Session 23 March 2019

[Martina]

More than thank you.
When my son was little we couldn't afford kindergarten for various reasons, he wasn't fully vaccinated, we didn't have valid address, nor enough money. The time we spent together was in the forrest or a meadow, I had to tell him the name for every single grass or a bug we encountered, so he decided that he's going to be a biologist when he grows up. We spent few hours a day educating ourselves through various encyclopedias, went in libraries and museums and this is how I've spent my college loan and inheritance and what I'm still paying off. I'm trying to say I didn't know what else to do at that time. When I got pregnant on college I couldn't quit it because the contract I had with the bank was I get the money as long I'm studying. I was really long time on college and only got BA, so looking up my resume, no job offers were flying. When I started working nightshifts for a minimum wage to put my son through school( and to pay the debt) I felt it's a punishment for having too much fun in life, but investigating nature with my kid was really the best time ever.

 

[Martina]

Proteins, right. You know I'm prone to hysteria and bitching, but it turns out the exercising I got on work built my muscles and made me take more care of my body, I didn't see it that way then. Sorry for what you have to put up with me.

 

[happyliza]

Goyacobol:
Bluegazer said:

Also remember, that in the transcriptions it is mentioned how some souls of the fauna go from 2D to 3D to occupy human bodies and go through the entire cycle of experience until reaching a certain point. Maybe like the one we're in now.

I don't know if a rock, animal or plant can be STO or STS but there may be something at that level of awareness I suppose (Cs say even computers can develop soul imprint). Since your question mentioned "individualization" of a soul my answer was addressing that concept in relation to 3D.

Dyatlov Pass incident

Even though this was not theoretically a ‘creation’ project. One can just imagine the botch jobs that must occur – but all is progress I presume! Learner drivers. Makes the mind boggle at all the potential ‘ideas’ that could be brain-stormed!

Stupendous precisely as I recall reading descriptions of such ‘creation’ projects in the ‘Anastasia’ books. Mistakes were made because they could not conceive 100% correctly or accurately the TOTAL components that are required to ‘imagine’ just an entire car in their heads, in order to create it. From conscious conception to material form. Lord knows how higher consciousness entities could do such a massive conscious simultaneous conception to produce and animal or human, and all the miraculous internal structures involved. Even for the basic ‘prototypes’. (If this is anyway the modus operandi)

This reminds me in what a disasterous direction medicine is purposefully leading to. Hippocrates healers treated the whole body, mind and spirit – thus had to know and imagine the ‘whole’ body and vibrational connections etc.

Nowadays, everything is sooo ‘specialised’ that we will soon have two separate specialists for the eyes – one for the left on and one for the right one!

Talk about dumbing us all down and far removed from the creation abilities we now know we should be trying to develop!! A truly magnificent and ‘ultimate’ creation project to even envisage – let alone the eons upon eons of knowledge to accrue.

Makes me wish I was good at maths and science at school for starters!!

However, the whole possibility, and knowledge that it IS being done from 4D, sure must broaden our concept of our capabilities, whenever we doubt our ability to learn some things. How encouraging.

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Q: (L) So if something is aimed at a certain point in spacetime but the planet moves, or something moves, or something doesn't get lined up properly, all kinds of really strange things can happen.

(Joe) Was this portal opened accidentally in this area? It wasn't specifically related to these people?

A: It was a scouting expedition by other dimensional plant based amateurs.

Q: (L) Are you saying plant-based in the sense that these were creatures that were plantiferous or something?

A: Yes

Q: (Data) Why bother going through this difficulty of returning the people instead of keeping them?

A: They were not wanted long term. Amateurs!

 

[lilies]

aragorn said:


- if there's no time, i.e. there's no starting point of the universe (the universe(s) have always existed), wouldn't the 4D creators have done all their experimenting 'by now'? A possible answer: many 4D creators have completed the 'experimenting cycle' and then moved on to higher levels – the 'newbies' will start from scratch at some 3D location, for 'practice'. So the Earth is a 'course assignment' for a bunch of newbies? [..]

For years I had an idea, how Lizzies (and 4thD STO as well) in their "zero-time" laboratories in 4th Density develop clones, DNA-modified creatures, new DNA designs and other life forms not based on DNA, but similar developmental structures, like silicon or crystalline based life for example:

In their "zero-time" labs they probably run extremely rapid, "time accelerated", 'full creature growth' experiments. During which they put an egg or a fertilized cell onto a pedestal and start the machine. They watch how a creature grows to its full adult body, super-fast, in "seconds", they see how the creature grows old then dies. Then they evaluate what went wrong, fix DNA errors, recombine a couple of DNA-sequences and re-run the rapid-growth experiment. This way a creature is fully tested in their model laboratory environment, before its released into the wild.

