Pashalis said:
Laura said:
Eboard10 said:
Laura said:
As for the Hillary/Trump thing, it seems hard to grok any rational purpose to bringing Hillary down from inside her own organization; or that it would be permitted by the war hawks or media which are obviously totally behind her. Well, I was thinking back over some things the Cs said and some things that Ra said a long time ago. Cs basically said that the turmoil that was coming was designed to get people to accept totalitarian dominance. Ra said something about it being necessary for the masses to CHOOSE and that the STS have to manipulate acceptance to come out openly. Something along that line, anyway. Maybe somebody can find the passage. So, what if Trump is that totalitarian ruler that the masses have to choose en masse? What if it is Hillary who is the "really bad choice" that is being put up next to Trump to make him look good? Rather than Trump being put next to Hillary to maker HER look good?
I dunno. It just all seems like something very deeply evil is going on.
Yes, it's hard to see it that way when the mainstream media keeps on demonising Trump so much. The only way I see them supporting Trump is that his overt personality and straightforward talk about "delicate" topics will drive a lot of media attention which can add to
all the current distractions and let the players behind the scenes continue with their imperialistic plans, or so they think. Maybe the war hawks still prefer Hillary to win but think that if Trump were to become the next President they can keep him in line by blackmailing him if necessary. Just a thought.
Well, I thought about that awhile and since the whole country is pretty disgusted with the PTB, maybe this is the way that 4D STS has planned it? Maybe it's like Protocol 12 about the press, only here about politics: they create the opposition that appears in all ways to be legit, but in fact, is just as controlled as the ones we know about.
I don't know if I made that entirely clear, I just don't think that Trump is as much of a thorn in their flesh as they make him out to be. And if the masses, of their own free will, elect him, knowing everything about him that we know, they they have ASKED for whatever comes afterward: blatant fascism, possibly rule by fiat.
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So from my standpoint, the best approach is to watch that election show from a position, as detached as possible from the outside, as a sort of experience or experiment of mass indoctrination of people and to make sure that I don't fall for it as well, since in the end what is at stake probably is my conscience, sanity and soul. Probably also the lives of many innocent people are at stake as well. So I really can't and won't support, or get lured into, that trap.
Regarding watching the election show with a detached mindset, and as the complications of the plot reaches the level of plot twists used in films and novels, I decided to look it up and some of the following twists seem to have parallels in the present campaign.
The Wikipedia has (all the quotes are from the same entry, just broken up for convenience):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_twist said:
"Plot twist
A plot twist is a radical change in the expected direction or outcome of the plot of a novel, film, television series, comic, video game, or other work of narrative.[1] It is a common practice in narration used to keep the interest of an audience, usually surprising them with a revelation. Some "twists" are foreshadowed.
When a plot twist happens near the end of a story, especially if it changes one's view of the preceding events, it is known as a surprise ending.[2] Sometimes people use a plot twist to describe a sudden change of a situation in real life.
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There have been plenty of surprises, and for the bookmakers it would be a sur-price if Hillary Clinton looses http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/bookmakers-pay-out-over-800000-on-hillary-clinton-winning-us-ele/ said:
Irish bookmakers Paddy Power are paying out to customers who backed Hillary Clinton to win the US election, three weeks before Americans go to the polls.
The bookmakers are paying out over £800,000, gambling on Donald Trump’s election campaign being all but finished.
Other bookmakers all make Mrs Clinton the strong favourite.
False protagonist
A method used to undermine the expectations of the audience is the false protagonist. It involves presenting a character at the start of the film as the main character, but then disposing of this character, usually killing them – a device known as a red herring."[...]
If Hillary was all the time a disposable character and somebody else was supported to really win then there is a case of false protagonist.
Anagnorisis
Anagnorisis, or discovery, is the protagonist's sudden recognition of their own or another character's true identity or nature.[6] Through this technique, previously unforeseen character information is revealed. A notable example of anagnorisis occurs in Oedipus Rex: Oedipus kills his father and marries his mother in ignorance, learning the truth only toward the climax of the play.[7]
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Flashback
Flashback, or analepsis, is a sudden, vivid reversion to a past event.[10] It is used to surprise the reader with previously unknown information that provides the answer to a mystery, places a character in a different light, or reveals the reason for a previously inexplicable action.
