mentioning Leo all the time and years in advance and giving stuff like 3 days and this year they didnt say anything about early snow... And above the rainbow... is any of this connected some way? When perceval asks whether the end of the world is nigh in 2006, they say somewhere!!! Somewhere in the world ended in 2006?? or is somewhere going to end soon?? and they say end/4D.

Wish everyone a happy Xmas.

 

[Nienna]

Many of the comments on this thread made me think of this quote from The Fellowship of the Ring, I, 2:

“I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.

“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” –

Thanks Shelly, this pretty much sums it all up in a way doesn't it? I've always felt moved by that particular quote.

Me as well. This quote really does say it all and is something that I think of often.

Thanks for sharing this, Shelly. It really does fit the situation, or so I think.

 

[luke wilson]

Something just popped into my head but probably completely irrelevant.

A: You guessed it this afternoon; preparation to accept global control. Or so it is planned.

Q: (L) I guess that means it may or may not turn out the way they expect?

A: It will get close. But remember the ”X” factor.

Q: (L) What is the X factor?

A: Earth changes.

They could have easily said, the Tv show(as abit of mirth?), which finished the same weekend this session was done. The guy who won it, matt cardle is currently on the no.1 spot in the charts.

Irrelevant but interesting piece of trivia that they used the term "x factor" the same weekend as the finals.

 

[LQB]

Don't really know how else to comment. The session just makes sense - it's almost surreal to look out the window here in Oz and see the constant rain. Switch the tele on and here come the reports of extensive floods and violent lightning - worldwide. Don't even wanna talk about the "global warming" in Europe. But yet another winter of the century is taking place there - right now.

Has anyone noticed the subtle shift from the term "Global warming" to "Climate Change"?

That covers everything! :)

Yes, I have noticed a bunch. In some places, the verbal battle is heating up - like Max Keiser's bizarre stance in favor of AGW. I've posted many comments with evidence against AGW (as many others). "Climate change" of any kind is now being verbally equated with AGW!

 

[Steve M.]

I had some thoughts to share about globes.

The C's stated:

A: Oh indeed! Yes, it is happening already. Do you not see the evidence all around the globe?

Breton said:

-- I seem to recall that supposedly there is to be a pretty rare alignment going to happen Dec 20, 2012: Sun, earth, moon, center of galaxy. Or something like that. We know that as far as an earth-shaking event, 2012 is a distraction (based on C's input earlier), but any particular alignments along with this capacitor effect being talked about here makes me wonder if still 2012 might be a significant year anyways. Maybe mainly psychically.

In any case "evidence all around the globe" are probably earth changes, and people doing weird things.

I was thinking in terms of solar system wide globes. There was an article a couple of years back that (images) showed that many of the planet poles were changing color. I just wanted to make reference to it in reference to the many books Laura mentioned.

A few references: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/216307-Saturn-s-Glowing-Southern-Lights Saturn's Glowing Southern Lights
Saturn's aurorae offer stunning double show http://www.sott.net/articles/show/202838-Saturn-s-aurorae-offer-stunning-double-show

Sadly these aren't the specific items I was looking for though they give a general outline of what I was hoping to get at. In reflection to the earth, I see a similar situation.

Quoting Laura:

"..It’s growing from accumulating stuff, from acquiring stuff. And if that’s the case, we could be attracting dust loading in the upper atmosphere-regardless of whether or not we pass through cometary dust clouds. All these things that we’ve been noticing going on in the upper atmosphere – strange clouds, long-lasting contrails, extreme cooling - could be exactly as he described. There could also be atmospheric effects of these electric sheets, because he says that there are different kinds of ways of currents and layers of currents. He’s got like a five layer model of how the electromagnetic field of the planet goes, and he says that it’s the cause of El Niño, it’s the cause of Earthquakes, volcanoes , storms, changing of the Jet Stream, and just a whole host of things: it’s all electrical phenomena.."

Again, the article I had hoped to find had many images of planets poles showing changes in color (using different imaging) over the last several years. Taking the last quote above into consideration, I'm thinking the earth would be/has been doing something similar with "strange (noctilucent?) clouds, long-lasting contrails, extreme cooling" going on. Different globes, but I thought maybe the subject behind the scenes were sort of referencing each other perhaps.

I hope everyone has gotten to feeling better there.

I've been having some strange bouts of rage and depression lately as well, but feel I'm getting over that mountain. It had started between the 14 and 16th of this month. So the struggle with the predator continues..

Salutes!

 

[atiil]

Thank you very much for another interesting session!

I'm coming off one of those horribly mechanical periods where the day to day needs of just financially surviving have been overwhelming. Chasing work and money just to 'stand still' has deflected me from working on myself and I'm very frustrated how easily I've let that happen.

Just like a few here have commented it's been getting harder and harder to keep convincing myself that I have ANY power at all to convince ANYONE in my life that the path they are choosing is an illusion.

I used to be a bull in a china shop, so eager to spread what I thought I'd just learned, and quickly found out this was about the worst thing I could do. With the knowledge gained from this forum I started to develop external consideration in discussions with friends and family about things going on on the BBM, but the more they talk about any subject other than the X factor and the soaps on TV, the more I get to realise this appears to be a complete waste of energy. Even the ones who have mentioned that alot of what I've mentioned in discussions has come to pass, and these were the easy things like the financial crisis etc, can't even grasp how it will affect their own family, and when I mention research about vaccinations to them, I'm made to feel as if I'm making a direct attack on their ability to be good parents, and that after simply mentioning that they should do more research before getting their children vaccinated!!

