Session 14 August 2016

Catalyst said:
Have ALL the crystals been sent? I requested one, but moved. So I am NOT sure if I was selected to get one or it just got lost in the mail?? :huh:

They have not all been sent, no. There are still many orders to be fulfilled. But if your address has changed, PLEASE send us an email with the new one. You are on the waiting list, so it's not too late to change it.
 
DougEE said:
Thanks again for an interesting session (as always).

Q: (L) And they came up with these ideas of infinite time and space that far back?

A: And so much more. They were "connected".
I wonder if crystals had anything to do with this 'connectedness'?


They repeated the "connected" several times. I'm thinking crystals, telepathy, information field.

(L) Oh! There is one other question I wanted to ask. There are a number of people who have commented on crystals that have been selected for them that were flawed as they perceived it. And I would like to know why do some people get selected crystals that have these perceived flaws?

A: They are not "flaws". They are etched frequency modulators similar to the principle of computer chips, and thus can load and carry and transmit specific information.

Q: (Galatea) So basically everybody needs to stop being so shallow and superficial and love their crystal that loves them!

(L) Well, not just that, but I think they need to appreciate the fact that this is an energy-transmitting device. It's not an ornament.

A: Yes
The Encyclopedia of Crystals by Judy Hall had this to say about Crystal Tools:

Etched Crystal - The appearance of hieroglyphs or cuneform writing on a face indecates an etched crtystal that can take you back to access your own past knowledge and that of ancient systems of healing and is especiallly helpful in past-life work.

Record- Keeper - clearly etched pyramids or an incised chevron indicate a record-keeper that holds spirtual wisdom and accesses personal or collective insight. Record-keepers are extremely personal crystals.
I had read this when I posted my initial impressions about my personal crystal. It was nice to have the C's validation of the purpose of the personal crystals. I feel the unlocking of hard lessons to come and self work but also the as yet unknown possibilities to grow and connect that awaits us all.
 
Chu said:
Catalyst said:
Have ALL the crystals been sent? I requested one, but moved. So I am NOT sure if I was selected to get one or it just got lost in the mail?? :huh:

They have not all been sent, no. There are still many orders to be fulfilled. But if your address has changed, PLEASE send us an email with the new one. You are on the waiting list, so it's not too late to change it.

Hi Chu, I'm in the waiting list too???...

Thanks in advance... :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:
 
mariowil7 said:
Hi Chu, I'm in the waiting list too???...

Yes you are, and so are the other two people you ordered crystals for. They'll get there, don't worry. :)
 
Thank you for another session!! The C's clarification of the difference between illusion and delusion and the follow up discussion are very interesting and helpful. I had the thought that perhaps people use illusion as a crippling way to cope with delusions foisted upon them. Seeing the objective truth of both forms of lying is very freeing to the spirit as well as healing for the brain.
 
c.a. said:
Approaching Infinity said:
aleana said:
mkrnhr said:
Q: (L) If that's the case, how was that possible?

A: The ancient world was quite "well connected".

E. Cline calls this inter-connectedness the first Globalisation. The empires at that time where so connected, some Egyptian artefacts were found in Scandinavia. But maybe connectedness here refers to connectedness to higher densities?

I was wondering the same thing as they used the quotes both times in the responses.

It reminds me of the Tower of Babel and the spiritual unification of the masses. Perhaps such understandings were more widespread at those times because people were more unifed, thus facilitating similar understandings "at a distance".

Marcus Aurelius did a good read on the Babel Connection and your post Approaching Infinity. Thanks.

