Session 23 September 2023
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I find it curious that the C's should link Thor (the Norse god of thunder and the son of Odin) with the Latin spelling of pantheon in respect of a group of mainly subterranean Aryan psychic projectors. They could have said Thor's Pantheon but they deliberately chose to use the Latin spelling of the word. Is there a hidden clue in this perhaps?
The C's said this pantheon was a group or army of Sub-select trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency graduation who were both STO and STS in orientation. And, of course, Thor as a Nordic deity, would also be an Aryan deity. When you compare Thor to gods in other ancient pantheons you will generally find his equivalent as a sky or thunder god. Thus, in the Greek pantheon his equivalent would be Apollo, the son of Zeus. In the Roman pantheon, the god of thunder was Jupiter the supreme god and the equivalent of Zeus or Odin. Indeed, when you compare all the main ancient pantheons you usually find nine main deities. In Egypt, these nine gods were known as the Ennead. This also provides us with a link to a group called 'the Council of Nine'. Earlier in this thread, I mentioned the channelling of a group called "the Nine", which was originally run out of the Stanford Research Institute. I didn't mention in that post that Laura once quizzed the C's about this group and received this response:
“Q: (L) Next question: I would like to know what is the "Council of Nine," as I have read about in several books. Now, there was an ancient council of nine, and then there is the one talked about by Phyllis Schlemmer Are there any references on the council of nine that you can give us?
A: Partial deception.
Q: Partial deception in the ancient references, or the modern ones?
A: Take ancient references and interpret modern accounts according to current events profile.!”
One of the chief concepts of The Nine is that the Earth was an "experiment in free will" that went wrong and if we just hold our mouth right, they will come in and fix things up for us as they have over and over again. This is, essentially, the idea that is being presented by dozens, hundreds of channelled sources.
For those who might like to know more about the Ennead or the Nine, I am attaching an article I wrote a while ago on the subject plus a thought provoking article on the 'Nine Channellings'. Dipping into my article, I posed within it the question whether there may have been a link between the ancient Egyptians channelling of the Ennead and Andrija Puharich (a CIA asset who as an Army doctor in the 1950s was deeply involved with the CIA’s notorious MKULTRA mind control project - Geenbauming?) and Phyllis Schlemmer's group who also called themselves "the Nine":
The development of the Ennead remains uncertain, although it appears to have first appeared when Ra's cult, which was supreme under Dynasty V, declined in importance under Dynasty VI. Egyptologists have traditionally theorised that the Heliopolitan priesthood created it to establish the pre-eminence of Atum over the other gods, incorporating some major gods in lesser positions and omitting others entirely. The most prominent of such deities was Osiris, the god of vegetation and the afterlife, who was incorporated into the Ennead as Atum's great-grandson. After the Great Ennead was well established, the cult of Ra – identified with Atum – recovered much of its importance until superseded by the cult of Horus. The two were then combined as Ra-Horus of the Horizons.
Atum was considered a protector of pharaohs. He was responsible for meeting them in their tombs and lifting them up into the afterlife. In the afterlife, the pharaohs – who were all considered Atum’s sons – would become stars that never died. One of Atum’s titles was “Father of Kings”. From our perspective, we should note that it was the pharaoh who channelled the gods of the Ennead and acted as their spokesman on Earth. Hence, we can see something of a connection here between the Egyptian pharaoh’s channelling of the Ennead in ancient Egypt and that which Puharich facilitated in the latter half of the 20th century through the channelling of The Nine.
However, were Puharich’s trance mediums channelling the same entities as those the Pharaohs channelled and knew as the Ennead? It is curious that when Laura raised this issue with the C’s they gave something of an ambiguous answer when they said it was a “partial deception” and Laura needed to “take ancient references and interpret modern accounts according to current events profile”. We need to ask then whether some of the information obtained from the channelling of The Nine was legitimate and correct. Perhaps the earlier sessions involving the Round Table Foundation were, whilst the later channellings of the character named Tom (the supposed alias for Atum) were those that involved the deception.
To confuse matters even more, the being or entity who was the source of the later ‘Law of One’ channellings used the name “Ra”, and we know the ancient Egyptian cult of Ra was identified with that of the Atum. Puharich would later sit in on a few sessions of the Law of One channellings and afterwards opined that he thought it was the same source as the one he and his colleagues had channelled in The Nine channellings. It may be important to note that unlike many Egyptian gods, Atum usually appears fully humanoid. This may tie in with what Ra said in the Law of One channellings where he stated: “we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica visible in the third density of our mind/body/spirit complexes in the sixth density”. Hence, we might legitimately ask the question whether the channelling of the Ennead by the ancient Egyptian pharaohs was part of the experiment that Ra said he had been allowed to conduct by the Council of Zendar? For this purpose, we should note that Ra used the personal pronoun “we” not “I” in the quote shown above. He could have. of course, have meant the royal “we”, as in the plural usage adopted by monarchs when speaking, but then again, he may have meant himself and fellow 6th density members of his Venusian based 6th density social memory complex or unified thought form collective.
This channelling of 6th density beings must also embrace the Cassiopaeans too, for they have admitted that they were in communication with a group of Kentakkians prior to their planet’s destruction and later with their descendants who they described as the “Northern Peoples” [who were of course the ancestors of the Aryans]:
A: If you prefer! We have close affiliation with the "Northern Peoples." Why? Because we were in regular, direct contact with them on Kantek, before they were "lifted" to Earth by Orion STS.
As to the ancient Council of Nine, I had this to say:
In Greek mythology, when Prometheus gave fire to mankind, he infuriated Zeus so much that to punish Prometheus, Zeus had him chained to a rock and every day an eagle came down and ate his liver. Because he was immortal, the liver grew back, and the eagle returned to do the same to him the next day ad infinitum. To punish mankind, Zeus and eight other deities gathered to form the Council of Nine.
The Council members were Aphrodite, Apollo, Athena, Demeter, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Poseidon and Zeus himself.
Together this council created Pandora, and sent her, as a gift, to Epimetheus. Epimetheus was also given Pandora’s Box and told to never open it. Curiosity got the better of Pandora and she opened the box, thereby releasing all of the misfortunes of Mankind [MJF: Is this a code for scientific knowledge, the misuse of which destroyed the Atlanteans?].
