I'm just catching up the discussion here and it's been really interesting.
Jennifer said:
Thankyou for the session everyone, Alana and Timotheus I am so sorry to hear about your puppy I hope you are both ok.
I found it very interesting what Andromeda said about dreams and past memories coming up, last night I sang and read to my crystals and had a dream about some people from my past, maybe 5/6 years ago that I had hurt, in the dream I got to see what I did, but had the opportunity to apologize to them. Ever since I received my crystals I have noticed that I can remember my dreams in more detail and they seem to have more depth to them.
Thanks again
I see that many other members have been having this kind of experiences regarding people/issues from the past. I've been having the same. For me it is as if memories have been coming up from times and situations in the past, but they seem to come up in different way, as if they bring more understanding, forgiveness and also lessons that can be learn from each of them.
I also had a dream similar to the one you tell. It was about a group of girlfriends at school and it was truly amazing to me because it was almost if I dreamed about each of the them and saw them from a different perspective which I could never see before. I saw them in a more compassionate way, as if I could understand where they where coming from when they did some things that hurt me, and so I could understand and forgive them. And I could also understand how I could have hurt them in some instances. It was a liberating dream.
Alana said:
Anam Cara said:
What is distressing is the thought that it was because of our mismatched frequencies that resulted in his untimely passing. He was only 6 months old and I wonder what kind of long and happy life he might have had if his was paired with a more suitable family. It goes to show how a lack of awareness can quickly turn to disaster and we must bear responsibility for that.
I don't think you ought to feel too guilty about this Tim. Hugs to you and Alana
. It does seem to raise the issue as to what our real intentions are in making such decisions perhaps? Is it to make us feel wanted and needed or are we truly acting in the best interests of the pet concerned? It may take a period of time to determine if there are any incompatibility issues (mismatched frequencies), then the lesson would seem to be in finding a new home for our pet, despite any sense of attachment we may feel towards it?
Ysus said:
Thank you for the session and so sorry to hear about the dog's passing. Interesting that you both thought of taking the dog back initially. Reminds me to pay attention to warning signs, which often occur early in situations.
Yes, we did both voice on a couple of occasions at the beginning that he might have been more than we could handle, but instead of listening to each other and this internal voice, we listened to the other one that said, "we will try harder, if we are presented with this challenge we have to face it, it is perhaps another lesson we have to learn". Thinking of taking him back was felt as doing him disservice. But it was disservice to him that we kept him, because we did not consider the real needs he had or that we would not be able to meet them. A lesson still.
adam7117 said:
As you well know, our existence here, by its very definition is filled with lapses of awareness and this is how we learn and grow. Otherwise, we would be in a different density. Those lessons are valuable and may even help others in their struggles - in fact, this is happening right now and your lesson is having an impact on the rest of the group; we are all learning from this.
That's the only thing that gives me some hope from this event. It is an invaluable lesson, a lesson I don't wish on any of you. I am very sad to hear that two of our members also face now a similar situation. I only hope that you all learn along with us, and if our very painful lesson prevents such a situation from happening again, then our puppy's untimely death was not in vain.
Thank you all for your support.
I'm so sorry for your loss Alana and Timótheos, I can imagine what a sad experience this is and certainly a hard lesson to learn. But it's true, thanks to this very sad experience, we all have a little more awareness on something that we could not imagine (or at least I couldn't).
Since I read the session, I have been wondering whether I'm a good match for the new puppy I've got or not. And what you wrote above rings a bell for me. I've been wanting to have a dog for a while, but I always thought that considering how busy I am and that I live in a very small place, it wouldn't be good for a dog to live with me. After some time of considering the idea, I finally decided that I wanted a dog and so I was looking for one and I started scanning some websites where people offer dogs for adoption. I decided to wait some more, but then I saw the picture of a puppy with a sign saying "adopt me, I'm already big", and I decided I wanted to adopt it.
