Session 14 October 2017
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Thanks for another mind-blowing session ;D
I was never passionate about the cosmology described in the books on Gurdjieff's teachings. However, I assumed the idea that I was not ready to grasp it.
Now it seems to be a bit clearer OSIT. I guess the enneagram / hydrogens / ray of creation and so on would be interpreted as a depiction of the mechanicalness in the 3D mater-r(i)eality sponsored by 4D STS-masters where we are living.
I was never passionate about the cosmology described in the books on Gurdjieff's teachings. However, I assumed the idea that I was not ready to grasp it.
Now it seems to be a bit clearer OSIT. I guess the enneagram / hydrogens / ray of creation and so on would be interpreted as a depiction of the mechanicalness in the 3D mater-r(i)eality sponsored by 4D STS-masters where we are living.
Yet another thank you for an informative and mind blowing session!! 
Yup, same here Tristan. I really struggled with Gurdjieff's cosmology and I thought it was because my little brain was simply not quite there yet :)
And as for the Las Vegas massacre... Fun times indeed
Tristan said:
Yup, same here Tristan. I really struggled with Gurdjieff's cosmology and I thought it was because my little brain was simply not quite there yet :)
And as for the Las Vegas massacre... Fun times indeed
PerfectCircle
Jedi Master
Awesome session!
Thank you all very much!
Thank you all very much!
That was a great session, thank you again for sharing!!
With the issue of chaos, the way things have been further and further intensifying, both on the social and environmental level, you just wonder how much farther this can go before everything starts really falling apart with the mounting pressure, as in that people won't be able to keep living in denial and either start to wake up or collapse in on themselves.
Very wild times ahead!
With the issue of chaos, the way things have been further and further intensifying, both on the social and environmental level, you just wonder how much farther this can go before everything starts really falling apart with the mounting pressure, as in that people won't be able to keep living in denial and either start to wake up or collapse in on themselves.
Very wild times ahead!
Thanks for the session!
It's kind of crazy yet refreshing reading how some of Gurdjieff's ideas and cosmology is being re-evaluated. There were times when reading some of what he said and even how he lived his life at certain periods seemed at odds with what we've learned here on the forum, but we'll all get to travel down that rabbit hole once we get through the books Laura mentioned and each of us can learn from it. I still think he was a remarkable person. His insights into human psychology were phenomenal. It's just too bad that maybe he didn't let his guard down enough to trust more in his students and those around him to create more of that network that we have here and instead was so identified with being a teacher and maintaining that dynamic that he didn't leave enough room for his own errors in thinking and having more faith in the universe and those around him to give him a perspective he might not have thought of on his own. Although I'm just assuming that was the case. After all, the C's did say for us to have faith in one another. And I take faith to be something that exists in the realm beyond psychology and something non-linear that imparts itself in our lives in ways we can never imagine if we are open to receiving it. There's nothing material about it so a material perspective doesn't leave any room for it. And if we are fortunate enough to understand and live with faith in our lives, then we'd actually be dancing with the universe.
Kind of like this ------->
ONLY with bacon (which makes everything better) -------> 
It's kind of crazy yet refreshing reading how some of Gurdjieff's ideas and cosmology is being re-evaluated. There were times when reading some of what he said and even how he lived his life at certain periods seemed at odds with what we've learned here on the forum, but we'll all get to travel down that rabbit hole once we get through the books Laura mentioned and each of us can learn from it. I still think he was a remarkable person. His insights into human psychology were phenomenal. It's just too bad that maybe he didn't let his guard down enough to trust more in his students and those around him to create more of that network that we have here and instead was so identified with being a teacher and maintaining that dynamic that he didn't leave enough room for his own errors in thinking and having more faith in the universe and those around him to give him a perspective he might not have thought of on his own. Although I'm just assuming that was the case. After all, the C's did say for us to have faith in one another. And I take faith to be something that exists in the realm beyond psychology and something non-linear that imparts itself in our lives in ways we can never imagine if we are open to receiving it. There's nothing material about it so a material perspective doesn't leave any room for it. And if we are fortunate enough to understand and live with faith in our lives, then we'd actually be dancing with the universe.
Kind of like this ------->
ONLY with bacon (which makes everything better) -------> 
LIVE from Las Vegas - It's the CHAOS SHOW!!!
Kinda puts a new perspective on the whole 'fake crisis actors' scenario. Suffice to say, I totally loathed Karl Rove long before this nauseatingly arrogant statement of elite hubris. As it is, two surgeons have weighed in on the publicly available videos of the LV shooting via Paul Craig Robert's website:
_https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/09/military-surgeon-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/
[Just to give an idea of how really horrific this mass shooting was for the victims:]
We know now that the cell phones/laptops of the concert goers were wiped; youtube videos & facebook posts have disappeared. Major damage control to preserve the official narrative.