This then leads on to the Nine Muses of Greek mythology who may have a possible connection to Thor's Pantheum of psychic projectors:
This then leads on to the Nine Muses of Greek mythology who may have a possible connection to Thor's Pantheum of psychic projectors:
The Nine Muses of the Greek Mythology
The Nine Muses of the Greek Mythology were deities that gave artists, philosophers and individuals the necessary inspiration for creation [MJF: which makes me think here of the activities of Thor’s Pantheum].
Hesiod reveals that they were called Muses or Mouses in Greek, as the Greek word “mosis” refers to the desire and wish. The word “museum” derives from the Greek Muses.
The Nine Muses were: Clio, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomeni, Terpsichore, Erato, Polymnia, Ourania and Calliope.
All the ancient writers appealed to the Muses at the beginning of their work. Homer asked the Muses both in the Iliad and the Odyssey to help him tell the story in the most proper way, and right up until today the Muses are symbols of inspiration and artistic creation.
In paintings, the Muses are usually presented as ethereal women with divine beauty, holding laurels and other items depending on their particular faculty.
For more on this see: Significance Of The 'Divine Nine' In Ancient Cultures - Look4ward
This then leads us back to the Norse gods, including Thor:
The Norse Gods
In the mythic story of the Ragnarök, which is like a Nordic version of Armageddon or a ‘twilight of the gods’ saga, many of the main Norse gods (including Odin and Thor) die in a climactic battle against the forces of destruction or chaos that takes place against a background of natural disasters and the submersion of the world in water. After the battle, the surviving and returning gods subsequently meet up again and the world is repopulated by two human survivors. Interestingly, it transpires yet again that there are nine main surviving deities who are left to watch over mankind as Odin and company had done before.
Is there any echo of this Norse gods link to the Council of Zendar or the Council of Nine? Well, there may be. In the transcripts there is a reference to another dream Laura had (we have referred to it previously in an earlier post), which seems to involve a council sitting in judgement:
Session 10 October 1998:
Q: (A) I want to ask about the meaning of my dream, which was so vivid... about Elohim and Seraphim. What was the meaning of this dream?
A: Peace torch.
Q: (A) What is peace torch? From whom?
A: Not from. All considered before decision on judgment.
Q: (L) That makes no sense at all.
A: Yes it does.
Q: (A) Who were the Elohim?
A: Elohim refers to past, as a connection to future as envisioned in your dream. It is the connector that counts, see?? Ruling council of Od; Odiem. [MJF: and we know the Elohim are transdefinitive and variable entities (shapeshifters?) who originally manifested as humans but then as non-human after making a pact or covenant with the 4th density STS Rosteem, who now manifest as the Rosicrucians.]
Q: (L) What about the Seraphim?
A: Council in clouds... We are speaking of advanced insight here.
Q: (L) Why were there 300 Elohim and 301 Seraphim?
A: Who is the odd one out?
Q: (A) Who is the odd one out?
A: Check your roots. Od, odiem, odd, could we spell it out any clearer for you? Not without abridging free will!
Q: (L) Who is Sara? [MJF: we now know that Sara or Sarah, Abraham’s wife in the Bible, was in reality Nefertiti, a subterranean hybrid.]
A: Roots.
So, after the Council of Zendar (or Saturn) and the Council of Nine, we now have a "council in clouds" and a ruling council of Od or Odiem, who may be connected to the Elohim. We may assume here that the ruling council of Od or Odiem is the same as the council in clouds. If by Laura’s roots, the C’s are referring to her Nordic (Norman) roots through the Percy family, then Od or Odiem may be referring to Odin, the supreme god of the Norse pantheon, who was therefore the equivalent of Zeus in the Greek pantheon and Jupiter in the Roman pantheon.
We have looked at this matter, including the possible link between the fiery Seraphim and the Lizards, before – ref. my post on The Egyptian Pilgrimage of Initiation Part 2 dated 27 August 2022 (see Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians | Page 52 | Cassiopaea Forum). In that post, I pointed out that Saturn was:
“… a planet linked to Cronus (Kronos, Chronos, Saturn) the Titan god of time and ages who was, above all, associated with the destructive force of time which sooner or later consumes everything. Cronus was the father of Zeus, who became the King of the Olympian gods of Greece and led them to victory over Cronus and his fellow Titans. Cronus had been the leader and youngest of the first generation of Titans, the divine descendants of the primordial Gaia (Mother Earth) and Uranus (Father Sky). He overthrew his father and ruled during the mythological Golden Age until he in turn was overthrown by his son Zeus.
Zeus’ equivalent in the Nordic and Germanic pantheons was Odin or Woden. Just as Zeus was the ancestor of many of Greece’s founding kings, Odin was believed to have been the forefather of many of the Germanic (Aryan) peoples. The two gods also have remarkably similar origin stories. While Zeus is a master of the sky and a thunder god, Odin walked the line between the realms of the living and the dead and was a wise god whose power lay within his wisdom. While Zeus hurled thunder bolts down from Olympus, Odin, although a god of war, was better known for his wit, intelligence, and wisdom. However, in Norse mythology, Odin’s son Thor (the Norse god of thunder) can be viewed in many ways as being more similar to the Olympian king than Odin himself.
In old Norse the noun Óð, is said to mean mind, soul or spirit. Óðr was also the husband of the goddess Freya and usually identified as the root of Odin. Odin, along with Freya, were the two greatest practitioners of shamanism amongst the Norse gods.
The noun óðr is also descriptive of the masculine shamanic power of the Aesir - ecstasy, fury, inspiration - but Odin is also able to wield the mystical feminine power of the Vanir - seidr - bestowed on him by the goddess Freya.
Thus, does the C’s reference to “Od” “Odiem” point to Odin or Woden? Where the C’s tell Laura to check her roots, is this because her English, Anglo-Saxon ancestors were Woden or Wotan worshippers, the Gemanic equivalent of Odin. In other words, are they saying that Laura, as someone of Nordic descent, is a child of Odin?