Based on this idea, Lizzies might not be that super-intelligent, I think. Especially if they come into our environment and are forced to exist descended in a prepared 3rd Density human body. Coming down into 3D, they too must be getting under more Gurdjieff's Laws as we are.

A human brain can only do X number of calculations per second in 3rd Density. I think a Lizzie brain has similar limitations, even if their brain-capacity and IQ is said to be significantly higher. I think a Lizzie is considered super-intelligent only, because in its natural 4thD environment, in "zero-time", their brains can do a lot more calculations "per second" or rather per "Non-linear Time Units", than a human brain is able to do in 3D, in a linear-time environment, which is critically Time-Limited.

Imagine your boss gives you a difficult task and as a diligent worker, you immediately sit down to think it through. But you are in 3rd Density! Unfortunately, as a consequence of your critically Time-Limited environment you are only allowed to think about the problem twice! Then its over! If you couldn't solve it in two-think-throughs, you are fired!
Compared to you, a Lizzie sits down in 4D "zero-time" and conveniently thinks through the same problem 100 times and conveniently comes to a way better solution than you, because its environment is almost not time-limited.

I think the "time environment" is the major difference, between a Lizard mind and a human mind. Once we get to 4D, our minds will quickly have to grok it and will hopefully catch up to the Lizzie's level.

 

[happyliza]

I thought it may be prudent to link Laura's recent, important, (and critical to bear in mind as we study), findings, to this session thread, as they are very pertinent.

I missed taking the actual implications on board until something prompted me to start again at the beginning of the 'Darwin's Black Box' thread today.

Others may also have overlooked the fact, that 'intelligent' design may have 'creators' involved from 4D, who may NOT be quite as magnanimous, as our 'beliefs' and 'religions,' may actually have had us believe!!

........If I have interpreted it correctly.

Overall, the Amazing Grace of the picture - the knowledge is this thankfully:
Laura said:

If Love is the power of creation, that’s why 4D STS can’t create; they can only modify or interfere, suppress, etc. So in a real sense, our world was created by Love and is truly, jaw-droppingly amazing.

Those quotes really confirm in a way I can understand clearly, the fact that Knowledge protects.
That our creators gave us all the tools we need to improve ourselves and that it is up to us to always try to access them, to learn more and more how our vehicle functions in order to be able to protect it.

But as we have already learned of 4DSTS intentions, and of Free Will in the Universe, there is the flip side to consider:
Laura:

This book, and all the recent science reading discussed here on the forum has only strengthened the Cassiopaean representation of reality and densities and so forth. Behe doesn't even speculate about "the designer" though he thinks it is a project worthy of scientific attention. But here we are with an explanation of our reality and other realities that is more or less a set of categories into which all this recent research rather neatly fits. And another thing that kept running through my mind was the thought that such intelligences might not always be benevolently inclined toward humans, so its not a bad idea to know what one is up against. It gives all new meaning to the Cs description of 4D battles being perceived by us as "weather and earth changes and cosmic phenomena."

And also that persisting niggling feeling we have about the Alpha and Omega of 'Who created the Universe'!
Through sheer blood, sweat and tears of going through all the necessary minutae of the tons of background reading/study - another gem was found - a current plausible explanation:

There are a couple issues I take with his conclusions, mainly that a designer would have to be transcendent, or "outside" of the created universe. There's no real reason why that should be so as far as I can see. If cellular machinery can self-assemble, so could the Universe.

Thank you just doesn't seem to do justice to the gratitude I feel for your continued persistence under such painful conditions - a true role-model and hero of the myths.

Also heartfelt thanks for the 'maps of Meaning' guidance, in our study regime - to get to where we are now.

(Sorry for not participating as planned for a long time now. Family commitments, plus have a lot of physical pain this year, which had tests for, and mega research, so will share once results are in)

Learning is Fun - and a great distraction!
Blessings to ALL

 

[Martina]