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Marcus Aurelius said:
Lately, I came accross again the excerpt from Session 941005 in which questions have been asked about what these guys intended to do and this prompted some thinking which are still in my mind. here is the excerpt:
[quote author=Session 941005]
Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.
Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build the tower intend for said tower?
A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.
Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.
Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
A: Spiritual unification of the masses.
Q: (L) Who were the "gods" that looked down on the tower of Babel, at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and decided to destroy
their works?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing literal disruption of their
understanding of language?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.
Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.
I assume that for these people to come together and attempt to do this, they should have had a quite good understanding of the reality in which humanity was in. They knew that humanity was spiritually divided and they knew of a way to change this. And I assume that the technique they tried to use was already no more accessible to humans at that time, so they should have received or learned it from some higher source.
So the question that keeps coming in my mind is how these guys, with all the knowledge and understanding they had, have still been defeated by Lizards. I mean, the simple fact that they understood that humans were divided should have directed them to some dividers, and from what they tried to do, I suppose that they knew of Lizards existence. If yes, the fact that they carried their project on the right track to some extend suppose they set some quite good protections against them! But still, they have been defeated. What could have not been right with them and their attempt that opened them up to 4D STS attacks?
We'll perhaps never know, but does this prevent us to discuss possibilities? Any thought?

I lenghtly thought and am still thinking why this question wasn't leaving my head before posting it, perhaps to distract me (and others by this very act of posting it) from thinking about the present, working on myself and so on or perhaps, most likely, it is releated to my understanding of humanity probable future. From what I can currently see about humanity condition, a bright future seems impossible without something like a new Tower of Babel.
And perhaps this post will prompt some good replies that will give me a new and better understanding or will point some gaps in my current knowledge. I hope so!


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And we find him in Mithraic religion as a mysterious naked lion-headed (leontocephaline) figure often found in Mithraic temples. He is entwined by a serpent, (or two serpents, like a caduceus) with the snake's head often resting on the lion's head.
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c.a.,

I too have been thinking about the Tower of Babel and how the biblical interpretations are opposite of how the Cs explain what it's real purpose was. It is the same with many other scripture passages that Laura asked about. I do wonder how the crystals will be a connecting tool for the forum. I am also thinking about this session's question by Laura on Zoroastrianism. The connection with Zoroastrianism and it's connection to Akhenaten is really interesting.

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
Is there any possibility that Akhenaten was influenced by Zoroastrianism? Is that a possibility?

A: Not just a possibility, but a certainty.

The pictures of the Lion headed Mithraic religion images is another connection I have been wondering about. Also the the snake/2-snakes wrapping around the figures makes me think of the possible DNA strand connection. Mithraism was also mentioned in the history thread when talking about Caesar and his armies. Mithraism seems to be one of the most "illusive" ones to find details in history.

Another kind of religious reversal example relates to the "illusion" vs "delusion" question:

2 Thessalonians 2:11King James Version (KJV)

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

The Cs actually seem to be using this meaning rather than the dictionary definition. However the usual application of this verse is to reinforce the traditional Christian dogma for the "true God". So, it comes back to "will the real lier please stand up".

If you consider what Laura describes as the character of Yahweh in SHOTW it does seem like Yahweh would not have much hesitation to "send them strong delusion". Seems a bit STS doesn't it?

The sending of "delusion" would agree with the Cs definition of delusion being more an external influence I think.
 
Odyssey said:
Thanks for the session. I thought that the definitions of illusion and delusion were opposite of what the C's gave, but thanks Joe for further explanation. It makes more sense now.

I found the bit about Killary interesting. If we are going to be subjected to that thing being president it's nice to know that we'll have a little entertainment witnessing her brain glitches.

Calling Killary a Thing has left a strong impression on me, because Recently I've been reading the memoir Operators and Things, and the notion of Hillary quite literally being purposefully being broken down into a puppet by damaging her brain is quite prevalent in the book. Comparing her to the Rothschilds and Soroses and Rockefellers of the world it seems like some STS people are maintained and others are "adjusted" to be under more sourdough control. I wonder if this has to do with some of these highly STS people being psychopaths and others simply being souled humans who choose STS. Psychopaths have a limited shrug life failed OPs but I beings need to learn more lessons to be useful to the consortium later on in other lives, maybe. Food for thought.