_https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/11/american-trauma-surgeon-responds/
This surgeon's observations also raises unsettling questions which would seem to conflict w/ what one would expect to see in a real event - questions that I can't rationalize as I do believe real people were killed & injured w/ at least one video evidence plus survivor accounts. I can only speculate that the discrepancies are due to this perhaps being a 'capstone' event and that actions were put into play to ensure the desired result/effect/illusion? The article goes on to postulate a couple of very plausible reasons for this awful attack.
One thing Trump (and really, his name - just coincidence?!) has achieved is to seed into the public consciousness the concept of fake news - that the media is lying on an unprecedented scale. People are finally starting to question the 'facts' they are being told. Of course, it helps that they've screwed it up so badly! Yeah - chaos works both ways!
As for observations of crazy/reckless driving and unusual animal behavior, I witnessed both this past week. I haven't been going out much, but two appts put me on two separate local roads - one 2-lane & one 4-lane. On both occasions I encountered drivers blatantly speeding in a very unsafe manner - I wondered whether one case was a teenager who simply didn't appreciate the danger being caused. And, on two separate nights, my dog was up in the middle of the night clearly restlessly agitated - getting on and off the bed repeatedly w/o any indication of what he wanted or needed. Thinking he might need to go out, hubby took him outside but he didn't go until after hubby made it clear he wasn't going for a midnight stroll! He totally disrupted our sleep both nights.
Regrettably, I read a recent article on Sott re the horrendous treatment of pigs by industrial farming operations, an outrageously inhumane/torturous confinement of pregnant sows. I usually don't read animal abuse accounts or watch videos of such as the images produced just sear into my brain - I can't unsee them and the level of abuse being depicted absolutely haunts me. I just can't imagine anyone inflicting such a horrible torture on any creature, much less one w/ high intelligence. What was told just made me sick and I can't forget it. But then, that just means more 'food for the moon' being generated and perhaps the real purpose of all the horror being inflicted on animals and people worldwide.
Thanks for the session and revealing details of the Vegas false flag.
Kinda puts a new perspective on the whole 'fake crisis actors' scenario. Suffice to say, I totally loathed Karl Rove long before this nauseatingly arrogant statement of elite hubris. As it is, two surgeons have weighed in on the publicly available videos of the LV shooting via Paul Craig Robert's website:
_https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/09/military-surgeon-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/
[Just to give an idea of how really horrific this mass shooting was for the victims:]
We know now that the cell phones/laptops of the concert goers were wiped; youtube videos & facebook posts have disappeared. Major damage control to preserve the official narrative.
_https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/11/american-trauma-surgeon-responds/
This surgeon's observations also raises unsettling questions which would seem to conflict w/ what one would expect to see in a real event - questions that I can't rationalize as I do believe real people were killed & injured w/ at least one video evidence plus survivor accounts. I can only speculate that the discrepancies are due to this perhaps being a 'capstone' event and that actions were put into play to ensure the desired result/effect/illusion? The article goes on to postulate a couple of very plausible reasons for this awful attack.
One thing Trump (and really, his name - just coincidence?!) has achieved is to seed into the public consciousness the concept of fake news - that the media is lying on an unprecedented scale. People are finally starting to question the 'facts' they are being told. Of course, it helps that they've screwed it up so badly! Yeah - chaos works both ways!
As for observations of crazy/reckless driving and unusual animal behavior, I witnessed both this past week. I haven't been going out much, but two appts put me on two separate local roads - one 2-lane & one 4-lane. On both occasions I encountered drivers blatantly speeding in a very unsafe manner - I wondered whether one case was a teenager who simply didn't appreciate the danger being caused. And, on two separate nights, my dog was up in the middle of the night clearly restlessly agitated - getting on and off the bed repeatedly w/o any indication of what he wanted or needed. Thinking he might need to go out, hubby took him outside but he didn't go until after hubby made it clear he wasn't going for a midnight stroll! He totally disrupted our sleep both nights.
Regrettably, I read a recent article on Sott re the horrendous treatment of pigs by industrial farming operations, an outrageously inhumane/torturous confinement of pregnant sows. I usually don't read animal abuse accounts or watch videos of such as the images produced just sear into my brain - I can't unsee them and the level of abuse being depicted absolutely haunts me. I just can't imagine anyone inflicting such a horrible torture on any creature, much less one w/ high intelligence. What was told just made me sick and I can't forget it. But then, that just means more 'food for the moon' being generated and perhaps the real purpose of all the horror being inflicted on animals and people worldwide.