My grandfather had Alzheimer's disease but nobody found that out before it was too late because my grandpa was drinking vine every evening with his buddy and even the fact that he collected 13 cats wasn't weird because our family is kind of a eccentric and full of drunks. I lived 400 km away from hometown so usually around Cristmas when we go for a visit, grandpa was in hospital in terrible condition. He was really skinny for the first time in his life and he couldn't remember who we were, he was mumbling something like he is in a different time, when he was young, and then he sort of got to his senses and looked at me and said: you have very beautiful eyes. I started to cry, because I knew he's going to die soon and that he knows it as well and he sees we're sad about it. So he also started to cry and we hughed each other. He died less than 2 months later in a nursing home, around Chelyabinsk meteor explosion, all of that really crushed me.
But I really, really loved this guy, and I stil do and I know he takes care of me wherever he is right now.
Another story I heared this year from an older gentleman I delivered a mail for a short time. His mother died recently, she was nurtured in her home until the last day. She started to tell her household members she is going to die soon and that she sees angels that are coming to walk her into an afterlife, that no one should be sad and that she is ready. His son was holding her for a hand when she passed away and that although he misses her she had a good life and death.
So I think that people are conscious of the last moments like mentioned in a session. My older grandpa who died 15years ago, took a bath and dressed a fancy suit, when he was closing the waredrobe he sort of passed out on my hands, I only thought he was dizzy. We also came for a visit, and it seemed like he planned, oh the whole family is here, I could go today. Who knowes. Both of my grandpas died at age of 79, in a same month, the had really interesting lives, I hope they were satisfied with them.

 

[lightinthedistance]

Of course, there is still the problem of why we all perceive 'time' consensually, as having the same sequence. If all events are happening simultaneously, and 'time' is just my subjective perception of them, why can't I perceive them in a different order than everyone else? Why do we share the experience of what is past, present and future in the same direction? Probably has to do with cause and effect determining the 'order' of things.

But then how can events be simultaneous if we factor in cause and effect? How could a superconscioussness (4D or out of body) experience it and move in and out of that line - or would it be constrained by it? I imagine that it would be able to perceive several timelines at once running in parallel, branching and crossing each other, and it would have the ability to focus its consciousness on one or another at different points. But I would imagine that ability would not be unlimited - cause that would be 7D - just much more expanded than ours.

There's a simple analogy for describing the perception of the simultaneity of 'time' in our 3D world. It's an oft-used metaphor in Chinese songwriting- using flowing water eg. as in the flowing water of a river to represent 'time'.

Let's say a person were to stand at a high vantage point where she can see the source of a river in a mountain, through the waterfall and rapids, along the meandering valley and finally flowing into the mouth of the ocean. She will see that the river is flowing everywhere at the same time.

But someone who is at the valley would perhaps only observe the river flowing in one direction- from the obscure source high in the mountains to the unseen ocean faraway. She will then think the river begins at an 'earlier time' in the past, and after a 'passage of time', it comes to where she is now, and would later flows to the ocean in a 'future time'.

What separates the river at the mountain, the river at the valley and the river at the ocean is not 'time' but our perception of time, perhaps?

i will end with a thought to my father whom time (as we understand it in this world) will forget. i'm not very good with this...

Gazing at the vast ocean
I remember a time past
Looking at the clear sky
I long for a respite
Though my struggling heart
Like flowing water
They could not hold onto
Yesterday that has passed
Soon the scenery will change
Leaving fading memories
To our brief meeting here

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Like other forum members here would like to thank Laura for another eye opening session. But more than that to thank you for everything, and I mean everything you have laboured and suffered to bring so much information and hope to us all. Everyday I am stunned at the vastness and wealth of what you have done for us all. Thank you seems a paltry word but I am saying it with true gratitude and humility.

 

[Laura]

i will end with a thought to my father whom time (as we understand it in this world) will forget. i'm not very good with this...

Gazing at the vast ocean
I remember a time past
Looking at the clear sky
I long for a respite
Though my struggling heart
Like flowing water
They could not hold onto
Yesterday that has passed
Soon the scenery will change
Leaving fading memories
To our brief meeting here

That's beautiful.

I think that, in general, we should pay more respect and honor to our loved ones who have passed over.

 

[Bluegazer]

Quoting my previous post:

I know maybe I'm not saying anything new ... but! And what if we find out what was the shape (geometry) of the antenna? After all we know that different shapes and configurations of antennas can receive a range of frequencies and certain waves within the electromagnetic spectrum.

The point is that I begin to understand that if you can identify the geometry in the missing protein or enzyme, know what frequency it operates maybe, just maybe acquire that knowledge, you can reestablish the original configuration of the antenna and reconnect with the center.

I came to this, looking for something else.

(I use links and information as a tool for analogy)

Superconducting radio frequency - Wikipedia

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Superconducting radio frequency (SRF) science and technology involves the application of electrical superconductors to radio frequency devices. The ultra-low electrical resistivity of a superconducting material allows an RF resonator to obtain an extremely high quality factor, Q. For example, it is commonplace for a 1.3 GHz niobium SRF resonant cavity at 1.8 kelvins to obtain a quality factor of Q=5×1010. Such a very high Q resonator stores energy with very low loss and narrow bandwidth. These properties can be exploited for a variety of applications, including the construction of high-performance particle accelerator structures.

