Session 14 August 2016

[Catalyst]

Thanks for much for the session. I appreciate the questions and discussion on lying and also, thought the topic of reading intention of other people by Galatea was interesting.

Have ALL the crystals been sent? I requested one, but moved. So I am NOT sure if I was selected to get one or it just got lost in the mail??

 

[marek760]

Thank you so much for this new session and sharing it with us.

 

[bianca etezete]

Thank you all a lot for this latest session.

Especially the section about brain dammage through concious lying was very interesting for I experienced something very strange some weeks ago, when I lied. It was a concious lie, I have to admit I told the lie because I was asked something and I thought the other person couldn't handle the truth. The lie outspoken - I felt a strange "ping" in my brain, and my neck hairs stood up from sleeve to beginning of headhair. ... I thought about it later on - and I realized that it maybe was not so that the other person couldn't handle the truth - but that I was falling back in to some avoidance strategy. Because I suddenly knew I coulnd't handle the reaction to the truth. Oh boy.

 

[John G]

...the 3 major gods Vishnu considered nuetral, while shiva destroyer and Brahma a creator.

Q: (L) So in other words, what we are looking at here through a probably distorted survival via Zoroaster or Zarathushtra is that the Aryan religion was based first of all on a supreme principle of infinite time and infinite space from which was born essentially "good mind" and "evil mind" as Zoroaster put it?

A: Yes. STO and STS duality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura

Asuras (Sanskrit: असुर) are mythological lord beings in Indian and Persian (Ariæns) texts who compete for power with the more benevolent devas (also known as suras).[1] Asuras are described in Indian texts as powerful superhuman demigods or demons with good or bad qualities. The good Asuras are called Adityas and are led by Varuna, while the malevolent ones are called Danavas and are led by Vritra.[2]

What a wonderfully deep session.

Q: (L) And what had it been corrupted to?

A: The Indian Vedas will give clues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvanism

Aesthetic Zurvanism
Aesthetic Zurvanism, which was apparently not as popular as the materialistic kind, viewed Zurvan as undifferentiated Time, which, under the influence of desire, divided into reason (a male principle) and concupiscence (a female principle).

The blue- bolded part struck me a little, as the word concupiscence has a somewhat narrow meaning today, namely lust and carnal desire. The Catholic church has had a fine old time railing against it for centuries, demonizing women as a danger to men because they were it's source.

However it earlier meant 'desire' in a broader sense. From google:

Middle English: via Old French from late Latin concupiscentia, from Latin concupiscent- ‘beginning to desire,’ from the verb concupiscere, from con- (expressing intensive force) + cupere ‘to desire.’

And also

concupiscence (n.) Look up concupiscence at Dictionary.com
mid-14c., from Latin concupiscentia "eager desire," from concupiscens, present participle of concupiscere, inceptive of concupere "to be very desirous of," from com-, intensive prefix (see com-), + cupere "to long for" (see cupidity).

So it could mean any strongly felt desire. But even at Zervanism's early date there seems to be an association of the feminine principle with"desire".

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The Zoroastrian Gathas, are sprinkled with statements that appear to view the position of men and women as fairly equal especially in Gatha 53. The link is a pdf of a simplified translation, so you'll need to scroll down.

In the later Zervanism, women it seems women are blamed in much the same way as in Judeo-Christianity, though those ideas may have crept in from elsewhere.

[..] classical Zurvanism's shades of Zurvan as potential and Zurvan as infinite time smells of the idea of 7th density...

Definitely seems like a law of three division at the 7th density level. It reminds me of when Laura matched the densities to the Sephirot with STO and STS on the outer columns and 7th Density at the top of the middle column. The thing is I'm not sure exactly how to match this to active (affirming)-passive (denying)-neutralizing(reconciling). First thought would be to have the middle column 7th density as neutralizing/reconciling between STO and STS since it has both before splitting.