The most heartbreaking piece to all of this is not being able to wake up my own family. I've tried so many different ways but the truth is I don't think I'm any further forward than when I first joined the forum. I just don't seem to be able to get them to take the step to simply look at the world as it is and not how they wish it to be. I really thought i'd made an impression with my eldest daughter, she had started to make comments about current affairs which were most heartening she also read quite a few of the SOTT articles, but recently she has been doing very well in her job and everything is going very well for her. I'm very proud of her for that, but it has had the affect of putting her back to sleep and even more comfortable with the illusion she's living. In our home I have to do all my EE behind closed doors which makes me feel even more isolated as no one is comfortable with me doing my various EE exercises. So all in all my objective reality is that I have been unable to wake up anyone who makes up the very fabric of my day to day life. It feels as if a straight jacked has been placed around me and frankly, I really don't have a clue whether I should keep using up valuable energy, and keep trying, or simply stop trying completely and save my energy for other battles yet to come.

I suppose the question I'm really asking is where do I stand in the grand scheme of things? if everyone around you, including the ones you love, just want you to keep working, keep earning money to keep the machine going how can you ever break free, without leaving the very people you love?!! At the moment the internal struggle is eating away my energy, I just feel completely powerless in my ability to help others, especially my family, and just to show how confused I feel at the moment I wasn't going to post this as it felt like just one big pity play, but I KEEP saying that to myself whenever I want to post and ask for assistance from the forum. A vicious confusing circle that at the moment I feel quite lost in and frankly scared about my ability to deal with what is approaching.

 

[Nienna]

Take a moment and just breathe, atil. :)

Some people are not going to wake up. That's all there is to it. As a matter of fact, most people are just hunky dory with staying asleep. Or, as you say of those around you, the PTB have everyone so busy with trying to make the day to day things get done and enough food on the table, heat, lights, water, etc. that that's all they care about.

The only thing that you should be concerned with as far as the Work goes, is yourself. Do not waste your energy on trying to wake others up. If you can spread little seeds along the way that may make them see things as they are in the future, that's good. But don't waste your energy on feeling that you are failing because those around you are not interested in waking up.

So use your energy to Work on yourself, maybe by doing that, others will see the changes in you and they will then want to know why and learn about changing, too.

Everybody has their own lessons to learn in their own time.

fwiw

 

[luke wilson]

I suppose the question I'm really asking is where do I stand in the grand scheme of things? if everyone around you, including the ones you love, just want you to keep working, keep earning money to keep the machine going how can you ever break free, without leaving the very people you love?!! At the moment the internal struggle is eating away my energy, I just feel completely powerless in my ability to help others, especially my family, and just to show how confused I feel at the moment I wasn't going to post this as it felt like just one big pity play, but I KEEP saying that to myself whenever I want to post and ask for assistance from the forum. A vicious confusing circle that at the moment I feel quite lost in and frankly scared about my ability to deal with what is approaching.

I think no one knows where they stand on the grand scheme of things and I dont think it really does matter where we stand because regardless of where we stand, we need to give our best and play our role as impecably as possible. From what I understand, you cant make people change. People have to change out of there own volition. However, what you can do is maybe talk to your friends and family members but if they dont seem interested in what you are saying then you should let it be and people learn differently and at there own pace so just because they dont seem interested now doesnt mean they wont at some point in the future. Look at it from a different angle, why are you letting there decision to be how they are affect you? Maybe because somehow it affects your self-importance?? Should respect there free will.

Interms of being pushed to keep earning money and keep the machine going, you can do this without feeling so helpless in the process, OSIT. In a way, we should take responsibility for our decisions - direct quote from Don Juan. If you are a family man, you made that choice at some point and now you should take that responsibility of providing for your family without feeling sorry for yourself. You can work on yourself whilst you do that. Be patient, you have no other choice but to do what you have to do now which is meet these responsibilities. Maybe in the future a different avenue will open itself to you??

It feels as if a straight jacked has been placed around me and frankly, I really don't have a clue whether I should keep using up valuable energy, and keep trying, or simply stop trying completely and save my energy for other battles yet to come.

I'd say you should be more strategic on how you use your energy. We dont have an endless reserve of energy at our disposal and to me it seems your picking fights that are way beyond what you and alot of people can handle. You want to change people and that is not something easy and will only result in you feeling helpless and drained. Instead use your energy to work on yourself best you can to be free from the false personality. Who knows what you'll be able to see or do when you are free, but until then, take care and take it easy.

Oh, before I forget, maybe you if you havent done so, you can get Mouravieffs Gnosis books and have a read. He talks about the world of the general Law(which acts directly through those entrapped in A influences - who are nearly everyone) and how to go directly against that world is devastating for the seeker... Thus a need for a strategic enclosure.

 

[EGVG]

Something just popped into my head but probably completely irrelevant.

A: You guessed it this afternoon; preparation to accept global control. Or so it is planned.

Q: (L) I guess that means it may or may not turn out the way they expect?

A: It will get close. But remember the ”X” factor.

Q: (L) What is the X factor?

A: Earth changes.

They could have easily said, the TV show(as abit of mirth?), which finished the same weekend this session was done. The guy who won it, matt cardle is currently on the no.1 spot in the charts.

Irrelevant but interesting piece of trivia that they used the term "x factor" the same weekend as the finals.

I know right? I saw the coincidence too, weird ah?(go team minogue) !!! Next year the X factor is moving to the Us....