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I am not sure what to say about the first one, the anagnorisis type of twist plot, although previously unforseen character information has come out about both Killary and Trump. One could hold that the various discovered or released videos, mails and leaks about past deeds and scandals more fit the flashback type of plot twist.
Unreliable narrator
An unreliable narrator twists the ending by revealing, almost always at the end of the narrative, that the narrator has manipulated or fabricated the preceding story, thus forcing the reader to question their prior assumptions about the text.[11] [...]
There is evidence that the narrators of many media outlets are not reliable. Some spectators who have found out might have changed their position.
Peripeteia
Peripeteia is a sudden reversal of the protagonist's fortune, whether for good or ill, that emerges naturally from the character's circumstances.[13] Unlike the deus ex machina device, peripeteia must be logical within the frame of the story. An example of a reversal for ill would be Agamemnon's sudden murder at the hands of his wife Clytemnestra in Aeschylus'
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Peripeteia? Would it be fair to say that the healthproblems and the resulting setback for the campaign that Killary has suffered during the later parts of the campaign could be labled a case of Peripeteia?
Deus ex machina
Deus ex machina is a Latin term meaning "god out of the machine." It refers to an unexpected, artificial or improbable character, device or event introduced suddenly in a work of fiction to resolve a situation or untangle a plot.[14] In Ancient Greek theater, the "deus ex machina" ('ἀπὸ μηχανῆς θεός') was the character of a Greek god literally brought onto the stage via a crane (μηχανῆς—mechanes), after which a seemingly insoluble problem is brought to a satisfactory resolution by the god's will.
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Some archetypical traits are displayed. There is no "Deus ex Machina" at the very most in campaign advertisements.
Poetic justice
Poetic justice is a literary device in which virtue is ultimately rewarded or vice punished in such a way that the reward or punishment has a logical connection to the deed.[15] In modern literature, this device is often used to create an ironic twist of fate in which the villain gets caught up in his/her own trap.
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Killary is possibly closests to be subject to poetic justice, but the race is not yet over.
Red herring
A red herring is a false clue intended to lead investigators toward an incorrect solution.[17] This device usually appears in detective novels and mystery fiction. The red herring is a type of misdirection, a device intended to distract the protagonist, and by extension the reader, away from the correct answer or from the site of pertinent clues or action.
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The whole election two party, two candidate business could be seen as an example of a red herring to direct the attention of the spectator away from what else is going on in the world, the messages of other candidates, like those of Jill Stein for instance.
In medias res
In medias res (Latin for "into the middle of things") is a literary technique in which narrative proceeds from the middle of the story rather than its beginning.[18] Information such as characterization, setting, and motive is revealed through a series of flashbacks. This technique creates a twist when the cause for the inciting incident is not revealed until the climax.
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Besides what I have already commented under flashbacks, I have nothing to add.
Non-linear narrative
A non-linear narrative works by revealing plot and character in non-chronological order.[19] This technique requires the reader to attempt to piece together the timeline in order to fully understand the story. A twist ending can occur as the result of information that is held until the climax and which places characters or events in a different perspective. Some of the earliest known uses of non-linear story telling occur in The Odyssey, a work that is largely told in flashback via the narrator Odysseus.
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One could maintain that the existence of various "forecasts" from both present day and long ago adds to the complexity of a spectator trying to interpret where on the timeline the story is, while taking into account that the timeline is not fixed.
Reverse chronology
Reverse chronology works by revealing the plot in reverse order, i.e., from final event to initial event.[22] Unlike chronological storylines, which progress through causes before reaching a final effect, reverse chronological storylines reveal the final effect before tracing the causes leading up to it; therefore, the initial cause represents a "twist ending".
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This one could be related to the non-linear narrative.
When using a framework such as items from the list of plot twists, usually meant for fiction, for a new case which is not fiction, there is a possibility of over interpreting. The reader will decide.