Getting the 6 immortals from the unity consciousness could happen a variety of ways. In G's take on the hydrogens, H1 (particle of the absolute) becomes H3 (presumably the 3 forces), then becomes H6. Combinatorially, 3! is 6, so the 3 forces may relate to one another in a total of 6 ways. Afterward the hydrogens merely begin doubling (H12, H24, etc), so I wonder if at H6 the "dialogue between the names of God" begins (as described by Ibn Al Arabi), which produces the opposition between STS and STO. So 2 H6 forces (generated from particular combinations of the 3 forces) interact, which may produce either understanding (STO) or confusion (STS), requiring further "dialogue" and so the H12 produced by 6H STS further seeks understanding and networks with others at its level (other H12). This may "solve" the initial confusion and so double in vibration with the force of its new knowledge and awareness and so return to H6. Alternatively it may lead to confusion and so require more deliberation and so continues on to H24, and so on until we get to the experiment that is planet earth.

An alternative means of understanding the 6 could b the prime creature splitting into being and non-being. These two forces or means of organizing information again dialogue with one another with certain results. The results can ultimately be seen as the result. The same math ultimately occurs as above, so the distinction between being and non-being and particular forces may be academic. Then again, what do I know?

Edit: obviously H6 is double 3, so it's possible the STS and STO distinction begins at instead of 6. Perhaps there's another reason they chose 6 over 3.
 
whitecoast said:
Odyssey said:
Thanks for the session. I thought that the definitions of illusion and delusion were opposite of what the C's gave, but thanks Joe for further explanation. It makes more sense now.

I found the bit about Killary interesting. If we are going to be subjected to that thing being president it's nice to know that we'll have a little entertainment witnessing her brain glitches.

Calling Killary a Thing has left a strong impression on me, because Recently I've been reading the memoir Operators and Things, and the notion of Hillary quite literally being purposefully being broken down into a puppet by damaging her brain is quite prevalent in the book. Comparing her to the Rothschilds and Soroses and Rockefellers of the world it seems like some STS people are maintained and others are "adjusted" to be under more sourdough control. I wonder if this has to do with some of these highly STS people being psychopaths and others simply being souled humans who choose STS. Psychopaths have a limited shrug life failed OPs but I beings need to learn more lessons to be useful to the consortium later on in other lives, maybe. Food for thought.

Getting the 6 immortals from the unity consciousness could happen a variety of ways. In G's take on the hydrogens, H1 (particle of the absolute) becomes H3 (presumably the 3 forces), then becomes H6. Combinatorially, 3! is 6, so the 3 forces may relate to one another in a total of 6 ways. Afterward the hydrogens merely begin doubling (H12, H24, etc), so I wonder if at H6 the "dialogue between the names of God" begins (as described by Ibn Al Arabi), which produces the opposition between STS and STO. So 2 H6 forces (generated from particular combinations of the 3 forces) interact, which may produce either understanding (STO) or confusion (STS), requiring further "dialogue" and so the H12 produced by 6H STS further seeks understanding and networks with others at its level (other H12). This may "solve" the initial confusion and so double in vibration with the force of its new knowledge and awareness and so return to H6. Alternatively it may lead to confusion and so require more deliberation and so continues on to H24, and so on until we get to the experiment that is planet earth.

An alternative means of understanding the 6 could b the prime creature splitting into being and non-being. These two forces or means of organizing information again dialogue with one another with certain results. The results can ultimately be seen as the result. The same math ultimately occurs as above, so the distinction between being and non-being and particular forces may be academic. Then again, what do I know?

Edit: obviously H6 is double 3, so it's possible the STS and STO distinction begins at instead of 6. Perhaps there's another reason they chose 6 over 3.

whitecoast,

I am not sure what you mean by "Getting the 6 immortals from the unity consciousness could happen a variety of ways.".

The session only says:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
Q: (L) And this same religion, either in its older form or its later elaboration by Zarathushtra, was the origin of the ideas of free will?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Of savior gods?

A: Yes

Q: (L) The Six Bounteous Immortals, or I guess what we could say archetypes or sixth density?

A: Yes

It doesn't say we "get" these immortals or become these archetypes. As for the Gurdjieff hydrogen numbering, I find it mostly gives me a "brain glitch" to try to figure out what he meant.

As for "getting" any growth from lessons I don't think there is a short cut. I don't think it is a "free lunch".