In that same post of 27 August 2022, I looked at various places that contained either Od, Odd or Odiem in their name such as Odiham in England and Odda in Norway. Another Forum member Manitoba subsequently mentioned a settlement called Oddi in Iceland, which had a school where Snorri Sturluson, the author of the Prose Edda and the Heimskringla that were some of the major sources for Norse mythology and religion, was fostered and educated at.
However, I came across yet another source which mentioned a place called Odense (Odin’s vé) in Denmark.
Odense (/ˈoʊdənsə/ OH-dən-sə, also /ˈoʊθənsə/ OH-thən-sə, Danish: [ˈoðˀn̩sə]) is the third largest city in Denmark. The name Odense is derived from Odins Vé, meaning "Odin's sanctuary", as the area was known as a sanctuary for worshippers of Odin. Archaeological excavations in the vicinity show proof of settlement for over 4,000 years since at least the Stone Age.
This same source also made a link between Odin and Adon/Adonai, the Hebrew word meaning “My Lord”, which came to be used by the Jews in place of Yahweh or Jehovah, as the name for God, outside of the Temple sanctuary. The same source added:
Thus Elohim-Yeahweh becomes “tungla ársvé” in Old Norse, perfectly explainable, as astro-agrarian yuletide, at sun’s nadir.
If this view is correct, then it establishes an interesting link between Odin, the Norse supreme god, and Yahweh the god of the Hebrews or Israelites, who the C’s identified as being a Lizard front. Does this suggest that the “children of Odin” are really the children of Yahweh?
Ongoing Involvement of the Council of Nine
As Wikipedia notes: “The concept of a divine assembly (or council) is attested in the archaic Sumerian, Akkadian, Old Babylonian, Ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Israelite, Celtic, Ancient Greek and Ancient Roman and Nordic pantheons. The testimony of these ancient cultures is important, because ancient myths often have a kernel of truth in them”.
And, as we have seen, stories of emperors, kings and pharaohs consulting a pantheon of nine gods can be found in virtually every major ancient culture across the globe.
We must therefore ask whether it is purely coincidence that so many ancient cultures separated by thousands of miles all worshiped a group of nine main gods? Could there really be an intergalactic Council of Nine secretly working behind the scenes, dictating the course of humanity's destiny?
The Etruscans
However, I also noted that the title 'Thor's Pantheum' contains a Latin element. Was this intended to draw our attention to the Romans and by extension the Etruscans, who in many ways were the progenitors of Roman civilisation? Like other ancient cultures, the Etruscans also had an ennead or group of nine gods called the Novensiles who were gods of lightning:
Nine Etruscan Deities – NovensilesWe have looked at this matter, including the possible link between the fiery Seraphim and the Lizards, before – ref. my post on The Egyptian Pilgrimage of Initiation Part 2 dated 27 August 2022 (see Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians | Page 52 | Cassiopaea Forum). In that post, I pointed out that Saturn was:
“… a planet linked to Cronus (Kronos, Chronos, Saturn) the Titan god of time and ages who was, above all, associated with the destructive force of time which sooner or later consumes everything. Cronus was the father of Zeus, who became the King of the Olympian gods of Greece and led them to victory over Cronus and his fellow Titans. Cronus had been the leader and youngest of the first generation of Titans, the divine descendants of the primordial Gaia (Mother Earth) and Uranus (Father Sky). He overthrew his father and ruled during the mythological Golden Age until he in turn was overthrown by his son Zeus.
Zeus’ equivalent in the Nordic and Germanic pantheons was Odin or Woden. Just as Zeus was the ancestor of many of Greece’s founding kings, Odin was believed to have been the forefather of many of the Germanic (Aryan) peoples. The two gods also have remarkably similar origin stories. While Zeus is a master of the sky and a thunder god, Odin walked the line between the realms of the living and the dead and was a wise god whose power lay within his wisdom. While Zeus hurled thunder bolts down from Olympus, Odin, although a god of war, was better known for his wit, intelligence, and wisdom. However, in Norse mythology, Odin’s son Thor (the Norse god of thunder) can be viewed in many ways as being more similar to the Olympian king than Odin himself.
In old Norse the noun Óð, is said to mean mind, soul or spirit. Óðr was also the husband of the goddess Freya and usually identified as the root of Odin. Odin, along with Freya, were the two greatest practitioners of shamanism amongst the Norse gods.
The noun óðr is also descriptive of the masculine shamanic power of the Aesir - ecstasy, fury, inspiration - but Odin is also able to wield the mystical feminine power of the Vanir - seidr - bestowed on him by the goddess Freya.
Thus, does the C’s reference to “Od” “Odiem” point to Odin or Woden? Where the C’s tell Laura to check her roots, is this because her English, Anglo-Saxon ancestors were Woden or Wotan worshippers, the Gemanic equivalent of Odin. In other words, are they saying that Laura, as someone of Nordic descent, is a child of Odin?
In that same post of 27 August 2022, I looked at various places that contained either Od, Odd or Odiem in their name such as Odiham in England and Odda in Norway. Another Forum member Manitoba subsequently mentioned a settlement called Oddi in Iceland, which had a school where Snorri Sturluson, the author of the Prose Edda and the Heimskringla that were some of the major sources for Norse mythology and religion, was fostered and educated at.
However, I came across yet another source which mentioned a place called Odense (Odin’s vé) in Denmark.
Odense (/ˈoʊdənsə/ OH-dən-sə, also /ˈoʊθənsə/ OH-thən-sə, Danish: [ˈoðˀn̩sə]) is the third largest city in Denmark. The name Odense is derived from Odins Vé, meaning "Odin's sanctuary", as the area was known as a sanctuary for worshippers of Odin. Archaeological excavations in the vicinity show proof of settlement for over 4,000 years since at least the Stone Age.
This same source also made a link between Odin and Adon/Adonai, the Hebrew word meaning “My Lord”, which came to be used by the Jews in place of Yahweh or Jehovah, as the name for God, outside of the Temple sanctuary. The same source added:
Thus Elohim-Yeahweh becomes “tungla ársvé” in Old Norse, perfectly explainable, as astro-agrarian yuletide, at sun’s nadir.
If this view is correct, then it establishes an interesting link between Odin, the Norse supreme god, and Yahweh the god of the Hebrews or Israelites, who the C’s identified as being a Lizard front. Does this suggest that the “children of Odin” are really the children of Yahweh?