However to me it seems more like desire/will is reconciling between STO reason/knowledge and the 7th density undifferentiated ideal/being. In other words you have to affirm the 7th density ideal but in the STO reason/knowledge sense, there are things to do in the lower densities that would not fit in 7th density. Will/desire reconciles the ideal with reason but if it contracts too much to itself you get STS.

I think the Cs once said something like the male and female gender symbolism could easily be reversed; it's not an actual gender thing obviously. Unfortunately everything can get misused.

 

[theos]

Thanks for the session. I thought that the definitions of illusion and delusion were opposite of what the C's gave, but thanks Joe for further explanation. It makes more sense now.

I found the bit about Killary interesting. If we are going to be subjected to that thing being president it's nice to know that we'll have a little entertainment witnessing her brain glitches.

 

[findit]

Thanks for a great session. I always enjoy the discussions on history. I was surprised that Zoroaster went that far back in time and influenced Ahkenaton. Or wasn't it Nefertiti that influenced Ahkenaton? The item on the lion-headed statue was shocking! 40,000 yrs-old?
I keep waiting to see how the Democrats will spin Hillary's health. I was watching the audience reactions to Trump's speeches and they looked riveted to every word he said. I think Trump will definitely win the popular vote unless he sabotages himself which he is more than capable of doing.
The illusion vs delusion discussion was timely as it seems to spreading across the globe. Also, just to acknowledge the radio shows. I listened to the discussion on John Keel twice and listening again to some of the older shows again like William Patrick Patterson. Really good! Keep up the good work. I know it's what keeps me going since I encounter some rough days. Thank you.

 

[angelburst29]

Q: (L) If that's the case, how was that possible?

A: The ancient world was quite "well connected".

E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalisation. The empires at that time where so connected, some Egyptian artefacts were found in Scandinavia. But maybe connectedness here refers to connectedness to higher densities?

Thanks, Laura and the Chateau, for another interesting Session. Very much appreciated and educational.

Could the C's statement, "The ancient world was quite "well connected" and MKrnhr's reference E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalization. be in reference to - crystals being used in much the same way, we now use our computers and the ancient Crystal Pyramids were the data bases?

 

[naorma]

Q: (L) [...] Is there anything that could be said about what would be the best attitude or path for them to take from this point on?

A: Realizing one's blindness and ignorance can be shattering but with the breaking of the shell of illusion and delusion, one can be born into the light!

Q: (L) I noticed you used the words "illusion" and "delusion". What's the difference between an illusion and a delusion, aside from our normal dictionary definitions?

A: Illusion is mostly self-generated; delusion is mostly induced from without.

Q: (L) So, if you create fantasies in your own head and believe in them, you're living in an illusion. If you're programmed to believe wrong things or induced into something by life circumstances or other people's words or actions, that would be a delusion. Well, that's a little bit different I think than the dictionary definition. It's interesting to get their view of why they use different words. [...]

Thank you for asking and thanks to the C's for the answer!

 

[Altair]

Fascinating session! Thanks a lot.

Q: (L) If that's the case, how was that possible?

A: The ancient world was quite "well connected".

E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalisation. The empires at that time where so connected, some Egyptian artefacts were found in Scandinavia. But maybe connectedness here refers to connectedness to higher densities?

I was thinking about it, too. Maybe consciously connected with each other through information field as we (re)connect with each other through crystalls?

 

[Redrock12]

Thanks for another enlightening and fascinating session, with much to ponder, especially regarding the crystals.

 

[Gawan]

Thank you for sharing . I found it again very interesting, for example the history part sounds very promising and I'm looking forward reading more about it in detail.

(L) Oh! There is one other question I wanted to ask. There are a number of people who have commented on crystals that have been selected for them that were flawed as they perceived it. And I would like to know why do some people get selected crystals that have these perceived flaws?

A: They are not "flaws". They are etched frequency modulators similar to the principle of computer chips, and thus can load and carry and transmit specific information.

Q: (Galatea) So basically everybody needs to stop being so shallow and superficial and love their crystal that loves them!

(L) Well, not just that, but I think they need to appreciate the fact that this is an energy-transmitting device. It's not an ornament.

