Session 22 September 2018

[Ant22]

Okay, but you were quite disrespectful, and still didn't answer any questions. I think that you would do better not posting for a while and instead, reading The Wave. And once again, getting familiarized with the forum's rules and mode of interacting with each other.

I am sorry if you have that opinion, as my intention wasn't to be disrespectful. I think it is a misunderstanding.

I answer to the questions. IF there is some I didn't, please let me know, and I will answer. thx

As about posting on Forum, if you check my account you will see that last few years I am mostly reading and very rarely asking questions if I don't understand something, and that is what I did now, and I get the answer and guidance where to look for more information, and thank you all for that.

Hi solarmind, I think the questions you didn't answer that Chu referred to are the ones in Laura's post below. Many of them, if not all, will be answered as you re-read the Wave so it may be useful to look out for sections where those topics are covered.

And who is this "Jesus" you speak of? And what is this "unconditional love" the alleged Jesus was promoting? Do you have a direct quote on that?

Your question is logically inconsistent. If window-fallers are part of a show to keep people scared and under control, then wouldn't the most logical thing be to learn about such manifestations, what they mean, how they operate, and how to deal with them?

You think the only thing you are supposed to "witness" is "unconditional love" and anything else is STS and fearful?

How much of The Wave have you read? I deal with a LOT of this sort of thing there, including "fear of the unknown." The entire series is free, online. The Wave Volume 1 | Cassiopaea

It seems to me that only wanting to witness "love" and "warm and fuzzy" things amounts to shutting out fully half of all existence, trying to make reality go away.

 

[Curious Beagle]

Why is it a little difference in opinion always blew up into big argument? Bad beagle would like to take a shot and answer the logical argument in the name of unconditional love (actually I wrote one long answer to that in stalking-intent-and-the-energy-of-alignment). Here it goes as we are aware that the reason that the "fall" occurred is because fallen spirit broke spiritual laws and we need to relearn that to get back to heaven (7 density/prime creator who design spiritual law/cause&effect and coding to genetics). The Cs are 6th density or often refer to as god (their duty is to provide light/star or help advise lower density spirits) but they can't really enter material world due to mismatch in vibration. Naturally the duty goes to 4th density sto graduate to help lower density while in material world. Sts 4d don't help other sts they go straight to sts dimension to perfect their negative vibration, helping is bad for sts will turn them into sto or lower density sts. Technically all prophet are here to teach unconditional love so solarmind is correct in this regard (I explained basic spiritual laws in soul shattering). C mentioned before not to have aggression toward sts (even moralizing against them) and the best defense is knowledge or raising your spiritual vibration.
I understand that some spirits are very angry at the darkness/light in our world (usually rebelling teenage spirit about to choose side) but learning about defense against dark art doesn't really make you expert in light therefore those prophets were sent here on mission to give example. If we reflect in our world we often hate dictators and hell bent to overthrow them just to be replace by other dictators. Because you are an anti darkness expert doesn't automatically make you a light worker unless you choose the light path (who wouldn't want to role play as dictator you get to spank porn star like stable genius). That is why the best way to remove evil from this world start with raising our own vibration with purification and self development (during harvest time it is all that matter). If you remove all the darkness inside of you (learning your spiritual lesson equal knowledge such as cruelty, laziness, aggression, vanity, lust etc different case for each spirit) then there is no need for your spirit to summon the lesson aka crisis (which spirit hate& try to avoid) making the world a better place with you as a beacon of light in a dark world. I hope this help in a way of discussion not meant to offend anyone.

 

[Cosmos]

Thanks for the session and I haven't read all the replies yet. Hadn't seen any reports of what happened in Siberia. Strange times but good to recognise that these realms exist even though I have a very limited understanding of other realms. Thank you all.

Here is the thread that talks about that phenomena that happened in Siberia. Apparently an area the size of Italy was affected by it!

 

[mrtn]

About the Bell Witch..
So the first 'Kate' mentioned is just the human wife of 'Dean'. And all the other 'Kate' is the mostly invisible but audible spirit? No wonder I'm confused

 

[aragorn]

A belated thank you for the session!

Some 'thinking out loud' here...