Ongoing Involvement of the Council of Nine
As Wikipedia notes: “The concept of a divine assembly (or council) is attested in the archaic Sumerian, Akkadian, Old Babylonian, Ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Israelite, Celtic, Ancient Greek and Ancient Roman and Nordic pantheons. The testimony of these ancient cultures is important, because ancient myths often have a kernel of truth in them”.
And, as we have seen, stories of emperors, kings and pharaohs consulting a pantheon of nine gods can be found in virtually every major ancient culture across the globe.
We must therefore ask whether it is purely coincidence that so many ancient cultures separated by thousands of miles all worshiped a group of nine main gods? Could there really be an intergalactic Council of Nine secretly working behind the scenes, dictating the course of humanity's destiny?
The Etruscans
However, I also noted that the title 'Thor's Pantheum' contains a Latin element. Was this intended to draw our attention to the Romans and by extension the Etruscans, who in many ways were the progenitors of Roman civilisation? Like other ancient cultures, the Etruscans also had an ennead or group of nine gods called the Novensiles who were gods of lightning:
The basis of Etruscan religion was the fundamental idea that the destiny of man was completely determined by the vagaries of the many deities worshipped by the Etruscans. Among various gods worshipped by the Etruscans special place was reserved for the collective deities Known as the ‘Novensiles’.
These were Nine gods of lightning whose strikes were thought to indicate future events depending on their location. Ancient Roman scholar and writer Marcus Terentius Varro suggested that they are nine, because in doing anything that number is always reputed most powerful and greatest and they had obtained their power from Jupiter (the Roman Zeus) to wield his thunder. All nine alike were briefly and compendiously invoked under one name – Novensiles.
Curiously, the C's once said this about the Etruscans:
Session 21 June 1997:
A: Etruscan.
Q: Well, who were the Etruscans?
A: Templar carriers. [MJF: Does this establish a link between the Knights Templar and their possible ancient Levite predecessors or forefathers who carried and protected the Ark of the Covenant]
Q: What does that mean?
A: Seek and ye shall find.
Q: Well, how am I supposed to do that? I can't find anything else on the Etruscans!
A: No.
Q: What do you mean 'no?' You mean there is more out there on the Etruscans?
A: Yes.
Q: Okay. What are Templar carriers?
A: Penitent Avian Lords.
Q: What does that mean?
A: For your search. All is drawn from some more ancient form.
Q: Okay, let's leave that for now.
Hence, we see from the above that the Etruscan alphabet is the one from which the later Greek and Nordic (runes being used by the Scandinavians and Germanic peoples and, indeed, later by the Irish Gaels who migrated to Ireland from Spain).
The C's expanded further on this here:
Q: Well, writing is related to the words for cutting and inscribing and even shearing and sharks. You called the Etruscans 'Penitant Avian Lords,' who were also 'Templar Carriers’. Is this related to these bird images? Then related to speech, writing and shearing?
A: Pass the test.
Q: So, if you are writing, and you pass the test, then you can be a phoenix, dove or whatever?
A: Discover.
Q: Ark suggested that the Etruscans may have gotten their alphabet as a mirror image. Could it be that they lived on the 'other side' of the mirror?
A: Latter is closer.
[Cf. this with what the C's said about the looking glass or mirror in Alice Through the Looking Glass in the excerpt quoted below, which may link the Etruscans with 4th Density:
Q: Well if a person transitions directly from 3rd to 5th density via dying, that implies that persons can transition directly from 3rd to 4th density without dying. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: How does that feel? How is that experience …
A: Alice through the looking glass]
Is there anything else which may link the ancient Etruscans with 4th Density and/or the subterranean civilisation, which we know contains a mixture of 3rd, 4th and bi-density Aryan beings?
Well, it seems the three gypsy commentators who annotated the Varo Edition of Dr Morris K Jessup's book The Case for the UFO had a few things to say about the Etruscans who they called Atruscans.
Jessup spoke of a true crystal lens that had been found by archaeologists in the treasure house of Nineveh in what is now modern day Iraq. Jessup saw it as a proof that an advanced knowledge of optics was known some millennia before this lens was incarcerated at Nineveh. He argued that if the lens was indigenous to this planet then perforce we must accept that a civilisation with a knowledge of optics predated all of presently recorded history. Here is what the gypsies said about it:
"Lens was Atruscan
Mirror silvering of crystal (rock or force-made crystal) unknown to Atruscans.
It was crystal and it was a lens. Atruscans used them to make fine gold and silver earrings and gold wire inlays.
Also used to make fire for the smiths."
Jessup continued by saying: "The lens is just as much, in its small way, a relic of the first wave of civilisation (if not from space) as is the Great Pyramid which embodies more astronomy and mathematics than was possessed by those people to whom its construction is attributed." MJF: the underlining here was by the Gypsies who added the following comment shown below:
"Man speaks from general consensus"
[Jessup] "Wilkins, in Secret Cities of South America, reports the finding of optical lenses and mirrors in a submerged city on the coast of Ecuador, and others in archaic ruins of Central America. These appear to be pre-Incan and pre-Andean."
"These were Muanian in make."
N.B The three Gypsies referred throughout their annotations in the book to a group they called the "L-Ms", being Lemurian-Muanians or Little Men (which makes me think of the Greys) who apparently had been at war, on and off, with the S-Ms or Secret Order Men over several millennia.
Nineveh is a truly ancient settlement and was one of the oldest and greatest cities in antiquity. Nineveh itself was founded as early as 6000 BC during the late Neolithic period. By 3000 BC, the Kish civilization had expanded into Nineveh. At this time, the main temple of Nineveh becomes known as Ishtar temple, re-dedicated to the Semite goddess Ishtar. Later it was incorporated into the Akkadian Empire. After the fall of Ur in 2000 BC, with the transition into the Middle Bronze, Nineveh was absorbed into the rising power of Assyria. The Assyrian city of Nineveh then became one of Mitanni's vassals for half a century until the early 14th century BC. The Assyrian king Ashur-uballit I reclaimed it in 1365 BC while overthrowing the Mitanni Empire and creating the Middle Assyrian Empire (1365–1050 BC).
