SAO said:
We really need each other to keep ourselves moving, to stay the course with minimal detours. So even when people express interest in subjects outside of their already stressful daily lives, subjects that require a powerful commitment and motivation to understand and an even more powerful commitment to make appropriate changes in their lives, where is their "support group"? Most people, even those who are receptive to these things, are not necessarily ready to just join this forum and learn about things like hyperdimensional realities, etc. So all they have is us passing info to them. But without a support network, without "social proof" and a group that keeps telling you that "you can do it" and is composed of people who have done it as proof that it's possible, how many of us would've been able to do anything? If some acquaintance just told me about this diet or a lot of the subjects we discuss, would it have been enough for me to do anything with it or keep being interested, without this network?
I agree SAO. I think that having a support group is fundamental. The average human being is already overwhelmed with his/her daily cores, having to find the energy and courage on his/her own to tear the fabric of illusion away, takes indeed one of a kind.
When I was a child I remember having these glimpses of mine, and other's own mechanicalness, but the thought of pursuing these glimpses without anyone else to back them up, apart from myself, was way too overwhelming. I clearly remember choosing to ignore them for the sake of being able to integrate within a social environment.
I think this happens with many people, they know in their guts that something is wrong or missing, but trying to not only figure that out, but also stick to that path on their own is beyond what they can do, and this is were a support group can do miracles.
An example can be seen in taking classes in a specific subject. We can search the Internet, buy books, and find any other methods of self teaching and self practice. But if being really serious about it, we'll find that most of people will prefer to take classes. The presence of other people working towards the same aim makes it much more powerful.
SAO said:
Another thought is to create local communities, local groups that discuss these things and share this information among all the members.
I think that a good way to start something similar is the EE class niches that are gradually being created over the world. It really has the potential to grow, osit. It starts in a non threatening way, where people who simply wish to feel better about themselves can join a class. As the classes develop and expand in attendants different topics can be brought in, and due to a trust bond already established with the teacher, attendants will be much more opened to what he/she has to say. Who knows what might grow from here?
By doing what's ahead of us to do without anticipation we might get surprised, or not, but I think that it is worth to try.
sitta said:
When I think about sharing knowledge there appear, among other problems, the problem of trust and credibility. We often think, that our familly and friends and sometimes acquaintances trust us and the information that we provide more than they do information from other sources. The thing is that when push comes to shove the reality is very different. What a shock that one is. We find out, that they may listen to us if we talk about things that we do in our professional capacity but when you step out of this comfort zone all bets are off. It's a shock when a complete strangers take us more seriously than those close to us.
True. I think that part of the issue lies in the fact that the one's that are closest to us have experienced a violation of personal space and free will of some sort. Offers of unsolicited advice, discussions where listening gives way to pushing one's point of view at the first opportunity are, sadly, some characteristics that are often part of closer relationships. We become reactive and more automatic, will tend to assume that we have the other person all figured out, and will stamp him/her for our own ease of mind. As a consequence, we'll tend to create a protective shell that filters what we hear from our loved ones. This is were constant awareness needs to come in in listening to others, as well as enabling other's perspective of ourselves to gradually change by acting and being more then actually speaking, or so I think.
I agree with what some have said that in order to spread the knowledge on some of the tings we are discussing, it would be wise to choose with whom to spend our energy. Some people who seem to be asking are only doing it on a very superficial level. They won't do anything with the information that's been given to them as in Mrs Tigersoap examples. It could perhaps be more useful to just drop snippets of information when they are asked for, here and there, and if further interest is shown, spend the energy in providing more.
Another thing to consider when exposing more controversial subjects, such as psychopathy within the elite, is how to word one's speech. Due to its nature, some subjects are prone to get extreme reactions, particularly if discussed similarly to how we discuss them here. Carefully choosing one's words so as to seemingly meet what the listener appears to believe, by first acknowledging what he thinks, and then gradually introduce pieces of information that challenge only a few, not all, of his/her beliefs is something that I've been thinking about.
brainwave said:
It's probably just semantics but I think of it in terms of helping others and myself to get healthy in mind body and spirit. So whether or not someone is interested in the topics we study and discuss here, if they choose to, they can benefit from some of what we learn. For example, practicing EE makes people better equipped to deal with things in general. This is what I love about FOTCM because it is a mechanism for helping people at whatever level they are, or level they choose to help and be helped. Someone doesn't have to be interested in the work or earth changes and so on to benefit. I have family members who have no interest in this stuff, and don't think there is much they can do about the world situation but they can and do choose to the EE exercises. My super fundie christian aunt told me it helps her to think and feel better as well as work better with others she interacts with. Some of her church folks get together at her house to do it with the DVD playing, which was interesting to hear from my standpoint.
It is also how I see it. Rather then trying to "wake others up", doing what we are doing will give people the freedom to choose whether they want to join in, and up to which degree. Well, we have, of course, to be pretty loud so that many people have at least a chance to see what we do.
Good to hear that your super fundie aunt is doing EE, and has her own practice group!
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