Regarding 'Q' and related stuff, there was a recent interview on 'Lift The Veil' with someone called Steve Outtrim. While I don't agree with all the things this Steve said (and I didn't have the time to watch the whole thing), their discussion and Nathan's questions were stimulating. Steve brought up this theory, that 'Q' could possibly be the guy (with others involved) who set up and also manages Trump's twitter. That would at least explain the 'proof' that has been presented in the Q-community about how 'Q' and 'Trump' often tweet simultaneously. Right now I'm thinking that 'Q' was originally a psyop by Trump's team, together perhaps with Israeli intelligence, to boost his popularity and to steer the discussions. I believe Israel is involved, because from the very beginning Trump has been favoring the zionists with various decisions.

And as they've seen how popular (at least in some circles) 'Q' has become, they keep going. Related to that, I've also started to notice signs of Trump not being as benevolent as I originally thought he was. He has been saying weird and totally false thing about e.g. the situation in Syria. So, he is definitely playing his own secret propaganda game, but are his motives benevolent? And 'Q' is one of his tools in the propaganda war that's going on.

I think that there's a high probability that almost all the 'hot topics' we see on social media today, be it from the right or the left', are manufactured (or at least tweaked) to keep the 'online research community' researching and focusing on the wrong things – the old concept of red herrings. Both sides are lying.

Here's the video:

 

[l apprenti de forgeron]

Thank you very much for the new session, Good People! A lot of precious information to study and learn.

 

[Laura]

My "transient passageways" is a metaphor to explain the "internet connection" that is used by 4D to move a concept from their realm to some other realm. Once they finish manufacturing a genome, there seems to be some kind of intermediary mind network before it pops out in our reality. A conscious entity whose native level is 4D or higher. This: So they don't just send it straight through, there is an intermediary layer. It is encoded, uploaded, downloaded, decoded. This layer was not created by 4D, but it exists all around everything. Before, I have always thought this sort of activity was carried out with a TDARM, which seems to be a more prosaic piece of technological hardware, but maybe that is only used for specialized and focused activities whereas the psychic method is more the standard approach. Yes, this was helpful. I still don't feel like I'm getting the whole picture though, so I'm going to let it digest for awhile.

I liked the "transient passageway"! Very clever!

 

[Deleted member 4320]

I thought about transient passangers and go further with this idea. C's say about that their are us in the future. Get the an example easier to comprehand by us. Let say that you meet yourself from the past. You just go to the meadow to meet you in the past. You are the teenager and just lying on the ground and throwing little sticks being bored a bit.

You start saying to you in the past, you see yourself as the young boy/girl. You are smiling and start remember about how you experienced it, because it is your past. You say to yourself that this is okay, but you should come to book and learn something to school. You know about the bad experience you had when you don't learn and you would like to help you to do not come through it.

But you in the past say that you do not want to learn, he/she prefer lying on the grass. And you think, ahh what the silly stubborn boy/girl I was and you start thinking, ah okay so I need to get flunk, because I do not learn anything. And your connection with you in the past disconnect in some sense, because you in the past to this and you in the future would do something different.

However in other day you meet you again. In this time you in the past is saying to you: "Hey you are right, go for reading." In this time you in the past is very clever and open, you say this and you in the past say understand it and admits you, you want do this and you in the past follow you. You have the impression that you in the past really understand what you understand and start behave as you after these years of experience you had.

There is no differance beetwen you and you in the past now. Imagine that your bodies connect with each other to the moment when you start to be the one body. Then who you are then, you are you from the future, no not exactly, you are there in the past reading book. You are you from the past? No, because you mentally aren't you in the past, you are in the full of mind. Then who you are then? You are the Transient Passanger - this is how it could be to named.

What if the idea of the Transient Passangers is that the in the source they are just pure form of the existance on the highest level, pure creativity, pure STO, not even being but thought form containing the highest form of existance, which give the beginning to all, what idea of STO, life and truth have.

And what if Transient Passengers are beings, but really the phenomenon, which is this connection, which the differents beings in the universe experience, while they connect with this pure intelligence, but even something higher, the source of all the STO and Creativity and Life. The moment while they melt with it.

What do you think about this idea?

 

[seek10]

Just wanted to make a comment about seek10's post above to clarify. The SCO was created earlier, but has been expanding, especially more recently.

Yes, SCO is expanding recently. There are lot of organisations exist for a while, but some got serious traction( wider publicity) in the alternative space since 2014. Addition of India, Pakistan recently and Iran and Turkey hoping to join , SCO could becomes serious organization, if it can solve some of the conflicts.