However, it was Sennacherib who made Nineveh a truly magnificent city (c. 700 BC). At this time, the total area of Nineveh comprised about 7 square kilometres (1,730 acres), and fifteen great gates penetrated its walls. An elaborate system of eighteen canals brought water from the hills to Nineveh. The enclosed area had more than 100,000 inhabitants (maybe closer to 150,000), about twice as many as Babylon at the time, placing it among the largest settlements worldwide. Indeed, Some scholars believe that the garden which Sennacherib built next to his palace, with its associated irrigation works, were the original Hanging Gardens of Babylon. The greatness of Nineveh was short-lived. In around 627 BC, after the death of its last great king Ashurbanipal, the Neo-Assyrian Empire began to unravel through a series of bitter civil wars between rival claimants for the throne, and in 616 BC Assyria was attacked by its own former vassals, the Babylonians, Chaldeans, Medes, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. The allied forces eventually reached Nineveh, besieging and sacking the city in 612 BC, following bitter house-to-house fighting, after which it was razed. The Assyrian Empire then came to an end by 605 BC, the Medes and Babylonians dividing its colonies between themselves. Although there is evidence for its partial resettlement after 605 BC, the city was not actively resettled until the age of the Seleucid Empire of the Macedonians in the 2nd century BC.
Hence, if the Etruscans were trading with the inhabitants of Nineveh, as witnessed by the Etruscan lens found at the treasure house of the ancient city, this would have been before 605 BC when the city was sacked and razed to the ground. How far back might this trade have dated? Rome as a city is not thought to have been established before the 8th Century BC. As legend has it, Rome was founded in 753 B.C. by Romulus and Remus, the twin sons of Mars, the god of war. However, Rome was preceded by the Sabine, Latin and Etruscan civilisations of Italy. The earliest evidence of a culture that is identifiably Etruscan dates from about 900 BC. The territorial extent of Etruscan civilisation reached its maximum around 750 BC, during the foundational period of the Roman Kingdom. This would therefore fit nicely with the peak of the city of Nineveh in 700 BC.
The origins of the Etruscans is still a great mystery. Some ancient historians linked them with the sea peoples of the Mediterranean. However, the First-century Roman historian Pliny the Elder linked the Etruscans to the Rhaetian people to the north, i.e., the Alpine regions who he believed were displaced by the Gauls. The Raeti were a confederation of Alpine tribes, whose language and culture was related to those of the Etruscans. Before the Roman conquest, they inhabited present-day Tyrol in Austria, eastern Switzerland and the Alpine regions of north-eastern Italy. Most scholars now think they were in fact indigenous to this region and were not displaced there by the Gauls (Celts) as Pliny and others had thought.
If this is the case, then one can see how the Etruscan alphabet could have influenced the Germanic and Nordic peoples to their north, as claimed by the C's.
But the three Gypsies went even further where the Etruscans were concerned. You may recall that Ark had suggested that the Etruscans may have gotten their alphabet as a mirror image. Jessup noted of a certain cross found in an ancient grave in the US state of Georgia, as reported in the Smithsonian Institute Reports of 1881, that when looked at in a mirror, some of the inscriptions on it seemed to resemble Roman numerals but were not quite legible. The three Gypsies had this to say about the cross:
Cross is Atruscan-Lemurian, Language is that now called "Black tongue" spoken by "Gitana" [Gypsies] the world over. Show this to a brother -gypsy & lord know what the reaction would be if the original were shown. It is Chief's or Nabob's own insignia of Clan. He flew that place but had to walk later. He died from walking for his muscles were not used to or for such purpose. Manner of death indicated by horse's head, even tho[ugh] there were no horses on this land at that time. His name and address & his accomplishments are signified on the metal. the cross was left so that the body might be brought home. The making of this required callipers, scribes, and drawing compass, plus mathematics. Punch, a press, a set of stamps, a drill, several different files, a forge, smelter etc. or one force-ray stamp and burner press.
Apart from the fact that the production of this cross seemed from this description to have been be a small scale industrial operation, we note that the language on the cross is Atruscan-Lemurian, which seems to have been inherited by the Gypsies in what they call "Black Tongue". This seems to suggest a link between the Atruscans and the Lemurians and by extension the Gypsies. So who were the Lemurians? From what the C's have told us they were the ancestors of the Oriental races:
Well, it seems the three gypsy commentators who annotated the Varo Edition of Dr Morris K Jessup's book The Case for the UFO had a few things to say about the Etruscans who they called Atruscans.
Jessup spoke of a true crystal lens that had been found by archaeologists in the treasure house of Nineveh in what is now modern day Iraq. Jessup saw it as a proof that an advanced knowledge of optics was known some millennia before this lens was incarcerated at Nineveh. He argued that if the lens was indigenous to this planet then perforce we must accept that a civilisation with a knowledge of optics predated all of presently recorded history. Here is what the gypsies said about it:
"Lens was Atruscan
Mirror silvering of crystal (rock or force-made crystal) unknown to Atruscans.
It was crystal and it was a lens. Atruscans used them to make fine gold and silver earrings and gold wire inlays.
Also used to make fire for the smiths."
Jessup continued by saying: "The lens is just as much, in its small way, a relic of the first wave of civilisation (if not from space) as is the Great Pyramid which embodies more astronomy and mathematics than was possessed by those people to whom its construction is attributed." MJF: the underlining here was by the Gypsies who added the following comment shown below:
"Man speaks from general consensus"
[Jessup] "Wilkins, in Secret Cities of South America, reports the finding of optical lenses and mirrors in a submerged city on the coast of Ecuador, and others in archaic ruins of Central America. These appear to be pre-Incan and pre-Andean."
"These were Muanian in make."
N.B The three Gypsies referred throughout their annotations in the book to a group they called the "L-Ms", being Lemurian-Muanians or Little Men (which makes me think of the Greys) who apparently had been at war, on and off, with the S-Ms or Secret Order Men over several millennia.