Session 21 December 1996
Q: (A) Are there some particular DNA sequences that facilitate
transmission between densities?
A: Addition of strands.
Q: (L) How do you get added strands?
A: You don't get, you receive.
Q: (L) Where are they received from?
A: Interaction with upcoming wave, if vibration is aligned.
Q: (L) How do you know if this is happening?
A: Psychophysiological changes manifest.
 
Chu said:
Catalyst said:
Have ALL the crystals been sent? I requested one, but moved. So I am NOT sure if I was selected to get one or it just got lost in the mail?? :huh:

They have not all been sent, no. There are still many orders to be fulfilled. But if your address has changed, PLEASE send us an email with the new one. You are on the waiting list, so it's not too late to change it.

Are you, or could you send out an email at the time of shipping so we can be looking for them?
 
Thank you for the session.
I was wondering about the crystals myself, as I haven't received any yet.

an unusual thing happened just as I was reading "Q: (L) And we are in a realm of almost complete abstraction, and therefore we have a name that is completely abstract and unpronounceable? [laughter]" I heard a loud bang in my kitchen (same room as my livingroom where I am reading this) and went over to look. It sounded as if something had fallen onto my kitchen tiles, but I searched and could not find anything, and I looked at my open cupboard doors and could not see anything amiss. very strange. It is possible that it was a sound from the oven as an EE friend came over and we are making pork rinds, which are drying in the oven now. ho! just found it, a friend (who committed suicide this past winter) had given me a painting he'd done which I had hanging on a tack in my wall, it fell and hit the floor. Maybe he was talking to me.

Sometimes I don't know the direction or reason for some of Laura's research, but then the info on Zurvan, Zoroaster, Zarathushtra and the evolution/corruption of the information, brings it into focus. Thank you Laura, and the C's, and all.

And for what Galatea said about sensing the intentions or thoughts of others, I too feel (unless, unlike Galatea, I really am crazy) that that often is the case with me, it is almost like sensing an aura or cloud of information sometimes, other times it is like picking up thoughts or intentions that are not sensed but experienced. I think this happens for others also, and my EE friend were just talking about psychic experiences tonight. (and I just explained it better here than I did to him) I've had EE sessions with the group that felt like there were a lot more participants than just the group!
 
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Michał said:
"A: Illusion is mostly self-generated; delusion is mostly induced from without."

Anyone (native;) can confirm that isn't mistake? I would bet it is opposite...

Well, I think of it this way.
I can be under the delusion that my government is there to look out for me, and that delusion is reinforced by the media and other deluded people.
An illusion is where I am living in my own illusory world brought about by my ignoring the reality around me.
 
After reading this,
"Q: (L) Okay, I've got a paper here... It seems that Zurvan was perceived as the god of infinite time and space, and was described as, "One Alone, a transcendental neutral god, and without passion. One for whom there was no distinction between good and evil. So, Zurvan had a varied history... So, the problem I want to get to right now is the idea that Zurvan was represented as the lion-headed god. There was a lion man figure found in Hohlenstein-Stadel, which is a German cave. It's carved out of ivory, and it's THE oldest known zoomorphic animal sculpture in the world, and the oldest known uncontested example of figurative art. It has been determined to be about - ready? 40,000 years old!! That was by carbon dating the material which was in the same layer where the figure was found. It was associated with the Aurignacian culture and it was 29cm in height, carved out of mammoth ivory using a flint stone knife. Seven parallel, transverse, carved gouges are on the left arm. The figure of Zurvan is often represented with a serpent coiled around him seven times. It is said that the sculpture shares certain similarities with French cave wall paintings which also show hybrid creatures. The Lion man is several thousand years older. Anyhow, this artifact seems to resemble very closely the lion man figure that was described as being the representation of Zurvan. So, I guess my question is: Are we talking about the same religion or religious ideas or perceptions that were common to the cultures that produced the cave art in Western Europe?"

and some connections made by others, I thought of Mithras being similar to Zurvan (the 7 wraps of snakes) and this 40,000 year old lion headed figure(7 marks), and the Sphinx (10.000 years old?) having the body of a lion? Feminine head on a lions body, Lions head on a masculine body. I don't know enough to know if this is a connection, but I thought it was interesting, considering the Akhenaton - Zoroaster connection.

Thanks again for the session.
 
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