Honestly, I doubted from the very beginning, because I still doubt that a dog can be happy in a small place with a busy person that won't be able to play all the time and all that. Sometimes I still feel that way, although she seems to be quite happy. She's 2 months old and has been with me for 3 weeks, yet, she lets me know when she wants to go potty from the very beginning, she sits when I say sit and stays when I say stay. She's very friendly with everyone, especially children, but she's very afraid of other dogs. She's super affectionate as well.
But still, I can't help but wonder if it is the right place for her. I've been thinking that, even though she learns quite fast and she seems to cause little trouble, she does ask for attention and I start to worry about being able to give her the attention she needs. Then I say "ok, this is just a challenge that I must deal with and I will learn something valuable", just as you said. Also, she's so young, she will require more attention now that she's a puppy and that's part of the experience. Another thing, I tend to be a worrier, so sometimes I think I'm just worrying too much... she's fine. But, again, how do we know for sure?
So, considering this, I think this lesson it's also about learning to "read" the subtle messages in reality. What I realise is that it is indeed very difficult because many things get mixed up. I my case, my worrier tendency can be at play, but it can also be awareness that in fact it isn't the best place for her. Then emotions get mixed up since we become attached and we want to try to give the best we can. Well... I guess that can be extrapolated to many other areas of life where it becomes hard to see things as they are because we aren't aware enough... and this is where networking is sooooooo important. So this is one of the things I'm already learning thanks to this experience with Leia, my puppy, and your experience. Still trying to figure out what is best, though.
I hope that you find the right companion for you.
Pashalis said:
Laura said:
Eboard10 said:
Laura said:
As for the Hillary/Trump thing, it seems hard to grok any rational purpose to bringing Hillary down from inside her own organization; or that it would be permitted by the war hawks or media which are obviously totally behind her. Well, I was thinking back over some things the Cs said and some things that Ra said a long time ago. Cs basically said that the turmoil that was coming was designed to get people to accept totalitarian dominance. Ra said something about it being necessary for the masses to CHOOSE and that the STS have to manipulate acceptance to come out openly. Something along that line, anyway. Maybe somebody can find the passage. So, what if Trump is that totalitarian ruler that the masses have to choose en masse? What if it is Hillary who is the "really bad choice" that is being put up next to Trump to make him look good? Rather than Trump being put next to Hillary to maker HER look good?
I dunno. It just all seems like something very deeply evil is going on.
Yes, it's hard to see it that way when the mainstream media keeps on demonising Trump so much. The only way I see them supporting Trump is that his overt personality and straightforward talk about "delicate" topics will drive a lot of media attention which can add to
all the current distractions and let the players behind the scenes continue with their imperialistic plans, or so they think. Maybe the war hawks still prefer Hillary to win but think that if Trump were to become the next President they can keep him in line by blackmailing him if necessary. Just a thought.
Well, I thought about that awhile and since the whole country is pretty disgusted with the PTB, maybe this is the way that 4D STS has planned it? Maybe it's like Protocol 12 about the press, only here about politics: they create the opposition that appears in all ways to be legit, but in fact, is just as controlled as the ones we know about.
I don't know if I made that entirely clear, I just don't think that Trump is as much of a thorn in their flesh as they make him out to be. And if the masses, of their own free will, elect him, knowing everything about him that we know, they they have ASKED for whatever comes afterward: blatant fascism, possibly rule by fiat.
I also get that feeling. I think what it comes down to is what Pierre posted
here. It is a battle for our minds, or more explicitly for our sanity. I mean the situation has gotton so bad in the US (and the rest of the western world, at least), that we are on a point now where people actually start to rally and believe in a guy like Trump (although there is plenty of evidence that points to a quite pathological person) because they think that this is a good decision in order that Killary doesn't get (s)elected.
Although that might be partly true, since the empire can be more easily exposed by a guy like Trump "on top", I think it is fairly dangerous to watch his speeches, debates and actions without a detached point of view, since you start to find yourself getting pushed to root for a guy like that.
I personally would never in good conscience vote for Trump, let alone support anything he says, since it seems to me that this election is designed (from 4D maybe) for people to excuse and support pathology on a mass scale, and/or as you suggested above, support the totalitarian rule.