A: Yes

I really liked that part too, since I thought in a similar direction. For me my personal stone is like a lucky charm somehow to take care of.

Fascinating session! Thanks a lot.

Q: (L) If that's the case, how was that possible?

A: The ancient world was quite "well connected".

E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalisation. The empires at that time where so connected, some Egyptian artefacts were found in Scandinavia. But maybe connectedness here refers to connectedness to higher densities?

I was thinking about it, too. Maybe consciously connected with each other through information field as we (re)connect with each other through crystalls?

I could imagine that it was that way.

 

[Ca.]

Thank you one, and all for another great session.

 

[WIN 52]

I hadn't noticed any imperfections in my crystals. Re examining them more closely, I have found small square bumps on the surface, much like a chip embedded in the crystal. That was a pleasant surprise.

The connection is definitely gaining strength. I had concerns about something going on within the network, some sort of an attempt to disrupt. Not knowing what was going on, it was felt that the situation was under control. Yes, even my Internet connection was giving me trouble. Glad to hear that things are going well. Although we have yet to see just how strong the crystal network will become.

Pause:

I just used my crystals to send Laura a healing. They reacted very positively to the use.

Thanks for asking about reading peoples intent, Galatea. This too is another confirmation for me as well. In fact, I use it a lot in my daily walk with positive results.

Once again, thank you for the session.

 

[Ca.]

Q: (L) If that's the case, how was that possible?

A: The ancient world was quite "well connected".

E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalisation. The empires at that time where so connected, some Egyptian artefacts were found in Scandinavia. But maybe connectedness here refers to connectedness to higher densities?

I was wondering the same thing as they used the quotes both times in the responses.

It reminds me of the Tower of Babel and the spiritual unification of the masses. Perhaps such understandings were more widespread at those times because people were more unifed, thus facilitating similar understandings "at a distance".

Marcus Aurelius did a good read on the Babel Connection and your post Approaching Infinity. Thanks.

Lately, I came accross again the excerpt from Session 941005 in which questions have been asked about what these guys intended to do and this prompted some thinking which are still in my mind. here is the excerpt:
[quote author=Session 941005]
Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.
Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build the tower intend for said tower?
A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.
Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.
Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
A: Spiritual unification of the masses.
Q: (L) Who were the "gods" that looked down on the tower of Babel, at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and decided to destroy
their works?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing literal disruption of their
understanding of language?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.
Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.

I assume that for these people to come together and attempt to do this, they should have had a quite good understanding of the reality in which humanity was in. They knew that humanity was spiritually divided and they knew of a way to change this. And I assume that the technique they tried to use was already no more accessible to humans at that time, so they should have received or learned it from some higher source.
So the question that keeps coming in my mind is how these guys, with all the knowledge and understanding they had, have still been defeated by Lizards. I mean, the simple fact that they understood that humans were divided should have directed them to some dividers, and from what they tried to do, I suppose that they knew of Lizards existence. If yes, the fact that they carried their project on the right track to some extend suppose they set some quite good protections against them! But still, they have been defeated. What could have not been right with them and their attempt that opened them up to 4D STS attacks?
We'll perhaps never know, but does this prevent us to discuss possibilities? Any thought?

I lenghtly thought and am still thinking why this question wasn't leaving my head before posting it, perhaps to distract me (and others by this very act of posting it) from thinking about the present, working on myself and so on or perhaps, most likely, it is releated to my understanding of humanity probable future. From what I can currently see about humanity condition, a bright future seems impossible without something like a new Tower of Babel.
And perhaps this post will prompt some good replies that will give me a new and better understanding or will point some gaps in my current knowledge. I hope so!
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And we find him in Mithraic religion as a mysterious naked lion-headed (leontocephaline) figure often found in Mithraic temples. He is entwined by a serpent, (or two serpents, like a caduceus) with the snake's head often resting on the lion's head.
http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.fr/2015/02/radegost-welcome-guest.html

 

[lainey]

Thank you so much for the session. I'm so glad that the outcome for those with broken crystals is a positive one. I can't wait to see what's next for us all. :)