Thanks for the new session
It is interesting the difference that is made between the types of beliefs we have. In my case, I can say that it was a process, to go from the entropic belief to the belief that empowers. I think this is very clear about religion and specifically about Caesar alias Jesus Christ.
As Entropic believer my belief was based on non-historical facts, I believed in the divine Jesus; the carpenter of Palestine who incarnated as a child of God and who promoted an idea of submission to life, "turn the other cheek", in exchange for a reward in the future.
As a Non-believer (another type of entropic Believer). I was cloistered in the material world. I do not believe because I was not satisfied with the miraculous, I do not believe in the existence of other non-physical realities. Philosophers tell us atheist are nihilists. They do not believe because they do not know or are not aware. They have no faith in the sense that FAITH … “is confidence in things not seen”
But I was fortunate to find Laura's work and communications with the C's
With time and research, I was now the empowered Believer. I do not believe in the divine Jesus but in fact the historical Jesus, my belief is based on historical facts, in research, readings etc. As Pierre said: “You can believe AND know. You can believe BECAUSE you know” So to the empowered Believer, Jesus incarnated in the person of a military and political genius who had the will to change things in a brutal and corrupt world. Caesar instead of promoting submission promoted the defense against the oppressor through the laws.
This process Gurdjieff explains when he talked about the Influences we get in life and the magnetic centre:
Q. What is desire to awaken due to? Is it in essence?
A. This is connected with magnetic centre. You will remember that in the first lecture I spoke about magnetic centre and the different influences under which man lives. This brings us to the question of why some people are interested in these ideas, while others are not, what creates this desire to know, the energy to seek; why people who live in similar conditions are so different, for one person is satisfied with ready-made theories and clichés, while another wants to find truth for himself. What is it that explains this difference in people in relation to new ideas, for some people meet with the possibility of acquiring new knowledge and are not interested, while for others it may change the whole trend of their lives? People come to these and similar ideas in different ways. Some understand something, others take them on an ordinary level. The cause of this difference is that man lives in mechanical life under two kinds of influences. What does it mean? It is connected with the idea explained in the beginning, that man is a machine controlled by external influences, by things around him. He may be receptive to one kind of influences and not receptive to another kind. Most of these influences are created in life itself, by people like himself. But among them, mixed with them, there are other influences which are not created in life but come from a different source, from people of a higher mind. They come in the form of religions, science, philosophical systems, esoteric doctrines, art, all sorts of teachings, and so on. They cannot be distinguished from influences of the first kind outwardly, so it depends on the man whether he discriminates between them or not. Man can live only under influences A, that is, influences of the first kind, and disregard influences B, not be interested in them. But if he is interested in these influences of the second kind and has absorbed them in sufficient quantity, a certain process takes place in him. Results of these influences B, the memory of them, collect separately in a special compartment and form what is called a magnetic centre. Magnetic centre is a combination of certain interests and emotional associations which makes him turn in a definite direction. It is a certain cycle of ideas and a certain cycle of emotions. This is the origin of interest in this kind of ideas.
If people have an interest in these influences B, they have a magnetic centre; if not, they have no magnetic centre.
After some time, with the help of magnetic centre, a man may find a school, or if he comes near one he may recognize it. But if he has no magnetic centre, he will not notice it, or will not be interested. And if he meets a school or a man who transmits another kind of influence, influence C, magnetic centre helps him to recognize this new influence and absorb it. If he has rot first absorbed enough influences B, and so has no magnetic centre, or if his magnetic centre is wrong or too weak, a man will not recognize influence C. Or he may meet a wrong school and have wrong instruction and instead of becoming better become worse; instead of acquiring, lose. Influence C differs from influences B in that it is conscious, instead of being accidental, both in its origin and its action, whereas influences B are conscious in their origin but accidental or mechanical in their action. Influence C is school influence
Generally speaking, there is very little chance of finding a right school and many possibilities of wrong schools, because a school must have influences C, that is, ideas that come direct from higher mind. What does 'direct' mean? It means coming not through books, not through ordinary learning accessible to everybody....
Today, when I spoke to my acquaintances of the relationship between Iulius Caesar and the Christ, there are people in my community who turn around and leave.
.Thank you for try to helping me!