 

[Persej]

One thing we discussed during a break in the session was the idea that new species might appear simply be being born to existing mothers. Essentially, one species would give birth to another species, due to an influence similar to that that produces viruses and the first cell(s). In this case, either the mother, or the zygote perhaps, would incorporate the eternal object, or thought-form, of the new, desired species into its own being, rearranging its DNA to bring a new form into existence.

So "born from a virgin mother with the help of Holy Spirit" is not so silly story anymore?

 

[seek10]

As far as Transient Passengers go, this concept never really made much sense to me before this session, and now I've been mulling it over. I simplified it a bit in order try and wrap my brain around it. I made a mental analogy imagining the cosmos in terms of an automated assembly line. For our purposes, there are three principle parts, the robots, the computer network infrastructure, and the engineers who run the facility. So when the engineers decide to design a new car, they have an idea in their head which is discussed and perhaps jotted down with some crude notes. The idea is some formless extension of some archetype, we'll call it "transportation." It has no physical existence, cannot be weighed or measured, and does no work by itself. At some point, after being subjected to some refinements and meticulous planning, it is programmed into the computer where it gains some tenuous degree of physical existence in the form of bits in the computer memory, but is still pretty ephemeral and still does no work. The computer then has some software that decodes the machine language into instructions that causes the robotic arms to move and assemble a physical car that does physical work.

This genome transfer thing is fascinating and implications are many.

I remember C's saying Wave tilling the Universe. But, I couldn't find the exact quote. I wondered how Wave does this. This Genome transferring through the Wave breached reality curtains explains it.

They also said how the 4D guys does the reality transfers of the entities between the realms - artificially breaching the curtain, balancing the transfer of the energy etc. They also said about the technology to make DNA changes at the beginning of the last cycle, putting the panels in the sky , harness sun energy to beam that down on the population to cancel some strands etc.

If we imagine the tilling the entire land (planet) and putting the seeds to grow later. That's at Genome level - Say operating system level in the basic lowest component (DNA). This is infinite times more powerful than what 4D guys can do. It's like 4D can do it at a grown plant or mutated seed level, while Transient Passenger can do it entire planet, every thing that can grow in future

Every body wondered about the symmetry of natural creation, particularly Plants, flowers etc. Why number 3 is after 2 or why head is top , not at the bottom. Yes, there is a functional advantage and logic to the biology and genetic mutation etc. Whenever the window fallers who are from different reality, we get glimpse that there another physical reality. It is created differently for their own learning purpose. This explains every reality has their tilling time, it is like their own sandbox creation time.

 

[meta-agnostic]

Steve brought up this theory, that 'Q' could possibly be the guy (with others involved) who set up and also manages Trump's twitter. That would at least explain the 'proof' that has been presented in the Q-community about how 'Q' and 'Trump' often tweet simultaneously.

I think there is most likely something to this on some level. Q has bragged repeatedly about the simultaneous or near-simultaneous tweets and posts, and just a few days ago (Monday) there was the case where Trump "accidentally" tweeted the word Acquisitions instead of Accusations and the differences are the letters Q and CIA:
https://qanon.pub/data/media/04715cee9779e6ffcc3bbf0ca8e5d01dd9c08c8c22acf3070d922dc9d447dd88.jpg

Speaking of twitter, there is the curious case of General Flynn. General Flynn (@GenFlynn) | Twitter Flynn has not tweeted since late 2017, reportedly because of some sort of agreement with the Mueller investigation that he has to keep quiet about is case (and is still awaiting delayed sentencing for the 4th time or so). But he does change the background on his profile semi-regularly, which many Q decoders have pointed to as some type of message at times. And he follows over 20K accounts. Many Q-themed accounts are followed by Flynn and brag about it. Does it make sense for Flynn to be going around following Q accounts haphazardly, or just to promote the mid-term elections or something? Then there is this video from early 2017 going around with Flynn talking about "an army of digital soldiers" and many say pretty much laying out the Q project:

I can't find the complete video with context at the moment but if anyone thinks it's important I will be sure to dig it up. Anyway I think it's fair to say at this point that General Flynn is at least quite aware of Q and at least tacitly promoting it, if not heavily involved and likely part of the "Team". His son publicly denies it on twitter which could be explained as compartmentalization or acting as part of "The Plan" or as usual whatever anyone wants it to mean.