Q factor - Wikipedia

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In physics and engineering the quality factor or Q factor is a dimensionless parameter that describes how underdamped an oscillator or resonator is,[1] and characterizes a resonator's bandwidth relative to its centre frequency.[2] Higher Q indicates a lower rate of energy loss relative to the stored energy of the resonator; the oscillations die out more slowly. A pendulum suspended from a high-quality bearing, oscillating in air, has a high Q, while a pendulum immersed in oil has a low one. Resonators with high quality factors have low damping, so that they ring or vibrate longer.

Imagine for a moment, that the enzyme lost in the DNA, as an antenna, and / or an oscillator has superconductive capabilities. That is, it has low electrical resistance.

The text that mentions the Q Factor explains:

Thus, a high-Q tuned circuit in a radio receiver would be more difficult to tune, but would have more selectivity; it would do a better job of filtering out signals from other stations that lie nearby on the spectrum.

Having a greater selectivity implies not being, (let's say it in this way) tied to only a few frequencies, or channels. These channels are obviously information flows. The more channels, the more information = knowledge.

Before continuing, I ask you to be patient, since I am like putting together the pieces of something ...

I will summarize it this way:

Before the fall, our intact DNA, as an antenna with superconductive capabilities (the one that allowed an uninterrupted flow of energy-> information-> knowledge -THE FORCE OF LIFE-) allowed us an STO existence mode.

In the moment in which that capacity was lost, when losing the whole spectrum or range of frequencies, we enter the STS modality, because we choose the lie, or any lie (illusion, egoistic pleasures)

This allowed, that the DNA manipulation be possible, and they cut the superconductive capacity.

This superconductive capacity is what allowed us to move between the physical and the non-physical. The local and the non-local.

In the middle of it, gravity as a binder, unstable gravitational waves.

From this several ideas come off: Greater extrasensory perception, longer life. etc.

My point is that the lost enzyme, the protein, must be resonate / oscillate in a much larger frequency range than others.

Maybe it is not that the enzyme is lost, but DISCONNECTED. And that the correct vibration could RECONNECT it.

As always, it's a speculation. But for some reason it makes sense to me. I would like to ask this to the C's.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Fantastic idea, in theory, but what immediately springs to mind is our degradation over the millennia. maybe our bodies (well,most of us anyway) just are not ready for such a leap. Or, maybe the wave will do that. Just a gut feeling with no science to back it up.

 

[goyacobol]

As always, it's a speculation. But for some reason it makes sense to me. I would like to ask this to the C's.

Maybe it is not that the enzyme is lost, but DISCONNECTED. And that the correct vibration could RECONNECT it.

I think those are things we can't help but speculate/think about if we are curious and want to learn/know.

There are some clues we already have and we can at least try to develop our knowledge in that direction. As long as we don't "anticipate" how the actual process will happen. I think we should stay "open" to possibilities as to how these things may be in reality without believing it has to happen according to some preconceived theory that may be way off.

Q: (A) Are there some particular DNA sequences that facilitate transmission between densities?

A: Addition of strands.

Q: (L) How do you get added strands?

A: You don't get, you receive.

Q: (L) Where are they received from?

A: Interaction with upcoming wave, if vibration is aligned.

Q: (L) How do you know if this is happening?

A: Psychophysiological changes manifest.

Psychophysioligical changes covers a wide range of possibilities that we probably won't be able to "anticipate". In the meantime we can continue to study the topics here such as Darwin's Black Box - Michael J. Behe and Intelligent Design and The Forgotten Exodus: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution for more detailed look at the science being used to make new discoveries.

 

[Bluegazer]

I am not tied to any particular theory, however, whatever happens I do not think it happens in any arbitrary way. That is, if physiological and psychological changes are manifested, I believe they will follow those laws of nature that we know today.

And by the way, I do not feel that it is anticipatory in some way to elaborate an idea, to ask a question with it.

 

[goyacobol]

I am not tied to any particular theory, however, whatever happens I do not think it happens in any arbitrary way. That is, if physiological and psychological changes are manifested, I believe they will follow those laws of nature that we know today.

And by the way, I do not feel that it is anticipatory in some way to elaborate an idea, to ask a question with it.

I think those are things we can't help but speculate/think about if we are curious and want to learn/know.

I say think and learn as much as you can. What if these changes are different than "those laws of nature that we know today"? That's why I recommended the other threads and the discussions that are there. New "laws" not yet discovered may be something to think about.

 

[kinyash]

A really profound session and exhilarating discussions. Much to ponder and learn. Many thanks.