Nineveh is a truly ancient settlement and was one of the oldest and greatest cities in antiquity. Nineveh itself was founded as early as 6000 BC during the late Neolithic period. By 3000 BC, the Kish civilization had expanded into Nineveh. At this time, the main temple of Nineveh becomes known as Ishtar temple, re-dedicated to the Semite goddess Ishtar. Later it was incorporated into the Akkadian Empire. After the fall of Ur in 2000 BC, with the transition into the Middle Bronze, Nineveh was absorbed into the rising power of Assyria. The Assyrian city of Nineveh then became one of Mitanni's vassals for half a century until the early 14th century BC. The Assyrian king Ashur-uballit I reclaimed it in 1365 BC while overthrowing the Mitanni Empire and creating the Middle Assyrian Empire (1365–1050 BC).
However, it was Sennacherib who made Nineveh a truly magnificent city (c. 700 BC). At this time, the total area of Nineveh comprised about 7 square kilometres (1,730 acres), and fifteen great gates penetrated its walls. An elaborate system of eighteen canals brought water from the hills to Nineveh. The enclosed area had more than 100,000 inhabitants (maybe closer to 150,000), about twice as many as Babylon at the time, placing it among the largest settlements worldwide. Indeed, Some scholars believe that the garden which Sennacherib built next to his palace, with its associated irrigation works, were the original Hanging Gardens of Babylon. The greatness of Nineveh was short-lived. In around 627 BC, after the death of its last great king Ashurbanipal, the Neo-Assyrian Empire began to unravel through a series of bitter civil wars between rival claimants for the throne, and in 616 BC Assyria was attacked by its own former vassals, the Babylonians, Chaldeans, Medes, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. The allied forces eventually reached Nineveh, besieging and sacking the city in 612 BC, following bitter house-to-house fighting, after which it was razed. The Assyrian Empire then came to an end by 605 BC, the Medes and Babylonians dividing its colonies between themselves. Although there is evidence for its partial resettlement after 605 BC, the city was not actively resettled until the age of the Seleucid Empire of the Macedonians in the 2nd century BC.
Hence, if the Etruscans were trading with the inhabitants of Nineveh, as witnessed by the Etruscan lens found at the treasure house of the ancient city, this would have been before 605 BC when the city was sacked and razed to the ground. How far back might this trade have dated? Rome as a city is not thought to have been established before the 8th Century BC. As legend has it, Rome was founded in 753 B.C. by Romulus and Remus, the twin sons of Mars, the god of war. However, Rome was preceded by the Sabine, Latin and Etruscan civilisations of Italy. The earliest evidence of a culture that is identifiably Etruscan dates from about 900 BC. The territorial extent of Etruscan civilisation reached its maximum around 750 BC, during the foundational period of the Roman Kingdom. This would therefore fit nicely with the peak of the city of Nineveh in 700 BC.
The origins of the Etruscans is still a great mystery. Some ancient historians linked them with the sea peoples of the Mediterranean. However, the First-century Roman historian Pliny the Elder linked the Etruscans to the Rhaetian people to the north, i.e., the Alpine regions who he believed were displaced by the Gauls. The Raeti were a confederation of Alpine tribes, whose language and culture was related to those of the Etruscans. Before the Roman conquest, they inhabited present-day Tyrol in Austria, eastern Switzerland and the Alpine regions of north-eastern Italy. Most scholars now think they were in fact indigenous to this region and were not displaced there by the Gauls (Celts) as Pliny and others had thought.
If this is the case, then one can see how the Etruscan alphabet could have influenced the Germanic and Nordic peoples to their north, as claimed by the C's.
But the three Gypsies went even further where the Etruscans were concerned. You may recall that Ark had suggested that the Etruscans may have gotten their alphabet as a mirror image. Jessup noted of a certain cross found in an ancient grave in the US state of Georgia, as reported in the Smithsonian Institute Reports of 1881, that when looked at in a mirror, some of the inscriptions on it seemed to resemble Roman numerals but were not quite legible. The three Gypsies had this to say about the cross:
Cross is Atruscan-Lemurian, Language is that now called "Black tongue" spoken by "Gitana" [Gypsies] the world over. Show this to a brother -gypsy & lord know what the reaction would be if the original were shown. It is Chief's or Nabob's own insignia of Clan. He flew that place but had to walk later. He died from walking for his muscles were not used to or for such purpose. Manner of death indicated by horse's head, even tho[ugh] there were no horses on this land at that time. His name and address & his accomplishments are signified on the metal. the cross was left so that the body might be brought home. The making of this required callipers, scribes, and drawing compass, plus mathematics. Punch, a press, a set of stamps, a drill, several different files, a forge, smelter etc. or one force-ray stamp and burner press.
Apart from the fact that the production of this cross seemed from this description to have been be a small scale industrial operation, we note that the language on the cross is Atruscan-Lemurian, which seems to have been inherited by the Gypsies in what they call "Black Tongue". This seems to suggest a link between the Atruscans and the Lemurians and by extension the Gypsies. So who were the Lemurians? From what the C's have told us they were the ancestors of the Oriental races:
Q: (L) What was the genetic combination used to obtain the Oriental races?
A: Orientals come from a region known in your legends as "Lemuria," and are a previous hybridization from 7 genetic code structures from within Orion Union, designed to best fit the earth climate and cosmic ray environment then existent on earth.
The C's also told us that Lemuria was a land located off the Pacific coast of South America, of which Easter Island is a remnant, the bulk of which was submerged at the Fall:
Q: (L) Who carved the stone heads on Easter Island?A: Lemurian descendants.
Q: (L) The natives say the stones walked into position. Is this true?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, how?
A: Tonal vibration.
Q: (L) And what did these stones represent?
A: Nephalim.
Q: (L) Is this what the Nephilim looked like?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Does that mean that the Nephilim were present in Lemuria?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Where was Lemuria located?
A: Pacific off South America.
Q: (L) So when the Easter Island natives talk about their ancestors they are talking about people who came from the direction of South America?
A: No. Right near all around. Easter Island is remnant of Lemuria.
Q: (L) What happened to Lemuria?
A: Submerged close to time you refer to as Fall of Eden, approximately. [MJF: According to the C's the Fall was 309,000 years ago approximately]
Q: (L) Well if the Nephilim were brought here 9 to 12 thousand years ago...
A: Last visit. Have been here 5 times. Will return.