Thanks for the session and revealing details of the Vegas false flag.
Thanks for the session!
Had to grin at this point:
The 'craziness pressure' of drivers has increased a whole lot in less than a month here... I've never seen people being so angry and faulty; that was an odd spike indeed, between August and September and on. It's as they forgot about their driving license and simple traffic rules, point blank, in few days, and got really mad at it. I thought it was the just about hot weather at first.
Thanks for the G's and Las Vegas chaos updates.
Had to grin at this point:
The 'craziness pressure' of drivers has increased a whole lot in less than a month here... I've never seen people being so angry and faulty; that was an odd spike indeed, between August and September and on. It's as they forgot about their driving license and simple traffic rules, point blank, in few days, and got really mad at it. I thought it was the just about hot weather at first.
Thanks for the G's and Las Vegas chaos updates.
[quote author= Hello H2O]Bjorn, I think that what you highlight speaks to different levels of control.[/quote]
It is and frankly, we don’t know anything about them and I might have a few things wrong. (Could look the sessions for the details)
But I believe the C's were talking about the transnational human elites who are stateless and answer to no country. They seem to be the true ''illuminati'' and keep the world hostage with their technology.
If you are interested, the only times they ever seem to show their fingerprints is whenever they put their tech to use.
For example: During 9/11 (destruction of the twin towers) Judy Wood explained this tech somewhat, Or Laura's article right here: https://www.sott.net/article/139903-Ultra-terrestrials-and-9-11
When they shot down the Columbia space shuttle in 2003. (There is a session about it and interesting articles that talks about the possible use of a space based weapon)
And perhaps Joe's article here: https://joequinn.net/2015/11/08/was-an-exotic-energy-weapon-used-to-down-russian-plane-in-sinai/
The C’s refer to them as the consortium. If we can believe the sessions, they also have the tech to cause earthquakes. (+ Hugo Chavez mentioned once that the US is capable of doing so)
There isn’t a lot we know about them. But it’s my impression from going through the sessions that they take their orders from 4STS. Perhaps even directly?
Luckily, the C’s also said that Russia has similar technology to counter the Imperial menace. Anyhow, the whole PTB hierarchy on every layer seem to be kept in check through fear (And promise of power and monetary gain). Not out of loyality.
Anyhow, I might get a bit of track here concerning the discussion that surrounds this session. But we don't speak about them that often.
[quote author= Hello H2O]You could say that these types of mass shootings and such are to create fear and chaos in the general population. But also to solidify their power and control over the lesser levels of the PTB.[/quote]
That session I reffered to me kind of shocked me. Because it showed that they will not ever stop. I guess it’s thrilling for them to cause chaos knowing that they can get away with it. And even if they manage to conquer the whole planet. They will still continue on with their genocidal and pathological agenda.
They will turn the whole planet and humanity into their own playground. If we let it, they will torture us forever. It's not just about showing who is in control, but out of the sheer joy they get out of it.
It is and frankly, we don’t know anything about them and I might have a few things wrong. (Could look the sessions for the details)
But I believe the C's were talking about the transnational human elites who are stateless and answer to no country. They seem to be the true ''illuminati'' and keep the world hostage with their technology.
If you are interested, the only times they ever seem to show their fingerprints is whenever they put their tech to use.
For example: During 9/11 (destruction of the twin towers) Judy Wood explained this tech somewhat, Or Laura's article right here: https://www.sott.net/article/139903-Ultra-terrestrials-and-9-11
When they shot down the Columbia space shuttle in 2003. (There is a session about it and interesting articles that talks about the possible use of a space based weapon)
And perhaps Joe's article here: https://joequinn.net/2015/11/08/was-an-exotic-energy-weapon-used-to-down-russian-plane-in-sinai/
The C’s refer to them as the consortium. If we can believe the sessions, they also have the tech to cause earthquakes. (+ Hugo Chavez mentioned once that the US is capable of doing so)
There isn’t a lot we know about them. But it’s my impression from going through the sessions that they take their orders from 4STS. Perhaps even directly?
Luckily, the C’s also said that Russia has similar technology to counter the Imperial menace. Anyhow, the whole PTB hierarchy on every layer seem to be kept in check through fear (And promise of power and monetary gain). Not out of loyality.
Anyhow, I might get a bit of track here concerning the discussion that surrounds this session. But we don't speak about them that often.