As for the eternal question of Israel, and by extension Syria etc., I still get the feeling of a closer to surface-level following of Q and Trump who for religious, cultural or whatever reasons are willing to swallow the line of "Well, Trump say Israel good so I guess Israel good" but then the deeper level folks who know there is Cabal nastiness beneath the surface over there and are doing their research to figure out the angles and the evidence for such. It's hard to say what the percentages are, but if you scroll through Q's public 8chan board it is apparent that there are a very high percentage there who are never going to blindly support Israel per se, or certainly whatever force is behind Israel's bad actions. But maybe they aren't so much the ones who are the targets to be fooled.

BTW I do think all of the high-level topics addressed in this session and being discussed are very interesting and important and I do not mean to take away from them by going on about Q. I'm just going with what I know. If a Q army thinks they are seeking truth but is being led down the wrong path, don't they at least deserve a sign telling them to head another direction if they are willing to look?

 

[Aeneas]

If a Q army thinks they are seeking truth but is being led down the wrong path, don't they at least deserve a sign telling them to head another direction if they are willing to look?

I don't quite understand why you are so interested in Q. From the viewpoints of most here as evidenced in the Q thread, then we figured out that Q was a psyop. Now the Cs confirmed that too. What is the interest to you whether Trump, Flynn, Killary or Bill O'Leary's cat knows about Q? I am trying to understand what value it has whether X,Y, Z knows about a psyop and/or believes in it? It is a distraction and for some an addiction/belief and it appears to be working well on some segment of the population.

Added: To your question, that I quoted, then I think that it is up to them to see the signs that they are heading in the wrong direction and are being led astray. The signs are everywhere but it is like the story that you can drag a horse to a watering hole, but you can not make it drink. In this case, you can tell 'them' to head in another direction, but do you really think they will listen. Those who see the signs by their own effort will see them, the rest will not.

 

[meta-agnostic]

I don't quite understand why you are so interested in Q. From the viewpoints of most here as evidenced in the Q thread, then we figured out that Q was a psyop. Now the Cs confirmed that too. What is the interest to you whether Trump, Flynn, Killary or Bill O'Leary's cat knows about Q? I am trying to understand what value it has whether X,Y, Z knows about a psyop and/or believes in it? It is a distraction and for some an addiction/belief and it appears to be working well on some segment of the population.

Added: To your question, that I quoted, then I think that it is up to them to see the signs that they are heading in the wrong direction and are being led astray. The signs are everywhere but it is like the story that you can drag a horse to a watering hole, but you can not make it drink. In this case, you can tell 'them' to head in another direction, but do you really think they will listen. Those who see the signs by their own effort will see them, the rest will not.

Maybe this reply would be better done in the Q thread. Or maybe not at all. But at any rate.

So "Q is a psyop". There can be quibbling about the exact language used in the answer, but let's say that's what the C's said. Well, what kind of a psyop? What is the goal of the psyop? Is Trump part of the psyop? Is he a victim of the psyop? These are all questions that could have been asked, or could still be asked on our own. Does it make someone a crazy Q obsessive to ask them? Or just someone who follows politics in a detailed and truthful enough way to want to get to the bottom of things? Maybe in this case the issue is more the following of politics and not so much Q, because it has gone completely insane and those of us here should be so far beyond that now (except when it comes to whatever Putin happens to have going on at the moment. Not that there's anything wrong wit that).

Let's say I am brainwashed by Q. So, unbrainwash me. Please! I WANT THE TRUTH, that's why I came to Q in the first place (or the C's however many years ago or whatever the thing is). So what do you got? "An "insider" of psyops." Ok, what does that mean? "What do you mean what does that mean, we told you, it's a psyop! PSYOP=BAD! Why are you so obsessed with it?" Is that really going to be the end of any discussion of it? Maybe it should be in this thread, because I dig the secret of life stuff that's going on here. But if the rule is intended to be "No more Q discussion on the board, we got our answer, that's the end of it," maybe we should all go over to that thread and decide where we stand.

 

[meta-agnostic]

Not to mention possibly the most significant assertion that Q and the C's have in common: That our reality is about to drastically change at any moment and we should be prepared. Are they asking their subsets of followers to prepare in diametrically opposed ways? Why is this relevant?