If the language on the Gypsy cross was Atruscan-Lemurian, this suggests a link between the Lemurians and the Etruscans. Rather as a group of Aryans went underground before the Deluge (14,000 years ago), did a group of Lemurians seek refuge under the Earth or sea prior to or at the time Lemuria was submerged or later? I say this because the Gypsies tell us that the cross was a memorial marker to a Gypsy clan chieftain who had originally flown to the place but then had to walk later. They said he had died from walking for his muscles were not used to or for such purpose. This suggests that he was used to a different environment, perhaps one under the sea or underground, and possibly 4th density. He may also probably have been used to being flown around. They said that his manner of death was indicated by the horse's head on the cross. It is curious, therefore, that in Nordic mythology, Odin was meant to ride an eight legged horse called Sleipnir, which may well be a figurative representation of a flying machine.
But what of the Gypsies and their link to the Etruscans and the Lemurians from whom they inherited their language. It is curious that the three Gypsy commentators seemed to know so much about ancient and unrecorded history, the aliens and advanced scientific knowledge given their annotations in Jessup's book. How is this possible unless they had had contact with such alien/underground humanoid groups? Perhaps a clue was furnished by the C's as regards the Gypsies' origins when they spoke of their role as slaves of dark forces under mind control:
Session 20 October 1994:[/S]
But what of the Gypsies and their link to the Etruscans and the Lemurians from whom they inherited their language. It is curious that the three Gypsy commentators seemed to know so much about ancient and unrecorded history, the aliens and advanced scientific knowledge given their annotations in Jessup's book. How is this possible unless they had had contact with such alien/underground humanoid groups? Perhaps a clue was furnished by the C's as regards the Gypsies' origins when they spoke of their role as slaves of dark forces under mind control:
Session 20 October 1994:[/S]
Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies?
A: Genes spliced. Slaves of dark forces.
Q: Who are these dark forces?
A: Same.
Q: As what?
A: Brotherhood.
Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various humans?
A: Yes.
Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?
A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.
Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?
A: Slave people controlled by crystal.
Q: Why do the Gypsies remain so cohesive? Is that genetically programmed?
A: Yes. And mind control.
The three Gypsies also seemed very aware of the mind controlling powers of the aliens or underground humans/humanoids given what they had to say about telepathy in their annotations:
The possibility of the Ruskies have found an old "Dead Ship" is not without the realm of probability. His [Jessup's] admittance to other forms of humanoid life is near-revelatory to what I surmise; He is being led by his short-wave telepathic nose, so to speak; to see these things. He says "we" and that could imply anything from one friendly L-M to a fellow scientist or his wife or some member of the U.S. Government;
If what I now surmise is true, then the L-Ms are in trouble or the S-Ms wish to war upon the L-Ms & are using this man, telepathically, to get help. Whether this consideration is of import to him only remains to be seen. If it isn't, then he will be left out on an emotional limb trying to say "See, I am right, they are wrong" and will forget what is important here.
In addition, they also said:
Upon review, I believe this man maybe being "illuminated" telepathically. Somebody, L-M or S-M is making him write about that which he "sees" in his head & and has checked upon to verify.
This reminds me of what the C's said here about Thor's Pantheum of psychic projectors:
Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor's Pantheum of subselect trainees! An army of psychic projectors. (L) And what do they project? [/S]
A: Themselves... Right in to one's head.[/S]The possibility of the Ruskies have found an old "Dead Ship" is not without the realm of probability. His [Jessup's] admittance to other forms of humanoid life is near-revelatory to what I surmise; He is being led by his short-wave telepathic nose, so to speak; to see these things. He says "we" and that could imply anything from one friendly L-M to a fellow scientist or his wife or some member of the U.S. Government;
If what I now surmise is true, then the L-Ms are in trouble or the S-Ms wish to war upon the L-Ms & are using this man, telepathically, to get help. Whether this consideration is of import to him only remains to be seen. If it isn't, then he will be left out on an emotional limb trying to say "See, I am right, they are wrong" and will forget what is important here.
In addition, they also said:
Upon review, I believe this man maybe being "illuminated" telepathically. Somebody, L-M or S-M is making him write about that which he "sees" in his head & and has checked upon to verify.
This reminds me of what the C's said here about Thor's Pantheum of psychic projectors:
Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor's Pantheum of subselect trainees! An army of psychic projectors. (L) And what do they project? [/S]
And, as regards their own telepathic encounters with the L-Ms, they said this in response to what Jessup had said about a man who had been teleported and may have been induced to go outside by an internal compulsion within him:Have resisted this of them myself. "Telepathic control" only resisted by another telepath. Darn tough on me. I am only partly telepathic but can "set" call-barriers. If ever I see an L-M swimming about again, I'll grab him.
As to where the Gypsies, or the Romani, are meant to come from, they are meant to have migrated from northwest India 1,500 years ago. Romani, also known as the Roma, were originally dubbed "gypsies" in the 16th century, because this widely dispersed group of people were first thought to have come from Egypt. They are, however, an Indo-Aryan ethnic group. Linguistic history as well as a few limited genetic studies have suggested the Romani originally hailed from India. The Romani language a spoken today is an Indo-Aryan language with strong Balkan and Greek influence. Using DNA samples from 13 groups of Romani spread across Europe, researchers have recently revealed the modern Romani's ancestors migrated out of northwest India all at one time 1,500 years ago. The Romani have been described as "a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations", while a number of common Mendelian disorders among Romani from all over Europe indicates "a common origin and founder effect". A 2020 whole-genome study confirmed the northwest Indian origins, and also confirmed substantial Balkan and Middle Eastern ancestry. Once they arrived in Europe, they quickly spread across the continent from the Balkan region about 900 years ago.
Linguistic evidence has indisputably shown that the roots of the Romani language lie in India: the language has grammatical characteristics of Indian languages and shares with them a large part of the basic lexicon. In contrast, the three Gypsies seemed to propose that the origins of their language was Atruscan-Lemurian, developing into what they called "Black tongue". Does this suggest that the origins of the Romani people, as Indo-Aryans, could lie much further back in time and further to the east of India? Indeed, the fact that the three Gypsies confirmed that the cross found in Georgia belonged to a Gypsy clan chieftain who had been flown into North America suggests that there had been a Gypsy presence in North America long before the Europeans (who brought the horse with them) first settled the continent in the 16th Century. And what of the linguistic connection to the Etruscans, a people with a mysterious origin themselves? Could they have been related to the Romani in any way? Could they like the Gypsies have once lived underground in a 4th density environment on the other side of the mirror, as the C's suggested?