[quote author= Hello H2O]You could say that these types of mass shootings and such are to create fear and chaos in the general population. But also to solidify their power and control over the lesser levels of the PTB.[/quote]
That session I reffered to me kind of shocked me. Because it showed that they will not ever stop. I guess it’s thrilling for them to cause chaos knowing that they can get away with it. And even if they manage to conquer the whole planet. They will still continue on with their genocidal and pathological agenda.
They will turn the whole planet and humanity into their own playground. If we let it, they will torture us forever. It's not just about showing who is in control, but out of the sheer joy they get out of it.
riclapaz
Dagobah Resident
Hi everyone, thanks for sharing this session
After reading the session repeatedly, I would like to come up with some ideas, please take them with a pinch of salt, and a little patience, i really have faith in the process:
If I had to put a name to this session, for me it would be a MIRROR session, mainly for Laura and the group, who are the ones who would take the responsibility of the conduit to SAO, it seems to me that the hidden message could start with the greeting, similar salutation and I have not found it (it is appreciated if someone is kind enough to find it) it is as if another energy were present, some answers seem that they were already in the subconscious of the present and were not the Cs who were giving the answers:
In many cultures cats are represented as beings who see everything, does it seem that the cat really felt something "evil" in the house?
I think this point is quite important for the work of this forum.
The game becomes more and more interesting, if it is not certain that it is SAO, is it possible that the contact is with SAS ? Or a combination of both?
And this includes us all.
And if we continue incarnated here, apparently there are still more lessons to learn.
Without the help of the Cs, would I really follow the ego so high in us? If we remove the Cs, what's left? what would be the lesson?
Has anyone noticed that they are giving the same answer from the start?
And again the same answer? If I dream of a demon, I would be looking for something more than just say that they are the energies of chaos, that would be to enter a bubble where only angels exist and demons never exist?
We are supposed to be experiencing duality in incarnations, that is, the battle between "good" and "evil" is always in us, if at certain moments we lose the battle and it is the evil who wins, as would be the answers given by the Cs, what orientation would the Cs be? Even further away who would be giving the answers? I ask because there are several clues on this, for example Barbara Marcianick, that the Cs confirmed that they were no longer with her what would be the reason?
After reading the session repeatedly, I would like to come up with some ideas, please take them with a pinch of salt, and a little patience, i really have faith in the process:
If I had to put a name to this session, for me it would be a MIRROR session, mainly for Laura and the group, who are the ones who would take the responsibility of the conduit to SAO, it seems to me that the hidden message could start with the greeting, similar salutation and I have not found it (it is appreciated if someone is kind enough to find it) it is as if another energy were present, some answers seem that they were already in the subconscious of the present and were not the Cs who were giving the answers:
Laura said:
Laura said:
In many cultures cats are represented as beings who see everything, does it seem that the cat really felt something "evil" in the house?
Laura said:
I think this point is quite important for the work of this forum.
I wonder if there is any type of "shielding" when making contact with the Cs, ie the contact can be made for either side, for both SAS or SAO?Laura said:
The game becomes more and more interesting, if it is not certain that it is SAO, is it possible that the contact is with SAS ? Or a combination of both?
Laura said:
And this includes us all.
Laura said:
And if we continue incarnated here, apparently there are still more lessons to learn.
Laura said:
Without the help of the Cs, would I really follow the ego so high in us? If we remove the Cs, what's left? what would be the lesson?
Laura said:
Has anyone noticed that they are giving the same answer from the start?
Laura said:
And again the same answer? If I dream of a demon, I would be looking for something more than just say that they are the energies of chaos, that would be to enter a bubble where only angels exist and demons never exist?
Laura said:
We are supposed to be experiencing duality in incarnations, that is, the battle between "good" and "evil" is always in us, if at certain moments we lose the battle and it is the evil who wins, as would be the answers given by the Cs, what orientation would the Cs be? Even further away who would be giving the answers? I ask because there are several clues on this, for example Barbara Marcianick, that the Cs confirmed that they were no longer with her what would be the reason?
Thank you for sharing!
I've also noticed disappearing things but I toughed that I'm just with head in the clouds and not seeing right.
I.e. going to the table knowing that I've put something there - and it wasn't there; turn the house upside down to find it and after 5-10mins I look back - and there it is, the thing I'm looking for, right where I've put it in the first place.....
I was even joking every time with my man that things are dropping in another dimension and come back....
I've also noticed disappearing things but I toughed that I'm just with head in the clouds and not seeing right.
I.e. going to the table knowing that I've put something there - and it wasn't there; turn the house upside down to find it and after 5-10mins I look back - and there it is, the thing I'm looking for, right where I've put it in the first place.....
I was even joking every time with my man that things are dropping in another dimension and come back....