Just look at "his" vice president "choice" Mike Pence. He is obviously a typical neocon type person, like Dick Cheney. That says a lot IMO.
If it is essentially a battle for our minds and sanity (which it very much looks like), we should IMO be very careful on what we actually "support", excuse or root for there. It might even be a big soul/energy hunt we witness there, that is designed to lure people into a pathological mindset, that is best described by Lobaczewski in his book "Political Ponerology".
So from my standpoint, the best approach is to watch that election show from a position, as detached as possible from the outside, as a sort of experience or experiment of mass indoctrination of people and to make sure that I don't fall for it as well, since in the end what is at stake probably is my conscience, sanity and soul. Probably also the lives of many innocent people are at stake as well. So I really can't and won't support, or get lured into, that trap.
Pashalis said:
Neil said:
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Since I work for county government, I usually vote because I have skin in the game so to speak. If you're going to vote, might as well fill in all of the boxes or someone else will. I considered voting for Trump, since it seems he will be used as a force for good in the grand scheme of things more or less unconsciously, but I maintain that in any sort of sane world someone like Trump would be nowhere near the presidency. [...]
Yes it is very strange that we have gotten to a point, that actually voting for a obviously pathological person (be it narcissistic, or worse) maybe could be considered to be a good thing from a broader perspective, because it increases the chances that the system will collapse faster through that grand stupidity "on top", while making it clear to most of the world what US and their shadow people really are, through smart actions of people and networks in key positions that have a conscience and are willing to use this to the advantage of humanity.
That whole situation is utterly and completely bizarre.
I agree.
It's another lesson of how much careful we must be and to check ourselves before jumping into conclusions. I was one that was starting to think about the idea that if Trump wins, things could get better than if Hillary wins. But then I read Laura's post about the possibility of Hillary being used to make Trump win and it does make sense to me. It all seems so confusing but when you see it from that perspective it actually makes some more sense... yet we still can't jump to conclusions, so we must "wait and see"... and either alternative seems to be better than the other in reality.
Divide By Zero said:
I was explaining the dynastic cycle and the dragons (comets) that come about the end of a cycle and I had a confusing time loop come up.
We have the cycles, coming up to where corruption is rampant. Then the comets come and clean house, for the birth of a new cycle.
It's been known that there is a 7200 year cycle with 3600 and 1800 year mini cycles as found in history / ice cores etc.
There's a set cycle of time when the Oort Cloud brings swarms of comets into our area. That is set in time.
However, somehow humanity mirrors this at the right time- becomes corrupt and brings its own destruction.
That was kind of confusing. If societies brought it upon them, how did it time with these cycles? Coincidence? I don't think so...
Remember the experiments on humans with electromagnetism? They could get people to go crazy in an isolated room, messing with the electrical fields.
Same for animals who can sense a storm or earthquake before it happens (due to electrical/magnetic changes).
The electric universe theory states that the universe is NOT electrically neutral. Bodies have charges and discharges in interactions with other bodies.
So, if this cycle comes about and brings electrical (and in result magnetic and ?gravitational? changes), the cycle itself could be inducing this chinese dynastic cycle! So, perhaps it's the environment that allows for this manipulation and corruption to build up and come to the boiling point as it has and will happen.
I don't see how it connects to the 309,000 year grand cycle though. But what a thought, that the cometary cycle could be the cause of the growing insanity and disconnect in this world! Like the movie Inception has kicks to exit dreams, could this cycle be a "kick" out of this dream we call 3d for those aware and listening?
Very interesting questions and remarks DBZ. It makes me think of the concept of General Law. Maybe this is how it manifests in a way. It's as if everything is actually connected throughout the cosmos and this cycles happen for a reason... maybe it is about recycling, expanding, contracting... Some move on, some stay, some get recycled. I don't know. These are ideas that are hard to grasp for me, but it's what I thought when reading your post.
Thanks for the session!!