As to where the Gypsies, or the Romani, are meant to come from, they are meant to have migrated from northwest India 1,500 years ago. Romani, also known as the Roma, were originally dubbed "gypsies" in the 16th century, because this widely dispersed group of people were first thought to have come from Egypt. They are, however, an Indo-Aryan ethnic group. Linguistic history as well as a few limited genetic studies have suggested the Romani originally hailed from India. The Romani language a spoken today is an Indo-Aryan language with strong Balkan and Greek influence. Using DNA samples from 13 groups of Romani spread across Europe, researchers have recently revealed the modern Romani's ancestors migrated out of northwest India all at one time 1,500 years ago. The Romani have been described as "a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations", while a number of common Mendelian disorders among Romani from all over Europe indicates "a common origin and founder effect". A 2020 whole-genome study confirmed the northwest Indian origins, and also confirmed substantial Balkan and Middle Eastern ancestry. Once they arrived in Europe, they quickly spread across the continent from the Balkan region about 900 years ago.
Linguistic evidence has indisputably shown that the roots of the Romani language lie in India: the language has grammatical characteristics of Indian languages and shares with them a large part of the basic lexicon. In contrast, the three Gypsies seemed to propose that the origins of their language was Atruscan-Lemurian, developing into what they called "Black tongue". Does this suggest that the origins of the Romani people, as Indo-Aryans, could lie much further back in time and further to the east of India? Indeed, the fact that the three Gypsies confirmed that the cross found in Georgia belonged to a Gypsy clan chieftain who had been flown into North America suggests that there had been a Gypsy presence in North America long before the Europeans (who brought the horse with them) first settled the continent in the 16th Century. And what of the linguistic connection to the Etruscans, a people with a mysterious origin themselves? Could they have been related to the Romani in any way? Could they like the Gypsies have once lived underground in a 4th density environment on the other side of the mirror, as the C's suggested?
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pinkfreud
Jedi Master
So I can’t shake the feeling. With prime numbers, and the “odd one out.”
I get the sense that the punchline has something to do with a wave that is mathematically incapable of being cancelled out. What is eternal?
If STS consumes itself, what is left?
If we consider the trope of “wavicles” and perception guiding reality (a new age notion, and not fully correct, I understand), could it be illustrated that, if the waves meet in a prime location, they stay?
Is it possible that, if and only if perception aligns with the “primal” beat of creation, they cannot be consumed? Cannot be interfered with?
I’ve been thinking about this all week. No work to show for it as of yet.
I get the sense that the punchline has something to do with a wave that is mathematically incapable of being cancelled out. What is eternal?
If STS consumes itself, what is left?
If we consider the trope of “wavicles” and perception guiding reality (a new age notion, and not fully correct, I understand), could it be illustrated that, if the waves meet in a prime location, they stay?
Is it possible that, if and only if perception aligns with the “primal” beat of creation, they cannot be consumed? Cannot be interfered with?
I’ve been thinking about this all week. No work to show for it as of yet.
piliangie
Jedi
Thank You Laura and the group,!interesting as always .but I must Say ,this session let me with more doubts and questions ...I understand the importance of procreation, but in this present times , is not the Best ideaNo wonder why some people doing regressive hypnosis described Lizards as "very angry and extremely self-centered beings." There is no place for procreation with such a level of selfishness. In 3D, women put their lives in danger in order to give birth. Fully dedicating oneself to another being involves a lot of sacrifice and responsibility. Taking care of others is a creative endeavor!
Hmm... but how do 4D STO beings procreate? Since there is no gender at that level, I'm guessing the union of two (or more?) beings results in a frequency match which allows the birth of another 4D being. Since reality is not so black-and-white, could 4D STS "reclaim" babies made from 4D STO parents? Pushing the limit a bit further... could 4D STO give birth to 4D STS for the sake of balance?
Time to grab another book from the Romantic Fiction, Reality Shaping and The Work thread!
to bring children to this world ....and about the menstruation .. I'm not sure if is true that is Very good ..for many woman is Very unpleasent , painful..I don't know...it seems like the future is to grey ,no color, no hope, everything is programed.....I don't know , I wonder , why i'm begining to doubt what the C's are Telling.....
sorry just My thoughts.. ...
Thank You Laura and the group,!interesting as always .but I must Say ,this session let me with more doubts and questions ...I understand the importance of procreation, but in this present times , is not the Best idea
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i can share your thoughts...
seve
Jedi Master
I think you're caught up in your own mind. Remember, it's the soul that counts, not the body. Life is religion in the sense that we sublimate the limits of our human condition to recognize the vast cosmic purpose. Take heart.Thank You Laura and the group,!interesting as always .but I must Say ,this session let me with more doubts and questions ...I understand the importance of procreation, but in this present times , is not the Best idea
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piliangie
Jedi
Yes I know is My mind, but nos there's something else ....
piliangie
Jedi
But now there's something else......
Something other than your mind ?
Where does your mind begin and where does your mind end ?
Meditate on it and afterwards; Please describe the boundaries of your mind
It can be to yourseld and/or here on the forum
Saw news of this again. Bodies being found by the river in the same area as the initial scare, with faces peeled off.
Another incident where floating beings appeared and a villager shot at one before getting stunned unconscious by a ray device of some kind.
piliangie
Jedi
No ,not something other than My mind,..by saying something else, i'm talking about My sense...My intuition, .....
That video was first posted a couple months ago (or thereabouts). The uncensored one looks very similar to other cases attributed to piranha attacks. In the photos someone shared on Twitter, the piranhas had eaten all the flesh from the victim's head down to the collarbones, very similar to what is visible of the body of the young man pulled from the river.
freigeist2.0
Padawan Learner
Good evening dear people. The events come thick and fast. When I heard the story about Israel, I immediately thought of the C's words. Israel will destroy itself with its hubris. I don't remember which session. It will definitely be interesting. As soon as you can take on the meta level, the insights grow... Kind regards to everyone and to Jubilee.
